I wonder if there is a book, that deeply and generally discussed, and whose focused is to elaborate, and merge all the details, stories, histories, and writings about our pre-colonial times..
I have read several blogs about this topic but I'm looking for a book that merge it all..
Some interesting topics:
- Ancient Kingdoms and City Stated of the Philippines
- Notable and well known rulers
- Ancient Heroes (like Datu Puti and his comrades of Ten Datu's, Princess Urduja of Kingdom of Tawalisi)
- Ancient Education, Goverment System, Architecture, Tradings
- Ancient Relics like the manunggul jar (unrivaled in SEA), the Gold Craftmanship of our ancestors (the most sophisticated in the world)
- and many more...
a book that merge it all..? yes that would be rare
not what your looking for('cause this one is only a few pages).. but books similar to this right?..
http://books.google.com/books?id=pLLXbwAACAAJ
have you tried any library?
the knowledge of our history keeps changing too... just a few months ago... the country's first human settlement was pushed to at least 67,000 BP.. making it the oldest human fossil in the Far East & Pacific Rim Region
not what your looking for('cause this one is only a few pages).. but books similar to this right?..
http://books.google.com/books?id=pLLXbwAACAAJ
have you tried any library?
the knowledge of our history keeps changing too... just a few months ago... the country's first human settlement was pushed to at least 67,000 BP.. making it the oldest human fossil in the Far East & Pacific Rim Region
QUOTE (gisingpilipinas @ Dec 23 2010, 02:43 AM) 
I wonder if there is a book, that deeply and generally discussed, and whose focused is to elaborate, and merge all the details, stories, histories, and writings about our pre-colonial times..
I have read several blogs about this topic but I'm looking for a book that merge it all..
Some interesting topics:
- Ancient Kingdoms and City Stated of the Philippines
- Notable and well known rulers
- Ancient Heroes (like Datu Puti and his comrades of Ten Datu's, Princess Urduja of Kingdom of Tawalisi)
- Ancient Education, Goverment System, Architecture, Tradings
- Ancient Relics like the manunggul jar (unrivaled in SEA), the Gold Craftmanship of our ancestors (the most sophisticated in the world)
- and many more...
I have read several blogs about this topic but I'm looking for a book that merge it all..
Some interesting topics:
- Ancient Kingdoms and City Stated of the Philippines
- Notable and well known rulers
- Ancient Heroes (like Datu Puti and his comrades of Ten Datu's, Princess Urduja of Kingdom of Tawalisi)
- Ancient Education, Goverment System, Architecture, Tradings
- Ancient Relics like the manunggul jar (unrivaled in SEA), the Gold Craftmanship of our ancestors (the most sophisticated in the world)
- and many more...
Most of it has been lost.
Our ancestors wrote in bamboo sticks, would've been gone after 600 years. Our ancestors passed down knowledge mainly through word of mouth.
Our ancestors were not like the Ancient Egyptians who wrote many of their knowledge on Stone, Gold, on Walls, or Papyrus (which would've still easily been gone after thousands, few have survived). Nor did our ancestors build magnificent statues or houses.
The colonization of the Spaniards also made it difficult, everything started to be written in Spanish, and by the time the Americans occupied the Philippines they already bombed many of the Spanish archives in Intramuros.
Now today many of those Spanish or pre-Hispanic documents are lost or not readable due to lack of education in ancient languages such as Sanskrit or Spanish.
Hopes of digging and finding more Gold pamphlets which would still survive to this day, where many of the rich wrote documents during the pre-Hispanic times is unlikely with the extremely insufficient funding of the Government.
Many provinces such as Cebu and Davao hold many pre-Hispanic treasures but the archeologists are 99% of the time unfunded and often have to rely on their small amounts of pesos to recover anything.
Thanks for the reply.. but I still dearly hope that the day will come that every Filipino will know about their glorious past.. a part from the Spanish, Americans and Chinese.. We are Filipinos and we should stand out as Filipinos!
QUOTE (gisingpilipinas @ Dec 29 2010, 09:22 PM)
Thanks for the reply.. but I still dearly hope that the day will come that every Filipino will know about their glorious past.. a part from the Spanish, Americans and Chinese.. We are Filipinos and we should stand out as Filipinos!
