Why Khon Laos look down on Khon Isan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nooUmOA4dRM
minute 4.09 นาที่ที่ 4.09
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Full Version: Why Laos look down on Khon Isan.
Koi pen khon Lao kor dee pen khon isan kor dai der
(Honestly, the music in the background is so annoying)
(Honestly, the music in the background is so annoying)
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U are good Lao
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U are good Lao
actually central thai have been trash talking to issan people for age, but hey like to deny it. If you don't believe ask red shirt people. 
QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Oct 31 2009, 01:42 PM) 
actually central thai have been trash talking to issan people for age, but hey like to deny it. If you don't believe ask red shirt people.
Amen. These fu-king Thai Dhak Lae/Jek-Thai been taking advantage and exploiting Issan(their fellow Thai citizens) for over a century and now they wonder why Thailand is up in flames. Karma is a biitch.
Laos does not look down on Khon Issan. You people are just making bull$hit up.
QUOTE (sisavong @ Oct 31 2009, 02:48 PM)
Laos does not look down on Khon Issan. You people are just making bull$hit up.
First of all, there's no such thing as Khon Issan. It's either Thai Issan or Lao Issan or the new term, Thai-Lao.
The bickering between both people on both sides of the Mekong is nothing new. A lot of it has to do with the Central Thai government. They created this division.
แล้วทำไมถึงทะเลาะกันล่ะ คนลาว กับ คนอีสาน แถมดูถูกคนอีสานอีกทั้งๆที่พวกมึงบอกนักบอกหนาว่าอีสานเป็นลาว พอตอนจบของคลิป อ้าว พูดดีซะงั้น ตบหัวแล้วลูบหลังชัดๆ
ไอ้เหี้ย !
ไอ้เหี้ย !
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The only people that looked down on Khon Isaan is Thai Central for example Thai/Chinese and Siamese Thai trying to divide both western and eastern people of the greater mekong region for century. That is why the Red shirt wanting a new changes and equal right including minority and people surrounding Bangkok as human and right for all people.
พวกลาวชอบพูดถึงเสื้อแดง รู้เรื่องดีนะเนี่ย มีนอกมีในละเรื่องนี้ 
central thai wanted to be jek kheekha only.
เพื่อความฉลาดของพวกต่างด้าว
เจ๊กในไทย เป็นเจ้าของกิจการค้าขายใหญ่โต นั่งๆนอนๆนับเงิน มีขี้ข้าเป็นต่างด้าว ลาว เขมร พม่า
คนไทย เป็นเจ้าของสวนยางพารา สวนผลไม้ นาข้าว นั่งๆนอนนับเงิน มีขี้ข้าเป็นต่างด้าว ลาว เขมร พม่า
เข้าใจ๊
ไอ้ลาว !
เจ๊กในไทย เป็นเจ้าของกิจการค้าขายใหญ่โต นั่งๆนอนๆนับเงิน มีขี้ข้าเป็นต่างด้าว ลาว เขมร พม่า
คนไทย เป็นเจ้าของสวนยางพารา สวนผลไม้ นาข้าว นั่งๆนอนนับเงิน มีขี้ข้าเป็นต่างด้าว ลาว เขมร พม่า
เข้าใจ๊
ไอ้ลาว !
QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Oct 31 2009, 10:03 PM)
central thai wanted to be jek kheekha only.
