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BingBinG69
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"Abhisit congrate victory for the team defeat on the PraVhan temple."
tazzytazz
QUOTE (BingBinG69 @ Jul 31 2010, 04:41 PM) *
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/1886...d-of-temple-war eek.gif

"Abhisit congrate victory for the team defeat on the PraVhan temple."

How is that a victory to the thais when WHC only postponed the decision? They needed more time to study the details of the temple which includes all the khmer carvings and scripts. I think its a good idea (really) that they had postponed it. This will give us more time to make our case that the temple and all its surroundings really do belong to the Khmers. Besides, the chairperson in the meeting didnt allow the thai delegation to not even speak one word.
BingBinG69
QUOTE (tazzytazz @ Jul 31 2010, 06:30 PM) *
How is that a victory to the thais when WHC only postponed the decision? They needed more time to study the details of the temple which includes all the khmer carvings and scripts. I think its a good idea really that they had postponed it. This will give us more time to make our case that the temple and all its surroundings really do belong to the Khmers.


The more time is given, the more effort the Thai will have to trying to use nessesary cause to jeopardized both side. I think Cumbodia needs allies in the region to favored them, atleast they don't have to be standing alone on this case. I mean, why not bring the ASEAN nation up on this case since it should be a case where ASEAN should be working together for peace and stability. Isn't this what ASEAN wants right? Also, cumbodian needs allies like Laos and Vietnam in this investegation and prove it belong to Cumbodian people.

Personally I think that temple obviously belong to Cumbodia since it been there way before the Tai race migrated to your Khmer Kingdom. I'm just being logical thats all. icon_smile.gif
SuperLanxan
QUOTE (BingBinG69 @ Jul 31 2010, 04:41 PM) *
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/1886...d-of-temple-war eek.gif

"Abhisit congrate victory for the team defeat on the PraVhan temple."


This is some real issue facing Cambodia and yet thewiseguy, viesnabotkampujia, goombaking, is more concern with Laos. embarassedlaugh.gif Or maybe is because they have their heads up Thai A.S.S. embarassedlaugh.gif
MFofLanxan
QUOTE (SuperLanxan @ Aug 2 2010, 06:48 PM) *
This is some real issue facing Cambodia and yet thewiseguy, viesnabotkampujia, goombaking, is more concern with Laos. embarassedlaugh.gif Or maybe is because they have their heads up Thai A.S.S. embarassedlaugh.gif


A little girl in Lao has to eat a little frog to survive, Lao women has to jump der boarder to sell themselves in Thailand to survive. Dat's is more issue facing Lao n yet u, Savan, Buffalove BingBing r more concern in dissing Thais n Khmer n Vietnam in AF or maybe is because u r A.S.S. holes who r capable of nothing but trash talking ur neighboring countries.
Goombaking209
What an idiot. I find my time more valuable to degrade you Laosers and your pathetic pride than to argue with Thai members on the trivial issue regarding Preah Vihear, which Cambodia has officially had since 1962, and reestablished management in 2008 by UNESCO. What more is there to squabble about? Are average Thai citizens or Khmer-Americans able to have a say in this issue? lol The truth is, its not really a concern of mine because Cambodia wants exclusive rightfully unilateral management of Preah Vihear and Cambodia will be able to accomplish this. If not, they'll close the border off from the Thai side.
thewiseguy
They Laosers is desperate to see Thais and Khmers fight on AF I find it funny.
DekThai101
Respect to Khmer users here. Man, you guys see right through his intentions.
BingBinG69
QUOTE (Goombaking209 @ Aug 2 2010, 09:53 PM) *
What an idiot. I find my time more valuable to degrade you Laosers and your pathetic pride than to argue with Thai members on the trivial issue regarding Preah Vihear, which Cambodia has officially had since 1962, and reestablished management in 2008 by UNESCO. What more is there to squabble about? Are average Thai citizens or Khmer-Americans able to have a say in this issue? lol The truth is, its not really a concern of mine because Cambodia wants exclusive rightfully unilateral management of Preah Vihear and Cambodia will be able to accomplish this. If not, they'll close the border off from the Thai side.


Aren't you Cumbodian??? Why would you not support or help your own people and pride of your motherland?????? Don't you feel ashame to let go of your ancient bretheren history to the Thai people????? This is truly sad to see your culture being taken away and that you seem to not care for those that do. Your people need you guys to support them and give voice for all Cambodia and her future image.


I don't hate or trying to cause any trouble, but reading this news just makes me wonder whats nexts on the Thai agenda. I love the Cambodian people, I just happen to love teasing them thats all. icon_smile.gif My advice do not trust the Thai even if they are nice in front, but later you will regret it worst. They are known to be two face lair period.
SuperLanxan
QUOTE (thewiseguy @ Aug 2 2010, 10:46 PM) *
They Laosers is desperate to see Thais and Khmers fight on AF I find it funny.


