EDIT: Oh, it's Philip Deitiker/PrismKnight7. Ferget it then.

Did you know that Sabah used to be a part of a Philippine Territory? That could explain why eurasian frequency is the highest in Sabah since i heard that the Philippines has the highest eurasian people (with spanish breeding with, and conquering the country, etc). I dont know if this is true. Could you also explain the Philippine eurasian frequency? cuz its hard to decipher. Admittingly, I need your expertise to decipher these kind of datum, so you must be a genius! hehehehe!

Hey tard-face. If you wanna know why that picture's address contains the words Arang Asil, its because that girl mispelled "Orang Asli" which means aborigine.

BTW next time you feel like cooking some meat, try not to source them from the pet shop.

Concerning your picture of some Malaysian women http://www.iuj.ac.jp/news/Malaysian%20women.jpg
The three women in the middle are ugly because they have Chinese blood. The fifth one have too much aborigine blood.

Let this image serve as a warning to any pure Malay thinking about marrying ugly races. This is the fate that awaits their children.

I must regretfully say 2000 yrs of peaceful interactions with the Chinese has taken its toll on the purity of the Malay race. It is most unfortunate that Malay lands and China is geographically too close to one another.Had we been two thousand miles further apart, the frequency of caucasoid looking Malays would be much higher than the present 40%.

Anyway, its still not too late to stop more harm being done to our gene pool. The key issue now is damage control. If my advices are heeded, we can still prevent more mongoloid blood from contaminating our race. Heck, if the govt if serious enough we could even invite highly educated pure Malays from Indonesia and at the same time encourage our ethnic Chinese to emigrate.

Giving citizenship only to high quality Indonesians will not only increase our racial purity but raise our mean IQ as well. So far Malaysia's immigration policy has been idiotically doing the opposite by granting PR status mostly to Indonesians of aborigine stock.

In my previous post I have argued that most Indonesians are not of Malay stock but actually aborigines.

http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...ndpost&p=860963

If the govt keeps up with this self destructive policy, drastic actions must to be taken such as making those ugly permanent residents feel as unwelcomed as possible and ostracizing any pure malays who are stupid enough to marry them.


Sabah was part of Sulu and Brunei Sultanates.

According to a research,Philippine Y haplogroup Indo Aryan frequency roughly 7%.

http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2001_v68_p432.pdf

Flynn Effect makes the dubious assumption that the IQ of all nations in the world increase at the same rate. Thats just like saying :

"The Dutch mean height increased by 5 inches from 1950-2000 therefore other nations also grew at this rate."

The IQ of Malaysian Malays could have outgrown the world average for some reasons such as polygamy and drastic improvements in living standards.The British didn't experience any big leap in living standards for the past 40 yrs. Furthermore the introgression of black immigrant genes into British white population may even have resulted in the British IQ growing slower than Malaysian Malays. Hell, we could even have outgrown everyone else for no apparent reason like what the Singaporean Malays just did. Between 1980 and 1999 they increased their representation in Singaporean universities at the expense of ethnic Chinese and Indians.This could only mean their IQ grew at a faster rate than the other two.


http://www.mendaki.org.sg/content.jsp?cont...d=12&cont_id=92

Whats more remarkable is, those Singaporean Malays did not even experience any brain gain from immigration like the Singaporean Chinese and Indians did.

Singaporean Chinese and Indians raised their average IQ by admitting only the most qualified Chinese and Indian immigrants from China, India, Malaysia and Indonesia but those Singaporean Malays who are all original citizens still managed to keep up.

Its most likely that this kind of growth have taken place in Malaysian Malays too.

Plus, the score of 14 yr old Malaysians at TIMMS 2003 were comparable to Americans and British students.

http://timss.bc.edu/PDF/t03_download/T03_M_Chap1.pdf

Our slightly higher score of 508 even makes my Malay IQ estimate of 97 appear conservative.

Anyway, I really wish a highly respectable organisation would conduct an SPM test on ethnic Malays and announce the result right away instead of waiting a decade and then applying that stupid Flynn effect.

Its such a drag to be kept guessing all the time.


HAHAHA. Instead of proving the Koreans are as tall as you claimed, you pulled out an article by some g00k named l-Joo to argue Malays are only 5'6".

Wanna know why you are such a dork ? Coz you eat dogz.

Unlike you, I don't claim anything without solid evidence. However in this link below

http://www.kurabe.net/average_height/#asia

Malaysian women aged 20-49 is comparable in height to 17 yr old NEAsians. That means 17 yr old Malay girls may be taller than 17 yr old NEAsian girls.Which in turn means 20-25 yr old Malays might be taller than NEAsians of the same age group.

I seriously think the latest generation of Malay men average 5'8". Since the cutoff point of being short is 5'7", more than half of all young Malays can be classified as medium height or taller and keep in mind that over time our median height will only go higher.

A win over a small force sent to do some businesss with you ? What a joke!

I'm not sure what the hell you are talking about here but if you are referring to historical Malay-Chinese relations, I can tell you that once in a while when the Chinese misbehaved, we "brutalized" them just to remind them who's boss.

Bull$hit. Whether those armies were bigger or smaller,they still represented the financial and industrial resources of at least 2-8 million ppl in their European country.Most Malay states had only around 50 thousand ppl.

Im not suprised that the Indo Aryan frequency in Philippines is low. The malay ethnicity in the Philippines lean towards being mongoloid more.

so how does this compare to other asian countries? im quite curious..And is this Y Indo-Aryan haplogroup frequency exclusively european? (i mean, excluding persians, arab, etc?)

Lol you ignored like 95% of the stuff I typed because you have nothing to say.

[quote]Flynn Effect makes the dubious assumption that the IQ of all nations in the world increase at the same rate. Thats just like saying :

"The Dutch mean height increased by 5 inches from 1950-2000 therefore other nations also grew at this rate."[/quote]

IQ jumps if the country is overly starving however those school children who were tested were probably well fed. Most starving children wouldn’t even go to school during those times. They would rather work on farms or find food. Oh yeah and theres an IQ test in Singapore in which both malays and Chinese took the same test at the SAME TIME.

http://www.isteve.com/IQ_Table.htm

Look at the scores for Singapore.

Chinese 107.5
Malay 92

Despite the fact that they live in the same city the Malays are still out performed by the Chinese. What do you have to say for that? Malays do not have stratospheric IQ. Also even without drastic increases in living they still average 2 points in fact its pretty much true for the whole world except for those that are facing severe starvation.


[quote]Whats more remarkable is, those Singaporean Malays did not even experience any brain gain from immigration like the Singaporean Chinese and Indians did.[/quote]

Whats so incredible about that statistic, it clearly shows that Malays have the LOWEST percentage?

In 1980 Malays were at 0.5%
1990 = 2.9(2.4 point increase)
1999= 4.2(1.3 point increase)

vs. the Chinese

1980=5.9
1990=17(11.1 point increase)
1999=25(8 point increase)

Which means the gap is growing actually rather than shrinking. So much for the superbly rising Malaysian IQ myth.


[quote]Singaporean Chinese and Indians raised their average IQ by admitting only the most qualified Chinese and Indian immigrants from China, India, Malaysia and Indonesia but those Singaporean Malays who are all original citizens still managed to keep up.[/quote]

Where the hell do you get your information on this? Most of the Chinese who came to Singapore did so to flee the Japanese. They didn’t all come to Singapore as professors you moron. And the Malaysian rate of acceptance is hardly impressive vs. the Indians and Chinese who beat you by a really large margin.

Oh yeah and you really really screwed up by bringing up the TIMMS 2003 test. You see the Malaysian population goes like this


Malay 50.4%, Chinese 23.7%, Bumiputera 11%, Indian 7.1%, others 7.8%

And since the Chinese and Indians has shown and proven that they score above the ethnic malays that means the actual score for malays is MUCH LOWER due to the fact that the Chinese and Indians help to raise the Malaysian average. Whats more is that we Asians happen to favor visuospatial(math) IQ over verbal. While whites favor verbal over visuospatial. What that means is that Asians score higher on math yet a little lower on verbal than whites. Since white Americans are much stronger on verbal than math its not surprising that math scores arnt so high in america(that an the fact that African Americans for example average 85 while favoring verbal as well). In all sense though Malaysian math scores would probably be under 450.

[quote]Wanna know why you are such a dork ? Coz you eat dogz.[/quote]

Wow was that suppose to hurt my feelings because it seriously did nothing at all. Furthermore please give a link that tells the height of Malaysian males then we’ll talk. Other than that those dirty Chinese you hate so much are superior to you at almost everything.


[quote]A win over a small force sent to do some businesss with you ? What a joke!

They were armed with heavy weaponry and korea still won. Unlike Malaysia who signed a treaty lol. And besides we have other military victories in our history against much larger foes. What about your country? Lets see, a few centuries of colonization and lossess, a few centuries of exploitation. Lol.

[quote]I'm not sure what the hell you are talking about here but if you are referring to historical Malay-Chinese relations, I can tell you that once in a while when the Chinese misbehaved, we "brutalized" them just to remind them who's boss.[/quote]

Actually this brutalization is a sign of primitiveness. Cant control your own economy, cant outsmart them? Cant do anything better than the Chinese. Well I guess the only solution is to barbarically attack a more successful group of people out of shear jealousy.

[quote]Bull$hit. Whether those armies were bigger or smaller,they still represented the financial and industrial resources of at least 2-8 million ppl in their European country.Most Malay states had only around 50 thousand ppl.[/quote]

So your telling me that Europe sent millions of men to invade Malaysia? Bull $hit they sent a small force and nearly annihilated the entire Malaysian warriors until Malaysia signed a treaty and agreed to become colonized by a foreign power. So much for brave and powerful warriors.

Racism is not just bad, it is illogical and an act of ignorance. Racism to counter racism is one of the most idiotic things I've ever come across.

