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Cevilgenius
I really don't get that difference between Han and all that other stuff. Mind enlightening me?
Kulong
QUOTE (Cevilgenius @ Feb 4 2004, 04:40 PM)
I really don't get that difference between Han and all that other stuff.  Mind enlightening me?

Before the Qing dynasty (1644 - 1911) and except for the Yuan dynasty (1279 - 1368), the Han ethnic rules China and is the majority of the Chinese population.

Many people, especially non-Chinese automatically equate Chinese (Zhongguoren) with Han, similar to how many automatically equate American with Caucasian.

During the Qing dynasty while the Manchu was in charge, the identity of Zhonghua was formed. Zhonghua refers to the five major ethnic groups living in the Middle Kingdom, which includes Han, Manchu, Mongol, Tibetan, and Hui.

When the Qing dynasty was overthrown and was replaced with the Republic of China in 1911, the Zhonghua identity passed on.

However, it wasn't until after 1949, when the Chinese communist party took over China and established the People's Republic of China, did we know there are 57 ethnic groups in China, not just 5. The CCP spent a great amount of money and effort into research and identifying all the Chinese ethnic minority groups.

Today, the Han makes up 92% of the Chinese population. Although 8% may not seem like many people for the rest of the 56 ethnic group, you have to realize that China has a totaly population of 1,600,000,000. 8% of 1.6 billion is 128,000,000. So if you average out, each ethnic group has about 2.2 million people. But of course in reality, some ethnic minority groups are much larger than others.

You can find some good information about the Han ethnic here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese

BTW, as the above website is pro-West, it's filled with some anti-Chinese sentiments. But it is generally accurate.
CTangCG5
Han from Southern China, roots from a little town called Dai Pang between HK and Guangdong.
L4dyInfamouzKhmer
i dunno if i already answered diz but o well haha.. but n e waiz im khmer(cambodian)...... n also thai, lao, n viet.. so haha yup
aZnRiCeChiQ
im hmong
AzNgIrL
w00t! another hmong!! party.gif party.gif party.gif THREE CHEERS FOR THE RED WHITE N BLUE!! Lol. Hmong here as well icon_smile.gif
Cevilgenius
That's a bit too much just for a hmong... sure.gif
LiL_VieT_Dr4g0n
CHINESE VIET!! WOOT WOOT!!!! cool30.gif cool30.gif cool30.gif
aznpeople
QUOTE (aZnRiCeChiQ @ Feb 4 2004, 07:37 PM)
im hmong

rite on! Hmong PEoples KEep on COmIN! icon_wink.gif
直隸總督
I'm a Chinese, of Dongyi origin.
Sweet Dream*~
chinese/cantonese!!! haha coolziez~!
gaijinkokujin
native cherokee tribe indian and black.
Hai-Leigh
I'm Japanese.

tidus
chinese/hong kong
lovelyfart
wow a lot of chinese here biggrin.gif
i'm korean
mini_cookie
i am Chinese
Colordevil
Chinese here, again
Digital Insanity
Filipino.
IYIiDWeSt_T.S.I3
again..i am hmong.

a unknown ethic group icon_smile.gif
Cevilgenius
If it's unknown then how do we know about it?
Kulong
I'm sure he meant "lesser-known" rather than "unknown".
b3n
Yeah

i'm viet!
直隸總督
QUOTE (Kulong @ Feb 7 2004, 01:14 PM)
I'm sure he meant "lesser-known" rather than "unknown".

He wanted to victimize himself
Himitsu
Latina right here!
Though I'm sure a lot of people already know that. embarassedlaugh.gif
lovelyfart
QUOTE (IYIiDWeSt_T.S.I3 @ Feb 7 2004, 03:41 AM)
again..i am hmong.

a unknown ethic group icon_smile.gif

it looks there are a lot of homng people here too icon_wink.gif

anyways question, how do you pronounce 'hmong'?
junior high_rhapsody
Oh well...I'm a Malaysian...well, that's my nationality, but I'm a mixture of three races, namely: Chinese, Kayan and Bidayuh.
Shadowblade
wow...dats...a big mix....
Cevilgenius
QUOTE (junior high_rhapsody @ Feb 9 2004, 04:53 AM)
Oh well...I'm a Malaysian...well, that's my nationality, but I'm a mixture of three races, namely: Chinese, Kayan and Bidayuh.

What's Kayan and Bidayuh?
RiverPlate4Life
Korean.

