Just want to know since economic predictors said unified Korea would surely overtake Germany, France, Japan, etc..

Given the fact that Koreans are the superior race with the tallest men and the prettiest women
ya, of course
An united Korea will be able to colonize China with little problem
Quality is always more important than quantity
But first you have to find a way to unify your brethren
LMAO

Don't forget highest IQ, well known inventions from invention of heating system to sand molds, etc,gave civilization and introduce chinese culture to japan and Korean descendants made Japan, progenitors of Manchu, Khitan, etc... according to historical references.

I thought Hong Kong Chinese has highest IQ. Are you trolling?

Of course
Korea is the first human civilization and the longest surviving civilization in the world
They must be very Intelligent

No, by country, Koreans have the highest IQ.

Yes, according to 东北工程 sources.

Being the first human civilization does not make them intelligent.

Something is very fishy.

I can smell some Taiwanese Tabloid spread new anti Korean rumors.

Keep it up. I am going to ignore you from now on.

bye.

who are you going to ignore Mr "rvsp"

Actually Taiwan is first human civilization. Korea is just old, not first.

not you. the other ones.

I like your photo "A cat dancing"

AS one can clearly see Troll threads are still very much alive here on AF.

i smell alot of trolls, or alot of self righteous people..

anyways.

if the unification happens, i doubt it will happen anytime soon.

seeing as what has just recently happened between them

Off course, Koreans were the first people to colonize earth in the form of cyanobacteria migrated from the mars; Koreans have a 2 billion year history as both the rulers of the earth and the mars. The big bang was also Korean as the atom that started it was of Korean origin. One day Koreans will evolve into the Dr. Manhattan species and rule the universe in the name of Korea!!!

Koreans are the most excellent peoples

Yes, it is possible if Korean unification includes Taiwan (North Korea, South Korea, Taiwan).

Typical trolling.

Gatts is no longer moderating, so I expect the trolling to get worse.

Unified Korea will be Unified Korea and China will be China. Each will have different and cooperative role. No one's taking over anyone. Sounds like someone wants to see a wedge between countries in NE Asia. If Korea unifies in peaceful means and Unified Korea overcomes the initial chaos, NE Asia that is China, Russia, the new UK, Japan will be the most exciting, active, wealthy, stable, and peaceful region in the entire world.

I think he means economically. But the answer is still NO.

Ofcourse it can, if a techonology breakthrough that world consumers depend on, and if Korea has close to a monopoly access of it. Look at the UAE and their oil.

But considering the trend with no "world changing special events" its unlikely. China's resources, man power, growing infracsture etc.. is just overwhelming

Look at HongKong, somtimes referred as the "business hub" of East Asia.. with their money and arguably one of the highest living standards in EA (and even your highest IQ argument" , it will(if it didnt already) get outclassed by China

It'll be extremely difficult because Korea does not have as BIG of a market as China has. It's all about the scale of economy. What makes US such a Super big country? It's the sheer market size that's supporting the world. Now it's shifting slowly to China and India. Unified Korea will be one of the most advanced and important voice in NE Asia sure. But the biggest market it will not be. That will be China and India.

The economic cost of reunification of impoverished North Korea and (war-torn) South Korea will be enormous and will amount to trillions of dollars.

Guess who is presently the richest nation on Earth in terms of foreign currency reserves/current account surplus capitalization?????


South Korea will lure China with extra commercial investment incentives for China to use some of her $2.7 TRILLION dollar piggybank to rebuild a united Korea.

China will economically own united Korea using her $2.7 trillion dollar account surplus account.

depends on what u want to compare.
population size? magnitude of overall income? size of economy? cheap labor?

there are some things that korea can never be able to achieve simply becos the size is so much different.

there are also certain things that s.korea is already doing better, and for the same reason for china's success now, china is unlikely to surpass korea and other advanced countries for quite a period. the apparent wealth of the whole state or the wealth of some people does not translate to average wealth. and this takes time. and while china advanced, other countries do not stay stagnant too.

Sounds like trolling...

This is what you've posted at your sub-forum.
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=247546




So you know exactly what's going to happened to that $2.7 trillion dollar account surplus
I wish your country a best luck buying up Korean brides and feeding aged people with $2.7 trillion dollars saving

If South Korea and North Korea were reunited, China and Korea would mutually benefit.

People in both countries will travel by high speed train from Beijing to Seoul without visa. They will also talk more about travel plan and famous restaurants in both countries instead of political garbage. At least, that's what I am hoping.

