Ok I know some of you like rap or hip hop whichever, hip hop is a lifestyle and rapping is what you do. Anyway, I thought I would start this up so then we can discuss current and past history of the peoples involved in this booming entertrainment empire. Discuss who you like, who you hate, famous or even witty rap quotables, new releases, questions on a particular artist. You can be as negative as you want, but dont start bashing an individual AF member, stay on the topic of who the rappers is. Lets begin.

ok I'll join
I feel that rap is not the same
Like back when Deathrow was on top
Master P was still hungry and kept making hits
When Snoop was a gangster rap star not this pop star he has become
sh!t like the Luniz T.R.U and tight as hell soundtracks like above the rim and Murder was the case
I still love my rap but I just wish some artists didn't lose there hunger for the game
know what i'm saying

Rap has gone through lots of stages. Alot of people thought it was just a fad in the eighties, still thought it was fad in the ninties, now those same people are on rap nuts. As rapping became more clever with punchlines, battling became a big big way of expressing anger and dissing but in a clever, witty way. Seeing that battling started back in the streets of NYC, Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx back in the early to mid eighties, it still continuded on for a another decade and a half. One of the most famous battles were, LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee, Krs - One vs Mc Shan, Craig G vs. Supernatural etc etc. THat also brought in some of the noted beefs that most people were unaware of. Common and Ice Cube had beef, Eazy E and Dre w/ Snoop, Krs and Shan. The list goes on as the new era of rap was evolving. But even though todays rap is pplluted with such nonsense status quotes, it still has some flare left in it. The jiggy era seems to be still going strong and getten worse. Back in the Mid Ninties I jsut couldnt stand listening to that $hit anymore, I started paying more attention to underground, unsigned cats of nation or local talents. That was a goldmine of untapped writtens, some to be the illest bars ever spitten by less than famed names. Back when Company Flow first came out, that $hit was insane, original beats with crazy mentals ever thought up of. Besides Wu-tang clan, the entire Boot Camp Click was probably the only other group that had that many memeber to be as raw as the Wu, but kept it more underground. The westcoast had a list of nice cats that were holding it down, like the Alcoholics (now Liks) and the Likwit Crew including Xzibit, Heiroglyphics crew, Dialated Peoples, Encore, Rasco, Planet Asia, cats that were still trying to keep it original but with a westcoast flare. I use to listen to all the $hit from Mc Eiht to Spice One, NWA, Luniz, Mac Mall, South Central Cartel (MUrder Squad) and of course Too $hortt.

count me in. lol... i didn't think i would try to join this clan b/c i don't know that much bout rap.. it's my brother that knows good rap.. haha.. i listen a lot of pop kinda rap.. haha...

hmm... on my playlist in the top 10...
kardinal offishall- kill the dance
masia one- milktruck man jeez.. i dun care, everyone says she has no flow but she's better than jin.. lol
talib kweli ft mary j blige- i try

the rest are slow jams n some pop.. haha... pop is gay, i know, ubt it's catchy, what can i say...

I wont deny mainstream rap, yes its catchy, catchy hooks and beats are usually hype, I liked the song maisa-1 did with Krs-one and warrned G, that joint was ok.

Snoop and Em cd drop on the 16th. And so does MF Doom, that one should be hot, dont sleep now

Correction Em Cd Drops on the 12th due to massive studio leaks

I got em's cd didnt really like it tho
Kinda like when I bought 213's new cd and wish I hadn't lol see if I like the artist I will buy there album I just hate being dissapointed
buying a cd with only one good song just pisses me off

Yeah it happends, thats how I use to do it, buy all the newest $hit every Tuesday and end up with with only a handful of bangers, Now all I do is buy vinyl.

As some may know about the R. Kelly and Jay- Z "Best of Both Worlds" tour been canceled due to R.Kellys dissatisfied lineup class and equipment plus a pending lawsuit. Jay-Z however is still finishing up the tour now entitled Jay- Z and friends.

i'm in this clan

pharrell williams is the bomb

One of my favorite lines, "I roll up on crews like long sleeves at speeds that would confuse Keenu Reeves"

hey Old Dirty Bastard is dead

^^ ive heard about him but not any of his songs (my knowledge about rap isnt that extensive)

any songs to recommend? plus how did he die

Yeah I heard it tonight when I was club hopping. R

yea, that was really sad. i heard about it when i was watching a downloaded episode of south park last night... the episode was about wal mart... yea neways RIP even tho i didn't listen to a lot of his music. he was actually in the middle of recording his comeback CD... kinda like ma$e...