Although I'm half Korean(father) and half Argentinean(mother)

Regardless, I consider myself more Korean as I don't know much about Argentina while I have some knowledge of Korea and the language. Besides I love Kim-chi, which automatically makes me Korean as no one other than Koreans can eat it. My old man took over raising me from my mom back in the day so I guess I'm more Korean.
JMAC
Im ASIAN....why divide? lets be united... icon_smile.gif
Shadowblade
yer....we're all azn....well most of us.....we should stick with each other!!!
junior high_rhapsody
Okay, most of you, I should think ALL of you are familiar with the Chinese race, but I understand if you do not know what those Kayan and Bidayuh mean. Kayan and Bidayuh are ethnic races found in the Borneo island. If you haven't heard of Kayan and Bidayuh, I'm sure you have heard of the term "Dayak", haven't you? The Kayan and Bidayuh (or else sometimes known as the Land Dayaks) are categorised in the Dayak group. The Kayans are again categorised in a sub-group called the Orang Ulu, which means the "Highland People", because they are mostly found in the highlands [eventhough now some have spread to the cities] and because of this, most of them possess very fair skin. I guess my explanation is quite confusing, don't you think so? embarassedlaugh.gif Anyway I hope you get the concept now.
karl kani
one more Korean here...
Shadowblade
lol....so how many does dat make?
KimberlyTia
I'm Eurasian...

My mother is full Viet
My father is Indonesian, Dutch, Filipino, and German
Kulong
QUOTE (KimberlyTia @ Feb 10 2004, 11:34 AM)
I'm Eurasian...

My mother is full Viet
My father is Indonesian, Dutch, Filipino, and German

What is "full" Viet? There are no "full" or "pure" people in the world. Everyone has a little mixture of something else. The Vietnamese people were formed when a couple tribes around the Red River basin banded together, or at least this is what some of the Vietnamese members on AF are claiming. The Han Chinese are also mixed of the Huaxia and Dongyi tribes. No one is "full" or "pure".
Cevilgenius
But I think "full" and "pure" refer to the mixes that have gone through enough time to be unique... icon_smile.gif
aznpeople
QUOTE
anyways question, how do you pronounce 'hmong'?



m-o-n-g :ghost:
Cevilgenius
I always thought it was Huh-Mong
aznpeople
QUOTE
I always thought it was Huh-Mong


HA!...not a bad try though but now you know
neways did you alredy get a new rank ?
Cevilgenius
What does that have to pertain to anything?

The things you learn here... mongs....
aznpeople
QUOTE
What does that have to pertain to anything?


Nevr mind then WHacko

neways i wonder if there are it Taiwan peoples here???
Cevilgenius
But isn't Taiwan people considered Chinese? Or at least ethnicity?
aznpeople
QUOTE
But isn't Taiwan people considered Chinese? Or at least ethnicity?


I dunno you tell me Genuis and then why would Taiwan have its own Nation then..if it was Chinese?
Cevilgenius
Hmm... I thought it was a colony of China... -shurg
aznpeople
MAybe i dunno ...ned to do som research then -shurg-
Kulong
I guess no one read my entry. I was born in Taipei, Taiwan and I am Chinese.

Han Chinese started migrating over to the island of Taiwan 500 years ago during the Ming dynasty. It was later incorporated into the Chinese Empire and made into a province.

In 1949, the Chinese civil war was over. The Nationalist lost and retreated to Taiwan and re-established the Republic of China there. The Communist established the People's Republic of China on mainland China.

ROC and PRC are two separate countries, just like South Korea and North Korea. However, because there is a "One China Policy", only one China would be recognized. Until the late 70's, ROC was recognized by the U.S. as China. But because PRC was growing strong, eventually PRC replaced ROC as China.

I won't get into the current politics of China and Taiwan, that is for another thread. Except for some few extremists, Taiwanese are considered Chinese, because we are all of the Han ethnic and came from the same cultural background. There is about 3% of the Taiwanese population that belongs to the aborignies of Taiwan though, who are not related to Chinese at all. So if you hear someone claiming they are "Taiwanese" and not Chinese, then you'd know they are an extremist who supports Taiwan Independence.
Cevilgenius
But politically Taiwan is under China's rule, right?
xiong
Hmong here
Kulong
QUOTE (Cevilgenius @ Feb 10 2004, 04:20 PM)
But politically Taiwan is under China's rule, right?

If by "China" you're refering to People's Republic of China, whose capital is in Beijing, then no.

Taiwan's government is located in Taipei, the capital of the Republic of China. Most people call Republic of China "Taiwan" for two reasons. One, the One China Policy states that there is only one China, and right now it's the government based in Beijing. Two, most people are ignorant of this situation and just call the ROC "Taiwan" because it's shorter and "others do it".

Well, there's actually a third reason, and that is there are some people who wish Taiwan to be "independent", which I find quite silly. By "Taiwan independence", they mean that they wish to establish a "Republic of Taiwan".

So to make sure it's clear icon_smile.gif

People's Republic of China
Capital: Beijing
Government of mainland China, Hong Kong, and Macau.

Republic of China
Capital: Taipei
Government of the island of Taiwan and surrounding smaller islands.
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