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Theta
QUOTE (DetunedRadio @ Dec 28 2004, 12:16 AM)
sounds good.
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It certainly does. icon_neutral.gif
DetunedRadio
QUOTE (Theta @ Dec 28 2004, 12:18 AM)
It certainly does.  icon_neutral.gif
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but ur eyes are very big. I don't think you need it.

for me, I have typical slanted chinese eyes so I definitely need it. in addition, they are also monolid which makes it worse.
FantasyClover
QUOTE (Theta @ Dec 28 2004, 12:18 AM)
QUOTE (DetunedRadio @ Dec 28 2004, 12:16 AM)
sounds good.
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It certainly does. icon_neutral.gif
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why the long face theta? this is VERY good news icon_smile.gif

if u think something about this is fishy, can u share? b/c i dont find any flaws in this procedure, it just hafta be sucessful embarassedlaugh.gif
Theta
QUOTE (DetunedRadio @ Dec 28 2004, 12:19 AM)
but ur eyes are very big. I don't think you need it.

for me, I have typical slanted chinese eyes so I definitely need it. in addition, they are also monolid which makes it worse.
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I never thought of my eyes being very large, actually. And I don't quite like the their shape and monolid look. embarassedlaugh.gif

QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 28 2004, 12:24 AM)
why the long face theta?  this is VERY good news icon_smile.gif

if u think something about this is fishy, can u share?  b/c i dont find any flaws in this procedure, it just hafta be sucessful embarassedlaugh.gif
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Yes, this is very good news indeed, Clover. Just that now I'm kinda motivated to try it out, haha. I always tried to tell myself not to go and change myself through artificial means.
DetunedRadio
QUOTE (Theta @ Dec 28 2004, 12:27 AM)
Yes, this is very good news indeed, Clover. Just that now I'm kinda motivated to try it out, haha. I always tried to tell myself not to go and change myself through artificial means.
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whatever makes you feel better, even if its just a little bit, about yourself, it will help you succeed in life, both socially, professionally and romantically.

society is shallow despite what people on this board make you think. the same people like first born or whoever who tell you how bad plastic surgery is are the same ones who gawk and obsess over beautiful people. sure, people like your family and relatives and close friends will love you no matter what but in life, you have to deal with a bunch of people and situations you don't want to deal with. and you havta feel confident in order to succeed.

well, at least thats the way it is for me.
Theta
QUOTE (DetunedRadio @ Dec 28 2004, 12:33 AM)
QUOTE (Theta @ Dec 28 2004, 12:27 AM)

Yes, this is very good news indeed, Clover. Just that now I'm kinda motivated to try it out, haha. I always tried to tell myself not to go and change myself through artificial means.
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whatever makes you feel better, even if its just a little bit, about yourself, it will help you succeed in life, both socially, professionally and romantically.

society is shallow despite what people on this board make you think. the same people like first born or whoever who tell you how bad plastic surgery is are the same ones who gawk and obsess over beautiful people. sure, people like your family and relatives and close friends will love you no matter what but in life, you have to deal with a bunch of people and situations you don't want to deal with. and you havta feel confident in order to succeed.

well, at least thats the way it is for me.
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Sounds about right, Detuned. But the embarrassing part for me would be if someone were to actually point out that I had plastic surgery done to myself. There will be those kind of b!tches out there. It's bound to be known. But I wish I could just go through with it without anyone knowing. It's impossible to not notice. Furthermore, I don't know how I would feel if I saw someone equally or more beautiful than me who didn't do a single thing to themselves and were just born beautiful. I wonder if it would make me feel guilty inside.
DetunedRadio
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Florenze
Theta, how about trying the non-incision double eyelid procedure?

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Our surgeons's original DST technique has been featured in the Aesthetic Surgery Journal. The following is the summary of the news release.

By: Leida Snow, Director, Media Relations, American Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons. May 2001 release.



NON-INCISIONAL TECHNIQUE TO CREATE DOUBLE EYELIDS GAINS FAVOR AMONG ASIAN PATIENTS


Study Published in ASAPS Peer-reviewed Journal


New York, NY (July 10, 2001) - An improved non-incisional technique to create double eyelids in Asian patients is reported in the current issue of Aesthetic Surgery Journal (ASJ), the peer-reviewed publication of the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS).