There is no book yet covering all those interesting topics you have enumerated.
I have posted a thread about our Glorious Past... http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437263
Our ancestors wore magnificent dresses and magnificent Gold jewelries and had magnificent gold gilded houses(especially among the Maguinoos/Principalias/kingly and Maharlika/warrior classes). They were all erased by the coming of the western colonizers and even before that by Islamic proselytization and Pinatubo eruption during the 14th century and for what invasions that came even before those.
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Laguna copperplate inscription, Boxer Codex, the Butuan trading vessels or Surigao treasures like the Upavita, as well as many others are proof.
QUOTE (trismegistos @ Jan 1 2011, 07:38 PM)
There is no book yet covering all those interesting topics you have enumerated.
I have posted a thread about our Glorious Past... http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437263
Our ancestors wore magnificent dresses and magnificent Gold jewelries and had magnificent gold gilded houses(especially among the Maguinoos/Principalias/kingly and Maharlika/warrior classes). They were all erased by the coming of the western colonizers and even before that by Islamic proselytization and Pinatubo eruption during the 14th century and for what invasions that came even before those.
/
Laguna copperplate inscription, Boxer Codex, the Butuan trading vessels or Surigao treasures like the Upavita, as well as many others are proof.
I have posted a thread about our Glorious Past... http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=437263
Our ancestors wore magnificent dresses and magnificent Gold jewelries and had magnificent gold gilded houses(especially among the Maguinoos/Principalias/kingly and Maharlika/warrior classes). They were all erased by the coming of the western colonizers and even before that by Islamic proselytization and Pinatubo eruption during the 14th century and for what invasions that came even before those.
/
Laguna copperplate inscription, Boxer Codex, the Butuan trading vessels or Surigao treasures like the Upavita, as well as many others are proof.
Sorry you pointed out Principalia, that's a Spanish colonization product.
Also Gold Gilded Houses and Maginficent Dresses/Maginificent Gold Jewelries only applied to the Nobles which made up a small percentage of the population.
The majority were mostly Animists and wore bahag, and had tattooes all over their bodies. The majority of the population were literate in their native languages and could read and write.
Islam was never widespread in the Philippines save for some parts of Mindanao.
The Nobles were the ones dressed in silk robes and gold with gilded houses, they made up a very small portion of the population. Also the Nobles either practiced Buddhism or Islam, and were educated in both their respective native languages and also Sanskrit.
You have to remember, the Philippines was never a country where the majority of the population were richly dressed folks in gold and ivory accesories. That's a myth started by Filipinos that glorified pre-Hispanic Philippines and demonized the Hispanicism. Like today, the poor were dressed in bahag and the rich were draped in luxury. Nothing has changed.
All of these accounts can be credited to the Italian explorer Antonio Pigafetta who was one of the surviving men in Magellan's crew.
The Principalias of the Spanish period were just as wealthy.
The proper way of addressing our ancestors:
QUOTE
They were well educated, intelligent and literate people with a well developed writing system and language. They were great story tellers. They respected everything that is from nature. They traded with countries like China. They wore loincloths or were naked, or wore some sort of draped clothing. The men were tattooed, the women wore some sort of skirt but their breasts were bare and they practiced Animism.
Only the nobles wore and could afford robes, they were well educated and literate in their native language as well as Sanskrit. They wore accesories made of precious metals such as gold. They did not practice Animism like the majority but instead Buddhism which were brought by the China or Islam brought from the South.
Only the nobles wore and could afford robes, they were well educated and literate in their native language as well as Sanskrit. They wore accesories made of precious metals such as gold. They did not practice Animism like the majority but instead Buddhism which were brought by the China or Islam brought from the South.
QUOTE (LazyAzian @ Jan 3 2011, 11:58 AM)
Sorry you pointed out Principalia, that's a Spanish colonization product.
Also Gold Gilded Houses and Maginficent Dresses/Maginificent Gold Jewelries only applied to the Nobles which made up a small percentage of the population.
The majority were mostly Animists and wore bahag, and had tattooes all over their bodies. The majority of the population were literate in their native languages and could read and write.
Islam was never widespread in the Philippines save for some parts of Mindanao.