Why? Because racism excludes factors which should be taken into the consideration of a group's performance. Unfortunately, the outcome would always favour one side. This certainly does not make the other party inherently inferior!

LOL, inferior = inferior, caucasoid or not. The "purest" malays happen to reside on Taiwan island and they contributed nothing worthwhile. They're only good as servants.

Seriously, malays should stick to agriculture and their fruit trees instead of doing business, which they're obviously not good at.

By the way, most of the indonesians i've seen (I live in the Netherlands, which is flooded by indonesians) indeed look like this: http://www.class.csupomona.edu/colorfulfla...rang%20Asil.jpg Does that mean most indonesians are acutally mongrelized malays?

never ceased to amaze me how a jack @$$ like you is still here, didnt your comrades already left AF?

Where do u live in the Netherlands? I think you've seen Molukkers, and they don't look like malaysian.
BTW, is it me or there are a lot of racists on this thread? -

Not really. Roughly 90% of Malaysian Indians are from low castes.Thats why their involvement in the engineering sector and their equity holdings are both proportionally lower than ethnic Malays. This is also why their mathematics score can be assumed to be much lower than Malays. I think the 2 million Indians and 3 million tribal aborigines collectively score lower than Norwegians(461) or even Lebanese(433) while the 6 million Chinese cannot score higher than the Japanese(570).

Both the high and low extremes of the Malaysian population have 5 or 6 million ppl each.
These two extremes cancel each other out leaving the 12 million Malays in the middle which means the national result of 508 is more or less the intermediate (ethnic Malay) score.


Since your mongoloid analytical skills has proven to be more pathetic than I first thought, let me help you analize this data.

Between 1980-1999 the proportion of Malays in their age group who managed to earn a place in a public university increased more than 8 times.(4.2/0.5)=8.4
while the Chinese only increased by over 4 times. (25/5.9)=4.24

Man are you as retarded as you look ? Why the hell would the Chinese flee from the Japanese in the 1970s, 80s and 90s ?!!!

As I said earlier, those results have been tampered.Singapore Malay IQ is at least 96.

I ignored some of your "stuff" because you were not saying anything new. I have refuted all your "stuff" in pages 4 and 5. Read those replies again. Don't expect me to post the same rebuttals over and over again in the same thread. Its just not my style.

No, Indo Aryan haplogroups are not exclusively European.

You can make the comparisons yourself:

Haplogroup F (first column) and haplogroup R (last column) are from Indo Aryans.
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/AJHG/jour...2024145770Guest


Haplogroups 1,2,3 and 9 in this table are Indo Aryans
http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full/160/1/289/T1


Columns B and D in table 1 are Indo Aryan lineages.
http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2001_v68_p432.pdf

Duh ! It means the overwhelming majority of Indonesians are not Malays but aborigines!

I must disagree.:genius: I think Malays should stick to raiding Chinese vice dens and deporting their mangy @$$ back to China.
















HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA...............

very interesting Iron! But i still cant figure out how you calculated the 7% eurasian frequency..whereas in my own calculation, there are 3.6% (philippines), 3.9% (malaysia), 2.8% (indonesia) indo-aryan frequency (on stanford chart alone). Can you tell how did you get your results?

No you didnt, all you did was posting some weak rebuttals like "20-24" year old malay girl MIGHT be taller than "20-24" yr old NE Asians because... Singapore MIGHT have experienced brain drain from Chinese/Indian immigrants...

You're constantly assuming things and you fail to back up your claims with solid evidence. You have no credibility whatsoever.

Who are you to say Singaporean malay IQ should at least be 96? You're not holding a PhD like the authors of that book nor did you do intensive research on this fied, hell I doubt that you've even visited Singapore. Bottom line, you're not even close to being qualified to say such a thing.

Btw. I love how you contradicted yourself by posting this picture:
http://www.mendaki.org.sg/content_images/mmprogress_fig5.gif

I think this (along with the Lynn studies) clearly shows how intelligent ethnic malay really are. Particularly the low percentage of 4.2% malay vs. 10% Indian is very remarkable, both are minorities, but Indians clearly outsmart the malays.

I still think it's better for you to stick to agriculture and your primitive customs like "brutalizing people", instead of attempting to do business.

Re-read my post, I wasn't talking about malaysians, but about malays in general. Yes, I know most of the indonesians here are molukkers, but they still have the distinctive malays look (wether they're aboriginal or not). This shouldn't be suprising, because all malays from Taiwan to indonesia share common ancestry. Some malays just happen to have some more aboriginal, indo-aryan or whatever blood.

To Iron Malayan: you're a fu-king joke, i've read your and nashuranta's (whatever) posts. You two actually seem to take pride in being indo-aryan instead of malay. It's fu-king hilarious. It wouldn't suprise me if you were one of them: http://www.skinheadz.com/docs/history/honorary.html

Excuse me, if you know they're Molukkers why you use "most indonesians"? Javanese is the majority in Indonesia. Molukkers make up only a small part of Indonesian population.

How can you get 3.9% for Malaysia when there is no figures for Malaysia ?



You need to add all those "European" samples excluded by the researcher.



The explanation given by the researcher for leaving them out was not convincing at all.

Since your mongolioid reasoning ability turned out to be slower than I thought, let me spell out what my argument meant.

Singaporean Malays suffered a brain drain to Malaysia during separation in 1965 and they have also been lumped together with aborigines from Java and Bawean Island which together make up 27% of this combined Singaporean "Malay" ethnic group.

Meanwhile the ethnic Chinese and Indians have experienced tremendous brain gain since independence. For the past 30 or 40 yrs , only highly educated Indians from India were admitted into Singapore as new citizens; and only highly educated Chinese immigrants from Malaysia,Indonesia and China were given Singaporean citizenship. This policy has the effect of artificially increasing the IQ of both ethnic Chinese and Indians but not the Malays.

Despite all the disadvantages described above, Singapore Malays still were able to make more academic progress than the other two ethnic groups.


Idiot !! It was Richard Lynn who said Singapore Malay IQ was 96. I gave a link to prove it somewhere in pg 4 or 5. Find it your damn self ! I already told you to read and understand all my posts before you reply ! FFfu-king retard !!


Unlike some morons here who try to pass their claims as facts, I clearly state from the beginning what I can prove and what I cannot.

I use the word "might" if I strongly believe the possibility but cannot prove it. Due to insufficient sources,sometimes I am forced to make my own estimates based on whatever information is available at the time. I'm not stupid enough to wait and hope for someone to conduct all those tests and measurements. That would take forever.

From the reasonings I provide, its up to every reader to accept it or not; and it really doesn't matter if ppl like you agree or disagree. You mongoloids are nothing to me.

Nope. The only Indo Aryans and Austronesians I'm proud of are those that gave rise to the true Malay race;


Hmm.Interesting letter.How about fabricating similar letters from Jewish and black Nazis as well ?



Like we give a damn what your g00k @$$ thinks.

You hideous chinazis better stick to your "advanced" Chinese customs like binding your mama's feet.

LOL, again you prove to be even more retarded than I initially thought. Let me explain it to you again:

In 1980 malays started with a poor 0.5%, they managed to raise the percentage to 4.2% over time, which is STILL very low considering the fact that it's easier to to raise go from 0.5% to 4.2% (a mere 3.7% increase) vs. of 5.9% to 25% (19% increase). This means Chinese made more adademic process than any other group.



It's actually quite clear if you take a good look at the picture. At the first look you'd immediately notice that the pink line (Chinese) is the steepest (=more academic progress), while the darkblue line (malay) is the flattest.

Your calculation of:


Is NOT valid, since the the numbers indicated in those pictures are already percentages. You're just trying to twist facts by calculating the percentage of the percentage, LOL!



You're bull$hitting, I've read Singapore's immigration policy. Nowhere does it say thay only highly educated people are allowed to stay. It does say people (of all ethnicities, not only Indians and Chinese) with a high education are encouraged to stay, but nowhere does it say that high education is required in order to get citizenship.
About the "malay brain drain" to malaysia: where's your proof? Your claims are worthless about proof.



Quoted directly from the source (http://www.isteve.com/IQ_Table.htm)

Singapore-malay: 90.5
Singapore-malay (after correction): 92

Nowhere does it say 96, idiot.

Who are you trying to fool anyway? It was the Chinese who turned Singapore into a rich trading port ; Singapore certainly wouldn't have been so advanced if it were for the lazy low class and unintelligent malays like you.

Im not Phillip Deitiker, you must be confused because im also in that yahoo club. My screenname there is rick_martinez77.

How can you get 3.9% for Malaysia when there is no figures for Malaysia?

[B]Well, I calculated the samples taken from Places that belong to Malaysia and places that belong to Indonesia. (e.g Kotakinabalu=Malaysia, Banjarmasin=Indonesia). But I also realized that my calculation is wrong. The Eurasian frequency (in Stanford data only) is actually 3.6% in the Philippines, 2% Malaysia, 0.8% Indoneisa since you need to divide the average by how many group samples it was taken.

Unlike you im smart enough to realize that the whole point of racists is to assert superiority or hate over another group. Nothing crushes a racists spirit more than the realization that his group happens to be inferior if applied in racist terms.
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That’s funny cause Malaysian Indians who are “SUPPOSEDLY” from the low caste happen to outscore ethnic malays. Whats up with that? I guess the average malay cant even compete with a low caste Indian. Lol good job at embarrassing your own country. That same picture statistic you show, shows that Indians are higher up than malays. And do you have any proof for any of the crap you’ve just said rather than saying “I THINK”? Fact is that Norwegians are white and whites favor verbal iq over math iq. Malays however favor math IQ. And even then they still average low low low visuospatial IQ.



