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salamat
this is so cool...i'd like to try this out one day on my cousin embarassedlaugh.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmp2_WdFoPE...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s66QUVtyDpc...feature=related
silangan
Is this also ancient thing in the Visayas?, I mean the principles to this particular martial art.

I know about Arnis as an old old Pinoy thing. My great granpa was skilled with it.
salamat
yup...ancient visayans used it in times of war
Suzuka00
QUOTE (salamat @ Nov 14 2009, 09:24 AM) *
yup...ancient visayans used it in times of war

Visayans are already in Mindanao Island in prehispanic era but got more land when the spanish came,but those are Surigaonon,Davaoenyo/Dinabaw,Kalagan and Butuanon speakers...

I was thinking who were the more stronger group is it the Visayans or the Manobos,Subanon and Iranuns(Maguindanao,Maranao).
filipinoy
Yeah the people who benefited from the Spanish era & expanded their territory are the Tagalogs, Ilocanos & Visayans
salamat
QUOTE (filipinoy @ Nov 15 2009, 07:27 PM) *
Yeah the people who benefited from the Spanish era & expanded their territory are the Tagalogs, Ilocanos & Visayans


the hiliganyon, kinaray-a, and illongo were already dominating Panay island or Western Visayas before the spanish came
Suzuka00
QUOTE (filipinoy @ Nov 15 2009, 08:27 PM) *
Yeah the people who benefited from the Spanish era & expanded their territory are the Tagalogs, Ilocanos & Visayans

The Manobo-Maranao group,Mangyans and the People of areas mentioned in the Will of Pansonum were the most negatively affected by the spanish era.

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the hiliganyon, kinaray-a, and illongo were already dominating Panay island or Western Visayas before the spanish came


The Cuyonons who are related to Kinaray-A were dominating S.Mindoro and Cuyo Island as well,Ploning of Juday is in that idiom.
sks88
i remember first time seeing it, it is bad @$$..wouldnt fu-k with that instructor dude in the streets at allll
Najjiah
astig!
AzNboii
psshh that nigga couldnt c me on his best day!!!
silangan
QUOTE (salamat @ Nov 15 2009, 09:02 PM) *
the hiliganyon, kinaray-a, and illongo were already dominating Panay island or Western Visayas before the spanish came


I think Hiligaynon or Ilonggo, Karay-a and Sugbu-ano are one and the same before Spain came. The languages are mutually intelligible.

I mean, the moment I got to hear Ilonggo, I understand it right away, even when I wasn't really exposed to it before.

I speak Cebuano of the Davawenyo variety.
flora766
The pakal knife fighting method uses the reverse grip. pakal , in the Visayan dialect of the Philippines, means to rip. Similar to an animal’s claws, pakal movements are designed to pull in and tear apart flesh, not push it away. Most knife fighters want their edge facing the attacker so the attacker has to fight through the edge to get to them. They use knife thrusts to keep attackers away. While most pakal thrusts are a backward motion, forward thrust are also used. But, because the blade faces backward, the reach of forward thrusts and the depth of penetration is limited. In pakal , thrust are the primary attacking motion; any cutting, shearing, or tearing are considered secondary.

When you push an attacker away, he or she will probably attack again. This constant disengagement and reengagement creates to many opportunities for something to go wrong. When you thrust forward, the attacker will usually step back to avoid or diminish the power of the strike, and then step back in for another attack. In pakal , if the attacker pulls back, he or she will move into the power of the strike. If the attacker does not pull back, the strike will still pull forward into the attacker. When people are cut, they tend to jerk away quickly, so if a preliminary cut is made on the way in for a backward thrust, it will cause the person to jerk backward into your thrust.

In a pakal knife fight, you do not square off with the attacker and have a lengthy duel; you use deception, feints, speed, ferocity, and controlling tactics to end the confrontation as soon as possible. Since pakal uses a lot of thrusting and ripping, a short blade held in a reverse grip is the best weapon.

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QUOTE (silangan @ Nov 14 2009, 10:15 PM) *
Is this also ancient thing in the Visayas?, I mean the principles to this particular martial art.

I know about Arnis as an old old Pinoy thing. My great granpa was skilled with it.



NOPE...IT IS ALSO IN BRUCE LEE'S BOOK TAO OF JEET KUNE DO...
martin_nuke
There are many Philippines Martial Arts techniques in Jeet kune do.
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