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wuen
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A group of twenty Chinese and Japanese scholars who recently completed a three-year joint history study have concluded that the Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) was an action of aggression by Japan against China, chinanews.cn reported today.

The scholars, selected by both governments to conduct a joint study on related Sino-Japanese history, also agreed the Nanjing massacre was a large-scale massacre against humanity.

The joint research report will be made public next month, according to Chinanews.cn.


This post is not about bashing Japanese past mistake, but to show past mistake of imperialist adventure.
ShandongDaHan
wow, did hell actually just freeze over? does this mean that this will no longer be covered up in Japanese classrooms? good way to mend ties
samnang
Wow @ having to gather a bunch of scholars and have a 3-year study on well-documented history that happened less than century ago to determine whether or not the Japanese were "aggressors."

Have the Japanese really skewed their history that much?
foi2
QUOTE (ShandongDaHan @ Dec 29 2009, 04:30 PM) *
wow, did hell actually just freeze over? does this mean that this will no longer be covered up in Japanese classrooms? good way to mend ties


it was never really covered up to begin with. The spats are really over a few lines in a textbook that's used in like 1% of the classrooms. Hardly something to boil your blood over.
wuen
QUOTE (samnang @ Dec 29 2009, 04:21 PM) *
Wow @ having to gather a bunch of scholars and have a 3-year study on well-documented history that happened less than century ago to determine whether or not the Japanese were "aggressors."

Have the Japanese really skewed their history that much?


You do not understand the importance of this joint history study of Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945). The Japanese scholars acknowledge the aggression by Japan against China. They are not a bunch of scholars, they are selected to represent the Japanese and Chinese point of view of study of history. This is a big step forward for helping the victim of this war. This study show the sincerity of the Chinese and Japanese to work toward healing the scars from the past.
ShandongDaHan
QUOTE (foi2 @ Dec 29 2009, 02:33 PM) *
it was never really covered up to begin with. The spats are really over a few lines in a textbook that's used in like 1% of the classrooms. Hardly something to boil your blood over.


The ignorance and refusal of acknowledgement from many Japanese is enough to make any Chinese more than slightly irritated. So either Japanese textbooks sugarcoats the war crimes or Japanese citizens just tend to blot it out of their memory. Both cases, are no excuses.
Manders
Oh, no $hit really?? Japan was the aggressor here???????
wuen
QUOTE (Manders @ Dec 29 2009, 05:57 PM) *
Oh, no $hit really?? Japan was the aggressor here???????

wuen
QUOTE (Manders @ Dec 29 2009, 05:57 PM) *
Oh, no $hit really?? Japan was the aggressor here???????


You underestimate the value of this joint history study of the Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945). This is a big mile stone for stopping any plan to denied the Japanese aggression like the Nanjing massacre.

The joint research report presented by scholars can be use in court in Japan to prevent revisionist of this part of history. China will not need to use political pressure or protest to make her voice heard again. This is a scholarly report which have the seal of both Japan and China approval. When the report will be release and it get a foothold in Japan, any publish revision of history of Nanjing massacre can be consider a crime in Japan. It is a big win for the victim of the war. The first step will be to use it in the court of Japan for any revision of history of Japanese aggression in China during the period of 1937-1945.
chineseboygoingtoharvard
QUOTE (wuen @ Dec 29 2009, 07:30 PM) *
You underestimate the value of this joint history study of the Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945). This is a big mile stone for stopping any plan to denied the Japanese aggression like the Nanjing massacre.

