3 Muslim Malaysia women caned for extramarital sex
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KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Authorities in Malaysia caned three Muslim women for having extramarital sex, making them the first women in the country to receive such punishment under Islamic law, an official said Wednesday.

The caning of women has fueled debate about whether Islamic conservatism was intruding into people's personal lives in this moderate Muslim-majority country. Another woman, Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, a 32-year-old mother of two, was sentenced to caning last year for drinking beer.

Kartika's sentence has not been carried out, but authorities at a women's prison near Kuala Lumpur on Feb. 9 caned three other Muslim women who had been convicted in an Islamic Shariah court for having sex outside of marriage, according to a Home Ministry official. They did not explain why the punishment was only announced Wednesday.

Each woman received between four and six strokes of a rattan cane, the official said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to make public statements.

Home Minister Hishammuddin Hussein announced the caning earlier Wednesday. He did not release details of their identities or when they had been sentenced but said that one of the women was released last week after spending a month in prison.

Home Ministry officials did not describe where on their bodies they received the strikes, but authorities have previously said that the caning of women would be done with a thin stick on the back — not the buttocks.

The punishment for women is supposed to be largely symbolic rather than aimed at causing pain, unlike the caning of rapists and drug smugglers with a thick rattan stick on bare buttocks that causes the skin to break and leave scars.

Officials at the women's prison who could comment on the caning were not immediately available.

It was not clear whether the men who had sex with the women were also caned, but the caning of male convicts occurs regularly for a wide range of crimes.

Kartika, the woman convicted of drinking beer, has insisted she wants to get the punishment over with, but government authorities said they needed to train personnel to properly carry out the penalty first.

Kartika's case also sparked concerns about whether conservative Islamists, who advocate harsh punishments, are gaining influence over Malaysia's justice system.

Malaysia follows a dual-track justice system. Shariah laws apply to Muslims, who account for nearly two-thirds of Malaysia's 28 million people, in all personal matters. Non-Muslims — Chinese, Indians, Sikhs and other minorities — are covered by civil laws and are not subject to Islamic courts.

If the man are non-muslim, probably foreigner, they may not be covered under the same law.

This should happen long ago. harsh punishment are the only thing that keep this people in line. In fact, i think this punishment is too soft. 6 strokes? it should be 50. and the male, muslim or not, should be punish too. Why? you know it's wrong and yet you done it nonetheless. If the non-muslim want free sex, so be it, do as much as you like among yourself, we have no desire to interfere in your religious point of view. but we Muslim are very strict when it come to morality and to us education must be accompanied by enforcement and retribution. so we want to punish a few muslim for transgressing Islamic moral codes, it's none of your business. If they don't want to be punish then don't do it.

Obviously, the woman was neither captive of war nor slave aren't they? If they are, then we may talk. Sure, there's room for sex with slaves and captives of war since they were considered slave too. but there's no slavery today and so the rules doesn't apply. and FIY, 9 years old was considered a minimum marriegable age back then. and the marriege was exceedingly happy for both. When Islam started spreading throughout Arabia, Marriage to the Prophet became an honor most women would have been delighted to accept. However, Muhammad didn't marry for pleasure as shown by his selections from available women. and He did married to only one woman for 28 years until her death.

His marriage to the very young 'A'ishah was not a frivolous act. She was the only wife alive when the need to record the details of the Prophet's personal life and practices for posterity became urgent.

Hallo Mr Mughal Mirzza

Mr Salman, Rushdie,Ayaan Hirsi Ali & Taslima Nasreen are all looking for you!

...... Kartika, the woman convicted of drinking beer, has insisted she wants to get the punishment over with, but government authorities said they needed to train personnel to properly carry out the penalty first..... The punishment for women is supposed to be largely symbolic rather than aimed at causing pain, unlike the caning of rapists and drug smugglers, etc......

Mehmet Ali Agca is also looking for you. He is not happy with your claimed to be a Mongol. He strongly believe that
you are an Indian (Mughal). madcool.gif

' A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man. 'Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed.

Book 008, Number 3425:

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared.