Double-eyelid surgery is the most popular cosmetic surgical procedure in Japan. Whereas most surgeons in the United States perform cutting-type double eyelid surgery, most patients in Japan prefer non-incisional techniques. According to the authors of a study appearing in ASJ, current non-incisional techniques for creating double eyelids are either technically complex or do not produce lasting results.



Doctors who developed this procedure describe an improved procedure that uses double sutures and twists (DST) to create double eyelids in Asian patients. Tehy say the non-incisional procedure is simple, durable, and virtually scar free. As described in the article, the method uses only two sutures on each upper eyelid, with the durability explained by the areas of ties and the central twists that result in more secure and therefore longer-lasting results.


The authors performed 1108 cases using the DST method during the past ten years, with no loss of double eyelid line after follow-up periods ranging from one month to seven years (with a mean follow-up time of 32 months). The average operative time ranged from 20 minutes (one side) to 60 minutes (bilateral). Most patients did not require sedation, and the surgeries were performed with only local anesthesia. Complications were minor and rare.


It has been said that the DST technique is unique and differs from previous procedures mainly because of its three distinctive areas of ties and the twisted sutures in the center that give additional strength to the line. According to the surgeon, The DST method is a relatively simple and reproducible means of creating double eyelids in Asian patients.


When my friend went to Korea for her double eyelid surgery, I asked the surgeon about the laser double eyelid surgery but he advised against it.
I don't know why but he said something about it being more difficult to perform than the normal one and also chances of it turning out well is slimmer.
He then suggested the above non-incision method above and my friend agreed to it.
After the procedure, my friend's eyelids look really natural with no scarring.
FantasyClover
QUOTE (Florenze @ Dec 28 2004, 03:31 AM)
Theta, how about trying the non-incision double eyelid procedure?

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Our surgeons's original DST technique has been featured in the Aesthetic Surgery Journal. The following is the summary of the news release.

By: Leida Snow, Director, Media Relations, American Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons. May 2001 release.



NON-INCISIONAL TECHNIQUE TO CREATE DOUBLE EYELIDS GAINS FAVOR AMONG ASIAN PATIENTS


Study Published in ASAPS Peer-reviewed Journal


New York, NY (July 10, 2001) - An improved non-incisional technique to create double eyelids in Asian patients is reported in the current issue of Aesthetic Surgery Journal (ASJ), the peer-reviewed publication of the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS).


Double-eyelid surgery is the most popular cosmetic surgical procedure in Japan. Whereas most surgeons in the United States perform cutting-type double eyelid surgery, most patients in Japan prefer non-incisional techniques. According to the authors of a study appearing in ASJ, current non-incisional techniques for creating double eyelids are either technically complex or do not produce lasting results.



Doctors who developed this procedure describe an improved procedure that uses double sutures and twists (DST) to create double eyelids in Asian patients. Tehy say the non-incisional procedure is simple, durable, and virtually scar free. As described in the article, the method uses only two sutures on each upper eyelid, with the durability explained by the areas of ties and the central twists that result in more secure and therefore longer-lasting results.


The authors performed 1108 cases using the DST method during the past ten years, with no loss of double eyelid line after follow-up periods ranging from one month to seven years (with a mean follow-up time of 32 months). The average operative time ranged from 20 minutes (one side) to 60 minutes (bilateral). Most patients did not require sedation, and the surgeries were performed with only local anesthesia. Complications were minor and rare.


It has been said that the DST technique is unique and differs from previous procedures mainly because of its three distinctive areas of ties and the twisted sutures in the center that give additional strength to the line. According to the surgeon, The DST method is a relatively simple and reproducible means of creating double eyelids in Asian patients.


When my friend went to Korea for her double eyelid surgery, I asked the surgeon about the laser double eyelid surgery but he advised against it.
I don't know why but he said something about it being more difficult to perform than the normal one and also chances of it turning out well is slimmer.
He then suggested the above non-incision method above and my friend agreed to it.
After the procedure, my friend's eyelids look really natural with no scarring.
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okay i think pesonally think the cutting is worse than the laser. It might leave a scar on the outer layer of the skin. With the layer, u dont cut the skin.

as for the non incision technique, its not permanent. You will still see the crease with ur eyes closed, i dont know how 'natural' that is.