ีขี้ข้านั่นไทยเลิกตั้งแต่สมัย รัชกาลที่๕ แล้วครับ ถ้าคนเหล่านั่นทำงานสุจริตแล้วมันไม่ดีอย่างไรครับ
หรือจะต้องให้ค้ายา หรือลักรถไปขายหรือจึงจะภูมิใจ
คนไทยเชื้อสายจีนนั้นมีความพยายามอุตสาหะ นี้มันไม่ดียังไงครับ
เราทั้งคนไทยคนลาวควรดูไว้เป็นแบบอย่าง
มีนักปราชญ์ชาวตะวันตกเคยกล่าวไว้ บ้านเมืองใดไร้คนจีนบ้านนั้นเมืองนั้นไม่สมบูรณ์
QUOTE (poryod @ Oct 31 2009, 11:40 PM)
ีขี้ข้านั่นไทยเลิกตั้งแต่สมัย รัชกาลที่๕ แล้วครับ ถ้าคนเหล่านั่นทำงานสุจริตแล้วมันไม่ดีอย่างไรครับ
หรือจะต้องให้ค้ายา หรือลักรถไปขายหรือจึงจะภูมิใจ
คนไทยเชื้อสายจีนนั้นมีความพยายามอุตสาหะ นี้มันไม่ดียังไงครับ
เราทั้งคนไทยคนลาวควรดูไว้เป็นแบบอย่าง
มีนักปราชญ์ชาวตะวันตกเคยกล่าวไว้ บ้านเมืองใดไร้คนจีนบ้านนั้นเมืองนั้นไม่สมบูรณ์
หรือจะต้องให้ค้ายา หรือลักรถไปขายหรือจึงจะภูมิใจ
คนไทยเชื้อสายจีนนั้นมีความพยายามอุตสาหะ นี้มันไม่ดียังไงครับ
เราทั้งคนไทยคนลาวควรดูไว้เป็นแบบอย่าง
มีนักปราชญ์ชาวตะวันตกเคยกล่าวไว้ บ้านเมืองใดไร้คนจีนบ้านนั้นเมืองนั้นไม่สมบูรณ์
คนไทยน่ะ ลูกผสมมาตั้งเเต่เริ่มกรุงศรีเเล้วนี่ครับ คนลาวพวกนี้ จะมาหาชาติพันธ์บริสุทธิ์อะไร ไม่มีชาติไหนในโลกเเล้วมั้งครับ ที่เรียกทุกคนในชาติเป็น พี่น้องลุงป้าน้าอา ทั้งที่เพิ่งพบพา เหมือนเราคนไทย
จริงๆทั้งเขมร ลาว มาเล จีน ก็ญาติๆกับเราทั้งนั้นเลย ว่าไหมครับ
QUOTE (sisavong @ Oct 31 2009, 02:48 PM)
Laos does not look down on Khon Issan. You people are just making bull$hit up.
Like I said, only Jek Thai pretending to be Lao look down on Isan people....I think that person is Peaceman...
QUOTE (bankchabi @ Oct 31 2009, 10:56 PM)
เพื่อความฉลาดของพวกต่างด้าว
เจ๊กในไทย เป็นเจ้าของกิจการค้าขายใหญ่โต นั่งๆนอนๆนับเงิน มีขี้ข้าเป็นต่างด้าว ลาว เขมร พม่า
คนไทย เป็นเจ้าของสวนยางพารา สวนผลไม้ นาข้าว นั่งๆนอนนับเงิน มีขี้ข้าเป็นต่างด้าว ลาว เขมร พม่า
เข้าใจ๊
ไอ้ลาว !
เจ๊กในไทย เป็นเจ้าของกิจการค้าขายใหญ่โต นั่งๆนอนๆนับเงิน มีขี้ข้าเป็นต่างด้าว ลาว เขมร พม่า
คนไทย เป็นเจ้าของสวนยางพารา สวนผลไม้ นาข้าว นั่งๆนอนนับเงิน มีขี้ข้าเป็นต่างด้าว ลาว เขมร พม่า
เข้าใจ๊
ไอ้ลาว !
Obviously you have self esteem issues.... ไอ้เหี้ย !