Russell"Rusty" Jones aka Ol' Dirty Bastard, the "Flavor flav" of the Wu group.
Yeah he was finishing up his comeback project under the "ROC" but collapsed. Unknown of cause but probably a heart attack Im assuming. The ones that are looking for songs by him that I think are blazing, cop the "Return to the 36 Chambers", that album was hot and the other song that I still enjoy is "Dog $hit"

Aye??im in!!! Rap && HiP hoP iSh moStly all i listen to..

Ok since we are on such a slow pace here, whose everyones favorite rhyme sayer??

u of course first lol
lyrical or style wise?

style wise I got to go with DMX
and lyrical Pac WESTSIDE!!!!!!!!!!LOL

pac aint even near the best lyricist, but the impact he had on people and what he had to say was amazing, he is a str8 poet!!!! talib kweli is a pretty damn godo lyricist

I agree, Pac was more visionary. Lyrical spitfires I say would have to be Chino XL, Talib, Big L, Big Daddy Kane, Del, Redman, Biggie, Canibus, Eminem, Starang Wondah, Slugs, Cormega, Royce 5'9, Killah Preist, U-god, Inspekta Deck, Gza, Rza, fukk it the original 9 members of Wu-tang, Krs, Rakim, Pharoah Monch, Jeru da Damaja, Necro, Ill Bill, Cage, El da Sensai and Esoteric.

Can I join this group. Rap,hip-hop, and RnB is my kind of Music. I listen to just about every kind of rap like west coast, east coast, underground, dirty south, chicano, azn rap, and some others. I was about to make a rap clan but I found this one, so Please can I join???

Whoa, I had forgotten about this. hahahahahahaha

Well Can I join anyway?

Of course! What dont you list off who you feel.

What? Sorry I can be slow at times.

List off the people you like to listen to.

Crap.... Thats alot 2Pac,(of course), Mr. Capone-e, Terror Squad,Chingy,Nelly, Big Pun, Biggie Smalls,Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, some N.W.A., uh I like ALOT of stuff.

Nice list Lao_Dreamer have u heard 2pac's Loyal to the Game album?

oh man i like 2pac w/ elton john 'ghetto gospel' lol... i'm so mainstream, i should be ashamed...

The Notorious BIG.
Eastside for life.*smirk*
I'll join also.
Rap artists I like:
The Notorious BIG, Eminem, DMX, Snoop Dogg, Dr.Dre, Ludacris, Lloyd Banks, Run DMC, etcetc.
Mostly anything catchy.
At times 2Pac because there are a few songs I can relate to and I love so some props to him.

Don't think I have. But that man has to many songs and $hit out. I can't remember everything 2 Is it his new album that just came out?

yes it is

I have that Pac cd too, its ok. The most played cd played right now in my deck is Alchemist "1st Infantry"

I saw that dude on MTV. I didn't get 2Pac's new album though. I can't keep up with that man! 2

You seen Alchemist on MtV?? What was he doing or talking about??

$hit I don't remember maybe it was BET. I can't remeber $hit. If I knew I'd tell ya. I think It was bout his cd or some $hit. It was like a week or two ago.

i got the new pac cd and i thought it was pretty sick the way eminem did those beats. But, i doubt some of the authenticity of pac's words in the songs such as when he says "g-unit" in one of the songs

WTF? He said G-Unit? I swear that dude is still alive! cuz G-Unit started in like 2002 or somethin'. He has to be alive or they got someone who sounds just like him. I think he's alive. He still got cd's comin out and he got mixtapes I mean there is no way he could of done all that unless he rapped in his sleep. 2

You can alter any type of sound with key corrections with the technology we have these days. Before Pac was murdered, he had enough songs written that never was recorded to make another 7 full length albums.

Hmmmm.... Your really smart!

i thought i saw a music video of his? haha.. i was like wtf? this guy is white? HAHAHA j/k i knew he was white but i didn't think it was true

I saw like 15 seconds of it. I didn't really like it.

You were suprised that Alchemist was white???? $hit, he's been around for awhile lacing beats, and he's quite the producer with lots of street cred.

I finally lisyened to 2Pac's "Loyal to Tha Game" His song 'Ghetto Gospel' was good. It's kinda weird that they got Elton John on it. so far I like "Black Cotton" and "Thugs Get Lonely Too" I'm still listening to the rest 2

er.. anyone got the joyful rebellion on their pc? i want it... haha illegally.. his cd is too fakking overpriced... i just need the song 'love song' i'm really feelin it right now... can anyone send it by like gmail haha... i use soulseek to d/l, so little files to search from...

EDIT: haha forgot if u don't know, that's k-os...

EDIT2: HAHA lao, u know you loved that elton john $hit...

Yeah Right.