I bet if Thailand does steal the temple away from Cambodia you'll be the first one to congratulate Thailand. embarassedlaugh.gif
thewiseguy
QUOTE (SuperLanxan @ Aug 3 2010, 12:46 AM) *
I bet if Thailand does steal the temple away from Cambodia you'll be the first one to congratulate Thailand. embarassedlaugh.gif



UN won't allow them to steal it. Next topic. embarassedlaugh.gif

LOL @ Laosers trying to instigate a Khmer-Thai war on AF.
MFofLanxan
QUOTE (SuperLanxan @ Aug 3 2010, 03:46 AM) *
I bet if Thailand does steal the temple away from Cambodia you'll be the first one to congratulate Thailand. embarassedlaugh.gif


TRANSLATION : Please thewiseguy, stop teaming up with der Thai to diss us. I can't handle U both at der same times. bawling.gif bawling.gif bawling.gif
SuperLanxan
QUOTE (thewiseguy @ Aug 3 2010, 04:09 AM) *
UN won't allow them to steal it. Next topic. embarassedlaugh.gif

LOL @ Laosers trying to instigate a Khmer-Thai war on AF.


You can't rely on the UN. Where was the UN when Pol Pot was slaughtering Cambodians? Did they come to your peoples rescue?
thewiseguy
QUOTE (SuperLanxan @ Aug 3 2010, 02:34 AM) *
You can't rely on the UN. Where was the UN when Pol Pot was slaughtering Cambodians? Did they come to your peoples rescue?



No the mighty big bad Laos did embarassedlaugh.gif
Euphoria
Poor Lao, they can't handle it when Thai, Khmer and Viet members in AF are getting together and attacking them.
So that's why they try so hard to break Thai and Khmer members apart by bringing this news up. embarassedlaugh.gif

Goombaking209
Bingbing, you are really really big IDIOT, DUMB, DON'T KNOW NOTHING type of STOOPID. I'm nothing like you laosers who get insecure from reading news that other IDIOTS publish on the internet. Poor laosers, they want to see us turn on Thais so bad for no good reason.
BingBinG69
QUOTE (Goombaking209 @ Aug 3 2010, 11:24 AM) *
Bingbing, you are really really big IDIOT, DUMB, DON'T KNOW NOTHING type of STOOPID. I'm nothing like you laosers who get insecure from reading news that other IDIOTS publish on the internet. Poor laosers, they want to see us turn on Thais so bad for no good reason.


Stoopid? I thought they spell them like this "Stupid"? LOL! Looked who's stupid now. embarassedlaugh.gif Don't worry there are more to come honey. kiss.gif
BingBinG69
I wish we have Burma Chat room. This would be so much fun and exciting!!! beerchug.gif
Goombaking209
What a dumbass, does it occur to you that it was my intention to spell it that way just to test you? Either way you can be let off on an intended spelling error, but you logic is almost nonexistence and incoherent, just like a real Laoser.
BingBinG69
QUOTE (Goombaking209 @ Aug 3 2010, 11:44 AM) *
What a dumbass, does it occur to you that it was my intention to spell it that way just to test you? Either way you can be let off on an intended spelling error, but you logic is almost nonexistence and incoherent, just like a real Laoser.


How so? There is nothing wron with me posting up this actual news to share and debate about Cambodia and Thailand issue. This issue with the temple should be shared with all Former GMS "Greater Sub-region" nation. Also, I was just wondering why can't the ASEAN come into the table since all SEA believe in peace and stability with all of its neighboring country? Also, the formation of ASEAN is politcally tied to Bangkok and its entire power within. Basically Cambodia is just a one target practice for the Thai to poke Cambodia as a test.

If thailand was to do like they do to cambodia. By now there would been a small war or people protesting in Central Thailand against favoritism and manipulation of social unrest with its neighboring country. Also, the Lao people are willing to destroy those Thai causer too the root if this happen. And it is surely more complicated then that if one to failed.
Goombaking209
urgg... Your unclear intentions for trying to instigate a "debate" says otherwise. Since when does ASEAN have authority to put Cambodia or Thailand in check, or the World Heritage Committee for that matter? It should be clear by now that nobody wants to be a political tool between two governments be it Khmer or Thai governments. I fully support my people to protect their Khmer heritage and all concerning interest to Khmer, but I will not stand by and allow dumbasses like yourself try to weasel unnecessary sentiments on issue that doesn't even concern you, let alone Laosers in general.
MisterKhmer
This is great news. Property that once belong to thailand is being return to thailanad
sawan
I think nobody won, both countries lost.