Got any proof of that? Sorry but you sound like a retarded old white nationalist. Just replace white with malay. Let me make my point clearly again

Malaysias population works like this

Malay 50.4%, Chinese 23.7%, Bumiputera 11%, Indian 7.1%, others 7.8%

The Chinese and the Indians both score higher on tests, average better incomes and basically live better. They also make a large portion of your population. They increase the score average of your country. You ethnic malays lower the score average. Therefore you reach a score of 508 thanks to ethnic Chinese and Indians. The Chinese you hate so much happen to help your country you dumbass. Now im a reasonable man so I perfectly understand why you cant seem to grasp this fact. You have low IQ after all.



You are such a dumbass I cant even imagine how its possible for you to operate on the internet. Since Emperor has written pretty much the same thing that I would have wrote let me quote him again-

Emperor:“LOL, again you prove to be even more retarded than I initially thought. Let me explain it to you again:

In 1980 malays started with a poor 0.5%, they managed to raise the percentage to 4.2% over time, which is STILL very low considering the fact that it's easier to to raise go from 0.5% to 4.2% (a mere 3.7% increase) vs. of 5.9% to 25% (19% increase). This means Chinese made more adademic process than any other group.

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It's actually quite clear if you take a good look at the picture. At the first look you'd immediately notice that the pink line (Chinese) is the steepest (=more academic progress), while the darkblue line (malay) is the flattest.”.



Are you that retarded? A lot of them came to south east asia during japans invasion attempt. I never said anything about all of them coming during this time. Singapore is also richer than the mainland GDP per capita wise so it tends to attract many Chinese business men.



Tampered by who? Stalin? Santa Clause? Pee Wee Herman? Please tell me why you think its tampered.



No you did not, you didn’t rebut any of the stuff ive written so far. Anyone who can read knows this. Unfortunately your too much of a idiot to realize this.


Malaysias IQ of 92 is actually lower for ethnic malays since the han Chinese and Indians raise the IQ average. Your IQ is probably the same as those Indonesians. 89.

If you consider the composition of the race in Singapore like this:
Chinese 76.8%, Malay 13.9%, Indian 7.9%, other 1.4% (2000 census)

The chinese constitute 76.8% of the population but they could only manage for position 25% in university meanwhile Malay go to 4.2% position and Indian go to 10%.
The percentage composition compare to population chinese are under perform. Indian in this case perform well, hence it proof also the flawness of IQ supremacy supporter like you.
If India IQ just 81 why they could outperform chinese?




Highly unlikely, if opressed malay minority in Singapore could manage to go to 92, Malay in Malaysia who are the ruler and the boss they might be higher than 92.

Remember minority Korean in Japan score much lower compare to Korean in Korea who are the ruler of their own country.

Korean in Japan

When you compare the lower IQ results of other minorities around the world, many of whom are of the same genetic stock.

Perhaps the most dramatic example is the Northern Irish. Even though they come from the same ethnic group, Catholics (the discriminated minority) score 15 points lower on IQ tests than Protestants.

In the U.S., both Korean and Japanese students score above average in IQ tests; many scholars agree that, genetically, they are about as close as two ethnic groups can get. But the Korean minority living in Japan scores much lower on IQ tests than the Japanese.

malay situation between malay in Singapore and malay in Malaysia will be the same case like that. Flynn already revised that Malaysian malay IQ is at least 96.

Indonesian IQ datas very unreliable:
first:
They were taken in 1959 while Indoensian still under civil war and just 10 years brutal war against Dutch.

second:
No adjustment of after war condition in which several european countires got this adjustment

third:
Samples was taken among ethnic Sundanese which the less significance influence ethnics in Indonesian society.

Suka hati kau orang la..My parents are Malay..my best friends are chinese..my teachers are Indian..My security guards are Sikh..I dont care..black..white..yellow..purple..pink color..as long as I am malaysian..and I am very gratefull coz I woke up after sleep..I still can breath..AND for Ur OWN knowledge...DUNIA ini hanya sementara...HEREAFTER adalah selamanya..in between that..alam barzakh..(long waiting before Armaggedon..)..bekalkan diri anda untuk kehidupan abadi DISANA...Sisi tuhan x kira bangsa...atau taraf..tetapi dikira amal ibadat..sedekah jariah..semasa didunia.Remember that..1 hari diiakhirat..sama dengan seribu hari didunia.

LOL moron, population is not relevant because this is about percentages (Which can be compared to eachother directly). Do you even know what percentages are?
Seems like you have no math skills whatsoever. Your IQ is probably even lower than the indonesian average.



LOL, where did you get this from? Im guessing you pulled this out of your primitive malay @$$ like all the other things you've said. Have you ever been to Singapore? I guess not, because malays and all the other minorities are not discriminated against, in fact most of them live in harmony.



This situation is not comparable to that of Singapore. Remember than ethnic Koreans are (still) discriminated in Japan, while ethnic malay in Singapore are not.

Interesting article I found (it refutes most of Iron malayan and nasturanta's claims):

http://countrystudies.us/singapore/17.htm

"The Malays
Singapore Table of Contents

The Malay made up 15 percent of Singapore's population and were, like the Chinese and the Indians, descendants of immigrants. They or their ancestors came from peninsular Malaya, Sumatra, Java, and the other islands of the Indonesian archipelago. Throughout the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, Java was much more densely populated than peninsular Malaya, and its people had a significantly lower standard of living. From the mid-nineteenth century to the period just after World War II, many Javanese migrated to Singapore, attracted both by urban wages offering a higher living standard and by freedom from the constraints of their native villages, where they often occupied the lower reaches of the economic and social order. Singapore Malay community leaders estimated that some 50 to 60 percent of the community traced their origins to Java and an additional 15 to 20 percent to Bawean Island, in the Java Sea north of the city of Surabaya. The 1931 census recorded the occupations of 18 percent of the Malays as fishermen and 12 percent as farmers; the remaining 70 percent held jobs in the urban cash economy, either in public service or as gardeners, drivers, or small-scale artisans and retailers. The British colonialists had considered the Malays as simple farmers and fishermen with strong religious faith and a "racial" tendency toward loyalty and deference; they preferentially recruited the Malays to the police, the armed forces, and unskilled positions in the public service. In 1961 more than half of Singapore's Malays depended on employment in the public sector. Although the colonial stereotype of the Malays as rural people with rural attitudes persisted, Singapore's Malay residents were for the most part no more rural than any other residents. Malay identity was couched in religious terms, with Malay being taken almost as a synonym for Muslim, and most Malay organizations taking a religious form.

After independence, the government regarded the Malay preponderance in the police and armed forces as disproportionate and a potential threat to security and acted to make the security forces more representative of the society as a whole, which meant in practice replacing Malays by Chinese. The government's drive to break up ethnic enclaves and resettle kampong dwellers in Housing and Development Board apartment complexes had a great effect on the Malays. Evidence of the convergence of Malay patterns of living with those of the rest of the population was provided by population statistics, which showed the Malay birth and death rates, originally quite high, to be declining. In the 1940s, Malay women had married early, had many children, and were divorced and remarried with great frequency. By the 1980s, Malays were marrying later, bearing fewer children (2.05 per woman for mid-1986 to mid- 1987), and divorcing less frequently. By the 1980s, a large proportion of Malay women were working outside the home, which was a major social change. Many young women in their late teens and early to mid-twenties were employed in factories operated by multinational corporations, which, unlike the small-scale Chinese shops and workshops that had dominated the economy into the 1960s, paid no attention to ethnicity in hiring. Even Malay fishing communities on the offshore islands, which appeared to preserve the traditional way of life, were in the 1980s losing population as young people moved to Singapore Island, attracted by urban life and unskilled jobs that offered higher and more reliable incomes than fishing.

Although very much a part of Singapore's modernizing society, the Malays conspicuously occupied the bottom rungs of that society; their position illustrated a correlation between ethnicity and class that presented a major potential threat to social stability. With the lowest level of educational attainment of any ethnic group, the Malays were concentrated at the low end of the occupational hierarchy and had average earnings that were 70 percent of those of Chinese. Malays had a higher crime rate than other groups and in 1987 accounted for 47 percent of the heroin addicts arrested. The 1980 census showed that 86 percent of the Malay work force was in the clerical, service, and production sector; 45 percent of all employed Malays worked on assembly lines, largely in foreign-owned electronics factories. Only 8 percent of all professional and technical workers (including schoolteachers), and 2 percent of all administrative and managerial personnel were Malays. Malays dropped out of the competitive school system in large numbers, and those who continued past primary school were concentrated in vocational education programs. In 1980 they made up only 1.5 percent of all university graduates and 2.5 percent of students enrolled in higher education.

In sharp contrast to neighboring Malaysia with its policies of affirmative action for the Malay majority, Singapore's government insisted that no ethnic group would receive special treatment and that all citizens had equal rights and equal opportunities. The potential threat, however, posed by the overlap between Malay ethnicity and low educational achievement and occupational status, was clear. Demonstrating the Singaporean propensity for discussing social affairs in terms of "race," both government spokesmen and Malay intellectuals tended to attribute the Malays' economic position and educational performance to something inherent in the Malay personality or culture, or to their supposed "rural" attitudes. The ways in which lower income and ill-educated Malays resembled or differed from the very many lower income and ill- educated Chinese, who had very different cultural backgrounds, were not addressed.