I didn't know you can use foreign exchange reserves denominated in USD, Yen, Euro, etc.... to pay for medical-care and food for Chinese elderly people in RMB/Yuan (non-convertible currency).

Do you know how China's foreign exchange reserve/currency account surplus was accrue?

I didn't know Chinese elderly people saved in USD, Yen, and Euro.

Dumbass.

These foreign currency reserves is what is making China outcompete and outbid other nations in getting natural resources in S. America, Africa, Central Asia, Middle East, etc...

China uses $2.7 trillion dollar foreign reserves to buy US treasury bonds, which means China effectively owns the American debt.

Imagine China purchasing S. Korean treasury debt to finance reconstruction efforts. China will be America and united Korea's banker and largest creditor, effectively locking them into China's economic orbit clout even tighter.

For you guys who don't know, China owns $800 billion dollars of US treasury bonds, that came from China's $2.7 trillion foreign exchange reserves, which was built up from trade deficit with the US and other nations.

If S. Korea sells treasury bonds to help finance reconstruction of unified Korea, pretty much the only nation on Earth that has the power to respond that that amount of investment is China right now.

China helped Euro-zone with Greece, Portugal, and Spain treasury bond buy-out to help their economy from combusting, as well as United States bail-out (aka stimulus recovery act of 2008).

China is everyone's banker now-a-days.

Staight.

Mr. smarty pant, you're one very insecure Chinese.
Yes, China controls and owns everyone now

China need U.S consumer market otherwise what's need of these $800 billion U.S treasury bonds.
Why do you think China is so desperate to save U.S economy?

Why aren't Chinese government spending on their people?
They should also save their allies too: Pakistan, North Korea, Burma etc..

Doesn't India get most of her GDP growth (8-9% per annum) from mostly her domestic consumption of 1bn people?

Only reason why US won't tariff imports from China is because China can reciprocate by denying American firms access to a market of consumers 5 times the size of US population.

China has a market too, and can stimulate domestic consumption (like India) when export markets go bust.

Yes, and Americans are heavily dependent on China to subsidize their extravagant living standards and life style that should have ended post-1950 boom years, but is prolonged because of quality and good value products Made in China.

Go head and dilute your purchasing power by buying a $2000 Ipad that is Made in USA.

yeah and Rockefeller and Rothschilds along with the Anglo american establisment OWNS China.

Japan maybe, but Korea's not going to take over China.

And to whoever mentioned the IQ thing, don't forget that China's average IQ was 105 back in 2006, which is pretty amazing when it's GDP per capita is still quite low. As China climbs up, the national IQ IQ will rise as well.

Chinese who have high GDP per capita tend to be really smart, ie. Hong Kong and Singapore. Although Hong Kong is not a country and Singapore is small, you can't deny the fact that they do have the highest average IQ in the world. So when China gets to be as developed as Korea, I'm sure their average IQ will be higher than Korea's.

There's also an article that said that there was a special gene found only in ethnic Chinese that contributes to higher cognitive functioning or something like that. And with China's huge population, there are going to be tons of elites when China becomes developed. Just look at Hong Kong. It's so tiny, and yet, the richest man in East Asia is a Hong Kong dude called Li Ka Shing.

If Japan can then Korea can take over China.
HK & Singapore are just city states can't be comparable to other countries.

China will never become as developed as Korea/Japan. Sure, China may have elites in the future (even now), but what about the rest of the population? Elites will make up maybe 0.0001% of China's population. China's inflation rate has increased in recent times, and their population is struggling to find the money to feed themselves, even though its economy is still growing rapidly. An argument so commonly brought up to counter this is that the food in China is much cheaper than Korea/Japan. That is in non-relative terms. In relative terms, food is no cheaper in China than it is in Korea/Japan.

And IQ? Who gives a $hit when your IQ average is ONE point higher than another country? You need to stop discussing trivial things.

Anyway, a unified Korea will definitely have long-term benefits on the peninsula.

It is already.

not yet. it's on its way but still behind in many areas. Don't get too cocky. And Korea and Japan aren't just standing around... well maybe Japan at the moment due to incompetent leaders.

Really?
So you think $3000 GDP per capita seemed developed?
I thought only two countries from Asia are OECD members.

as developed as in japan/korea in terms of what? Technology? Korea and Japan dominates consumer tech, mundane everyday stuff. China towering both of them in military tech. Space, aerospace, jet, nuclear, etc... these tech are the pinnacle of all technologies, japan/korea are no where, no where even close to what China has.