This is what both countries should do.

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Cambodian Prince writes to Thai PM, calling for cooperation
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Cambo...o-30135203.html

An advisor to the Cambodian King has written to Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, calling for harmony and cooperation to end standoff over the status of Preah Vihear temple and other disputed areas along the border, the Phnom Penh Post reported.

Phnom Penh Post said Prince Sisowath Thomico, an adviser to King Norodom Sihamoni, wrote to Abhisit from Beijing, stating that the two countries had an interest in putting aside territorial disputes for the "harmony" of the region.

"Raising territorial claims is a futile attempt that flies in the face of history, and that harms our people by diverting significant resources that could otherwise be invested in development," the Post quoted the letter as saying.

"My dearest wish, Your Excellency, would be to see Preah Vihear standing as the enduring symbol of the reconciliation between our two nations, of the harmony of our relationship, and a model of fruitful cooperation between the two neighbours."
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I belive that Thailand is willing to work with Cambodia to develope such disputed land together.

Nobody win this game if Hun Sen doesn't change his strategy.

The only win-win is to work together.

Do you know how small that piece of land is?

It doesn't worth human life.

Prince Sisowath is a real patriot of Cambodia.

He doesn't want to see his people die of such small piece of land.

SuperLanxan
QUOTE (Euphoria @ Aug 3 2010, 07:05 AM) *
Poor Lao, they can't handle it when Thai, Khmer and Viet members in AF are getting together and attacking them.
So that's why they try so hard to break Thai and Khmer members apart by bringing this news up. embarassedlaugh.gif


Why should we try to stop the Cambodians from licking A.S.S? They can lick Thai and Viet A.S.S all they want. LOL I just find it funny these Cambodians are more concern about Laos than their own country.
MisterKhmer
QUOTE (SuperLanxan @ Aug 6 2010, 05:19 AM) *
Why should we try to stop the Cambodians from licking A.S.S? They can lick Thai and Viet A.S.S all they want. LOL I just find it funny these Cambodians are more concern about Laos than their own country.


Us jungle khmers can't go with war with the viets. They are our masters
yougottaknow
QUOTE (SuperLanxan @ Aug 6 2010, 05:19 AM) *
Why should we try to stop the Cambodians from licking A.S.S? They can lick Thai and Viet A.S.S all they want. LOL I just find it funny these Cambodians are more concern about Laos than their own country.


No Khmer have any problem with Thai and Viets because they are well-behaved. As for you dumb Laoches, you can kiss my a$$.
Kdaw_Tmaw
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Cambodian King's aide seeks calm

Thu, Aug 05, 2010
The Nation/Asia News Network


Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva interpreted a letter from the Cambodian king's adviser as a welcome gesture, saying the idea to make the Preah Vihear a symbol of reconciliation between the two countries sounded good.

"The Preah Vihear has historical and cultural values which could create peace and reconciliation between the people of two countries," he said.

"But if we take advantage of the issue for territorial boundary purposes, people on both sides won't accept it."

The Thai government has objected to the world heritage inscription on the Preah Vihear for fear of territory loss in the disputed areas adjacent to the temple.

In a letter to Abhisit recently, Prince Sisowath Thomico, an adviser to King Norodom Sihamoni, said the two countries should not use the territorial dispute to spoil "harmony" in the region.

"Raising territorial claims is a futile attempt that flies in the face of history, and that harms our people by diverting significant resources that could otherwise be invested in development," the prince's letter was quoted as saying by the Phnom Penh Post.

Abhisit acknowledged the letter but said he had not yet received the copy. It was unclear whether the letter is a personal idea or reflects real opinion in the Cambodian government, he said.

Government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said the Thai government interpreted the letter as a personal one to express goodwill and cordial relations between the two countries.

The Foreign Ministry would read and offer an official interpretation of the letter later, he said.

The letter was sent when Thailand and Cambodia were both claiming victory over the World Heritage Committee's decision.

Thailand saw a victory in the committee's decision to consider the temple management plan at its next session in 2011, rather than reading reports submitted by Cambodia during the session in Brazil last week.

Thailand expressed its concern that Cambodia might take the areas to the west and north of the temple, which are subject of a border dispute with Thailand, as buffer zones for the heritage-listed property.

Cambodia argued it had not taken the areas - and the committee decision would not deter it from implementing the plan it had submitted to the committee months ago.

Nationalist movements in Thailand are pressuring the government to oppose all Cambodian moves and activities at the Preah Vihear. They called on the government to use military force to exercise 'Thai sovereignty' in the disputed areas near the temple. "Peaceful ways might cause loss of territory," said Panthep Puapongpan, spokesman of the People's Alliance for Democracy.