In 1982 the prime minister defined Malays' educational difficulties as a national problem and so justified government action to improve their educational performance. The colonial government had provided free but minimal education, in the Malay language, to Malays but not to Chinese or Indians, on the grounds that the Chinese and Indian residents of Singapore, even those born there, were sojourners. In the colonial period most English- language schools were run by churches or missionaries, and many Malays avoided them for fear of Christian proselytization. Although after independence schooling in Singapore was not free (fees were generally low, but the government felt that people would not value education if they did not pay something for it), Malays continued to receive free primary education. In 1960 that benefit was extended to secondary and higher education, although the free schooling was offered only to those the government defined as Malay, which excluded immigrant Indonesians whom the Malays regarded as part of their community. Throughout the 1960s and most of the 1970s, most Malay children continued to attend schools that taught only in Malay, or, if they taught English at all, did so quite poorly. Opportunities for secondary and higher education in the Malay language were very limited. Although many Malays were employed in the public service or as drivers or servants for foreign employers, in almost all cases the language used at work was the grammatically and lexically simplified tongue called Bazaar Malay.

Throughout the 1970s, relatively few Malays knew English, a language that became progressively more necessary for high-paying professional and technical jobs. Substantial numbers of the Chinese knew no more English than the Malays, but they found employment in the extensive sector of Chinese commerce and small-scale industry where hiring demanded command of a Chinese regional language and personal recommendation. The former Malay economic niche in the military and police forces was eliminated in the late 1960s and 1970s, and the large number of Malays who had been employed by the British armed forces at British naval and other military facilities lost those secure and well-paying positions when the British withdrew from Singapore from 1970 to 1975. Such factors as poor command of English, limited availability of secondary and postsecondary education in Malay, and the loss of public-sector jobs accounted for much of the low economic position of the Malay community in 1980.

In 1981 Malay community leaders, alarmed by the results of the 1980 census that demonstrated the concentration of Malays in the lower reaches of the occupational hierarchy, formed a foundation called Mendaki, an acronym for Majlis Pendidikan Anak-anak Islam (Council for the Education of Muslim Children). Mendaki (ascent in Malay), devoted itself to providing remedial tuition classes for Malay children in primary and secondary school, offering scholarships for living expenses and loans for higher education, attempting to encourage parents to take a more active role in their children's education, and holding public ceremonies to honor Malay students who excelled in examinations or graduated from academic secondary schools or universities. Government support for Mendaki took the form of financing the organization through a special voluntary checkoff on the monthly contribution of Muslim workers to the Central Provident Fund, and through unspecified other public donations.

Throughout the 1980s, both the number of Malay students in selective secondary schools and institutions of higher education and the proportion of Malays passing and scoring well on standardized examinations slowly increased. As with the changes in birth rates, it was difficult to separate the effects of such government-sponsored programs as those of Mendaki from other factors, including increased female participation in the work force, residence in apartment complexes rather than kampong housing, exposure to television and radio, smaller family size, and better teaching in the schools.

The use of a voluntary checkoff on the monthly Central Provident Fund contribution as a means of raising Malay educational funds was characteristic of Singapore in the 1980s. Malays, like other Singaporeans, were assumed to have regular employment and salaries, and their distinctive Malay and Muslim concerns were efficiently and equitably addressed through a computerized government program.

More about the Ethnic Categories of Singapore.

Singapore Table of Contents

Source: U.S. Library of Congress"

You Idiot rat a$$, percentage could go to any number comparing to any others number. You do not know any math, stop your bul$hit.

The percentage of student given by Iron Malayan entering university do not explain those persentage goes to population of each ethnics or thos percentage is simply percentage of students accepting into university.

You just good selling kwe-tiau and coolie worker for your master malay.

Whatever

No. I calculated how many times the percentages increased. You are either too dumb to understand or you pretend not to understand. Either way, I win.



I don't care what singapore's immigration policy says. They will always select the best immigrants they could get and only chinese and indians are desparate enough to live in that miserably crowded island. Highly qualified Malays who work in singapore have no intention of staying permanently.Thats why singaporean Malays did not experience a brain gain like singaporean chinese and indians.

If singapore is so advanced why the hell are they inferior to Malaysia ?!!
Despite admitting all the highest IQ chinese and indian immigrants they could get, they are still no match for Malaysian Malays.All the cutting edge technologies created in SEAsia are still only created by ethnic Malays.
I have already proven that the English with average IQ of 100 is still technologically superior to the Japanese who average 110.
Similarly, Malaysian Malays with mean IQ of 97 will always remain technologically superior to singaporean chinese who's average is 110.

What are you stupid ? The chart only applies to singapore !

and the only reason singapore indians have higher Iq than singaporean Malays is because of the highly selective immigration policy of the singapore govt.

These are the IQs of singaporeans:

singapore chinese=110 (only because of highly selective immigration)
http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/Peopl...-iq-table2.html

singapore Malays=96 (despite zero immigration)
http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/Peopl...-iq-table6.html

singapoe indians=?? (Maybe 100 but also only because of selective immigrations from india)

Malaysian indian IQ is far below ethnic Malays because there was no significant indian immigration into Malaysia !

Do you have any proof for any of the crap you’ve just said rather than saying "FACT IS" ?

I said it once and I'm gonna say it again. Malaysian indians' academic and economic attainment are much much lower than ethnic Malays. That means they decrease the average mathematics score of Malaysia by a big margin.

Huh. Malaysia would have been lucky to have Stalin or Pee Wee conducting IQ test on us. Even Santa Clause (whatever that is) would be more credible than somebody named Chaim. Do you know how Jewish his name sounds ? and do you know how much Jews hate Muslim Malays ?


DUH! I stamped Malay superiority over your lousy mongoloid @$$ and this is all you can say.

No, you're just trying to distort the facts by bringing up totally irrelavant calculations. Your calculation of how many times the percentages increased does NOT equal academic progress.
Overall malays in fact made the LEAST academic progress of all ethnic groups: 3.8% in 19 (!) years. Just like I've said, it's clearly visible by just taking a quick look at the graph; the malay line is the flattest (how flatter how less academic progress). Your ignorance concerning the plain simple math rules just show how retarded you are.

By the way, this quote (from the US library of Congress) shows how bad the educational problems are among the ethnic malay:

"In 1982 the prime minister defined Malays' educational difficulties as a national problem and so justified government action to improve their educational performance"

Ironically malays STILL underperform, despite the government actions to improve their educational performance.



Lol, inferior to malaysia? In what aspect? Remember, Singapore is just a small island (city) which is in NO way comparable to an entire country (malaysia). But I can tell you Singapore is still superior in many aspects; their GDP per capita for example is among the highest in Asia.

What technologies did the ethnic malay create? I've never seen/heard anything worthwhile come from malaysia. But I've seen many advanced technology come from East-Asian countries (Japan, Taiwan, S. Korea and China).



First you say you don't know anything about SIngapore's immigration policy and now you're saying they only allow educated Chinese/Indians? That's just hilarious, you obviously have no clue what you're talking about. BTW, you yet have to prove ethnic Chinese/Indians are admitted only because of their high IQ/academic backgroud. Your claims are worthless without any proof.



Doubtful. Technogical progress in malaysia is likely due to more succesfull immigrants like the Indians, East-Asians or even westerners. Walk around in Kuala Lumpur and you'll see Chinese and Western business and influence everywhere.

I think this gives are good illustration about how malays really are.

Occupation of the bottom rung of the society:
"Although very much a part of Singapore's modernizing society, the Malays conspicuously occupied the bottom rungs of that society"

Low educational attainment:
"With the lowest level of educational attainment of any ethnic group (...)"

High crime rate:
"Malays had a higher crime rate than other groups and in 1987 accounted for 47 percent of the heroin addicts arrested"

Combined with the relatively low iq, ethnic malays are unsuccesfull wherever they go to. You're so called malay "superiority" is a laugh.

Nusantara- You idiot, the Koreans in japan cannot be compared to the malays in Singapore.


-For example during the time those IQ tests were taken and probably even today It was nearly impossible for Koreans to enter Japanese national universities or get proper educations. They also were payed less.
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-Its nearly impossible for them to get good jobs and in fact its natural for Koreans to receive the lowest paying jobs.

“Private firms often refuse to employ Koreans because of ethnic discriminatio n. Koreans are also excluded from holding civil service positions because such positions require Japanese nationality. Although in recent years employment dis crimination has lessened somewhat in the wake of movements against discriminatio n, historically, most Koreans have been limited to low-level occupations like da y-laborers, or self-service jobs such as pachineseo (pinball) parlor managers, Kor ean barbecue house proprietors, scrap collectors, and small family subcontractor s. “

“Lee advanced to a private high school that did not deal with the Korean issu e. Completely disappointed, he resumed the use of his pass name "Takayasu Keisa i" and concealed his Korean identity from friends. When he graduated from high school in 1972, his teacher refused to help him find a job. Graduating without any job prospects, Lee was inevitably forced to support himself with part-time w ork. “
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-They have no rights or saying in the government.No voting power no nothing.
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-For most of history Koreans wernt even allowed to have schools in japan. Even today with the small number of Korean schools in japan, Japanese universities still do not recognize them as real schools therefore its harder- nearly impossible for Koreans to get decent university education. I don’t know about today though.

“Some Korean students attend ethnic schools. Most of these schools are spons ored by Soren (Chongryun, the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan) which backs the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. The Education Ministry, however, does not officially recognize these schools. Consequently, in principl e, graduates of ethnic high schools cannot take the Japanese college entrance ex amination. Nor do education authorities recognize graduation or academic record s from these schools”

http://www.isop.ucla.edu/eas/newsfile/kory...outhdiscrim.htm
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-Koreans in japan frequently change there name to avoid discrimination.


http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/inscr/mar/assessm...p?groupId=74003

Koreans in Japan face minor demographic disadvantages (DEMSTR00 = 2) due to a slight decline in caloric intake and deteriorating health conditions in comparison to the Japanese population. Politically the Koreans face severe exclusionary policies (POLDIS00 = 4). The Japanese government refuses to allow the group to gain citizenship, and as a result they face restrictions in legal matters, they cannot vote (although there are laws being considered which would allow for the Koreans to vote in local elections) and the group is denied positions within the government, civil service, police force and the military. Economically the group has been, and continues to be neglected (ECDIS00 = 3). Historically the Korean community has been forced to accept the lowest paying jobs, and there is considerable discrimination in hiring practices. As a result the Koreans are marginalized in the Japanese economy. Culturally, the group also faces serious restrictions. As with political matters, the fact that they are not citizens is the major cause of these restrictions. The Korean language is not recognized as an official language and therefore cannot be used to publish official materials. Korean wedding ceremonies are not recognized, and some Korean cultural events are also not acknowledged. While the group does not endure any overt governmental repression, there have been reports of ethnically motivated attacks against Koreans, particularly Korean schoolgirls who wear traditional Korean outfits (COMCON00 = 3). Some of the more serious attacks have led to fatalities.