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ไม่หรอก คุณคนขับแท๊กซี่ ผมก็เป็นคนเท่ากับพวกคุณ แต่พวกลาวเพื่อนคุณก็เห็นมันอวดอ้างสรรพคุณว่ามันลาวดีอย่างงั้น ดีอย่างอย่างี้ แล้วก็มาด่าคนไทยเป็นกระหรี่บ้าง เป็นเจ๊กบ้างด่ากันสนุกปากมาตั้งแต่มีบอร์ด
มันดีนักหรือไง ผมก็เลยอยากจะต่อปากต่อคำดูบ้าง ไม่ได้เหรอ
ไม่ชอบกันก็ต่างคนต่างอยู่ดิท่าน
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ไม่หรอก คุณคนขับแท๊กซี่ ผมก็เป็นคนเท่ากับพวกคุณ แต่พวกลาวเพื่อนคุณก็เห็นมันอวดอ้างสรรพคุณว่ามันลาวดีอย่างงั้น ดีอย่างอย่างี้ แล้วก็มาด่าคนไทยเป็นกระหรี่บ้าง เป็นเจ๊กบ้างด่ากันสนุกปากมาตั้งแต่มีบอร์ด
มันดีนักหรือไง ผมก็เลยอยากจะต่อปากต่อคำดูบ้าง ไม่ได้เหรอ
ไม่ชอบกันก็ต่างคนต่างอยู่ดิท่าน
QUOTE (Laoism @ Nov 1 2009, 01:58 AM)
Like I said, only Jek Thai pretending to be Lao look down on Isan people....I think that person is Peaceman...
Umm...no Laoism...I said Lao and Thai are Pi-Nong, but never once pretending to be Lao... I never hide that I'm partly Chinese,but I'm not Chinese...and have nothing against them, as long as they respect our people and King....the way they want us to respect others...
As for those trolls who came into Thai Chat and talk $hit about my people and King, I considered them "สถุน".
QUOTE (PeaceMan @ Nov 1 2009, 08:29 AM)
Umm...no Laoism...I said Lao and Thai are Pi-Nong, but never once pretending to be Lao... I never hide that I'm partly Chinese,but I'm not Chinese...and have nothing against them, as long as they respect our people and King....the way they want us to respect others...
As for those trolls who came into Thai Chat and talk $hit about my people and King, I considered them "สถุน".
As for those trolls who came into Thai Chat and talk $hit about my people and King, I considered them "สถุน".
And you disrespected us in a very negative ways and why should we respect someone like you who are no welling to respect us the first place? You guys already made Thailand in general look bad in the region and there neighbors. And I taught Thailand supposed to be a good in leadership since you guys claim you are the richest in South East Asia??? And also case like this ASEAN organization shouldn't exist because the people still have different idea and also dislike about you and your country aggression.
Deny all you want, 100 years from now thailand will change its name to Jekland.
QUOTE (bankchabi @ Oct 31 2009, 02:34 AM)
Why Khon Laos look down on Khon Isan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nooUmOA4dRM
minute 4.09 นาที่ที่ 4.09
ทำไมถึงดูถูกกันเอง ไหนว่าลาวด้วยกันไง
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nooUmOA4dRM
minute 4.09 นาที่ที่ 4.09
ทำไมถึงดูถูกกันเอง ไหนว่าลาวด้วยกันไง
^Unlike some of the angry Lao people here who have ancestors or a connection there, I do not have any connection to Isan region only Northern Lao. However, any negative things some Lao on the east bank say about Isan is generally not the norm BUT they have really good justifications for some of them.
For example, how do you think it feels for Lao people on the Eastern bank of the river to have Isan Lao claim EVERYTHING that IS CULTURALLY NATIVE TO OUR PEOPLE in the name of the Thai nation? Especially when IN FACT it did not originate there but was brought over there because of forced migration of our people? A lot of Isan even look different from ancestral Lao on the East Bank now because Siamese loved to combine and mix people (heck even they are heavily mixed themselves) in order to "thin" out bloodlines in hopes to have the newer generation see themselves as different! Sad think is that this has largely worked! I see and read it ALL the time when Isan even claim this self hate for themselves, saying how Lao on Eastern bank is generally lighter and better looking than them.
Unlike some Lao who want Isan to join with the "original motherland" again, I BELIEVE this will NOT benefit Lao of Muang Lao at all. Isan reminds me of a "rogue" place where a lot of people are resentful and angry at times (just look at how they treated all of the refugees back in the day just because Central Government told them to). To me, because they have been Siamese and Jek's b!tch for so long, the MAJORITY of them wouldn't think twice when it comes to betraying or killing their own kind because they've been influenced by them for FAR TOO LONG! They now have that "famous" Thai mentality that everyone around the world is so sick of. If some of you don't live by them or are around some of them, you may not know what I mean. The majority of Lao Isan is so heavily tainted by Central Thai now, that even A LOT OF LAO in the states who lived in neighborhoods eventually move away whenever Isan Thai-Lao move into areas because they can't stand that selfish, angry, and ignorant mentality a lot of them display to their own kind.
