African
Dec 12 2009, 10:15 AM
I have heard of many Africans in Asia and how they relate with the locals. I would like to know if Africans are welcome in Mongolia
Asian7
Dec 12 2009, 02:32 PM
QUOTE (African @ Dec 12 2009, 11:15 AM)

I have heard of many Africans in Asia and how they relate with the locals. I would like to know if Africans are welcome in Mongolia
African, although I am not a Mongolian, as an East Asian, I say we generally do not welcome Africans. You Africans always want to be accepted by other races. Blacks are blacks, whites are whites and East Asians('Mongol' peoples) are East Asians. We want to remain as we are. So, don't immigrate en masse to Asia as you are doing in Europe. We want to maintain our identities and do not wish to be swallowed in by so many African immigrants!
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 02:36 PM
I have a feeling we're going to need more COPS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca_sxbu6FoA
matigasngulo
Dec 12 2009, 02:49 PM
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 02:51 PM
lol. there's going to be 50 fried chicken resturaunts opening x)
spagetti
Dec 12 2009, 02:58 PM
QUOTE (Asian7 @ Dec 12 2009, 03:32 PM)

African, although I am not a Mongolian, as an East Asian, I say we generally do not welcome Africans. You Africans always want to be accepted by other races. Blacks are blacks, whites are whites and East Asians('Mongol' peoples) are East Asians. We want to remain as we are. So, don't immigrate en masse to Asia as you are doing in Europe. We want to maintain our identities and do not wish to be swallowed in by so many African immigrants!
keep in mind there are alot of trolls in here who may or may not be asian. Many white people from st0rmfront like to come here and manipulate.
Asian7
Dec 12 2009, 03:04 PM
QUOTE (spagetti @ Dec 12 2009, 02:58 PM)

keep in mind there are alot of trolls in here who may or may not be asian. Many white people from st0rmfront like to come here and manipulate.
Hahaha. I am not from Stormfront. 100% Asian. Just stating my opinion.
spagetti
Dec 12 2009, 03:07 PM
QUOTE (Asian7 @ Dec 12 2009, 04:04 PM)

Hahaha. I am not from Stormfront. 100% Asian. Just stating my opinion.
sure...your name has "asian" in it so you MUST be asian! hahah
African
Dec 12 2009, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (Asian7 @ Dec 12 2009, 02:32 PM)

African, although I am not a Mongolian, as an East Asian, I say we generally do not welcome Africans. You Africans always want to be accepted by other races. Blacks are blacks, whites are whites and East Asians('Mongol' peoples) are East Asians. We want to remain as we are. So, don't immigrate en masse to Asia as you are doing in Europe. We want to maintain our identities and do not wish to be swallowed in by so many African immigrants!
You are not even an Asian. Africans are not thieves and even if we were we can not be able to steal their(Asian's) identities. What we want is only fair business with Asians unlike Westerns who have plundered our economies
spagetti
Dec 12 2009, 03:09 PM
monglolians are only racist against chinese so africans have nothing to worry about lol.
African
Dec 12 2009, 03:13 PM
QUOTE (Asian7 @ Dec 12 2009, 03:04 PM)

Hahaha. I am not from Stormfront. 100% Asian. Just stating my opinion.
You may be an Asian by birth but come from a different location of the world in reasoning and prejudicing.
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 03:17 PM
lol african did you have to post threads like these in EVERY section?
matigasngulo
Dec 12 2009, 03:21 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 03:17 PM)

lol african did you have to post threads like these in EVERY section?
in all except for c-chat...
spagetti
Dec 12 2009, 03:21 PM
QUOTE (African @ Dec 12 2009, 03:13 PM)