The Nobles were the ones dressed in silk robes and gold with gilded houses, they made up a very small portion of the population. Also the Nobles either practiced Buddhism or Islam, and were educated in both their respective native languages and also Sanskrit.
You have to remember, the Philippines was never a country where the majority of the population were richly dressed folks in gold and ivory accesories. That's a myth started by Filipinos that glorified pre-Hispanic Philippines and demonized the Hispanicism. Like today, the poor were dressed in bahag and the rich were draped in luxury. Nothing has changed.
All of these accounts can be credited to the Italian explorer Antonio Pigafetta who was one of the surviving men in Magellan's crew.
The Principalias of the Spanish period were just as wealthy.
The proper way of addressing our ancestors:
Also Gold Gilded Houses and Maginficent Dresses/Maginificent Gold Jewelries only applied to the Nobles which made up a small percentage of the population.
The majority were mostly Animists and wore bahag, and had tattooes all over their bodies. The majority of the population were literate in their native languages and could read and write.
Islam was never widespread in the Philippines save for some parts of Mindanao.
The Nobles were the ones dressed in silk robes and gold with gilded houses, they made up a very small portion of the population. Also the Nobles either practiced Buddhism or Islam, and were educated in both their respective native languages and also Sanskrit.
You have to remember, the Philippines was never a country where the majority of the population were richly dressed folks in gold and ivory accesories. That's a myth started by Filipinos that glorified pre-Hispanic Philippines and demonized the Hispanicism. Like today, the poor were dressed in bahag and the rich were draped in luxury. Nothing has changed.
All of these accounts can be credited to the Italian explorer Antonio Pigafetta who was one of the surviving men in Magellan's crew.
The Principalias of the Spanish period were just as wealthy.
The proper way of addressing our ancestors:
Yes, Principalia is a Spanish terminology for the native word Maguinoo, our native elite class. The Rajas and datus or the rulers of before became to be designated as the Principalia class assuming the title of Dons and most became encomenderos after giving exemplary service to the Spanish crown like Don Carlos Lacandola and Don Dionisio Capulong.
The Spaniards spoke of Moro settlements of Betis, Lubao, Batan, Meycauayan, Manila, Mindoro, Batangas etc. Read Miguel de Loarca documents. If you look at the first census done, the Moro populations were significant in numbers. I think there is only a partial Islamicization in these areas as abated by the coming of the Spaniards but given more years of Proselytization it would probably spread to other areas and be completely Islamicized as our neighboring countries. Whether that be a good thing will be debatable depending on one's bias or religion.
Wearing loin cloths by some tribes like the Pintados, Zambals and Negritos was of physiological import because of the humid and hot weather. But the Moros of Luzon, native traders, maharlika/warrior class and ofcourse the maguinoo class wore silk, cotton dresses that they were mistaken as Chinamen. They wore the same clothing as the Moros of Brunei. In fact they were mistaken as one people with the Bruneian moros.
Wearing of tatoos was among the Pintados like Raja Humabon whom Pigafetta met.
The Boxer Codex is a fairly accurate rendition.
if the Spaniard did not came, Islam could be the dominant religion in the Philippines. As a matter of fact, Rajah Sulayman (Ruler of Manila) and/or Tarik Sulayman were Muslims. And it clearly states that Islam was widely spread at that time even in Luzon. We could be like our neighbors and Malayan brothers like Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia that the dominant religion is Islam if not for the arrival of the Spaniards. As a matter of fact again, we are under Brunei as a vassal state when the spaniards came. This happened after Sultan Bolkiah of Brunei invaded Manila during the 14th century.
I agree with trismegiritos stating that the Negritos, aetas and other tribes were the ones "majorly" wearing the bahags or being naked, And this tribes were not the dominating tribes during the time of Lakandula and Sulayman.
The sulaymans and the macabebe's and even Lakandula and his Kingdom could be wearing the typical Hindu-Buddhist-Islamic-malayan attire for them being connected to the Islam world and our brothers in South East Asia.
It is important to note that the Philippines was populated by different race, tribes, Kingdoms, City-States and class of people because of the Theory of Migration that brought to the Philippines the Aetas, Negrito's and later the Malays that which became the dominant tribes during the later part of our pre-hispanic times.