Because of all the $hit Isan Lao and Southern Malay Thai has had to deal with greedy Central Siamese and Jek for too long, the only beneficial thing for them now is to have their own separate states.For ALL YOU JEK WHO ARE IN DENIAL, you know it's dam well possible for new nations to form, even in our modern times. Nations rise and fall all of the time. Just because the world is more technologically advanced, doesn't mean humankind will not stop war with one another too.
Also, for all you Lao on AF who still have some relatives in Isan:
Yes, blood is thicker than water but don't forget....there have been plenty of chances now days for Lao Isan to reunite or make more peace with Lao on the East but sadly the majority choose not to. We still have a LONG WAY TO GO because they now have that newly crafted "Thai" mentality! A lot of them may not mind living in denial or taking on a newly crafted identity taught to them by the fake Thai educational school system, but DON'T forget to PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE JUST LIKE IGNORANT JEK when the both of them try and disregard true Lao cultural history/historical contributions.
QUOTE (Nangdee @ Nov 1 2009, 11:06 AM)
^Unlike some of the angry Lao people here who have ancestors or a connection there, I do not have any connection to Isan region only Northern Lao. However, any negative things some Lao on the east bank say about Isan is generally not the norm BUT they have really good justifications for some of them.
For example, how do you think it feels for Lao people on the Eastern bank of the river to have Isan Lao claim EVERYTHING that IS CULTURALLY NATIVE TO OUR PEOPLE in the name of the Thai nation? Especially when IN FACT it did not originate there but was brought over there because of forced migration of our people? A lot of Isan even look different from ancestral Lao on the East Bank now because Siamese loved to combine and mix people (heck even they are heavily mixed themselves) in order to "thin" out bloodlines in hopes to have the newer generation see themselves as different! Sad think is that this has largely worked! I see and read it ALL the time when Isan even claim this self hate for themselves, saying how Lao on Eastern bank is generally lighter and better looking than them.
Unlike some Lao who want Isan to join with the "original motherland" again, I BELIEVE this will NOT benefit Lao of Muang Lao at all. Isan reminds me of a "rogue" place where a lot of people are resentful and angry at times (just look at how they treated all of the refugees back in the day just because Central Government told them to). To me, because they have been Siamese and Jek's b!tch for so long, the MAJORITY of them wouldn't think twice when it comes to betraying or killing their own kind because they've been influenced by them for FAR TOO LONG! They now have that "famous" Thai mentality that everyone around the world is so sick of. If some of you don't live by them or are around some of them, you may not know what I mean. The majority of Lao Isan is so heavily tainted by Central Thai now, that even A LOT OF LAO in the states who lived in neighborhoods eventually move away whenever Isan Thai-Lao move into areas because they can't stand that selfish, angry, and ignorant mentality a lot of them display to their own kind.
Because of all the $hit Isan Lao and Southern Malay Thai has had to deal with greedy Central Siamese and Jek for too long, the only beneficial thing for them now is to have their own separate states.For ALL YOU JEK WHO ARE IN DENIAL, you know it's dam well possible for new nations to form, even in our modern times. Nations rise and fall all of the time. Just because the world is more technologically advanced, doesn't mean humankind will not stop war with one another too.
Also, for all you Lao on AF who still have some relatives in Isan:
Yes, blood is thicker than water but don't forget....there have been plenty of chances now days for Lao Isan to reunite or make more peace with Lao on the East but sadly the majority choose not to. We still have a LONG WAY TO GO because they now have that newly crafted "Thai" mentality! A lot of them may not mind living in denial or taking on a newly crafted identity taught to them by the fake Thai educational school system, but DON'T forget to PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE JUST LIKE IGNORANT JEK when the both of them try and disregard true Lao cultural history/historical contributions.
