Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 01:29 PM
QUOTE
"Filipinos" was a term used during the spanish regime to refer to the insulares, or pure-blooded spaniards born in the philippines, who were deemed inferior to those born in spain, the peninsulares. tires of being inferior, they began carving a new identity... they started calling themselves "filipinos". and as we probably all now, except for those who don't value history, that natives were invariably called "indios"...
I'm curious, what's your opinion about our country being named after a Spanish King and our people being called "Filipinos", whereas, the original meaning of it referred to the Spaniards born in the Philippines?
JMAC
Dec 17 2004, 01:39 PM
it does have a negative meaning because of the history but pondering and stressing about it is pretty useless.
We shouldn't care about the old 'intended' meaning but we should care more about the people who gave it the real meaning of being Filipino.
PervertBurger
Dec 17 2004, 01:42 PM
Exactly. Theres not much you can do about it now.
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 01:55 PM
I do not have any problem with it. It's history. I'm just wondering why some people are thinking "the old-fashioned" way.
I brought up this topic because I was surfing the gov.ph forum and almost all of them are complaining...
If we're not "Filipinos" what are we then? Ano kaya itatawag sa atin?
Fil-Am
Dec 17 2004, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (Kanlungan @ Dec 17 2004, 02:55 PM)
I do not have any problem with it. It's history. I'm just wondering why some people are thinking "the old-fashioned" way.
I brought up this topic because I was surfing the gov.ph forum and almost all of them are complaining...
If we're not "Filipinos" what are we then? Ano kaya itatawag sa atin?
I don't look at the name filipino in an bad way. Filipinos will never advance if we keep on moping around in the past. I don't care if thats what you called spaniards back then. I see myself as filipino and thats that.
JMAC
Dec 17 2004, 01:58 PM
QUOTE (Kanlungan @ Dec 17 2004, 03:55 PM)
I do not have any problem with it. It's history. I'm just wondering why some people are thinking "the old-fashioned" way.
I brought up this topic because I was surfing the gov.ph forum and almost all of them are complaining...
If we're not "Filipinos" what are we then? Ano kaya itatawag sa atin?
whats the url of the forum??
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 02:08 PM
Fil-Am
Dec 17 2004, 02:23 PM
QUOTE (Kanlungan @ Dec 17 2004, 03:08 PM)
LOL on the second link I actually posted there. Don't even bother with those people on EAN. They said I was lying when I told them about the Phil-Am war. And they said that I was being ungrateful to the US for singlehandedly freeing the Phils. from Spain.
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 02:30 PM
They know less about the Phil. Hist.
maybe those peeps in EA see the Phil-Am war as plain insurgency... How could it be an insurgency when it was an American soldier who started it all by shooting a Filipino?! Hmmp.
Fil-Am
Dec 17 2004, 02:51 PM
QUOTE (Kanlungan @ Dec 17 2004, 03:30 PM)
They know less about the Phil. Hist.
maybe those peeps in EA see the Phil-Am war as plain insurgency... How could it be an insurgency when it was an American soldier who started it all by shooting a Filipino?! Hmmp.
They even talked about turning the Philippines into an homeland for Eurasians.
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 03:00 PM
They think that the Philippines is interesting
They also think that Filipinos are interesting
They always talk about us... They find us interesting.
It seems to me that most of EA are not part-Filipinos?
LOL.
Fil-Am
Dec 17 2004, 03:02 PM
QUOTE (Kanlungan @ Dec 17 2004, 04:00 PM)
They think that the Philippines is interesting
They also think that Filipinos are interesting
They always talk about us... They find us interesting.
It seems to me that most of EA are not part-Filipinos?
LOL.
Most of the fil-EAs there don't see themselves as the same with us.
You should visit this forum, its an fil-am forum.
http://www.filipino.us/forum/index.php
item1702
Dec 17 2004, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (JMAC @ Dec 17 2004, 02:39 PM)
it does have a negative meaning because of the history but pondering and stressing about it is pretty useless.
We shouldn't care about the old 'intended' meaning but we should care more about the people who gave it the real meaning of being Filipino.
Well said.
One of those guys in the gov.ph forum sounds like Dalawapo.
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Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 03:15 PM
QUOTE (item1702 @ Dec 18 2004, 05:09 AM)
QUOTE (JMAC @ Dec 17 2004, 02:39 PM)
it does have a negative meaning because of the history but pondering and stressing about it is pretty useless.