So it is not right to quote and GENERALLY speak of the ancient Filipinos as people who are wearing bahags, being naked and Pintados. Though we cannot take it away from our History and our inheritance, but we should also note that there is also some Ancient Philippine Kingdoms coming from SriVijayan and Majapahit empires that are more advance than the Negritos, Aetas, etc. that they drove this tribes away to the Highlands (though some intermarried to them) and were the dominant race during the later part of our PreHispanic History.
During the Paris Exposition, Rizal was saddened after seeing an exhibit about the Philippines that shows Aetas/Negritos wearing a bahag, half naked and was hunting. Rizal was saddened about this view of the Philippines knowing that it is not the best and probably the right way to exposed Philippines in the world. He knows that the Filipino people was not just a people who wear bahag or naked and uncivilized people, but Filipinos was the mixture of different asian cultures through malays, aborigines, Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Arab and also spanish people.
Laguna Copperplate Inscription, dated from 900AD clearly provide evidence about the Philippines particularly Kingdom of Tondo, Baliwag, Pulilan, Macabebe, Butuan being connected to other South East Asian Kingdoms and Empires particularly Sri Vijaya and Majapahit.
The Spaniards was amazed in the Gold of our ancestors particularly in the Kingdom of Butuan after seeing our ancestors wearing gold jewelries and clothing from head to feet. (this was stated in Antonio Pigafetta's writings during his travel with Magellan) Even other ancient documents local and foreign, discussed about the trade connection of Ancient Philippines to other Asian countries (China, Sri Vijaya, Majapahit, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam etc.)
The idea stating that Ancient Philippines was nothing but a collection of uncivilized, pagan and animist people etc. was just a an invention of the colonizers to rob us of our rich and glorious culture and history for them to continually colonized us, and for us to forget who we really are, that we may be forever subservient to them.
It's good that we are continually digging and searching our past, for the next generation, that we may recover our history and that we may know who we really are, as being apart and equal from other cultures and races, as we are created by GOD equally with each other and according to his image that he purposedly created our race our nation and our culture, and he created us to be Filipinos and he placed us to this part of the earth and in our country the Philippines according to his plans and purpose!
I agree with trismegiritos stating that the Negritos, aetas and other tribes were the ones "majorly" wearing the bahags or being naked, And this tribes were not the dominating tribes during the time of Lakandula and Sulayman.
The sulaymans and the macabebe's and even Lakandula and his Kingdom could be wearing the typical Hindu-Buddhist-Islamic-malayan attire for them being connected to the Islam world and our brothers in South East Asia.
It is important to note that the Philippines was populated by different race, tribes, Kingdoms, City-States and class of people because of the Theory of Migration that brought to the Philippines the Aetas, Negrito's and later the Malays that which became the dominant tribes during the later part of our pre-hispanic times.
So it is not right to quote and GENERALLY speak of the ancient Filipinos as people who are wearing bahags, being naked and Pintados. Though we cannot take it away from our History and our inheritance, but we should also note that there is also some Ancient Philippine Kingdoms coming from SriVijayan and Majapahit empires that are more advance than the Negritos, Aetas, etc. that they drove this tribes away to the Highlands (though some intermarried to them) and were the dominant race during the later part of our PreHispanic History.
During the Paris Exposition, Rizal was saddened after seeing an exhibit about the Philippines that shows Aetas/Negritos wearing a bahag, half naked and was hunting. Rizal was saddened about this view of the Philippines knowing that it is not the best and probably the right way to exposed Philippines in the world. He knows that the Filipino people was not just a people who wear bahag or naked and uncivilized people, but Filipinos was the mixture of different asian cultures through malays, aborigines, Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Arab and also spanish people.
Laguna Copperplate Inscription, dated from 900AD clearly provide evidence about the Philippines particularly Kingdom of Tondo, Baliwag, Pulilan, Macabebe, Butuan being connected to other South East Asian Kingdoms and Empires particularly Sri Vijaya and Majapahit.
The Spaniards was amazed in the Gold of our ancestors particularly in the Kingdom of Butuan after seeing our ancestors wearing gold jewelries and clothing from head to feet. (this was stated in Antonio Pigafetta's writings during his travel with Magellan) Even other ancient documents local and foreign, discussed about the trade connection of Ancient Philippines to other Asian countries (China, Sri Vijaya, Majapahit, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam etc.)