Phnom Penh blamed Abhisit's government for provoking nationalism and for giving out misleading information over the world heritage for political gain.

The Preah Vihear's status was ruled on by the International Court of Justice in 1962. It is situated in territory under sovereignty of Cambodia, but nationalists in Thailand and Abhisit's government claim only the stone temple ruin belongs to Cambodia, not the surrounding areas.

Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Sen told the Cambodian people there was nothing to worry about over the border issue with Thailand, despite feelings heating up. The military leaders of both sides met and agreed to keep their troops in their stations.

Despite the current calm, Hun Sen said his troops were ready to protect the border from intrusion. http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews...805-230661.html
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Temple dispute a minefield for Thai PM

Thu, Aug 05, 2010
The Nation/Asia News Network


THAILAND - Perhaps Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has finally realised that he jumped on the wrong bandwagon over the controversial Preah Vihear Temple because his yellow shirts have turned against him and his government, accusing them of losing Thai territory.

The nationalist People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) alleges that the government had already recognised Cambodia's right over the temple, and victory over the delay in the consideration of Phnom Penh's management plan means nothing.

It's strange but true that the PAD, which is supposed to back this government, is echoing Cambodian Deputy Prime Minister Sok An's claim that Natural Resource and Environment Minister Suwit Khunkitti had accepted and signed the World Heritage Committee's decision 34 COM 7B.66.

One of five points in the decision cited that the committee "welcomed" steps taken by the state party (Cambodia) toward the establishment of an international coordinating committee (ICC) for the sustainable conservation of Preah Vihear.

Establishing the ICC is good, because the temple has been given World Heritage status since 2008. It is a basic requirement to have such a body run a heritage property.

However, much to PAD's delight, Thailand declined Cambodia's invitation to sit on the ICC. Establishing the ICC is equivalent to implementing the management plan, and the "welcome" as well as Suwit's acceptance justifies its implementation.

Common sense tells you that being invited to participate in the management of a World Heritage property should be an honour for Thailand. However, this government thought that joining the committee would be equivalent to accepting and recognising Cambodia's sovereignty over the temple and surrounding areas.

According to an International Court of Justice ruling in 1962, the Hindu temple of Preah Vihear is situated in territory that is under the sovereignty of Cambodia.

When Abhisit was opposition leader, he and his alliance PAD used a very strange argument - the court ruling was only on the ruins of the temple, not the area, which comes under the sovereignty of Thailand. In other words, Thailand accepted that the temple belonged to Cambodia, but not the land the temple is sitting on.

If Thailand recognised any activities - be they by Cambodia or the World Heritage Committee - in the area under question, it could be seen as recognising Cambodia's sovereignty, they said.

In reality though, the 250,000 square metres that the temple is sitting on was relinquished by a 1962 Cabinet decision to Cambodia. Like it or not, that land has already been given away.

The area that should be under dispute is the 4.6 square kilometres to the west and the north of the temple, as both sides claim it is theirs. In its management plan for Preah Vihear, Cambodia does not include the disputed area in the buffer zone. So, there's not much point in Thailand opposing the plan.

Yet, the PAD has been going beyond expectations - declaring that Cambodia dared to claim the temple's surrounding area because Phnom Penh used and Thailand recognised the French-Siamese joint boundary committee's 1:200,000-scale map. According to the PAD, the best thing would be for Thailand to reject this map.

Unfortunately though, it was a Democrat-led government under Chuan Leekpai that signed the memorandum of understanding for boundary demarcation in 2000. The pact recognised the map and Siam-Franco treaties as historical documents for boundary demarcation.

The PAD is mounting pressure on the government, while Abhisit is in a difficult position of having to steer away from his own rhetoric. He cannot fiercely oppose the PAD, because his Democrat Party and the PAD's New Politics Party share the same political bas.

The only option would be to blame Cambodia, but that's not easy either because border security and lives of people could end up being at stake.
http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews...805-230660.html


I believe Cambodia has already made its claim and point very clear and is in no way seeking violence to solve this matter. It is up to the Thailand and its people to help guide their government to a peaceful resolution and friendly co-operation with Cambodia once and for all. So lets get this over with and lets all have a drink together beerchug.gif .
BingBinG69
I think ASEAN is useless and it doesn't work on peace and stability at all. Thailand shouldn't be the model nation to lead in the region since they don't have stable and reasonable peace society that can lead others developing nation into peace.

I'em not trying to create problems, but finding solution is the only best way to develope any nation especially SEA nation that are in all different level of goals and development socially. The only problem with un-certain issue politically is that all SEA don't have the same government and each country have different ways to develope there own country.
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