For example, how do you think it feels for Lao people on the Eastern bank of the river to have Isan Lao claim EVERYTHING that IS CULTURALLY NATIVE TO OUR PEOPLE in the name of the Thai nation? Especially when IN FACT it did not originate there but was brought over there because of forced migration of our people? A lot of Isan even look different from ancestral Lao on the East Bank now because Siamese loved to combine and mix people (heck even they are heavily mixed themselves) in order to "thin" out bloodlines in hopes to have the newer generation see themselves as different! Sad think is that this has largely worked! I see and read it ALL the time when Isan even claim this self hate for themselves, saying how Lao on Eastern bank is generally lighter and better looking than them.
Unlike some Lao who want Isan to join with the "original motherland" again, I BELIEVE this will NOT benefit Lao of Muang Lao at all. Isan reminds me of a "rogue" place where a lot of people are resentful and angry at times (just look at how they treated all of the refugees back in the day just because Central Government told them to). To me, because they have been Siamese and Jek's b!tch for so long, the MAJORITY of them wouldn't think twice when it comes to betraying or killing their own kind because they've been influenced by them for FAR TOO LONG! They now have that "famous" Thai mentality that everyone around the world is so sick of. If some of you don't live by them or are around some of them, you may not know what I mean. The majority of Lao Isan is so heavily tainted by Central Thai now, that even A LOT OF LAO in the states who lived in neighborhoods eventually move away whenever Isan Thai-Lao move into areas because they can't stand that selfish, angry, and ignorant mentality a lot of them display to their own kind.
Because of all the $hit Isan Lao and Southern Malay Thai has had to deal with greedy Central Siamese and Jek for too long, the only beneficial thing for them now is to have their own separate states.For ALL YOU JEK WHO ARE IN DENIAL, you know it's dam well possible for new nations to form, even in our modern times. Nations rise and fall all of the time. Just because the world is more technologically advanced, doesn't mean humankind will not stop war with one another too.
Also, for all you Lao on AF who still have some relatives in Isan:
Yes, blood is thicker than water but don't forget....there have been plenty of chances now days for Lao Isan to reunite or make more peace with Lao on the East but sadly the majority choose not to. We still have a LONG WAY TO GO because they now have that newly crafted "Thai" mentality! A lot of them may not mind living in denial or taking on a newly crafted identity taught to them by the fake Thai educational school system, but DON'T forget to PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE JUST LIKE IGNORANT JEK when the both of them try and disregard true Lao cultural history/historical contributions.
NangDee I agree with your comments 100% perfection! It is time for us Laotian to see this in them and also to teach those delusional Central Thai how much wound they have done. I've been telling alot of people about this issue myself to many people and they can see why we dislike them so much because they treat our people in the past until now the same way. Laotian and Isaan are getting sick and tired with these Thais and the only option is to separate Thailand siincne there is no sense of unity in the country! Look at the southern part of Thailand, they already at war with the Muslim and now they are disputing the border with Cambodian temple!
I Taught to myself Thailand is not UNITED one bit! I wonder what's next on the Thai agenda Burma??? Or maybe there closet Pi-Nong on the East Bank Laos??? Thailand is falling apart and is seem like all there neighbors having the same agenda against Thailand.
QUOTE (Nangdee @ Nov 1 2009, 12:06 PM)
^Unlike some of the angry Lao people here who have ancestors or a connection there, I do not have any connection to Isan region only Northern Lao. However, any negative things some Lao on the east bank say about Isan is generally not the norm BUT they have really good justifications for some of them.
For example, how do you think it feels for Lao people on the Eastern bank of the river to have Isan Lao claim EVERYTHING that IS CULTURALLY NATIVE TO OUR PEOPLE in the name of the Thai nation? Especially when IN FACT it did not originate there but was brought over there because of forced migration of our people? A lot of Isan even look different from ancestral Lao on the East Bank now because Siamese loved to combine and mix people (heck even they are heavily mixed themselves) in order to "thin" out bloodlines in hopes to have the newer generation see themselves as different! Sad think is that this has largely worked! I see and read it ALL the time when Isan even claim this self hate for themselves, saying how Lao on Eastern bank is generally lighter and better looking than them.