In terms of average incomes, yes, china is behind, but won't be for too long. Not sure about Korea, but in merely 20 years, china has gone from 1/100th of average Taiwanese income to 1/10 today. it will only be another 20~30 years for china to overtake both taiwan and korea, and possibly another couple decades with the US.

FYI,
Chinese military tech < Russian military tech < U.S military tech, and Russia is still not even developed yet.
In 20~30 years, S.Korean average income will reach $80,000 according to forecast highest in Asia even over take Japan's.

Also, may be in space tech, but China still haven't over take Japan/S.Korea in aerospace, jet engine, nuclear tech. Much of China's military tech is still very much depended on Russia. Btw, wasn't Taiwan is not even a "country"? They have no formal recognition.

you kidding right? you obviously didn't read today's wallstreet journal on China's jet fighters.... Korea can't even produce airplane on its own, let alone jet fighters, wherera China has produced world class jet fighters for much of the past 30 years, and China's C919 passenger plane is scheduled to be off the assembly line by mid decade. The hirearchy of plane, jet engine technology is pretty much in the same order, china < russia < US. In terms of nuclear tech, Korea/Japan doesn't even have anything to show of, there's nothing japan/korea has that are remotely close to what Chinese have. Korea nuclear tech is at least 20 years behind China. Japan probably 10 years, china built its own nuclear plants, nuclear sub, bomb, Korea/japan can't build any of these on their own. I haven't even gotten started on Satellite, Rocket technology, Satellite and rocket tech only belong to the very very elite club consisting of only US, Russia, China and possibly France.

No, Taiwan is not a country, but it's income level is comparable to korea, so comparing them is equivalent to comparing with korea for the past 20 years.

SK produces assault helicopters and supersonic trainers but yeah, they haven't really put much focus on developing their own jet fighters. I don't know why you even said Korea and Japan can't build nuclear plants on their own when they are exporters of nuclear plants. They certainly do not have nuclear bombs but it's not like they can't build them if they want to. The reason is very obvious. As for the satellite and rocket tech, SK can produce communication and weather satellites on their own but they lag behind in rocket tech. Japan is up there with the few players in this though.

A unified Korea will not overtake China. China is projected to be the largest economy in the world by 2025 to 2035, larger than even the US or the EU.

I can see a unified Korea overtaking Japan though. Unless there are some geographic, demographic, and/or sociological changes, I can see a unified Korea topping out at #5 or #6 in the world, with China, India, Brazil, USA, and/or EU (depends on its unity) taking the spots before it.

Actually it's not accurate. China's technology is still very much reliant on Russian and is still pretty much behind Russian tech. Korea possess necessary tech for fighterjet but in terms of economy, it's not feasible for them to go into mass production. Overall, China is still behind and will be so in certain areas.

However, with that said, I do recognize that China excels in Space technology (it already is) and aerospace compared to Korea/Japan.
And due to internal demand, China will eventually have better technology in Commercial airliner, High speed Railroad, etc than Korea/Japan.
China will excel in high technology that involves mass amount of funds to develop, kinda like how US has so much money going into military and space tech.

However, that doesn't mean, China will excel in everything. Even today, though US excel in various sectors of technology, various countries in EU, Japan and Korea have better technology in other areas such as Shipbuilding, cars, biotech, nano-tech, green-tech etc. Likewise, while it is certain that China will be number one in certain sectors of technology, it won't dominate everything.

i do know of a field that countries like korea, taiwan and china will all be lagging behind of japan, with no likelihood of changes for perhaps at least another 20 years - camera and optics. this requires high precision technology so unless great efforts is made, it is hard to catch up.

I think Japan, Korea, and China all have something to brag about. East Asians are all highly intelligent, after all. I'm not going to bother talking about Taiwan since it'll be returned to China one day just like how HK is already returned to China, and just like how N.Korea will be unified with S.Korea one day.

But if you talk about overtaking, then tbh, Korea won't overtake China. I think Korea overtaking Japan is possible though.

But whatever the result, it's going to be East Asians anyway. Leave it to East Asians to overtake the whole world.

No one's taking over anyone. East Asia or not, no amount of influence will challenge the sovereignty of a nation. And unless the country is really backward or corrupt and lagging behind progress, they will find a way to stand on their own feet no matter who comes to super power.

Simple, Korea will overtake China, if Korea takes back Manchuria.