Book 008, Number 3427:

Umm Salama said to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her): A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) a model for you? She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhaifa said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of Abu Hudhaifa about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely).

Making peace is better than separation. An example of such peace can be felt in the story of Sawdah bint Zam'ah who WHEN SHE BECAME AGED, THE PROPHET WANTED TO DIVORCE HER, but she made peace with him by offering the night he used to spend with her to A'isha so that he would keep her. The Prophet accepted such terms and kept her.
Abu Dawud At-Tayalisi recorded that Ibn ‘Abbas said, "Sawdah feared that the Messenger of Allah might divorce her and she said, ‘O Messenger of Allah! Do not divorce me; give my day to 'A'ishah.’ And he did ...
In the Two Sahihs, it is recorded that 'A'ishah said that when Sawdah bint Zam'ah BECAME OLD, she forfeited her day to 'A'ishah and the Prophet used to spend Sawdah's night with 'A'ishah ...

That small innocent girl was still playing with dolls, damned it!

As for Khadijah, she was a wealthy lady who owned a business empire( The evidence that pre-Islamic women enjoyed more right than post Islamic condition), she had authority over him and supported that unholy man financially. If that man had intended to double cross her by practicing polygamous indulgence, she will squeeze him then and there. Have you ever wonder why your unholy man turn into sexual craved person after his first wife's demise? Think man, think.

Muhammad Ibn ‘Umar told us: Muhammad Ibn ‘Abdullah, Az-Zuhri’s nephew, told us on authority of his father that he said: an amount of one milk drink was collected in a pot or glass, so Salim used to drink it every day, for five days. After this, he used to enter at her while her head is uncovered. This was permission from Messenger of Allah to Sahla bint Suhail.

Salim used to enter Sahla’s home when he was her adopted son, but when Islam forbade the adoption, a transitional phase was necessary because Salim was like a real son to Sahla and it was difficult for her to push him away as a stranger. Furthermore, Salim have lived there almost all his life and he desired Sahla’s as much as any son desired his own mother. This is the reason for this kind of permission of the Prophet and this permission is only for Suhail after considering her complicated position. One is indeed shocked to see how this kind gesture of the Messenger is given the most disgusting interpretation.

I find it rather interesting that certain people have no understanding of historical practices in general and condemn behaviour not conforming to the times they live in as backwards. You are clearly an ignorant one of such ilk. Did you know that it was quite common to marry girls that had just attained puberty historically ? If you reply that Aishah was below that age then again we see your lack on knowledge - girls in hotter climates reach puberty earlier than those in colder climates. I know that this topic probably makes you think you actually know something and can use it to defame Islam , but curiously enough this point was never used by the medieval Christians against Islam...because they essentially practiced it themselves as well. Get of your high horse and try to educate yourself lest you look like an idiot. Prophet Muhammad didn't consummate the marriege until the time when Aishah have her first menstruation, which happen to be when she's 9 years old. Wether it is possible for a young girl to be a mother? please read this.
BBC NEWS UK

When Prophet Muhammad married Sawdah bint Zam'ah, she's a widow who’s neither young nor beautiful. The Messenger , after considering the hardship she face when she leave behind all she have for the sake of her faith, decide to marry her, not out of sexual desire, but out of his desire to provide for her during her hard time. But when the Islamic government was properly established, The prophet decide to divorce her because her need are no longer desperate and she no longer desire sex. But such is the honor of being a wife of the Prophet that Sawdah refuse it. Since she no longer desireable and desire, She willingly gave up her night in exchange for being the mother of believers, a status far exceed any pleasure this world has to offer.

Long after Khadija’s death, The messenger still mention her regularly and often visit her relatives and present them with gifts. His love for long deceased Khadijah cause his other wives, especially Aishah to grow jealous. And it’s Khadijah who proposed to The Messenger, not the other way around. And when He lived with Khadijah, he never going around spending her wealth. He lived a modest life, never wear anything or eat anything more luxurious then what a Majority of arabs of the time wear and eat. With Khadijah wealth, he could’ve built a Luxurious dwelling, and yet we never see nor heard about Prophet Muhammad Grand Palace or at least a wealthy mansion worthy of his position as a head of Islamic State.

ps: One thing i learn about Christianity is that, when they're strict, they're too strict and when they are lenient, they are too lenient. excessive in both ways.