The joint research report presented by scholars can be use in court in Japan to prevent revisionist of this part of history. China will not need to use political pressure or protest to make her voice heard again. This is a scholarly report which have the seal of both Japan and China approval. When the report will be release and it get a foothold in Japan, any publish revision of history of Nanjing massacre can be consider a crime in Japan. It is a big win for the victim of the war. The first step will be to use it in the court of Japan for any revision of history of Japanese aggression in China during the period of 1937-1945.



our chinese business is not your vietnamese business i know who you are
you dont need to lie to be chinese, last time is saw you try to bullshi-t about someone chinese grammar
and told lie about him using traditional chinese when he was obvioulsy using simplifed chinese
we dont need the sympathy or support of vietnamese
we want to cut complete ties with vietnamese
wuen
QUOTE (chineseboygoingtoharvard @ Dec 29 2009, 07:39 PM) *
our chinese business is not your vietnamese business i know who you are
you dont need to lie to be chinese, last time is saw you try to bullshi-t about someone chinese grammar
and told lie about him using traditional chinese when he was obvioulsy using simplifed chinese
we dont need the sympathy or support of vietnamese
we want to cut complete ties with vietnamese


Vietnam and China will continue to have good relationship. The ties cannot be cut because China and Vietnam are neighbor and share similar culture, river, sea and heritage.

I know you are a agent provocateur that want to hurt China and Vietnam. I see plenty of people like you. You people cannot concentrate on one topic of this thread so you use provocation to show your ignorance.

You tried to hide your ignorance by trying to find fault on other people weakness instead of debating. If I took the literal meaning of the other person who wrote Chinese, it would mean that he is associating Malaysian people to a animal. It was right of me to have change his sentence into a less hostile view.
wuen
QUOTE (chineseboygoingtoharvard @ Dec 29 2009, 07:39 PM) *
our chinese business is not your vietnamese business i know who you are
you dont need to lie to be chinese, last time is saw you try to bullshi-t about someone chinese grammar
and told lie about him using traditional chinese when he was obvioulsy using simplifed chinese
we dont need the sympathy or support of vietnamese
we want to cut complete ties with vietnamese


You know nothing about me. You know as much as your imagination tell you.
886
QUOTE (wuen @ Dec 29 2009, 09:24 PM) *
Vietnam and China will continue to have good relationship. The ties cannot be cut because China and Vietnam are neighbor and share similar culture, river, sea and heritage.

I know you are a agent provocateur that want to hurt China and Vietnam. I see plenty of people like you. You people cannot concentrate on one topic of this thread so you use provocation to show your ignorance.

You tried to hide your ignorance by trying to find fault on other people weakness instead of debating. If I took the literal meaning of the other person who wrote Chinese, it would mean that he is associating Malaysian people to a animal.


OK, U ARE A FUNNY JOKE. WHY CAN'T U ADMIT UR VIET HERITAGE AND STOP TO PRETEND TO BE CHINESE?WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN CHINA AND VIETNAM IN THE PAST AND DO NOT NEED U TO TELL US. beerchug.gif
ChineseBoy1993hk
QUOTE (wuen @ Dec 29 2009, 08:24 PM) *
Vietnam and China will continue to have good relationship. The ties cannot be cut because China and Vietnam are neighbor and share similar culture, river, sea and heritage.

I know you are a agent provocateur that want to hurt China and Vietnam. I see plenty of people like you. You people cannot concentrate on one topic of this thread so you use provocation to show your ignorance.

You tried to hide your ignorance by trying to find fault on other people weakness instead of debating. If I took the literal meaning of the other person who wrote Chinese, it would mean that he is associating Malaysian people to a animal. It was right of me to have change his sentence into a less hostile view.



did i lie about your bull$hit ? no! didnt you pretend to be a fluent chinese speaker? yes. you bit-ched about someones chinese grammar when his grammar actually had nothign wrong? you lied about him using traditional chinese when it was clealry simplifed
who made up all these lies??? did i? now you pointing your finger at me? you have been exposed and better save yoruself from the embarrassment!

so i every reason to say you are fake chinese
espcially when you speak so positive abotu vietnamese which make you even more suspecious a vietnamese pretend to be chinese
wuen
QUOTE (886 @ Dec 29 2009, 08:32 PM) *
OK, U ARE A FUNNY JOKE. WHY CAN'T U ADMIT UR VIET HERITAGE AND STOP TO PRETEND TO BE CHINESE?WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN CHINA AND VIETNAM IN THE PAST AND DO NOT NEED U TO TELL US. beerchug.gif


You crazy, bad manner and experiencing bipolar disorder symptom people are funny. You work in group to achieve your result, but your result is less than the sum of their individual effects or capabilities.
886
QUOTE (wuen @ Dec 29 2009, 09:42 PM) *
You crazy, bad manner and experiencing bipolar disorder symptom people are funny. You work in group to achieve your result, but your result is less than the sum of their individual effects or capabilities.