Unlike some Lao who want Isan to join with the "original motherland" again, I BELIEVE this will NOT benefit Lao of Muang Lao at all. Isan reminds me of a "rogue" place where a lot of people are resentful and angry at times (just look at how they treated all of the refugees back in the day just because Central Government told them to). To me, because they have been Siamese and Jek's b!tch for so long, the MAJORITY of them wouldn't think twice when it comes to betraying or killing their own kind because they've been influenced by them for FAR TOO LONG! They now have that "famous" Thai mentality that everyone around the world is so sick of. If some of you don't live by them or are around some of them, you may not know what I mean. The majority of Lao Isan is so heavily tainted by Central Thai now, that even A LOT OF LAO in the states who lived in neighborhoods eventually move away whenever Isan Thai-Lao move into areas because they can't stand that selfish, angry, and ignorant mentality a lot of them display to their own kind.
Because of all the $hit Isan Lao and Southern Malay Thai has had to deal with greedy Central Siamese and Jek for too long, the only beneficial thing for them now is to have their own separate states.For ALL YOU JEK WHO ARE IN DENIAL, you know it's dam well possible for new nations to form, even in our modern times. Nations rise and fall all of the time. Just because the world is more technologically advanced, doesn't mean humankind will not stop war with one another too.
Also, for all you Lao on AF who still have some relatives in Isan:
Yes, blood is thicker than water but don't forget....there have been plenty of chances now days for Lao Isan to reunite or make more peace with Lao on the East but sadly the majority choose not to. We still have a LONG WAY TO GO because they now have that newly crafted "Thai" mentality! A lot of them may not mind living in denial or taking on a newly crafted identity taught to them by the fake Thai educational school system, but DON'T forget to PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE JUST LIKE IGNORANT JEK when the both of them try and disregard true Lao cultural history/historical contributions.
For example, how do you think it feels for Lao people on the Eastern bank of the river to have Isan Lao claim EVERYTHING that IS CULTURALLY NATIVE TO OUR PEOPLE in the name of the Thai nation? Especially when IN FACT it did not originate there but was brought over there because of forced migration of our people? A lot of Isan even look different from ancestral Lao on the East Bank now because Siamese loved to combine and mix people (heck even they are heavily mixed themselves) in order to "thin" out bloodlines in hopes to have the newer generation see themselves as different! Sad think is that this has largely worked! I see and read it ALL the time when Isan even claim this self hate for themselves, saying how Lao on Eastern bank is generally lighter and better looking than them.
Unlike some Lao who want Isan to join with the "original motherland" again, I BELIEVE this will NOT benefit Lao of Muang Lao at all. Isan reminds me of a "rogue" place where a lot of people are resentful and angry at times (just look at how they treated all of the refugees back in the day just because Central Government told them to). To me, because they have been Siamese and Jek's b!tch for so long, the MAJORITY of them wouldn't think twice when it comes to betraying or killing their own kind because they've been influenced by them for FAR TOO LONG! They now have that "famous" Thai mentality that everyone around the world is so sick of. If some of you don't live by them or are around some of them, you may not know what I mean. The majority of Lao Isan is so heavily tainted by Central Thai now, that even A LOT OF LAO in the states who lived in neighborhoods eventually move away whenever Isan Thai-Lao move into areas because they can't stand that selfish, angry, and ignorant mentality a lot of them display to their own kind.
Because of all the $hit Isan Lao and Southern Malay Thai has had to deal with greedy Central Siamese and Jek for too long, the only beneficial thing for them now is to have their own separate states.For ALL YOU JEK WHO ARE IN DENIAL, you know it's dam well possible for new nations to form, even in our modern times. Nations rise and fall all of the time. Just because the world is more technologically advanced, doesn't mean humankind will not stop war with one another too.
Also, for all you Lao on AF who still have some relatives in Isan:
Yes, blood is thicker than water but don't forget....there have been plenty of chances now days for Lao Isan to reunite or make more peace with Lao on the East but sadly the majority choose not to. We still have a LONG WAY TO GO because they now have that newly crafted "Thai" mentality! A lot of them may not mind living in denial or taking on a newly crafted identity taught to them by the fake Thai educational school system, but DON'T forget to PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE JUST LIKE IGNORANT JEK when the both of them try and disregard true Lao cultural history/historical contributions.