Is it?? Tell them to be careful lest some assassin from certain group attempt to assassinate them just for speaking the truth. We all know about the fate of Asma' Bint Marwan and Abu Afak some thousands years ago.

message from Salman Rushdie,Ayaaan Hirsi Ali,Taslima Nasreen:
Come and see the Dutch Govt. They are looking for someone like you to replace Ayaan Hirsi Ali .
as a member of the House of Representatives (the lower house of the Dutch parliament), representing the People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD).

this country is so backwards lol

Double standard again. Will you exonerate someone who have sex with a 9 year old girl and accumulating more than 11 sexual partners throughout his lifetime? Some of the sexual partners he didn't even marry for example, Mariyya Qibtiyya. As for Safiah, after completely obliterated the male members of her tribes, he had sex with her on the same day. Is that moral thing to do? Don't come and talk moral when your unholy thug committed all these despicable things. Your kind licensed unlimited sex with female captive of wars. That's immoral.

Besides, caning under Sharia Laws in Malaysia is not harsh at all, more or less like caning in public schools. Furthermore, the caning only involve a light rattan rod with the accused sitting. At most, the caning is less than 6 times at all. It is like caning the errant kids or bullies at most!

Blatant misrepresentation of facts.

Please provide sources for the highlighted statement.

am really tired of sugarcoating agenda here.

Mr Proto, Taliban, Saudis and Iranian Mullas are unhappy with your candy version of caning.

What's next? Caning with toothbrush?

Only the women were caned, but the men got scott free.

PUTRAJAYA:

Buat pertama kali, tiga wanita yang melakukan kesalahan jenayah syariah menjalani hukuman sebat pada 9 Februari lalu di Penjara Wanita Kajang, kata Menteri Dalam Negeri Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein.

Sambil merujuk kepada hukuman sebatan ke atas Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarnor yang belum pun dilaksanakan, beliau berkata kes itu sengaja digembar-gemburkan kerana jelas dari segi pelaksanaan hukuman sebat itu menunjukkan pesalah tidak mengalami kecederaan.
“Apa yang digembar-gemburkan dalam kes Kartika itu menimbulkan kebimbangan orang ramai, saya harap janganlah hanya fokus kepada satu kes yang belum dilaksanakan,” katanya kepada pemberita di sini hari ini.


Tiga pesalah wanita itu bersama empat lagi pesalah lelaki dihukum sebat mengikut Seksyen 23(2) Akta Kesalahan Jenayah Syariah Wilayah Persekutuan 1997 (Persetubuhan Haram) yang dijatuhkan Mahkamah Tinggi Syariah Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur antara Disember 2009 hingga Januari tahun ini.

Hishammuddin berkata, seorang daripada tiga pesalah wanita berkenaan dibebaskan pada Ahad lalu, pesalah kedua akan dibebaskan dalam tempoh beberapa hari lagi dan pesalah ketiga dibebaskan pada Jun nanti.

Hishammuddin berkata, wakil dari kementeriannya turut hadir semasa pelaksanaan hukuman dibuat bersama 13 orang lagi antaranya Pengarah Jabatan Agama Wilayah, Pegawai Jabatan Agama Wilayah dan wakil dari Bahagian Syariah Jabatan Peguam Negara serta wakil dari Jabatan Kemajuan Islam Malaysia (Jakim).
Berdasarkan temu bual dengan tiga pesalah wanita itu, beliau berkata didapati bahawa mereka insaf, reda dan bertaubat dengan hukuman yang diterima walaupun sebatan itu tidak mendatangkan kesan luka.

“Diharapkan isu itu tidak disalahertikan sehingga mencemarkan kesucian Islam. Hukuman itu adalah untuk mendidik dan memberi keinsafan agar mereka yang terlanjur dapat kembali ke pangkal jalan dan membina hidup baru yang lebih baik,” katanya.Pelaksanaan hukuman sebat mendapat liputan meluas sejak Kartika ditahan pihak berkuasa ketika minum arak di sebuah resort di Cherating, Pahang pada 11 Julai 2008.