The malays in Singapore actually have it easy and the government does not try to discriminate or give disadvantages like they do in japan. The failure of the malays in Singapore happen to be their own fault. The Japanese

Although things are getting much better in japan recently but that still doesn’t change the fact that they were heavily discriminated when those tests were given.

[quote]You Idiot rat a$$, percentage could go to any number comparing to any others number. You do not know any math, stop your bul$hit.

The percentage of student given by Iron Malayan entering university do not explain those persentage goes to population of each ethnics or thos percentage is simply percentage of students accepting into university.

You just good selling kwe-tiau and coolie worker for your master malay.[/quote]

YOU IDIOT go look at the stats. That does not represent the total number of students who go to those universities. it’s the number of people ADMITTED. Look carefully at the words “ADMITTED”.

Population is irrelevant here. Lets say the Chinese own 98% percent of the population and total 9,800,000 while Malays constitute 2% of the population and represents 200,000 people. That means that if 25% of Chinese are admitted then 24,500,000 Chinese are admitted. If 4.2% of malays are admitted then that means 8400 malays were admitted. Population is irrelevant, its all about population you dumbass.

YOU SUCK AT MATH.
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[quote]No. I calculated how many times the percentages increased. You are either too dumb to understand or you pretend not to understand. Either way, I win[/quote]

Wrong, Emperor won your just too stupid to understand or calculate properly.

[quote]I don't care what singapore's immigration policy says. They will always select the best immigrants they could get and only chinese and indians are desparate enough to live in that miserably crowded island. Highly qualified Malays who work in singapore have no intention of staying permanently.Thats why singaporean Malays did not experience a brain gain like singaporean chinese and indians.[/quote]

Give evidence then rather than claiming a bunch of BS. Theres no such thing as brain gain in this case. Face it your race is in fact inferior. Even if there is a brain gain(which there isn’t) the Chinese back in China still average a MUCH HIGHER average than Malaysians living in cities. Cities tend to average higher Iqs so that means the Malaysian average is WAY WAY below 92. Malaysias IQ average is only 92 because of the large Chinese and Indian population living there. Those groups raise the low low Malaysian average.

[quote]If singapore is so advanced why the hell are they inferior to Malaysia ?!!
Despite admitting all the highest IQ chinese and indian immigrants they could get, they are still no match for Malaysian Malays.All the cutting edge technologies created in SEAsia are still only created by ethnic Malays.[/quote]


[quote]I have already proven that the English with average IQ of 100 is still technologically superior to the Japanese who average 110.

That’s because Singapore is superior to Malaysia. They are a high tech first world country, Malaysia is still third world with most of the malays living in much poorer conditions than the Chinese. The Chinese RUN and dominate the high tech sector in Singapore and Malaysia. That’s why they make more money. And you havent proven jack with your comments on Englis vs. Japanese superiority, If you read you would know that I already proven otherwise. Also the Japanese average 105 not 110.


[quote]Similarly, Malaysian Malays with mean IQ of 97 will always remain technologically superior to singaporean chinese who's average is 110[/quote]

Where the hell do you get your information? Malays in Singapore average 92 vs. Chinese Singaporeans with 107.5. However your average of 92 is actually lower in Malaysia because the malays living in cities have it lucky. The total average for Malaysia is 92. However the large Chinese and Indian population raises the Malaysian average in IQ. Therefore your true IQ is about 89 or in the Indonesia range.



[quote]What are you stupid ? The chart only applies to singapore !

and the only reason singapore indians have higher Iq than singaporean Malays is because of the highly selective immigration policy of the singapore govt.[/quote]

Is that also the reason why the Chinese in China still average MUCH HIGHER Iqs than malays who average about 89?

[quote]These are the IQs of singaporeans:

singapore chinese=110 (only because of highly selective immigration)
http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/Peopl...-iq-table2.html

singapore Malays=96 (despite zero immigration)
http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/Peopl...-iq-table6.html

singapoe indians=?? (Maybe 100 but also only because of selective immigrations from india)[/quote]

You idiot, you don’t measure IQ using different tests like that. Use the chart from the isteve link since they put the Flynn effect in and it also measured a few dozen different countries. In the isteve chart Malays average 92 in Singapore and even lower in Malaysia. What a moron.


[quote]said it once and I'm gonna say it again. Malaysian indians' academic and economic attainment are much much lower than ethnic Malays. That means they decrease the average mathematics score of Malaysia by a big margin.[/quote]

Wrong, they score better and get accepted at better universities at a higher rate than your country. The Chinese and Indians both beat you in your own country and in singapore.


[quote]Huh. Malaysia would have been lucky to have Stalin or Pee Wee conducting IQ test on us. Even Santa Clause (whatever that is) would be more credible than somebody named Chaim. Do you know how Jewish his name sounds ? and do you know how much Jews hate Muslim Malays ?[/quote]

Who the hell is Chaim? Do you even know how to read? The test was given by

Lynn and Vanhanen

I know 100% that Lynn isn’t a jew, hes a white guy. And if you think he’s racist then I guess he must be an north east asian supremecist since he gave hong kong, Singapore, south korea, japan, Taiwan etc higher Iqs than even whites. Yeah whatever, deal with it, they don’t hate you its just that your race does in fact score that low.

[quote]DUH! I stamped Malay superiority over your lousy mongoloid @$$ and this is all you can say.[/quote]

All I can say? Im sorry but ive already written several pages worth of stuff disapproving all that pseudo bull$hit you come up with about malay superiority. What exactly are you superior to the Chinese at? They beat you in practically every category.

Low IQ Moron, you do not know even simple calculation! Who suck at math?

You must've eaten too many frogz. "How flatter how less academic progress"
What the hell is that.

Maybe if you stop eating lizards you will understand my argument; but it doesn't matter. You mongoloids are not important.



singapore may be the 2nd richest in SEAsia after Brunei but they are still technologically inferior to Malaysia because those chinese are as primitive as they look.

The only reason China has more technologies than Malaysia is because they have 1.4 billion ppl compared to 12 million Malaysian Malays. You need to have at least 1 billion chinese to match the 12 million Malays. Otherwise forget about taking us on.Thats why taiwan with only 20 million chinese are still technologically inferior to Malaysia.

Doubt all you want. If you walk around KL you can see western influence with their well known brands but not chinese. Sorry.The chinese only know how to sell other ppl's fancy stuff because running a shop does not require intelligence. They cannot do anything more than run shops because they are as stupid as they look. Thats why among Malaysians,only Malays are producing important technologies.

How the hell are the singaporean Malays supposed to compete when the singapore govt keep importing only highly qualified chinese and indians ? Those Malays are all original citizens from before independence.They were squeezed out of university places and good jobs only because of those immigrants and they are not the only ppl who have been marginalised by immigrants .Even the the original singaporean chinese and indians have become 2nd class citizens in their own homeland. Immigrants take away most college places and good jobs from them as well.

Those primitive singaporeans may have fooled you idiots into thinking they are first world but they cant fool descendants of noble predators like me. After learning how sissy they are and how miserably they live, I cant help but to laugh at them.

Nope. Malays either live in neat suburbs or spacious and clean village houses. All the filthy and smelly neighbourhoods in Malaysia are inhabited only by the chinese. Even the indians who are the poorest ethnic group in Malaysia don't live in such squalid conditions.

Then why the hell are all important Malaysian technologies created only by Malays?
and why is the singaporean tech sector created only by foreign companies ?

Chaim is the jew who conducted the IQ test on Malaysians in your isteve link ! You pathetic moron !

Man you really need to stay away from rat meat.

LOL, iron malayan, what a pathetic comeback. I've refuted all your claims with proof included, but still you come back to post more of your worthless crap.

malays belong to the bottom rung of the society and always will be due to their lack of intelligence. People like you and nasuranta just confirm Lynn's results of low malay iq.

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My advice is for you is to just let it go. It'll save you a lot of time and work.
They're delusional and idiotic. No matter what you say, they're not going to face the facts.

LOL I just proved that you suck at calculation, and now you retort by claiming that my calculations are wrong? If they are wrong then why arnt you correcting me? Maybe its due to the fact that your wrong and you know nothing. Just like how you know jack crap about the Flynn effect. Low IQ moron, Your stupid even by Indonesian standards.




Wrong, they are technologically superior to you in just about everyway. They make most of their money in areas like this. That’s why they are first world. Singapore is a helluva a lot more advanced than Malaysia. Even then a lot of the Chinese in Malaysia happen to be in the high tech sector. Without the Chinese your country would be Indonesia 2 since both malays and Indonesians seem to be very similar.



The only reason why Malaysia has less technology than the Chinese is because of the fact that malays are the majority. Do you not get it? The Chinese help your economy, develop technology and are simply smarter. Whos going to do better in school? Someone with an IQ of 89 or someone with an IQ of 107? Whos going to be smarter, whos going to learn more, whos going to be better at technology. Malaysia isn’t impressive, its still third world with the Chinese minority in Malaysia living in much better conditions than the malays.