The idea stating that Ancient Philippines was nothing but a collection of uncivilized, pagan and animist people etc. was just a an invention of the colonizers to rob us of our rich and glorious culture and history for them to continually colonized us, and for us to forget who we really are, that we may be forever subservient to them.
It's good that we are continually digging and searching our past, for the next generation, that we may recover our history and that we may know who we really are, as being apart and equal from other cultures and races, as we are created by GOD equally with each other and according to his image that he purposedly created our race our nation and our culture, and he created us to be Filipinos and he placed us to this part of the earth and in our country the Philippines according to his plans and purpose!
QUOTE (gisingpilipinas @ Jan 4 2011, 12:20 AM)
if the Spaniard did not came, Islam could be the dominant religion in the Philippines. As a matter of fact, Rajah Sulayman (Ruler of Manila) and/or Tarik Sulayman were Muslims. And it clearly states that Islam was widely spread at that time even in Luzon. We could be like our neighbors and Malayan brothers like Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia that the dominant religion is Islam if not for the arrival of the Spaniards. As a matter of fact again, we are under Brunei as a vassal state when the spaniards came. This happened after Sultan Bolkiah of Brunei invaded Manila during the 14th century.
I agree with trismegiritos stating that the Negritos, aetas and other tribes were the ones "majorly" wearing the bahags or being naked, And this tribes were not the dominating tribes during the time of Lakandula and Sulayman.
The sulaymans and the macabebe's and even Lakandula and his Kingdom could be wearing the typical Hindu-Buddhist-Islamic-malayan attire for them being connected to the Islam world and our brothers in South East Asia.
It is important to note that the Philippines was populated by different race, tribes, Kingdoms, City-States and class of people because of the Theory of Migration that brought to the Philippines the Aetas, Negrito's and later the Malays that which became the dominant tribes during the later part of our pre-hispanic times.
So it is not right to quote and GENERALLY speak of the ancient Filipinos as people who are wearing bahags, being naked and Pintados. Though we cannot take it away from our History and our inheritance, but we should also note that there is also some Ancient Philippine Kingdoms coming from SriVijayan and Majapahit empires that are more advance than the Negritos, Aetas, etc. that they drove this tribes away to the Highlands (though some intermarried to them) and were the dominant race during the later part of our PreHispanic History.
During the Paris Exposition, Rizal was saddened after seeing an exhibit about the Philippines that shows Aetas/Negritos wearing a bahag, half naked and was hunting. Rizal was saddened about this view of the Philippines knowing that it is not the best and probably the right way to exposed Philippines in the world. He knows that the Filipino people was not just a people who wear bahag or naked and uncivilized people, but Filipinos was the mixture of different asian cultures through malays, aborigines, Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Arab and also spanish people.
Laguna Copperplate Inscription, dated from 900AD clearly provide evidence about the Philippines particularly Kingdom of Tondo, Baliwag, Pulilan, Macabebe, Butuan being connected to other South East Asian Kingdoms and Empires particularly Sri Vijaya and Majapahit.
The Spaniards was amazed in the Gold of our ancestors particularly in the Kingdom of Butuan after seeing our ancestors wearing gold jewelries and clothing from head to feet. (this was stated in Antonio Pigafetta's writings during his travel with Magellan) Even other ancient documents local and foreign, discussed about the trade connection of Ancient Philippines to other Asian countries (China, Sri Vijaya, Majapahit, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam etc.)
The idea stating that Ancient Philippines was nothing but a collection of uncivilized, pagan and animist people etc. was just a an invention of the colonizers to rob us of our rich and glorious culture and history for them to continually colonized us, and for us to forget who we really are, that we may be forever subservient to them.
It's good that we are continually digging and searching our past, for the next generation, that we may recover our history and that we may know who we really are, as being apart and equal from other cultures and races, as we are created by GOD equally with each other and according to his image that he purposedly created our race our nation and our culture, and he created us to be Filipinos and he placed us to this part of the earth and in our country the Philippines according to his plans and purpose!