You brought some interesting points, Nangdee. I agree with a lot of it. I'm aware a lot of Khon Lao are satisfied with the status quo. Nothing wrong with that. I, however, try to look at things in the long term.
Look at East and West Germany for instance. People thought it wouldn't work but it did. The Germans became stronger as a result.
A Unified Lao Nation and People will not only help us in the long run but change the balance of power in the region.
QUOTE (Buddhalove @ Nov 1 2009, 10:38 PM)
Deny all you want, 100 years from now thailand will change its name to Jekland.
5 years from now Laos will change its name to GAEWLAND.
QUOTE (LiaoFyhun @ Nov 1 2009, 10:27 AM)
And you disrespected us in a very negative ways and why should we respect someone like you who are no welling to respect us the first place? You guys already made Thailand in general look bad in the region and there neighbors. And I taught Thailand supposed to be a good in leadership since you guys claim you are the richest in South East Asia??? And also case like this ASEAN organization shouldn't exist because the people still have different idea and also dislike about you and your country aggression.
Disrespect the Lao people in general???? When did I ever do that??? Show me if I ever "even once" say anything bad about my PiNong Lao in Lao???
It's your oversea troll's bias and stereotype that keep the hatred going and going like an energizer bunny....loose your arrogrant and ignorant mind set, then you'll see thing clearer...
QUOTE (Nangdee @ Nov 1 2009, 08:06 AM)
^Unlike some of the angry Lao people here who have ancestors or a connection there, I do not have any connection to Isan region only Northern Lao. However, any negative things some Lao on the east bank say about Isan is generally not the norm BUT they have really good justifications for some of them.
For example, how do you think it feels for Lao people on the Eastern bank of the river to have Isan Lao claim EVERYTHING that IS CULTURALLY NATIVE TO OUR PEOPLE in the name of the Thai nation? Especially when IN FACT it did not originate there but was brought over there because of forced migration of our people? A lot of Isan even look different from ancestral Lao on the East Bank now because Siamese loved to combine and mix people (heck even they are heavily mixed themselves) in order to "thin" out bloodlines in hopes to have the newer generation see themselves as different! Sad think is that this has largely worked! I see and read it ALL the time when Isan even claim this self hate for themselves, saying how Lao on Eastern bank is generally lighter and better looking than them.
Unlike some Lao who want Isan to join with the "original motherland" again, I BELIEVE this will NOT benefit Lao of Muang Lao at all. Isan reminds me of a "rogue" place where a lot of people are resentful and angry at times (just look at how they treated all of the refugees back in the day just because Central Government told them to). To me, because they have been Siamese and Jek's b!tch for so long, the MAJORITY of them wouldn't think twice when it comes to betraying or killing their own kind because they've been influenced by them for FAR TOO LONG! They now have that "famous" Thai mentality that everyone around the world is so sick of. If some of you don't live by them or are around some of them, you may not know what I mean. The majority of Lao Isan is so heavily tainted by Central Thai now, that even A LOT OF LAO in the states who lived in neighborhoods eventually move away whenever Isan Thai-Lao move into areas because they can't stand that selfish, angry, and ignorant mentality a lot of them display to their own kind.
Because of all the $hit Isan Lao and Southern Malay Thai has had to deal with greedy Central Siamese and Jek for too long, the only beneficial thing for them now is to have their own separate states.For ALL YOU JEK WHO ARE IN DENIAL, you know it's dam well possible for new nations to form, even in our modern times. Nations rise and fall all of the time. Just because the world is more technologically advanced, doesn't mean humankind will not stop war with one another too.
Also, for all you Lao on AF who still have some relatives in Isan:
Yes, blood is thicker than water but don't forget....there have been plenty of chances now days for Lao Isan to reunite or make more peace with Lao on the East but sadly the majority choose not to. We still have a LONG WAY TO GO because they now have that newly crafted "Thai" mentality! A lot of them may not mind living in denial or taking on a newly crafted identity taught to them by the fake Thai educational school system, but DON'T forget to PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE JUST LIKE IGNORANT JEK when the both of them try and disregard true Lao cultural history/historical contributions.