Since your so confident on Malaysian technology please tell me of the internationally recognized and important Malaysian tech companies? Oh that’s right no one cares, Malaysia is a weak country. High technology happens to come from north east Asians and not Indonesians or Malaysians.




For the billionth time please present evidence that Singapore only employs qualified Chinese and Indians. Why arnt they doing the same with malays? Whatever your just Bsing yourself. Also you are a moron, the malays in Malaysia average about 89 similar to their cousins the Indonesians. Yet the Chinese in china average 100 and that Taiwanese average 104. They still kick your @$$ in intelligence. The average Chinese is much smarter than the average Malaysian or Indonesian. Heck a weak minded Chinese is still smarter than Malaysians or Indonesians for crying out loud. Also the reason why the Chinese take away most of the college places and good jobs is due to the fact THAT THEY ARE THE MOST QUALIFIED. Do you honestly think any company would hire a retard over a genius?



LOL now your going into conspiracy. So your telling me that the Singapore government is tricking the world by acting first world? Im sorry but anyone who lives in Singapore knows that its first world. Also those “primitive” Singaporeans happen to be smarter, wealthier, more advanced and simply better than Malay Malaysians.



Wrong, look at the statistics most Chinese live in the cities and are better off. Malays live in the poor areas or country sides because they cant seem to compete with the Chinese on a intellectual level.



What exactly are these Malaysian technologies and what are they so superior? Mind naming one internationally recognized company? No one cares about Malaysia and whatever technology your country has its probably run by the Chinese.



Do you have any proof that hes a jew? What about Lynn, hes not a jew? And seriously all those scores have nothing to do with jewish conspiracy. You must really be into conspiracies. Another sign of low intelligence and lack of common sense.

Moron, you just failed make simple calculation on your previous thread. You weak at math, LOL. You still fail to realize that.



This coming from low IQ moron mouth ..Flynn efect...Flynn effect...100 x you don't even know how to calculate that, you just know little bit how It works after I corrected you.

Everytime your low IQ brain confused the best you did mentioning Flynn effect again, and it's just like magic for you ...acrabadabra ..done.

Moron, LOL what frustated resort! Now you are claiming Malay in Malaysia IQ = 89.
Moron, show us your proof! With and without Flynn effect whatever you want which stated malay in Malaysia has IQ such as that.
Ho..ho.. such as frustrated attempt, you are need to lower yourself into just bul$hit moron.

Chinese IQ will arise a lot of question since the result was being conduct in Beijing and Shanghai, the result could be much lower than 100, I believe if the samples taken proportionally not only in big cities the result could be around 86 ~ 88.

Unhappy minority malay in singapore has IQ result 92 (after Flynn effect) or 96 (after correction), Malay in Malaysia who are the ruler in their own country could be higher than those number, at least 97.

here are many examples:

- Korean in Japan has much lower IQ compare to Korean in Korean.

- Minority Catholic Irish in northern ireland has 15 points lower IQ than average Irish.

Here is the link:
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-inferiorIQ.htm

But I guess moron like you with low IQ brain could not understand it.

Conspiracy or no conspiracy, Malaysian Malays' technologial superiority over the chinese of singapore and Malaysia has proven that Malay IQ cannot be lower than 97. Chaim and Lynn can place our IQ at 70 for all I know but they can't fool me. Sorry.


Malay companies don't have to be well known corporations to be involved in designing cutting edge stuff.

Its not that hard to find Malay cutting edge products if you are not afraid of reality.

I even named some of them in the 1st page; and no they are not "probably run" by chinese.
The chinese brain is not capable of high level innovations like those Malay made products.
In school the chinese may be better students than Malays but in the workplace they are inferior innovators.

*Yawns*

You badly need to post newer and more credible replies. I'm getting bored here.

Having to argue with lowly mongoloids like you already makes me feel like a two dollar ho.

Thats why I haven't been going max out lately.

After the humiliations I inflicted on your race in page 4 and 5, I went into cruise mode ever since.
For the past 2 pages I was only toying with you while waiting for the right moment to post even more humiliating replies.

In the meantime I even managed to dismiss your claim of superiority based only on higher IQ (which is mongoloid ppl's only source of pride) to be an exercise in futility.

to nusantara and iron malayan.

I would like to see some pics of you and nusan,since your two have the idea that indonesians and malays are aryans.IMAO.Just in case ppl dont know how aryan looking indonesian and malays are. IMAO,IMAO,LOL,LOL.


And what exactlly do malaysia have in high tech sectors?

plz name it some?

can malaysia and indonesia fly to the space?well,china can.
does malaysia and indonesia have nuclear weapons?
did malaysia and indonesia ever invended anything useful to the world?

like how the chinese did in the past?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=chinese+inventions

http://www.crystalinks.com/chinainventions.html


Chinese Inventions and Remedies


Some of the greatest inventions in the world were by made by the Chinese. In the T'ang dynasty, fireworks were invented. These were originally for shows, but later on they used them to scare of enemies in war. The fireworks were mainly small bamboo cases filled with gunpowder, and a fuse was put on the side.

In the Han dynasty, they invented the wheelbarrow, which was for carrying loads too heavy for a normal person's back to support. The wheelbarrow was originally wood, so the Chinese nick named it the 'wooden ox'.



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OTHER INVENTIONS

The compass was for religious use. When a new houses was being built, the used it to see if the house was faced in perfect harmony with nature (which meant they thought if you faced your house to magnetic north, you and nature would get along). The compass started out as a wooden circle with markings on it, and a magnetic spoon on top.



Designed with a machine called the Earthquake weathercock, which was a contraption that told them when and where an earthquake would come. This machine looked like a giant six-foot bronze pot that had dragon heads lining the top, and ivory frogs under each dragon.

Spaghetti

The Chinese first manufactured the 'fan', which was mostly carried by women and soldiers. Most of the fans were made out of bamboo and silk. The fan was basically many bamboo spines sticking out in almost a half circle with silk wrapped around it.

First to create kites, which mostly children played with. The kites were most of the time silk squares, held together by bamboo.

Created many things with bamboo, which made a lot of baskets and holders and were really strong.

The Chinese were the first to discover iron casting around the sixth century, when they mixed tin and copper together.

Revolutionized agriculture by harnessing animals

made boats modern with magnetic compasses, sternpost rudders and watertight flamboyance, plus many other things to long to tell.

The first clock that they devised was for astronomical uses. In the first clock ever, there was a puppet that would hold up a plaque that would tell the time. They also invented giant water clocks, which rang every fifteen minutes.

The first blast furnace, which was water powered.

To Chinese, jade was more valuable then gold.

They invented the first object for counting, called an abacus.

The Chinese used a method of medicine called acupuncture

They were the first to discover the rudder

Processed grain with bamboo machinery

They made most toys, machines, houses, and other things from bamboo.

The Chinese also were the first to think of harvesting silk, and make clothes, fans, kites, toys, paper, and lots of other things from it.

They produced the first planetarium, which was actually made by an emperor. The planetarium was a big enclosed place with stars and constellations on the inside. The person using the planetarium would sit in a chair that was hanging from the top of the enclosed dome.

In the 3rd century, they a found a wine that acted like anesthetic, and they also used herbs before the age of written history



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PAPER INVENTIONS





Invented paper and printing

In their writing, there were 80,000 different symbols

The first to invent books and had book shops in every city by the end of the T'ang dynasty

There were 3 different important kinds of paper, the very first being silk rags. The cheap kinds were no more then wooden strips, and the most expensive was silk cloth. Although most of the kinds of paper was made from over 50% bamboo, some of the other things they were made of were silk, cloth, hemp, mulberry bark, and plant fibers.


In the Han dynasty, 206B.C.-A.D.220, paper and ink were invented.

In the T'ang dynasty, 618-906, the first printer was invented.

In 868 AD the earliest known book ever was printed.



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About 1,800 years ago, during the Eastern Han Dynasty (25-220), Cai Lun improved China's papermaking technique using bark and hemp. This then became one of the four great ancient inventions of Chin. Today, ancient papermaking has been replaced by modern means of production, but in some places in southwestern China's Guizhou Province, where many people of ethnic-minority groups live; this ancient technique is still practiced.

In Huishui, Changshun and Danzhai near Guiyang, capital of Guizhou, many papermaking workshops are well preserved. Of them, the biggest is the one in Dongkou Village, Lushan Town, Huishui County, some 80 kilometers south of Guiyang.



Stone roller grinding fermented and boiled bamboo

At Dongkou Village, where Bouyei people live, we can see an open dam through which a limpid river flows, and flocks of ducks are seen sporting and playing in it. On the banks Bouyei women in groups of two and three wash clothes. All Are quiet, leisurely and carefree.

Looking down from a high place, we can wee large and small steaming and boiling kilns, fermenting pools and lime pits scattered all over like stars in the sky, as if to tell and sing a story of long, long ago. Near high and low thatched cottages are papermaking workshops and a water-powered mill wheel.

The local records say that the papermaking industry there began 300 years ago, in the late Ming and early Qing dynasties. Later it flourished during Qing emperor Qian Long's reign(1736-1796), and the number of papermaking households increased from three to a dozen. Every household had eight kilns, with a monthly rough-straw paper (or toilet paper) output of 150 kg. At that time, hand production included husking bamboo and hemp with pestles and mortars. Today, such primitive means of production can still be seen in Xieyao Village, Changshun, 30 kilometers from Huishui.

In the early 20th century, Dongkou's papermaking industry spread to more than 100 households. The husking of bamboo and hemp was then done by water- or ox-powered roller. In the 1940s, papermaking there became more flourishing, and production spread to 150 households, with a total of 300 kilns. The number of papermaking workshops grew to 180, grinding 1.5 million kilograms of bamboo raw materials a year with 60 rollers. Its annual output was 0.5 million tons of rough-straw paper. Today, both rough-straw paper and paper money are good sellers in all corners of the province.