I agree with trismegiritos stating that the Negritos, aetas and other tribes were the ones "majorly" wearing the bahags or being naked, And this tribes were not the dominating tribes during the time of Lakandula and Sulayman.
The sulaymans and the macabebe's and even Lakandula and his Kingdom could be wearing the typical Hindu-Buddhist-Islamic-malayan attire for them being connected to the Islam world and our brothers in South East Asia.
It is important to note that the Philippines was populated by different race, tribes, Kingdoms, City-States and class of people because of the Theory of Migration that brought to the Philippines the Aetas, Negrito's and later the Malays that which became the dominant tribes during the later part of our pre-hispanic times.
So it is not right to quote and GENERALLY speak of the ancient Filipinos as people who are wearing bahags, being naked and Pintados. Though we cannot take it away from our History and our inheritance, but we should also note that there is also some Ancient Philippine Kingdoms coming from SriVijayan and Majapahit empires that are more advance than the Negritos, Aetas, etc. that they drove this tribes away to the Highlands (though some intermarried to them) and were the dominant race during the later part of our PreHispanic History.
During the Paris Exposition, Rizal was saddened after seeing an exhibit about the Philippines that shows Aetas/Negritos wearing a bahag, half naked and was hunting. Rizal was saddened about this view of the Philippines knowing that it is not the best and probably the right way to exposed Philippines in the world. He knows that the Filipino people was not just a people who wear bahag or naked and uncivilized people, but Filipinos was the mixture of different asian cultures through malays, aborigines, Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Arab and also spanish people.
Laguna Copperplate Inscription, dated from 900AD clearly provide evidence about the Philippines particularly Kingdom of Tondo, Baliwag, Pulilan, Macabebe, Butuan being connected to other South East Asian Kingdoms and Empires particularly Sri Vijaya and Majapahit.
The Spaniards was amazed in the Gold of our ancestors particularly in the Kingdom of Butuan after seeing our ancestors wearing gold jewelries and clothing from head to feet. (this was stated in Antonio Pigafetta's writings during his travel with Magellan) Even other ancient documents local and foreign, discussed about the trade connection of Ancient Philippines to other Asian countries (China, Sri Vijaya, Majapahit, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam etc.)
The idea stating that Ancient Philippines was nothing but a collection of uncivilized, pagan and animist people etc. was just a an invention of the colonizers to rob us of our rich and glorious culture and history for them to continually colonized us, and for us to forget who we really are, that we may be forever subservient to them.
It's good that we are continually digging and searching our past, for the next generation, that we may recover our history and that we may know who we really are, as being apart and equal from other cultures and races, as we are created by GOD equally with each other and according to his image that he purposedly created our race our nation and our culture, and he created us to be Filipinos and he placed us to this part of the earth and in our country the Philippines according to his plans and purpose!
For the longest time, I thought there was no such thing as an anthropology or archaeology or linguistic department in the Philippines. No one was writing down anything in the books about our pre-Hispanic past, but only scant information. I know now that there is an effort, but we're only in the beginning stages, and I guess that's okay. And I think us amateurs are doing our job combing the libraries and internet, creating websites, sharing and discussing in forums, documenting our family histories, practicing our traditions, and personal observations of our own people and places especially in the provinces that we come from.
QUOTE (Prau123 @ Jan 5 2011, 09:40 AM)
For the longest time, I thought there was no such thing as an anthropology or archaeology or linguistic department in the Philippines. No one was writing down anything in the books about our pre-Hispanic past, but only scant information. I know now that there is an effort, but we're only in the beginning stages, and I guess that's okay. And I think us amateurs are doing our job combing the libraries and internet, creating websites, sharing and discussing in forums, documenting our family histories, practicing our traditions, and personal observations of our own people and places especially in the provinces that we come from.
One of the things I'd do if I were filthy rich would be to fund archaeological expeditions in this country! There's just too much blank spots in our history that need to be filled out!