Do you guys really think this is photoshop? This is a very clear digital picture of her. I dont think she photoshopped her eyeballs. She's naturally that pretty.
gwun gwun
i thnk she photoshopped her lips to make her look sucked in lol. but i think her eyes are real in that picture! oh and her nose always look te same!
PuyoPop
Frankly, I don't like her lips at all.

DetunedRadio, who the hell is that schoolgirl in your pic on your left? I thought the other people were you and it's bugging the crap out of me.
DetunedRadio
QUOTE (PuyoPop @ Dec 28 2004, 01:35 PM)
Frankly, I don't like her lips at all.

DetunedRadio, who the hell is that schoolgirl in your pic on your left? I thought the other people were you and it's bugging the crap out of me.
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i dont really care that its bugging the crap out of you icon_smile.gif
DarkcaTT
it depends on the taste.....very young girls shouldn't be appealing to a grown up men

hey, DR, Minori aoi looks kinda ugly in your avatar.....


PuyoPop
*Has new places to go when he wants to beat off*

Woooo!

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gwun gwun
yah she looks cute.
DarkcaTT
QUOTE (gwun gwun @ Dec 28 2004, 11:51 AM)
yah she looks cute.
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that pic of minori aoi?

she looks ugly in there
Theta
QUOTE (Florenze @ Dec 28 2004, 03:31 AM)
Theta, how about trying the non-incision double eyelid procedure?

QUOTE
Our surgeons's original DST technique has been featured in the Aesthetic Surgery Journal. The following is the summary of the news release.

By: Leida Snow, Director, Media Relations, American Society of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons. May 2001 release.



NON-INCISIONAL TECHNIQUE TO CREATE DOUBLE EYELIDS GAINS FAVOR AMONG ASIAN PATIENTS


Study Published in ASAPS Peer-reviewed Journal


New York, NY (July 10, 2001) - An improved non-incisional technique to create double eyelids in Asian patients is reported in the current issue of Aesthetic Surgery Journal (ASJ), the peer-reviewed publication of the American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery (ASAPS).


Double-eyelid surgery is the most popular cosmetic surgical procedure in Japan. Whereas most surgeons in the United States perform cutting-type double eyelid surgery, most patients in Japan prefer non-incisional techniques. According to the authors of a study appearing in ASJ, current non-incisional techniques for creating double eyelids are either technically complex or do not produce lasting results.



Doctors who developed this procedure describe an improved procedure that uses double sutures and twists (DST) to create double eyelids in Asian patients. Tehy say the non-incisional procedure is simple, durable, and virtually scar free. As described in the article, the method uses only two sutures on each upper eyelid, with the durability explained by the areas of ties and the central twists that result in more secure and therefore longer-lasting results.


The authors performed 1108 cases using the DST method during the past ten years, with no loss of double eyelid line after follow-up periods ranging from one month to seven years (with a mean follow-up time of 32 months). The average operative time ranged from 20 minutes (one side) to 60 minutes (bilateral). Most patients did not require sedation, and the surgeries were performed with only local anesthesia. Complications were minor and rare.


It has been said that the DST technique is unique and differs from previous procedures mainly because of its three distinctive areas of ties and the twisted sutures in the center that give additional strength to the line. According to the surgeon, The DST method is a relatively simple and reproducible means of creating double eyelids in Asian patients.


When my friend went to Korea for her double eyelid surgery, I asked the surgeon about the laser double eyelid surgery but he advised against it.
I don't know why but he said something about it being more difficult to perform than the normal one and also chances of it turning out well is slimmer.
He then suggested the above non-incision method above and my friend agreed to it.
After the procedure, my friend's eyelids look really natural with no scarring.
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Wow, another option. Hmm...but if your friend's surgeon advised against the laser double eyelid surgery, his reasons are most likely legitimate. However, it sounds like the non-incision double eyelid surgery would be more painful?
DetunedRadio
QUOTE (DarkcaTT @ Dec 28 2004, 02:27 PM)
it depends on the taste.....very young girls shouldn't be appealing to a grown up men

hey, DR, Minori aoi looks kinda ugly in your avatar.....