You may be an Asian by birth but come from a different location of the world in reasoning and prejudicing.
white people want to manipulate asians because they fear us the most. Many times white people come here pretending to be asian and trying to cause conflict between different asian ethnic groups
Asian7
Dec 12 2009, 03:38 PM
QUOTE (spagetti @ Dec 12 2009, 03:21 PM)

white people want to manipulate asians because they fear us the most. Many times white people come here pretending to be asian and trying to cause conflict between different asian ethnic groups
I think the whites fear Chinese(from China) the most.Generally speaking, of course. Well, they can try to 'manipulate' but quite frankly I think there is no way Europe or the USA can stop the 'rise' of China as a new 'superpower' to reckon with. All the talk of the West 'concerned' about human rights inChina(although it's true there are horrible human rights abuses there) is more about using that issue to weaken the current regime in China and hopefully lead to destruction like the Soviet Union. Although I dislike the current Chinese regime, I do not wish to see China destroyed by such manipulations. Perhaps I should discuss about that issue in the Chinese forum session. I am a Malaysian Chinese actually. We do have many African students in our country nowadays and because of the way many misbehave themselves in my country(compared to other Asian migrants like Burmese, Nepalese and Vietnamese for example, and 'expats' from Japan, Korea, European countries), many of us are wary or do not like/welcome Africans. You can call it prejudice, you can call me racist - but that's my opinion.
spagetti
Dec 12 2009, 03:42 PM
QUOTE (Asian7 @ Dec 12 2009, 03:38 PM)

I think the whites fear Chinese(from China) the most.Generally speaking, of course. Well, they can try to 'manipulate' but quite frankly I think there is no way Europe or the USA can stop the 'rise' of China as a new 'superpower' to reckon with. All the talk of the West 'concerned' about human rights inChina(although it's true there are horrible human rights abuses there) is more about using that issue to weaken the current regime in China and hopefully lead to destruction like the Soviet Union. Although I dislike the current Chinese regime, I do not wish to see China destroyed by such manipulations. Perhaps I should discuss about that issue in the Chinese forum session. I am a Malaysian Chinese actually. We do have many African students in our country nowadays and because of the way many misbehave themselves in my country(compared to other Asian migrants like Burmese, Nepalese and Vietnamese for example, and 'expats' from Japan, Korea, European countries), many of us are wary or do not like/welcome Africans. You can call it prejudice, you can call me racist - but that's my opinion.
Asians are mostly racist against each other. Different asian countries hate other asian countries. It seems like most of them hate chinese though (especially mongolians).
Asian7
Dec 12 2009, 03:45 PM
QUOTE (African @ Dec 12 2009, 03:09 PM)

You are not even an Asian. Africans are not thieves and even if we were we can not be able to steal their(Asian's) identities. What we want is only fair business with Asians unlike Westerns who have plundered our economies
Well, too bad , I am an Asian. Of course, I am not going to 'prove' in this forum that I am Asian because in no way can I prove it unless you meet me in person and see for yourself that I am Asian indeed. >>we can not be able to steal their(Asian's) identities<< Of course you can if more and more African migrants come here, we will lose our own country! Many ethnicities have lost their identities because of demographic pressure from mass immigrations. eg. the Manchus in China - only a smattering can speak Manchurian and all are so mixed with the Chinese that they have almost but lost their identities. We Asians do not mind trrading with Africa and yes, Afriacns can come for visits and studies even. But I don't want them to immigrate en masse to our nations. My opinion - too bad if you find it offensive.
Asian7
Dec 12 2009, 03:56 PM
QUOTE (spagetti @ Dec 12 2009, 03:42 PM)

Asians are mostly racist against each other. Different asian countries hate other asian countries. It seems like most of them hate chinese though (especially mongolians).
>>Asians are mostly racist against each other. << You are quite right about that. Although I think the Koreans and Chinese get along quite fine. I am not sure why Japan hated the Chinese in the past because so much of Japan's culture came from China(eg Tang dynasty influence). I think Korea, Japan and Vietnam have 'sinitic' cultures , heavily influenced by China but only Korea has less animosities towards the Chinese. I can understand why the Vietnamese are wary of the Chinese because in the past they ruled over Vietnam for lengthy periods of time and frequent wars and revolts occured between the Chinese and Vietnamese. The Japan-Chinese animosity that led to Japan attempting to conquer China during WW2: that I cannot explain. As for Mongolia-China animosity: the Chinese blamed the Mongols for conquering them during the Yuan dynasty period while later when China became more powerful, her leaders lust for the whole of Mongolia and if it were not for the Soviet Union, they Mongolia would be just like Tibet of today. I empathize with the Mongolians although I am of Chinese descent. Being a minority in Malaysia, I can understand why they want to remain independent and will guard fiercely their independence.
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:24 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 03:17 PM)