QUOTE (mrconfusion87 @ Feb 3 2011, 02:16 PM)
One of the things I'd do if I were filthy rich would be to fund archaeological expeditions in this country! There's just too much blank spots in our history that need to be filled out!
yeah.. that will be good.. That blank spots should be filled and supported by real documents and artifacts. There was a time though that some part of me was dreaming to be an archaelogist, a National Treasure Hunter (just like Nicolas Cage. LOL), that I could unearth, dig out and discover many valuable artifacts and treasure that could help us fill those blanks. Just like the Butuan treasures (some of which was in Ayala Museum), Manunggul Jar, Laguna Copperplate Inscription, Boxer Codex, butuan balangay, etc etc.. The Glorious pre-Hispanic Philippines.
I bet there's many people here in Pinoy Chat that would happily accompany me in that adventure
QUOTE (EhLhIAhS @ Feb 4 2011, 02:30 AM)
yeah.. that will be good.. That blank spots should be filled and supported by real documents and artifacts. There was a time though that some part of me was dreaming to be an archaelogist, a National Treasure Hunter (just like Nicolas Cage. LOL), that I could unearth, dig out and discover many valuable artifacts and treasure that could help us fill those blanks. Just like the Butuan treasures (some of which was in Ayala Museum), Manunggul Jar, Laguna Copperplate Inscription, Boxer Codex, butuan balangay, etc etc.. The Glorious pre-Hispanic Philippines.
I've seen the gold collection at the Ayala Museum.... very very very beautiful collection
it really made me even more proud of our ancestors.
QUOTE
I bet there's many people here in Pinoy Chat that would happily accompany me in that adventure
Even if I have to spend my last penny
^do we even still use the penny?... isang sentimo? lol
QUOTE (mrconfusion87 @ Feb 3 2011, 01:16 PM)
One of the things I'd do if I were filthy rich would be to fund archaeological expeditions in this country! There's just too much blank spots in our history that need to be filled out!
haha i dreamt of being one too. but i dont have cash and the goevernemnt doesnt pay for archeaology. - it cant even pay for good basic education.
most of our history would also be oral in nature. unfortunately nobody is recording the history and its dying out {literally - the ones who know it are dying and the next generation doesnt have time or the motivation to learn it}.
most of artifacts would probably be in gold and metals and not stone. the metalssmiths and the jewellerds of the ancient kingdoms of butuan and the panday's of the other kingdoms were very good {remember panday pira?}
unfortunately metals like gold and copper are precious commodities and would have been melted and reused by the spanish. Also - why did the spaniards though of conquering us - it was for the gold....
our writing materials/and gold leaf manuscriots and copper plates probably got turned into spanish bullion or sumthing.
cathloic priests also had the habit of building churches over pagan religious sites or their building. we have lots of old stone churches and it might help if you start wondering where they got all the stone?
I also sense frustration about this lack of information about our pre-colonial ancestors that the mainstream educational system seems to lack in providing enough attention to it. Instead I decided to do my personal research, especially that this is now the information Age with the Internet at our fingertips. Amazing discoveries I had found.
kindly visit my blog intended to post my personal researches to share with similarly interested individuals, especially awakening the Maharlikan in them:
http://www.maharlikan.blogspot.com
kindly visit my blog intended to post my personal researches to share with similarly interested individuals, especially awakening the Maharlikan in them:
http://www.maharlikan.blogspot.com
I like this topic in history as well, perhaps might really help us Filipinos to find our true identity and dismiss the notion that we are in fact Pacific Islanders (as claimed by some of our Fil-Am pals), thank God Filipinos in the Philippines barely knows about that "Pacific Islander" crap.
I wish more recent findings about our pre-colonial civilization, ancient kingdoms and kings, more artifacts and perhaps inscriptions (like the Rizal stone which was discovered this year). And I wish history teachers in our schools would teach us more about pre-colonial culture, back then, they only thought us about the migration of Malays, Indones, Negritos and then skips to Magellan's time.
Im sorry but the claims that link us to mythological crap like Lemuria or origins of mankind seems like a joke to me.
I wish more recent findings about our pre-colonial civilization, ancient kingdoms and kings, more artifacts and perhaps inscriptions (like the Rizal stone which was discovered this year). And I wish history teachers in our schools would teach us more about pre-colonial culture, back then, they only thought us about the migration of Malays, Indones, Negritos and then skips to Magellan's time.
Im sorry but the claims that link us to mythological crap like Lemuria or origins of mankind seems like a joke to me.
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