Pray4u
Nov 3 2009, 02:59 AM
Hi,
As a Westerner, I would love to hear about the experiences of Christians in China firsthand. If you are a Christian in China it would be great to hear from you.
Thanks
JP
froglee
Nov 9 2009, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (Pray4u @ Nov 3 2009, 03:59 AM)

Hi,
As a Westerner, I would love to hear about the experiences of Christians in China firsthand. If you are a Christian in China it would be great to hear from you.
Thanks
JP
Horrible. One of my Chinese friend who is a Christian just got sent into a reeducation camp in China.
sewoth
Nov 9 2009, 09:41 PM
As long as you don't parade around and cause mass incidences, there is no problem at all.
I have seen churches in China, with a big crucifix on the rooftop and no sneaky government agents. lol.
Evertonite
Dec 1 2009, 02:28 PM
I am sure it must feel like being a Hindu in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. Maybe a bit better.
UnZipped
Dec 1 2009, 11:19 PM
im not christian but do know a christian friend from guangdong. there hasnt been any complaints.
Suijen
Dec 7 2009, 09:21 AM
I know a girl who converted to Christianity. Not surprising, the Chinese "Christians" approach to Christianity is the same as their approach to Buddhism: half-hearted and surprisingly lazy. Buy a necklace with a buddha on it, never go to church, and you're still a bonafide Buddhist. It's so ambiguous that statistics on Buddhists in China can jump easily even in a double/blind whatnot because people aren't quite feeling "Buddhist" today.
Oh yeah, but back on topic, being Christian is usually no problem in China, but there are a number of problems you may run into.
First, most churches are state supported and so expect a Chinese version of the Bible.
Second, the churches that aren't state supported (underground) are either treated apathetically or aggressively by the government. Avoid these if possible, for your own sake.
Third, being related to the second topic, the government still disapproves of organizations that are outside the reach of the state, and worse, that can challenge state authority. So, avoid doing anything that could cause controversy.
Socially, being Christian is just that, being Christian. Most Chinese will probably be impressed by your nose than by your religion.
scorpy
Dec 9 2009, 09:05 PM
QUOTE (froglee @ Nov 9 2009, 08:01 PM)

Horrible. One of my Chinese friend who is a Christian just got sent into a reeducation camp in China.
This is the kind of response westerners love to hear. They will probably post your comment on their blogs and say, "See, I knew it".
African
Dec 15 2009, 02:37 PM
QUOTE (scorpy @ Dec 9 2009, 10:05 PM)

This is the kind of response westerners love to hear. They will probably post your comment on their blogs and say, "See, I knew it".
Westerners love to hear fake and unfounded responses. Since I was born I have never heard any christian being victimized in China. Chinese love peace with everyone
Silkcat
Dec 18 2009, 11:16 PM
i dont think it's a problem in china, it's not as free as in US but it's still like very free in religions, ppl dont rlly care becuz most of them r atheists, they think more logically than any other coutries due to their non-religious society.
African
Dec 20 2009, 01:22 AM
QUOTE (Silkcat @ Dec 18 2009, 11:16 PM)

i dont think it's a problem in china, it's not as free as in US but it's still like very free in religions, ppl dont rlly care becuz most of them r atheists, they think more logically than any other coutries due to their non-religious society.
Is chinese non religious society????
blackosama
Dec 20 2009, 01:54 PM
Like Israel and most Muslim countries, China doesn't allow Christian proselytization.
African
Dec 20 2009, 02:15 PM
QUOTE (blackosama @ Dec 20 2009, 02:54 PM)

Like Israel and most Muslim countries, China doesn't allow Christian proselytization.
This is true blackosama but you have to rem that religion is in ones mind.
sinraptor
Dec 20 2009, 07:20 PM
QUOTE (blackosama @ Dec 20 2009, 11:54 AM)

Like Israel and most Muslim countries, China doesn't allow Christian proselytization.
Of course China allows churches as long as they register. They wouldn't have something to hide if they had registered.
mannstein
Dec 21 2009, 01:13 AM
well , you can purchase bible in china , nevertheless , the communist government will somehow make you understand that , materialistic world view of karl max is real, and then preachs there is no afterlife .
all those fantastic afterlife tales are lies trys to lure you buy in
mannstein
Dec 21 2009, 01:14 AM
well , you can purchase bible in china , nevertheless , the communist government will somehow make you understand that , materialistic world view of karl max is real, and then preachs there is no afterlife .
all those fantastic afterlife tales are lies trys to lure you buy in
African
Dec 21 2009, 03:04 PM
QUOTE (mannstein @ Dec 21 2009, 01:14 AM)