Kartika yang mengaku bersalah kemudian didenda RM5,000 dan enam sebatan oleh Mahkamah Tinggi Syariah Kuantan. Bagaimanapun hukuman sebatan itu masih tertangguh sehingga kini.

Source - Bernama News Agency

KAJANG 18 Feb. -

"Kami reda disebat kerana di akhirat, hukuman sebenar nanti lebih berat dari hukuman di dunia," itulah luahan tiga wanita yang dihukum sebatan mengikut kaedah syarak pada 9 Februari lalu di Penjara Wanita Kajang, di sini hari ini.

Ketiga-tiga mereka melalui episod pengalaman yang sama iaitu melakukan persetubuhan haram sehingga melahirkan anak luar nikah.

Malah, ketiga-tiga wanita yang berusia antara 18 hingga pertengahan 20-an itu sanggup menerima hukuman atas keterlanjuran mereka di dunia ini apabila menyerah diri kepada Jabatan Agama Islam Wilayah Persekutuan (Jawi).

Berikutan itu juga, pasangan lelaki masing-masing turut menerima hukuman yang sama di Penjara Lelaki Kajang pada tarikh hukuman itu.

Menurut salah seorang daripada wanita itu yang dibebaskan pada 14 Februari lalu, hukuman sebat amat wajar dilaksanakan ke atas umat Islam yang telah melakukan dosa sepertinya supaya tidak terus hanyut dan bergelumang dengan dosa.

"Saya pernah dengar hukuman sebat ke atas penzina namun saya ingat pihak penguat kuasa akan beri denda sahaja dan tidak menyangka hukuman sebat itu benar-benar wujud.

"Saya terus bergelumang dengan dosa sehinggalah disahkan hamil dan sejak itu saya tidak melakukan zina lagi serta berjanji dengan pasangan akan mendirikan rumahtangga selepas melahirkan anak.

"Selepas selamat melahirkan anak yang kini berusia hampir setahun, saya dan pasangan menyerah diri kepada Jawi pada awal tahun ini," kata wanita berusia pertengahan 20-an ini yang dikenali sebagai 'Ayu' (bukan nama sebenar) ketika ditemui pemberita di sini hari ini.

Semalam, Menteri Dalam Negeri, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein mengesahkan tiga pesalah wanita disabitkan di bawah Seksyen 23(2) Akta Kesalahan Jenayah Syariah Wilayah Persekutuan 1997 (Persetubuhan Haram) yang dijatuhkan oleh Mahkamah Tinggi Syariah Wilayah Persekutuan Kuala Lumpur antara Disember 2009 hingga Januari lalu.

Ini merupakan pelaksanaan hukuman sebat syariah kali pertama ke atas kaum wanita di dilaksanakan di negara ini.

Selain itu, terdapat empat pesalah lelaki turut menjalani enam kali sebatan pada hari tersebut atas kesalahan yang sama.

Ayu yang dibebaskan daripada hukuman penjara dua bulan pada 14 Februari lalu, secara sukarela tampil hari ini untuk menceritakan sendiri detik-detik yang dilaluinya.

Pengakuan itu, menurutnya, semata-mata atas rasa tanggungjawab sebagai saudara sesama Islam agar tiada yang mencontohi kesalahan lalu yang dilakukannya.

Dia yang turut didenda sebanyak RM1,000 dengan empat kali sebatan mengakui tidak berasa sakit ketika disebat tetapi ia memberi kesan mendalam dalam kehidupannya untuk menjadi umat Islam yang lebih baik daripada sebelum ini.

"Pengalaman beberapa minit disebat itu benar-benar membuka mata dan hati saya bahawa tiada yang lain selain Allah, hidup dan mati saya kerana-Nya.

"Saya benar-benar bertaubat tidak mahu mengulangi dosa itu lagi dan benar-benar memohon pengampunan daripada-Nya," jelasnya.