To make rough-straw paper takes two kinds of bamboo as raw materials, with the addition of birch leaves, lime and water. Generally, the paper, called zhuma (bamboo hemp), is clean and is a good absorbent. One special use is for putting under corpses.



Collected dried paper

Birch leaves are necessary materials for papermaking. The mucilage is drained out of the leaves for strengthening the adhesion of the paper, and for improving its smoothness and evenness. First, bamboo is husked with a pestle and mortar. It is then placed in a pool of lime to soak for several days to make it soft. It is then put into a big kiln for steaming and boiling for 35 days. After being rinsed in river water, it is again steamed and boiled for another ten days before being ground into pieces and put into a pool of pure water. After mucilage from birch leaves has been added, it is then strained. The residue is the pulp raw material.

Originally, papermakers used bamboo curtains to hang the sheets of pulp on till they dried to the constituency of damp paper. Later, the remaining water was squeezed out.



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PAPER MONEY

Invented origami - which originated with the wealthy people in China - when they used expensive paper to write to friends. Before they sent the letters, they folded them up into fancy designs.

They also modified paper to make raincoats, windows, umbrellas, they used a lot of paper in their houses even windows!

Many of the children's toys were made out of paper

Armor for war was made from strengthened paper


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Some of the greatest inventions in the world were by made by the Chinese. INVENTIONS AS A RESULT OF WAR
Mostly with the Mongolians

In the T'ang dynasty, gunpowder was invented, which actually was by accident. They were attempting to make the elixir of life, which was supposed to make you immortal, and was primarily for emperors.

The first to make bombs for war, in the 17th Century, which were no more then a bamboo shell, about the thickness of two men's legs, and the length of a man's leg. The bombs were then filled with gunpowder, and a fuse like the fireworks, was installed.

Nest Cart - looked kind of like the Eiffel tower, with a giant birdhouse on top of it. The nest cart was a mobile lookout, for oncoming armies and other things. The people in the nest cart also dropped bombs from their perch, which was perfect because they had a bird's eye view.

Built the first cannon, which were just bamboo cases holding gunpowder and were put in a big iron cannon.

Bamboo or iron basket, which was like a smaller version of the cannon, that had arrows with rockets attached to them. The arrow rockets would shoot out of the miniature cannon like bullets out of a gun wood.


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MEDICINE
The Chinese had many natural remedies some of which included natural herbs and acupuncture.

The discovery of medicine in ancient China started more than 2,000 years ago. In Ancient China, the Chinese's goal to make medicine was to make an elixir of life to make emperors immortal and help them live eternally. Eventually, in their quest to make an elixir of life, they made series of medicines and remedies. That is how China began the search for medicine.

An elixir of life is a potion that the Chinese believed would make you live forever. The Chinese believed that this liquid potion was made from the gods, and whoever drank it would be rewarded with eternity, which means you would live forever. The Chinese wanted to try to make an elixir because they wanted to make the emperors immortal. That is why the ancient Chinese tried to discover a potion that would make you eternal.

The idea to discover an elixir and the science of medicine was influenced by Tao Ch'ien, a famous poet and philosopher. In his poetry and philosophy, he believed that if the Chinese discovered a method of turning metal into gold, which would last forever, they would at the same time discover the elixir of life. With this belief, doctors and pharmacologists began to search madly for a technique to make metal into gold. This belief also made doctors try to discover other ways to make people immortal, and that led to the making of the elixir.

After creating many medicines (such as herbal medicines like an Euryale seed which treated urination problems and animal organs, like the pig's liver, that helped someone's eyesight) which were discovered during the rush to make an elixir of life, Tsou Yen, a pharmacologist, formed a theory on how he thought diseases were caused. He believed two spirit-like life forces called Yin and Yang flowed through the body. He said that diseases were thought to be caused when either Yin or Yang were out of balance. After his belief was spread, many doctors in China tried to make a way to make the Yin and Yang balanced inside the body. This was when a pretty famous treatment was made, which is still used today.

About a century after the discovery of medicine, acupuncture was invented in China. Acupuncture is a treatment, which doesn't involve any drugs. Needles are put in certain parts of the person's body. The Chinese believed that if you put the needles in those specific spots, Yin and Yang would be balanced. When the forces were balanced, it was believed to relieve your pain and you wouldn't get any diseases. That treatment was the most commonly used one at the time.

Later in the years, Chinese medicine was becoming a little bit more advanced. Once again, Tsou Yen turned medicine-making into a science. He wrote theories about elements, and he made a system of rules of classifying large and small objects. Shen Nong then put herbal medicine in two categories: "Four Spirits" and "Five Tastes". Shen thought that if drugs or any other medicines that made your body respond to either cold, hot, warm, or cool, they would go in the "Four Spirits" group. If a medicine is sour, bitter, hot, sweet, or salty when it was tasted, it would be in the "Five Tastes" group.

These discoveries and events led to the invention of medicine. If the Chinese did not discover medicine, today's doctors would not have such advanced medicine we have today. The modern world has benefited on the inventions and discoveries made by China.

One of the most famous doctors was Tao Chi'en. He was the first to influence doctors to make a study of elixirs. He was also the one to pass the belief that if the Chinese discovered a method to make metal into gold, they would at the same time discover the elixir of life. With this belief, Li Shao-Chun was the first to make an attempt on making a metal to gold.

Li Shao-Chun was the first doctor, or pharmacologist, mentioned in early Chinese records. He was the one to pass a belief that gold made from a red metal called cinnabar could make a person immortal. He said if a man ate from dishes made from that gold, the man would be rewarded with eternal life by the goddess, Spirit of the Furnace. This belief of his was influenced by Tao Chi'en's thought. Soon many doctors spread many theories about making gold for the emperors.

A poet named Ko Hung organized most of the beliefs about making the immortal gold in a book. In his book, he also put formulas for making elixirs of life. Ko was the first to put all the methods of turning metal into gold and all the ways of making elixirs into a book.

Later in the years, people believed that doctors could bring people back to life. The people thought this because a famous doctor named Bian Que had brought a prince "back to life" in the year 201 B.C. This happened when he went to the state called Guo, and he saw a funeral of a prince going on in the state. The prince was dead for half the day, but Bian Que went to the body and did acupuncture on the prince's wrists and thighs. He also gave the prince many drugs and herbs. Soon, the prince came out of his coma and he was alive again!!!! The people were so amazed that Bian Que was named the Shaman of Life!

In 100 B.C., Shen Nong invented the first set of herbal medicines. He had made a graph full of herbs and their uses. He also showed a lot of doctors how the herbal medicine was made. With this discovered, Tao Hung Ching put all of Shen Nong's knowledge of herbs into a book. Herbal medicine had been invented in 100 B.C..

In Hong Kong, Alexander Yersin discovered the first identified parasite in China called the Yersinia Pestis. A parasite is a tiny little germ that you cannot see, but it could enter your skin and cause disease. This parasite was found in most of the diseases in China such as Malaria which is when a mosquito injects some sickening juice in you skin. After finding a parasite, many Chinese doctors developed a series of remedies to stop this parasite. This was the first parasite discovered in China.

Li Shizen was a famous pharmacologist noted in Chinese records, too. He travelled through China to find every medical achievement there was. He then summarized them from his time, and he listed the 1,892 herbs and listed the 11,000 prescriptions in a book. He also corrected mistakes in some medicine uses and he classified all the herbs used in medicine.

There were many interesting ways to make medicine in ancient China. The ingredients for China's unique medicines were mostly herbs. Of course, there were no supermarkets and malls to go to buy the things for medicine. So, to get the stuff for medicine, most doctors had to get their herbs from a farmer, or some doctors grew their herbs by themselves. But the long process to make remedies was very exhausting. The first step for making the ancient medicine was to grow the herbs in the fields of China.

The Chinese had learned how to grow herbs and raise animals 4,000 years ago. The Chinese grew their herbs in mountainous terrains and narrow terraces, which are grassy fields that have a series of banks. In the terrains, they grew their herbs in a rich, yellow soil called loess. It was said that loess was blown in from the Mongolian Desert. To cut the herbs from the fields, they used a wooden knife, called a Leem, to cut the weeds. After getting the herbs, the herbs were given to the doctors. That was how the doctors got the herbs.

The herbs were dried by the sun. The herbs were left there for a couple of hours. After it was dried, it was then soaked in cold water. Next, the doctor or pharmacologist took the herb and he/she mashed the herb into a powder with a wooden cylinder bar. After that, they took the powder and mixed it with some water and stirred it to form a liquid. After this procedure, the herbal medicine is done. Some of the liquidized herbs were potable, but other herbs were rubbed on your skin if you had skin disease and fractured bones. That was how they made some of the herbal medicines.

Not all medicines were herbs. Some of them used animal organs or animal parts. To get the organs, the doctors cut the animal with a bronze knife. They took out the organs that were good for sicknesses, such as a sheep's eye. The organs or parts were cleaned in water, then the parts were given to patients for them to eat so that patient could be cured. The rest of the body of the animal was dried and stretched on a stick. To eat it, the people had to boil it in water.

In Ancient times, the Chinese believed that two dragon spirits could be in your heart. They were the black dragon, and the white dragon. The black dragon spirit represented bad luck and evil. The white dragon spirit represented eternity and good luck. Each spirit was believed to be in a person's heart, and either the black or white one lived in your heart. In order to know if you either have the white or black dragon spirit in you, a doctor has to inspect your tongue.

The Chinese believed if your tongue's color was yellow, it would mean that fire from the dragon has risen in your stomach. If your tongue has a purple color, that means that your heart is pumping unhealthy blood. If you had a yellow or a purple tongue, the Chinese believed that you would have the black dragon spirit. You would have the white dragon spirit if you had a healthy red tongue. This was one of Ancient China's religious beliefs, and with this belief, the Chinese doctors discovered a way to rid the black dragon spirit. It is called the heat treatment.