For example, how do you think it feels for Lao people on the Eastern bank of the river to have Isan Lao claim EVERYTHING that IS CULTURALLY NATIVE TO OUR PEOPLE in the name of the Thai nation? Especially when IN FACT it did not originate there but was brought over there because of forced migration of our people? A lot of Isan even look different from ancestral Lao on the East Bank now because Siamese loved to combine and mix people (heck even they are heavily mixed themselves) in order to "thin" out bloodlines in hopes to have the newer generation see themselves as different! Sad think is that this has largely worked! I see and read it ALL the time when Isan even claim this self hate for themselves, saying how Lao on Eastern bank is generally lighter and better looking than them.
Unlike some Lao who want Isan to join with the "original motherland" again, I BELIEVE this will NOT benefit Lao of Muang Lao at all. Isan reminds me of a "rogue" place where a lot of people are resentful and angry at times (just look at how they treated all of the refugees back in the day just because Central Government told them to). To me, because they have been Siamese and Jek's b!tch for so long, the MAJORITY of them wouldn't think twice when it comes to betraying or killing their own kind because they've been influenced by them for FAR TOO LONG! They now have that "famous" Thai mentality that everyone around the world is so sick of. If some of you don't live by them or are around some of them, you may not know what I mean. The majority of Lao Isan is so heavily tainted by Central Thai now, that even A LOT OF LAO in the states who lived in neighborhoods eventually move away whenever Isan Thai-Lao move into areas because they can't stand that selfish, angry, and ignorant mentality a lot of them display to their own kind.
Because of all the $hit Isan Lao and Southern Malay Thai has had to deal with greedy Central Siamese and Jek for too long, the only beneficial thing for them now is to have their own separate states.For ALL YOU JEK WHO ARE IN DENIAL, you know it's dam well possible for new nations to form, even in our modern times. Nations rise and fall all of the time. Just because the world is more technologically advanced, doesn't mean humankind will not stop war with one another too.
Also, for all you Lao on AF who still have some relatives in Isan:
Yes, blood is thicker than water but don't forget....there have been plenty of chances now days for Lao Isan to reunite or make more peace with Lao on the East but sadly the majority choose not to. We still have a LONG WAY TO GO because they now have that newly crafted "Thai" mentality! A lot of them may not mind living in denial or taking on a newly crafted identity taught to them by the fake Thai educational school system, but DON'T forget to PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE JUST LIKE IGNORANT JEK when the both of them try and disregard true Lao cultural history/historical contributions.
Dammit, when will you become the President of Laos? I would love to have a smart Lao woman like you represent our motherland. I really don't understand why some people worry so much about the people in Issan. Yes, many of them are related to us, but they're Thai citizens. You don't see British people worrying about their American descendants, do you? Laos and Thailand are two separate countries. Laos is growing at a fast rate and our future is bright. There's no need to bring drama to our country by getting involved with Thailand and its political problems. Laos is now very stable, peaceful, and SAFE.
I also do not have any connection to Isan, which is why it doesn't matter to me that they are Thai citizens...just please don't degrade our Lao culture and cuisine by referring to them as "Thai" and especially this made up term "Issan". I don't care that people in Issan are Thai citizens, but that doesn't make our foods and traditional music become Thai all of a sudden. Thai people have their own culture and foods and they need to keep them separate from ours.
Lao people in Laos do not look down on the ones in Issan, but we do feel sorry for them ONLY if they refer to our Lao dishes and other cultural things as "Issan" or "Thai". It's like this....stop eating our foods if you're not going to give credit to their origins in Laos.
As far as language is concerned, the dominant accent in Issan does NOT represent the Lao language. Even I sometimes would have problems understanding what is being said by someone from Issan. I think they've been too influenced by Khmer/Thai language that I think their accent is hard to understand. However, I do realize that there are some parts of Issan that's close to the Lao border where they do speak the same as their kinfolk in Laos. But a majority of Issan people seem to have a very different accent from us native Lao folks in Laos. From what I've seen, many of them don't really look like Lao people. They sort of look more Thai/Siamese IMO (i.e. darker than native Lao people).
Some Jek thai believe they invented Thailand.
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