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who i put in my avatar is my business, not yours
FantasyClover
QUOTE (DetunedRadio @ Dec 28 2004, 05:51 PM)
QUOTE (DarkcaTT @ Dec 28 2004, 02:27 PM)
it depends on the taste.....very young girls shouldn't be appealing to a grown up men

hey, DR, Minori aoi looks kinda ugly in your avatar.....



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who i put in my avatar is my business, not yours
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she is VERY pretty.
PuyoPop
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 28 2004, 06:09 PM)
QUOTE (DetunedRadio @ Dec 28 2004, 05:51 PM)
QUOTE (DarkcaTT @ Dec 28 2004, 02:27 PM)
it depends on the taste.....very young girls shouldn't be appealing to a grown up men

hey, DR, Minori aoi looks kinda ugly in your avatar.....



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who i put in my avatar is my business, not yours
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she is VERY pretty.
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I agree, she looks EXCEPTIONALLY pretty in that picture.
aZnRiCeChiQ
she looks like a cat! MeOW!
Florenze
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 28 2004, 09:46 AM)
okay i think pesonally think the cutting is worse than the laser.  It might leave a scar on the outer layer of the skin.  With the layer, u dont cut the skin.

as for the non incision technique, its not permanent.  You will still see the crease with ur eyes closed, i dont know how 'natural' that is.


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Actually it won't leave a scar because u don't cut the outer layer of the skin.
My friend had it done and it looks natural...people who don't know her before the surgery never can guess she had her eyes done.
I have asked a quite a few plastic surgery clinics in Japan/Korea and most don't seem keen to do the laser surgery with many suggesting this non-incision procedure instead.
I remembered vaguely one surgeon saying that this laser surgery is highly specialized and if not done well can lead to many complications eg internal bleeding and whatnot.
That's why laser double eyelid surgery is not really popular still.

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However, it sounds like the non-incision double eyelid surgery would be more painful?

U will be under local anesthesia just like if u opt to do the laser eye surgery so u won't feel the pain at all.
cejay
The suture method is not permanent, it usually comes out in about 5 years.
So why not the incision method, the trouble and discomfort is about the same.
FantasyClover
QUOTE (cejay @ Dec 28 2004, 08:22 PM)
The suture method is not permanent, it usually comes out in about 5 years.
So why not the incision method, the trouble and discomfort is about the same.
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yeah, better to get something that lasts with all the cost and the pain icon_neutral.gif
devilish
I wish all girls look like Namji.
FantasyClover
^I wish i looked like Namji, except for her nose and her thin lips icon_smile.gif
devilish
Actually, I want to look Namji too, then I can get all the white boys I want. biggrin.gif
Brian T
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 28 2004, 09:28 PM)
^I wish i looked like Namji, except for her nose and her thin lips icon_smile.gif
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They're cute even if its not what others would call perfection. If she really looks like what she looks like in the pics, I wouldn't change a thing.
FantasyClover
^except she doesnt look like what she looks like in the pic icon_smile.gif

whoa that sounded a lil wierd......"doesn't look like what she looks like..." icon_smile.gificon_smile.gificon_smile.gif
Florenze
QUOTE (cejay @ Dec 28 2004, 08:22 PM)
The suture method is not permanent, it usually comes out in about 5 years.
So why not the incision method, the trouble and discomfort is about the same.
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The non-incision method requires no down-time whereas the incision one will takes two weeks to heal.
And the non-incision one is less invasive which is good for squeamish people.
Plus the fact that the non-incision method is reversible, if the eyelids is not to your liking, u can redo it again.
I'm not saying that the non-incision method is better but just offering an alternative for people who are afraid to go under the knife.
In fact, all the surgeons I spoke to said they will advice their patients to do the incision method rather than the non-incision one.
DetunedRadio
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 28 2004, 10:02 PM)
^except she doesnt look like what she looks like in the pic icon_smile.gif

whoa that sounded a lil wierd......"doesn't look like what she looks like..." icon_smile.gificon_smile.gificon_smile.gif
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yah thats kinda weird icon_neutral.gif
Brian T
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 28 2004, 10:02 PM)
^except she doesnt look like what she looks like in the pic icon_smile.gif