越南猴子我现在很郑重的跟你说,对于你,棍子是解决问题的最好方法。
Sorry to liers I can not keep good manner.And see how funny u are here. embarassedlaugh.gif
ChineseBoy1993hk
QUOTE (886 @ Dec 29 2009, 08:46 PM) *
越南猴子我现在很郑重的跟你说,对于你,棍子是解决问题的最好方法。
Sorry to liers I can not keep good manner.And see how funny u are here. embarassedlaugh.gif



you dont need to feel about it
vietnamese are annoying to the point of utmost shamelessness
even after scolding him and right new another day they return make similar claim again
they hate themselves very much its very clear
wuen
QUOTE (886 @ Dec 29 2009, 08:46 PM) *
越南猴子我现在很郑重的跟你说,对于你,棍子是解决问题的最好方法。
Sorry to liers I can not keep good manner.And see how funny u are here. embarassedlaugh.gif


I will not continue to converse with you, because this thread is about "Chinese, Japanese scholars agree on Japan's aggression". If you are not debating on this topic, I will ignore you. You have taken to much space for you ignorant remark.
886
QUOTE (wuen @ Dec 29 2009, 08:54 PM) *
I will not continue to converse with you, because this thread is about "Chinese, Japanese scholars agree on Japan's aggression". If you are not debating on this topic, I will ignore you. You have taken to much space for you ignorant remark.

And it is chinese chat but not chinese wanna be chat. embarassedlaugh.gif
wuen
There are people like 886, chineseboygoingtoharvard and ChineseBoy1993hk in this forum who have no respect for the victims of Japanese aggression, because they try to distract this thread by attacking the messenger who bring news of justice to these victims. These people say they side with China, but how can they be with China when they do not contribute to the cause of the victims of Japanese aggression in this thread.

They have shown their true self in this thread, they are infiltrator, mole or just plain stupid agent provocateur.
886
QUOTE (wuen @ Dec 29 2009, 11:09 PM) *
There are people like 886, chineseboygoingtoharvard and ChineseBoy1993hk in this forum who have no respect for the victims of Japanese aggression, because they try to distract this thread by attacking the messenger who bring news of justice to these victims. These people say they side with China, but how can they be with China when they do not contribute to the cause of the victims of Japanese aggression in this thread.

They have shown their true self in this thread, they are infiltrator, mole or just plain stupid agent provocator.


LOL I think u have no right to blame me. Part of my family members living near Nanjing at that time.
I can still use standard Jianghuai mandarin greeting ur mother. beerchug.gif
Oh sorry I can pass for some people's idea. We live for the fortune but not like u hopeless viets living in the past.
So compare japanese, those chinese wanna-be viets are even more shameless.
And 滚回你越南老家去,小册老
Made in China
HOW DARE THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE EMPIRE BRUTALLY KILL 30 MILLION CHINESE AND PLUNDER/DESTROY $385 BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROPERTY (LIKE 99 TIMES THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE EMPIRE ECONOMY AT THE TIME).

The Chinese ppl will never forget this. Especially it's like less than 64 years ago. WTF.
886
QUOTE (Made in China @ Dec 29 2009, 10:53 PM) *
HOW DARE THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE EMPIRE BRUTALLY KILL 30 MILLION CHINESE AND PLUNDER/DESTROY $385 BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROPERTY (LIKE 99 TIMES THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE EMPIRE ECONOMY AT THE TIME).

The Chinese ppl will never forget this. Especially it's like less than 64 years ago. WTF.


其实中间有个很大的问题就是当时统计一塌糊涂所以中国坚持的三十万无法得到有效证据
既然日本人认了大屠杀,那就等于它们输了。再纠缠数字下去,搞不好我们就要输了。
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