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Ok you hip hop rap fanatics, Ive been sleeping on giving you some news so here I go,

First off The Aftermath label looks like its going to have quite a
prestige year for the 05 if everything goes well.
Dre's Detox album looks like it will be completed since Dre has
been sweated and hasseled by so many.
Eve and Busta Rhymes album should be in
the final stages and looking for a Spring/Summer release. The Game which
also is looking to drop his highly anticipated album by Jan 18th. His song "How We Do" is quite nice. 50 Cent has been wrecking shop with his
"Disco Inferno" single and his "St. Valentines Day" is said to be dropping
on Feb. 15th. Even though I dont like 50 his beats and guests appearences make it worthy.

Law suit in progress?? It looks like Kanyeezy(West) and Luda is in for some
legal matter as the New Jersey based group I.O.F. (Its Only Family) is
claiming that the Luda single "Stand Up" contains elements of I.O.F.'s track "Straight Up Like That". Luda has dropped disses about them on the song "Pass Out" but a rebuttal was made by them called "Fukk Ludacris" over Fat Joe's "Victim"
beat. Sounds like some serious heat if true since both Luda and Kanye are grammy award nominators.

Kanyeezy isnt off the hook just yet,it seems that the hip hop community isnttoo happy with West recieving 10 grammy nominations, not jealousy but how the recording process was done. The main reason is the single "Jesus Walks" which got nominated for both best rap and song of the year, was actually bought by Kanye from Rhymefest who is credited for co-writing the song. It is also rumored that Rhymefest indeed was who wrote and produced the track then sold it to Kanye but the was re-recorded.

Shyne is linking up with Marky Mark(Walberg) to make a docu. on prisoner life. Walberg has interviewed several other inmates and also other artists. It looks like it might make it to the silver screenand Shyne's 3rd solo album is in the works production by Kanyeezy, Just Blaze and the ALchemist!!! Looks liuke Shyne's career looks alot more shinier inside prison than most of the ones outside of the clink. haha

The Canadien rapper K-os has been making a serious name for himself.
He is already gold in Canada and is the #1 most downladable on the
Apple I-Pod center is "Crabbuckit" Check out his song "The Love Song".
Its still good to hear some non-flashy songs

Here something of interest, according to A.J. Abdullah who helped
concieve Eminem's first album has decided to auction off the studio known as Studio 8 in which created the Grammy award winning rapper. Located on the 8 Mile strip where Em grew up is being bid off on Ebay by A.J. for $215,000.


Other news for you rap heads.

It looks like hip hop slang has found its way into the Webster English Dictionary.
Bling Bling has been added couple years ago I beleive, but now
added one word punchlines including "thugged out", "crack ho", and "hoochie"

And the final news is the whole 50/Murder Inc Beef. Accusations have surfaced that the truth behind the beef lies in the lap
of Kenneth"Supreme" Mcgriff and his connections to the Inc. Mcgriff whose been under high investigastion through the F.B.I for laundering money to the label, has been said to be the directly responsible for odering the life of 50 back in '00. Even bigger rumors is that McGriff is also connected in the murder of 50's ma when he
was a child. These are just rumors as of date that surfaced so dont think its factual, just yet.


Anyway sorry for such delays on keeping you informed on the subject as there are more
news on the way, its just Im too lazy to write up the news. Until then, Keep it Freshhhhhhhh, ganksta!!!!!!

Damn. Your sure know your rap I thought Murder Inc. was know The Inc. I got the Mixtape "Invasion Part 2" and in it Ja said "And 5O You gon get shot again, by the M-U-R-E-D-R inc. hahahaha He can't spell, that's why they changed it, or I just Have bad hearing Well thanks for the Info, I'm kinda behind on everything.

yea, so, do you have it? LOL... i was never one, to... buy things... oh, and IMO b-boy stance was way better than both of them.. it's just that love song is fresh so... haha and crabbuckit got annoying... i heard it way too many times on tv and then all of a sudden i heard it on BET.. IN LIKE OCTOBER! =O it drove me crazy it's 57th on my playlist still though... one of the best songs of the summer IMO...

Hamlet you're from Canada right?? Have you ever listened to Lateef or Lyrics Born?? Or how about Swollen Memebers. Good Hip hop man!

lateef or lyrics born? hhaaha never heard.. swollen members? yea... i don't like them anymore

only ones i like these days are masia1 (b/c she's the greatest asian MC w/o a penis ), k-os n of course, kardinal...

but erm, i'm sure there are more, i just can't remember... do you know, erm.. forgot his name.. sean booth? =O forgot his rap name.. (EDIT: rikoshay! =D) and brassmunk.. and erm.. there's this group juice, i'm not sure if they're canadian or not... heh.. it was a real old song so i dun remember...