whoa that sounded a lil wierd......"doesn't look like what she looks like..." icon_smile.gificon_smile.gificon_smile.gif
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She look damned close in those candid photos. Good enough for me. People always look better in person than in photos anyways.
FantasyClover
QUOTE (Brian T @ Dec 29 2004, 01:08 AM)
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 28 2004, 10:02 PM)
^except she doesnt look like what she looks like in the pic icon_smile.gif

whoa that sounded a lil wierd......"doesn't look like what she looks like..." icon_smile.gificon_smile.gificon_smile.gif
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She look damned close in those candid photos. Good enough for me. People always look better in person than in photos anyways.
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me too embarassedlaugh.gif
Meng
Maybe it's just me but there's always an eerie glow in her pictures and it creeps me out.. [shudder]
Huynh
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 22 2004, 08:14 AM)




a pic of her when she was younger:

see i dun think she had surgery like people said she did

Namji and her uncle and the boy that works for him:





I love her shiny hair!




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but the way who is she anyway
FantasyClover
korean internet celebrity, a ullzang.

www.ullzang.com
Huynh
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 29 2004, 12:28 PM)
korean internet celebrity, a ullzang.

www.ullzang.com
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what is a internet celebrity confused.gif
and what an ullzang the site dont work for me
FantasyClover
its a korean site where cmmon people post their pics. They get famous on internet. Some became real celebrities in acting and modeling.
Brian T
QUOTE (Huynh @ Dec 29 2004, 01:38 PM)
QUOTE (FantasyClover @ Dec 29 2004, 12:28 PM)
korean internet celebrity, a ullzang.

www.ullzang.com
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what is a internet celebrity confused.gif
and what an ullzang the site dont work for me
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Thats because its ulzzang.com
hakseng
she look like a female version of michael jackson lol
plus she got like some mustache goin on there
other than taht she's pretty ok I'll rate her 7.8 outta 10
she looked better as she was younger though
fjinvasion
you must be one ugly girl if you envy her beauty lol
iNFINiT_
hahahah that fkn harsh yet true
sniff
QUOTE (fjinvasion @ Dec 30 2004, 08:39 AM)
you must be one ugly girl if you envy her beauty lol
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embarassedlaugh.gif2 ok that was mean. but admittedly funny embarassedlaugh.gif icon_redface.gif icon_wink.gif
Brian T
What? You guys suck at life.
iNFINiT_
what? because we wouldnt dare touch a plastic girl?
Brian T
QUOTE (iNFINiT_ @ Dec 31 2004, 12:11 AM)
what? because we wouldnt dare touch a plastic girl?
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Well if you're going to be like that, don't ever date a girl who dyes her hair. Don't date a girl that bleaches her teeth. Don't date a girl that puts on make-up.

In any case, I still haven't seen anyone offer proof she has surgery. Looks pretty fu-king natural to me.
NitaKang


Awwww look at her nice cheeks in her glasses. I want to pinch it, how adorable!
PuyoPop
QUOTE (NitaKang @ Dec 31 2004, 12:42 AM)
Awwww look at her nice cheeks in her glasses. I want to pinch it, how adorable!
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I also think she's very ugly. I wouldn't touch her if she wanted me to. And don't you think it's us guys' opinion you should be concerned about? She looks old or something.. icky.... and scrawny dang... You don't want your face and lips like that, you want them to be fleshy and fat (well not too much). Just look at young Japanese girls, their faces have muchos flesh and it's wonderful. With her there's just nothing there except enormous eyes and and otherwise scrawny face. That's what happens to OLD people.
NitaKang
^I was just joking. -_- Anyways I brought this up though, for Brian T would came and see it for a proof of surgery. embarassedlaugh.gif
qnpfr
QUOTE (NitaKang @ Dec 31 2004, 12:42 AM)


Awwww look at her nice cheeks in her glasses. I want to pinch it, how adorable!
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embarassedlaugh.gif2 the thing is this namji girl is like a semi-celebrity...she has a lot of fans and haters too...that pic u posted is from anti-namji site lol...not very credible...
also...she's only 16...u gotta be over 18 to get surgery in korea(except for some really minor procedures)
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