Pengalaman sama turut dirasai oleh seorang lagi pesalah wanita yang ingin dikenali sebagai Aishah, 18.

Aishah menyerah diri kepada Jawi pada Disember lalu, selepas anak hasil persetubuhan haramnya meninggal dunia akibat tidak cukup bulan.

Wanita itu menerima hukuman penjara selama enam bulan, denda RM3,000 dan enam kali sebatan.

"Saya sedih membaca laporan akhbar berhubung pembuangan bayi yang semakin berleluasa. Ketika saya disahkan hamil, tidak terlintas di hati saya untuk membunuh janin yang tidak berdosa.

"Pada pendapat saya, orang yang membunuh bayi telah melakukan dua dosa besar dan semoga Allah memberi petunjuk kepada mereka," katanya.

Dalam pada itu, seorang lagi pesalah yang ingin dikenali sebagai Nur, berusia pertengahan 20-an menganggap dirinya insan terpilih kerana berpeluang mendapat hukuman di dunia atas keterlanjuran dirinya.

"Saya tidak menganggap apa yang saya lalui (disebat) sebagai satu hukuman tetapi bagi saya ia adalah peluang kedua untuk saya bertaubat dan kembali ke pangkal jalan.

"Bagi saya ini satu tanda kasih sayang Allah untuk saya lalui ujian seperti ini dan saya amat berharap orang ramai mengambil kisah ini sebagai pengajaran," jelasnya.

Nur yang sudah memiliki anak berusia 3 tahun hasil hubungan haram dengan kekasihnya mengakui mengambil masa yang panjang untuk membuat keputusan mendirikan rumah tangga kerana 'kehilangan' wali.

''Sudah enam tahun ayah saya menghilangkan diri tetapi semua dosa yang telah saya lakukan ini bukan disebabkan faktor itu. Ia berpunca daripada diri sendiri," jelasnya.

Nur menerima hukuman 30 hari penjara dan enam kali sebatan tanpa dikenakan sebarang denda.

You misrepresented your FACTS, sucker!

You're OBVIOUSLY having an agenda here, yer ignorant fool!

Do we care about the Saudis? We ain't Taliban, hey, the largest sleeping Buddha statue in South East Asia is smack dab at Kelantan, an Islamist state in Malaysia. No one bombed any Siamese Buddhist Wat (temples) smattering all across Kedah & Kelantan states, both of which under Islamist party in Malaysia. BTW, the Iranians are Shiites, we're Sunnis. Different like apples & oranges.

Muhammad Ibn ‘Umar told us: Muhammad Ibn ‘Abdullah, Az-Zuhri’s nephew, told us on authority of his father that he said: an amount of one milk drink was collected in a pot or glass, so Salim used to drink it every day, for five days. After this, he used to enter at her while her head is uncovered. This was permission from Messenger of Allah to Sahla bint Suhail.

Salim used to enter Sahla’s home when he was her adopted son, but when Islam forbade the adoption, a transitional phase was necessary because Salim was like a real son to Sahla and it was difficult for her to push him away as a stranger. Furthermore, Salim have lived there almost all his life and he desired Sahla’s as much as any son desired his own mother. This is the reason for this kind of permission of the Prophet and this permission is only for Suhail after considering her complicated position. One is indeed shocked to see how this kind gesture of the Messenger is given the most disgusting interpretation.



When Prophet Muhammad married Sawdah bint Zam'ah, she's a widow who’s neither young nor beautiful. The Messenger , after considering the hardship she face when she leave behind all she have for the sake of her faith, decide to marry her, not out of sexual desire, but out of his desire to provide for her during her hard time. But when the Islamic government was properly established, The prophet decide to divorce her because her need are no longer desperate and she no longer desire sex. But such is the honor of being a wife of the Prophet that Sawdah refuse it. Since she no longer desireable and desire, She willingly gave up her night in exchange for being the mother of believers, a status far exceed any pleasure this world has to offer.