lol african did you have to post threads like these in EVERY section?
Because there is growing strong ties between most Asian states and Africa
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:25 PM
QUOTE (matigasngulo @ Dec 12 2009, 03:21 PM)

in all except for c-chat...
Chinese love Africans and vice versa
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 04:28 PM
lol Are you sure?
matigasngulo
Dec 12 2009, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (African @ Dec 12 2009, 05:25 PM)

Chinese love Africans and vice versa
If that was your personal experience, that's good. Yet you are making a kind of survey in all other threads - hopefully you also took notice of that "black cantonese" thread in c-chat. it certainly gives more than a different impression.
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 04:29 PM
And the chinese love the business opportunities, not the africans themselves. lol
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:29 PM
QUOTE (Asian7 @ Dec 12 2009, 03:38 PM)

I think the whites fear Chinese(from China) the most.Generally speaking, of course. Well, they can try to 'manipulate' but quite frankly I think there is no way Europe or the USA can stop the 'rise' of China as a new 'superpower' to reckon with. All the talk of the West 'concerned' about human rights inChina(although it's true there are horrible human rights abuses there) is more about using that issue to weaken the current regime in China and hopefully lead to destruction like the Soviet Union. Although I dislike the current Chinese regime, I do not wish to see China destroyed by such manipulations. Perhaps I should discuss about that issue in the Chinese forum session. I am a Malaysian Chinese actually. We do have many African students in our country nowadays and because of the way many misbehave themselves in my country(compared to other Asian migrants like Burmese, Nepalese and Vietnamese for example, and 'expats' from Japan, Korea, European countries), many of us are wary or do not like/welcome Africans. You can call it prejudice, you can call me racist - but that's my opinion.
Thank you for your opinion but when you befriend one or two and intaract with them you will know that this is a true prejudice
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 04:31 PM
Everyone has prejudice, get over it.
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:33 PM
QUOTE (Asian7 @ Dec 12 2009, 03:45 PM)

Well, too bad , I am an Asian. Of course, I am not going to 'prove' in this forum that I am Asian because in no way can I prove it unless you meet me in person and see for yourself that I am Asian indeed. >>we can not be able to steal their(Asian's) identities<< Of course you can if more and more African migrants come here, we will lose our own country! Many ethnicities have lost their identities because of demographic pressure from mass immigrations. eg. the Manchus in China - only a smattering can speak Manchurian and all are so mixed with the Chinese that they have almost but lost their identities. We Asians do not mind trrading with Africa and yes, Afriacns can come for visits and studies even. But I don't want them to immigrate en masse to our nations. My opinion - too bad if you find it offensive.
Thank you .Your opinion is not offensive at all. Rem Manchuria was and has been a Chinese territory
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:36 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 04:28 PM)

lol Are you sure?
About what?
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 04:38 PM
chinese love africans, see my above post.
And the chinese love the business opportunities, not the africans themselves. lol
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (matigasngulo @ Dec 12 2009, 04:28 PM)

If that was your personal experience, that's good. Yet you are making a kind of survey in all other threads - hopefully you also took notice of that "black cantonese" thread in c-chat. it certainly gives more than a different impression.
This is not true coz Asian countries have invested highly in Africa I represent majority in Africa. Why are you guys always mentioning C-Chat.
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:42 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 04:31 PM)

Everyone has prejudice, get over it.
This is true but rem it is in different degrees in differnt persons
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 04:42 PM
Investing isn't the same as "loving" they're doing whats best for themselves, not for you.
matigasngulo
Dec 12 2009, 04:43 PM
everybody likes good business. africans like good business, asians like good business. i was only wondering why you already had a positive opinion on Chinese thoughts on Africans.
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:45 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 04:38 PM)

chinese love africans, see my above post.
And the chinese love the business opportunities, not the africans themselves. lol
How do you conduct business without love? Chinese love us and I tend to believe Mongols also do. Its only that you are trying to give a personal impression
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:47 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 04:42 PM)