well , you can purchase bible in china , nevertheless , the communist government will somehow make you understand that , materialistic world view of karl max is real, and then preachs there is no afterlife .
all those fantastic afterlife tales are lies trys to lure you buy in
What do you mean mannstein?? Do you mean there is no life after death????
orange peel
Dec 21 2009, 11:28 PM
if there was life after death, then it wouldn't be death.
African
Dec 22 2009, 10:41 AM
QUOTE (orange peel @ Dec 22 2009, 12:28 AM)

if there was life after death, then it wouldn't be death.
When Lazarus died, Jesus said that he was not dead but asleep.
Rem He made him come back to life again.
One must die in order to get a spiritual body which never dies.
Truely there is life after death
mannstein
Dec 22 2009, 11:58 PM
QUOTE (African @ Dec 21 2009, 04:04 PM)

What do you mean mannstein?? Do you mean there is no life after death????
surely there is afterlife , but this not what communist doctrin believes, therefore , though you can believe whatever you want to believe in china , but nevertheless , the chinese government will always purswayed you to accept that communist world view of materialism , that is everything that is tangible is real , other than that is merely a dilusion ,
therefore , afterlife is un-forseenble , it is only a wishful thinking .
thats what chinese government's attitude .
karl max's materialistic world view is what chinese government want everybody to accept .
orange peel
Dec 23 2009, 01:24 AM
chinese people arn't that religious in the first place, can you name an instance in which the chinese government tried to persuade someone into believing that there is no afterlife?
Suijen
Dec 23 2009, 09:04 AM
QUOTE (orange peel @ Dec 23 2009, 03:24 PM)

chinese people arn't that religious in the first place, can you name an instance in which the chinese government tried to persuade someone into believing that there is no afterlife?
I suppose the Cultural Revolution, but that was less the government and more the red guards.
But you're right in that the Chinese generally aren't very big on religion. Even all that stuff they had before Buddhism was more philosophy and superstition than actual religion.
andersmusician
Dec 23 2009, 08:19 PM
QUOTE (Suijen @ Dec 23 2009, 09:04 AM)

I suppose the Cultural Revolution, but that was less the government and more the red guards.
But you're right in that the Chinese generally aren't very big on religion. Even all that stuff they had before Buddhism was more philosophy and superstition than actual religion.
not philosophy, the OP asked how the people thought not how academics did.
But seriously I'd prefer P.R.C's policy on religion over American policy any day.
mannstein
Dec 25 2009, 11:33 AM
QUOTE (orange peel @ Dec 23 2009, 02:24 AM)

chinese people arn't that religious in the first place, can you name an instance in which the chinese government tried to persuade someone into believing that there is no afterlife?
in china before you can become a sucessful monk , it is vital for you to study maxims , to understand materilsm of maxes .
why the hell a buddist needs learn the theory of karl max ,
communist government
886
Dec 25 2009, 10:28 PM
QUOTE (mannstein @ Dec 25 2009, 11:33 AM)

in china before you can become a sucessful monk , it is vital for you to study maxims , to understand materilsm of maxes .
why the hell a buddist needs learn the theory of karl max ,
communist government
lol, first u did not know what maxism is. Second u did not know what buddhism is. A lot of buddhists in china also knew taoism and christian well.
So stop to use the word "communism"and so on.
U do not have the right to speak for chinese people.
Suijen
Dec 27 2009, 01:11 AM
I went to a Christian church two days ago during Christmas. It's just boring.
sinraptor
Dec 28 2009, 11:52 AM
Chinese people often credit christianity with the success of the western nations hence the growing numbers. Christianity can do some good for China as it will add compassion to Chinese soceity
African
Dec 29 2009, 06:04 AM
QUOTE (Suijen @ Dec 27 2009, 01:11 AM)

I went to a Christian church two days ago during Christmas. It's just boring.
Sujien you should apologize. Are you saying that God's church is boring Sujien??
God will judge you when the big day comes. I feel for you. I wish you do not even apologize in the forum but do so to God who sees everything.
Yuyutsu
Dec 29 2009, 07:52 AM
This "western" fellow is doing reconnaissance work for the Church. Boxer "rebels" gave their lives fighting the deception and imperialist designs of the Church. Nobody wants to end up like native americans- genocided with bible in hand, and their lands in the hand of the white man and his church.
Christianity is imperialist war propaganda against native societies. Look up Joseph Atwill's work Caesar's Messiah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCNJf83bqjs
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