We shouldn't care about the old 'intended' meaning but we should care more about the people who gave it the real meaning of being Filipino.
Well said.
One of those guys in the gov.ph forum sounds like Dalawapo.
2
Not only in the gov.ph forum, but also in the EA forum. "Maldito" sounds like Dalawapo.. LOL. Who knows?
Fil-Am
Dec 17 2004, 03:17 PM
QUOTE (Kanlungan @ Dec 17 2004, 04:15 PM)
QUOTE (item1702 @ Dec 18 2004, 05:09 AM)
QUOTE (JMAC @ Dec 17 2004, 02:39 PM)
it does have a negative meaning because of the history but pondering and stressing about it is pretty useless.
We shouldn't care about the old 'intended' meaning but we should care more about the people who gave it the real meaning of being Filipino.
Well said.
One of those guys in the gov.ph forum sounds like Dalawapo.
2
Not only in the gov.ph forum, but also in the EA forum. "Maldito" sounds like Dalawapo.. LOL. Who knows?
Maldito isn't Dalawapo, I know that guy. I used to chat with him on another forum.
He's like half-filipino and half-hawiian. And he doesn't have the same views as Dalawapo.
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 03:21 PM
I see, but I've read a post of "Maldito" in Livejournal...(forgot the community) and he sounded like Dalawapo(except that Dalawapo sounds very childish)
BTW, Is this true about the Sorianos?
http://www.filipino.us/forum/index.php?topic=629.0QUOTE
If Filipinos would just accept them as Filipinos and not.. Spanish Filipinos or whatever the hell they think. It's okay to be "just" Filipino. There's nothing wrong with it. I went to school with a bunch of kids from the Soriano family and they swore by the Holy Bible that they were Spanish and nothing of Filipino blood. Because this family was so rich and well known in many parts of the Philippines, people actually believed they were Spanish and not Filipinos. In actuality, they ARE Filipinos with yes, some Spanish. It just drove me nuts how they thought being Spaniard marked up their value to that of being Filipino. What, ever.
Ek-ek
Dec 17 2004, 03:51 PM
Maldito is different .
I saw dalawapo yesterday in this chat
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 03:57 PM
Did he post? I usually see him in the active users
Ek-ek
Dec 17 2004, 04:00 PM
No he is just browsing.
item1702
Dec 17 2004, 04:02 PM
QUOTE (Ek-ek @ Dec 17 2004, 05:00 PM)
2 It sounds as if everyone now has become Dalawapo stalkers.
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 04:06 PM
For sure, he's a "celebrity". LOL
Ek-ek
Dec 17 2004, 04:10 PM
No, I am not stalking dalawapo.
It just happened to see his user name here.
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 04:31 PM
He's usually online, wathcing us.
Ek-ek
Dec 17 2004, 04:39 PM
By the way, Is he a Filipino ? or American ?
Since Guam is an American territory
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 04:44 PM
Half Chamorro, half Filipino daw... Baka half Chamorro-Amer. half Filipino
Ek-ek
Dec 17 2004, 05:09 PM
I just wonder How about those Filipinos in the US?
They said that they have dual citizenship?
item1702
Dec 17 2004, 05:13 PM
QUOTE (Ek-ek @ Dec 17 2004, 06:09 PM)
I just wonder How about those Filipinos in the US?
They said that they have dual citizenship?
They have to pay double the taxes right?
Ek-ek have you been up all night posting?
Ek-ek
Dec 17 2004, 05:18 PM
No.......
I do not have any idea about the US constitution.
Kanlungan
Dec 17 2004, 05:35 PM
Si Fil-Am baka alam niya?!
Fil-Am
Dec 18 2004, 08:47 PM
QUOTE (Kanlungan @ Dec 17 2004, 06:35 PM)
Si Fil-Am baka alam niya?!
heh heh yes you have to pay taxes to both countries. And each year you have to go back and forth to renew your citizenship in the respective country.
flipcombatmedic
Dec 25 2004, 06:42 PM
QUOTE (Ek-ek @ Dec 17 2004, 06:09 PM)
I just wonder How about those Filipinos in the US?
They said that they have dual citizenship?
dual citizenship is nice, cuz you're not being just american without having to be bothered about non citizen problem in pi. however it is so hard, that most people i'm sure are just us citizens.
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