The heat treatment was another treatment used in ancient China. For this process, a doctor places a needle in your skin, and the doctor burns mugwort, an herb. The heat from the burning mugwort is carried through the needle and into the body. This was supposed to relax your mind and to excite your spirit. If you had the black dragon spirit in you, the Chinese believed the heat treatment could make it go away.

In Ancient China, there were people who had a lot of sicknesses and diseases such as skin disease, urination problems, chicken pox, and lack of energy. To get treated, these people had to go to the village doctor. If you went there and you had asthma or you were depressed, the doctor would cure it by letting you eat some ginseng weed, which is an herb.

There were many other medicines that helped the people. If you had skin problems, the medicine the ancient Chinese would give you to eat would be dried sea horse. If you were a man and you thought you needed more energy in your sex life then the ancient Chinese would give you some dried gecko for you to cook and eat. There were many other medicines that had numerous nutrients and minerals such as the cow stomach which has a lot of iron in it, or the sheep's eye which has many vitamins in it.

History of Traditional Chinese Medicine



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Chinese Archaeologists Find Evidence of Craniotomies 4,000 Years Ago
July 30 1999 - Xinhua News

Beijing, Xinhua - Chinese surgeons were able to perform a craniotomy, the surgical opening of the skull, which is difficult even in modern times, as early as 4,000 years ago.

This is contrary to archaeologists' previous belief that the craniotomy was introduced to China by Arabs after the Tang Dynasty (618-907).

In the latest issue of the journal Archaeology, Han Kangxin and Chen Xingcan, of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences' Institute of Archaeology, say that several ancient skulls with holes on them were discovered at sites in Qinghai, Henan, Heilongjiang provinces.

Carbon dating indicates that the skull, which was found in a tomb in Minhe County in Qinghai, is the oldest to have had this operation in China and was from the later New Stone Age, about 4, 000 years ago.

A large triangular cut can be found at the top of the skull with traces of scraping around it. There are also two sunken traces on the skull, which Han says might have been left by a strike from a certain instrument, causing a fracture and inflammation of the skull.

There were some bony growths around the hole and the scraped traces are indistinct, he says, meaning that the patient survived for a period of time after the operation.






CHINA INDEX



ANCIENT AND LOST CIVILIZATIONS



econamy wise.you stated that taiwan is inferior to malaysia.


Economy Taiwan Top of Page
Economy - overview:
Taiwan has a dynamic capitalist economy with gradually decreasing guidance of investment and foreign trade by government authorities. In keeping with this trend, some large government-owned banks and industrial firms are being privatized. Exports have provided the primary impetus for industrialization. The trade surplus is substantial, and foreign reserves are the world's third largest. Agriculture contributes less than 2% to GDP, down from 32% in 1952. Taiwan is a major investor throughout Southeast Asia. China has overtaken the US to become Taiwan's largest export market. Because of its conservative financial approach and its entrepreneurial strengths, Taiwan suffered little compared with many of its neighbors from the Asian financial crisis in 1998. The global economic downturn, combined with problems in policy coordination by the administration and bad debts in the banking system, pushed Taiwan into recession in 2001, the first year of negative growth ever recorded. Unemployment also reached record levels. Output recovered moderately in 2002 in the face of continued global slowdown, fragile consumer confidence, and bad bank loans; and the essentially vibrant economy pushed ahead in 2003-04. Growing economic ties with China are a dominant long-term factor, e.g., exports to China of parts and equipment for the assembly of goods for export to developed countries


Economy Indonesia Top of Page
Economy - overview:
Indonesia, a vast polyglot nation, has restored financial stability and pursued sober fiscal policies since the Asian financial crisis, but many economic development problems remain, including high unemployment, a fragile banking sector, endemic corruption, inadequate infrastructure, a poor investment climate, and unequal resource distribution among regions. Indonesia became a net oil importer in 2004 due to declining production and lack of new exploration investment. As a result, Jakarta is not reaping the benefits of high world oil prices, and the cost of subsidizing domestic fuel prices has placed an increasing strain on the budget. Keys to future growth remain internal reform, building up the confidence of international and domestic investors, and strong global economic growth. In late December 2004, a major tsunami took over 237,000 lives in Indonesia and caused massive destruction of property.


bad economy



Economic aid - recipient:
$43 billion
note: Indonesia finished its IMF program in December 2003 but still receives bilateral aid through the Consultative Group on Indonesia (CGI), which pledged $2.8 billion in grants and loans for 2004 and again in 2005; nearly $4 billion in aid money pledged by a variety of foreign governments and other groups following the 2004 tsunami; money is slated for use in relief and rebuilding efforts in Aceh.


again,poor economy



even the chinese americans are doing better and smarter than low iq,lay malaysian and indonesians.


the founder of yahoo is chinese,the founder of the largest graphic chip company Nvidia is also chinese.


Chen Ning Yang - Nobel laureate, Physics

Daniel Chee Tsui - 1998 Nobel prize, Physics

Samuel C. C. Ting - 1976 Nobel laureate, Physics

Yoyo Ma - cellist

Wen Ho Lee (李文和) - nuclear physicist, accused spy, acquitted

Henry C. Lee - forensic scientist

Bruce Lee - actor, kung fu

Michelle Kwan (關穎珊) - figure skater

Steven Chu - 1997 Nobel Prize in Physics, first Asian American to run one of the 16 national laboratories operated by the Department of Energy (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory)

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/L...inese-Americans

enough said. low iq malays and indonesians wont understand it.

we mongoloid race owned your malayos @$$ in almost ever case

from tech to economy.
heck,you are prolly playing japanese made video games,watching korean drams,and chinese movies. or driving an japanese made car.or using chinese made graphic chip.or looking at yahoo.or using samsung cell phone,well practicully almost every high tech stuff you use is made by you so-called "LOW IQ MONGOLOID".ironicly these "HIGH IQ MALAYOS" cant produce a thing.

So What? HK (=107) and Taiwan (=104), you're fu-king retarded. Both you and the other dip$hit are losing the argument, that's why both of you are resorting to insults and retarded assumptions, like the one above. It's not going to raise alot of questions, since the results were thorougly studies by people who (unlike you) did do extensive research and even hold PhD's. In fact, China's national average IQ has been reduced with many points in order to get are more realistic number. The same was done for indionesia but all you guys can do is whine and b!tch about how the results were "tampered" with. Why can you just face facts and accept that the avg. malay has a low iq?



Haha, you call that "humiliation"? Nope, you're not even close. You're not able to present any kind of credible proof, hell you even posted thing that actually worked against you. How retarded is that?
On the contrary: you and nasuranta have been owned many times by various members in this thread and yet you still come back to embarass yourself even further.



Unhappy? Ethnic malays in SG are not discriminated against (UNLIKE the koreans in japan), the govt is even helping them in order to get better educational results, but despite all this they still belong to the bottom on the society (IE. scum of the earth). IMO. malays are only good at picking fruit from trees.

Nope.Most Indonesians and a portion of Malaysians are not real Malays but aborigines. This topic was made to campaign for Malays of high racial purity to keep out undesirable chinese and aborigine blood from our gene pool.


I have already named some but not all in the 1st page.

Canada,Australia and Netherland with populations of 16 million to 32 million each also cannot build powerful rockets.Does it mean they are inferior to the chinese ? China only managed to reach space when their population hit 1 billion a few decades back.It took 1 billion chinese to produce the technical talents needed to acquire this capability. Malaysia will have this ability when Malaysian ethnic Malays population are still below 25 million.


Malaysia and Indonesia are the only SEAsian countries that can build nukes if they want to.

singapore is not clever enough because there are only 3 milllion chinese there. You need at least 1 billion chinese to build nukes.

We don't make nuclear bombs due to the threat of economic sanctions and weapons embargo.

I already answered this question earlier.



First of all,guns were invented by Arabs in the 13th century. The chinese brain is not capable of such an important invention.

Furthermore, some of those inventions mentioned are disputable.

The chinese are only left with not so important inventions such as paper,compass and some other no big deal stuff. Even then some of those discoveries were made only by accident.




Nope. I said technology-wise taiwan is inferior to Malaysia




This topic is not about Indonesia.
Indonesia is less than 15% Malay.



If you have 1.5 billion chinese all over the world, some of them are bound to make it big but proportionally this is nothing.
There are only 12 million etnic Malays in Malaysia and around 30 million true Malays in Indonesia.Some Malays like Arifeen Bongso made important contributions but were overlooked because they are Muslims. How can you compare 32 million real Malays against 1.5 billion chinese ?

PhD or no PhD, anyone who mess up his own results will still lose credibility and once credibility is lost it can never be regained. I will not hesitate to dismiss anyone who fouled up like Lynn and Chaim so you can stop telling me what your precious Richard Lynn said. As long as we are technologically superior to Malaysian and singaporean chinese it doesn't matter.

You think your opinion mean anything to me ?
I spit on your prostitute race.
Your cheap chinese race is a fu-king joke.


You tried to be a hero here and you ended up getting owned.

Keep it comin'

The more victims the merrier.

If some of my earlier racist remarks appear too much, you ain't seen NOTHING yet.



This is the list of Iron Malayan's victimz so far:
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Emperor = PWNED

konjiki no gas =PWNED


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Haha, that's all you can say? How typical of you, you do know you're only resorting to insults because you know you lost the argument, right?



No, it isn't. Brand like Acer, Asus, Abit, Gigabyte are Chinese-Taiwanese. In fact, Taiwan is a major producer of chips, memory and other computer parts.
Can you name a malaysian one? I bet you can't.

Ethnic malays contributed nothing to the world and never will. They're only good as servants/prostitutes and fruit pickers.