I find it rather interesting that certain people have no understanding of historical practices in general and condemn behaviour not conforming to the times they live in as backwards. You are clearly an ignorant one of such ilk. Did you know that it was quite common to marry girls that had just attained puberty historically ? If you reply that Aishah was below that age then again we see your lack on knowledge - girls in hotter climates reach puberty earlier than those in colder climates. I know that this topic probably makes you think you actually know something and can use it to defame Islam , but curiously enough this point was never used by the medieval Christians against Islam...because they essentially practiced it themselves as well. Get of your high horse and try to educate yourself lest you look like an idiot. Prophet Muhammad didn't consummate the marriege until the time when Aishah have her first menstruation, which happen to be when she's 9 years old. Wether it is possible for a young girl to be a mother? please read this.
BBC NEWS UK



Long after Khadija’s death, The messenger still mention her regularly and often visit her relatives and present them with gifts. His love for long deceased Khadijah cause his other wives, especially Aishah to grow jealous. And it’s Khadijah who proposed to The Messenger, not the other way around. And when He lived with Khadijah, he never going around spending her wealth. He lived a modest life, never wear anything or eat anything more luxurious then what a Majority of arabs of the time wear and eat. With Khadijah wealth, he could’ve built a Luxurious dwelling, and yet we never see nor heard about Prophet Muhammad Grand Palace or at least a wealthy mansion worthy of his position as a head of Islamic State.

ps: One thing i learn about Christianity is that, when they're strict, they're too strict and when they are lenient, they are too lenient. excessive in both ways.

Where exactly?

I am presenting historical facts here. Let me reiterate, historically, your kind had been engaged in ruthless aggression against other communities, to name a few, the Persian, Indian, Coptic Egypt and Spain. Besides that, at the same time, there were bloodshed, treacheries and dirty conspiracies within your "glorious" monarchy or caliphates endlessly. Your kind were never superior to anybody and cut the crap of supremacist laws and religion here! We all know that There were the Jamal War, Siffin War, Nahrawan War, and many more others that you decapitate one another, killing each other like nothing.

Now, you want to teach me about salvation and elegance of your version of justice and laws that had devastated the world at one time? Before you bragged about your so called Golden Age, let me divulge to you an essential facts that most of your so called scientists were freethinkers such as Muhammad Ibn Zakariyya Ar-Razi, Ibnu Sina, Umar Khayyam, Abul A'la Al-Ma'ari, etc. Thatis why the later orthodox fanatic scholars such as Al-Ghazzali and Ibnu Taymiyya branded them as heretics and apostates

So, take your fake supremacist lies somewhere else!

When asked, "How many of your kind are there in the whole world?" We will receive unanimous answer, 1.5 billion! That include the Shias numbering 500,000,000 as well you dumb! Yes, you are not the Saudis or the Talibans, but these two governments practiced similar form of system, and many of your kind take pride of that. Of course you will not bombed the Buddhist statue in your country because you are not as extremist and fanatics as the Taliban. Remember the Hagia Sophia was a Byzantium Church before you converted that into your place of worship. How about the 4,000 churches destroyed by Omar Khattab throughout Arabia? You mean the Christian community there just vanished??

Moreover, You have plenty of sects with dozens of interpretations that antagonistic to each other, Sunnis, Wahhabis, Shias, Barelwi, Deobandis, Alawi, and many more. Which form will be applied? Do you think that the 500,000,000 Shias will be happy if the Sunnis numbering 1,000,000,000 took over? They will be perpetual bloodshed and murder and the end of civilization will be the result.

There is no goodness in your law. I suggest you lived in Afghanistan for 2 years and then lived in New Zealand for another two years to open your biased eyes that which one is more peaceful, clean, and environmentally better. One is a Syariah-based, the other one is secular-base. Take your choice.

Cut the crap of syariah better than secular law, will you! We do not need ancient 7th century laws for modern day application. It's 40 or 80 strokes? Can you tell me? Moreover, it has been proven that drinking in moderation is very good for health.

As for extra-marital sex, please explain to me the status of Mariyya Qibtiyya .... blablablablablablabla

Don't try to act superior with barbaric syariah. It's a disgrace to humanity to even acknowledge that guy as prophet let alone emulating his despicable way of life.