Investing isn't the same as "loving" they're doing whats best for themselves, not for you.
And we are also doing whats best for us so this is a mutual benefit. Mongols are also welcome
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 04:47 PM
lol. Easy, determine the positive factors for your own country then go about trying to get it done. Business has nothing to do with love.
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (matigasngulo @ Dec 12 2009, 04:43 PM)

everybody likes good business. africans like good business, asians like good business. i was only wondering why you already had a positive opinion on Chinese thoughts on Africans.
This is true but Chinese has shown is actions. The Ulan botor is also welcome
matigasngulo
Dec 12 2009, 04:49 PM
so, are you making investments or planing boycotts according to the responses you receive ?
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:50 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 04:47 PM)

lol. Easy, determine the positive factors for your own country then go about trying to get it done. Business has nothing to do with love.
I strongly disagree with you. Both have to xist at the same time
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 04:52 PM
Why is that? Because you want all asians to like you? I'm sorry but that's not how business works. That's like saying the US and Middle East love each other.
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:54 PM
QUOTE (matigasngulo @ Dec 12 2009, 04:49 PM)

so, are you making investments or planing boycotts according to the responses you receive ?

Your responses are some positive and some encouraging. Just schemeng
African
Dec 12 2009, 04:55 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 04:52 PM)

Why is that? Because you want all asians to like you? I'm sorry but that's not how business works. That's like saying the US and Middle East love each other.

Nobody is a friend of all. Even you, you have people who dislike you.
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 04:57 PM
And you don't have to "love" each other to do business. lol
African
Dec 12 2009, 05:07 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 04:57 PM)

And you don't have to "love" each other to do business. lol
I ask you a question can enemies do business? Can pirates in Somalia do business with Ulan Bator govt assuming they had hijacked a Mongolian ship?
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 05:10 PM
You're going from one extreme to the other, the real world doesn't work like that. There's also middle ground, do business but neutral feelings, or do business but just tolerable feelings. I don't imagine that the chinese love africa so I'm just trying to give you a bit of reality, the Chinese don't even like their neighbors, why would they love africans?
African
Dec 12 2009, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 05:10 PM)

You're going from one extreme to the other, the real world doesn't work like that. There's also middle ground, do business but neutral feelings, or do business but just tolerable feelings. I don't imagine that the chinese love africa so I'm just trying to give you a bit of reality, the Chinese don't even like their neighbors, why would they love africans?
thehorsemen you people seem to hate China so much. Countries that border China seems to nave a negative attitude towards China. What is your personal attitude towards Africans
spagetti
Dec 12 2009, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 05:10 PM)

You're going from one extreme to the other, the real world doesn't work like that. There's also middle ground, do business but neutral feelings, or do business but just tolerable feelings. I don't imagine that the chinese love africa so I'm just trying to give you a bit of reality, the Chinese don't even like their neighbors, why would they love africans?
mongolians HATE chinese. Of course they are not going to say anything positive about china.
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 05:17 PM
No $hit, That has nothing to do with what I was discussing.
thehorsemen
Dec 12 2009, 05:18 PM
QUOTE (African @ Dec 12 2009, 05:15 PM)

thehorsemen you people seem to hate China so much. Countries that border China seems to nave a negative attitude towards China. What is your personal attitude towards Africans
I really don't have an opinion on them.
African
Dec 12 2009, 05:20 PM
QUOTE (spagetti @ Dec 12 2009, 05:15 PM)

mongolians HATE chinese. Of course they are not going to say anything positive about china.
This is what I have discovered. Most Asian countries do not like their fellow Asian countries and they seen to hate anyone who is befriending their foe country
African
Dec 12 2009, 05:21 PM
QUOTE (thehorsemen @ Dec 12 2009, 05:18 PM)

I really don't have an opinion on them.
So would you welcome us to come and do business with Mongols?
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