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http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/new...0406150017.html


What is it about Korean Women that Western Men Like?



Have Nicolas Cage and Alice Kim Split?



We know that Korean-American Alice Kim (Korean name: Kim Yong-gyeong) will marry Hollywood star Nicolas Cage in June. Kim’s uncle, an executive at a credit agency, said in an interview with a Korean daily paper that, “I understand that Alice Kim and Nicolas Cage will marry in June.” This marriage may be postponed, however; Cage is leaving for Africa in July to shoot his new film, “Lord of War.”

News scrap from U.K. tabloid The Sun (left) and Nicolas Cage & Alice Kim.




Why are American film stars into Korean women? Kenny, an executive at a LA Koreatown broadcasting company, said in an interview with a Korean broadcaster that, “Korean women are submissive and kind. They are known to make breakfast, lunch and dinner for their husbands, help their husbands well, and raise children well." There are also those who feel that in the eyes of Western men, East Asian women possess a sort of mysteriousness about them. They say that one can grow fond of the unknown “Orient." 24-year-old James Cecil, an American living in Korea, said, “Even Korean women who are not though of as pretty by Korean men can give a sense of mystery to Western men.” 29-year-old English teacher Mike Conforty said, “Korean women are gentle, feminine and quiet. I think Korean women are the prettiest of all East Asian women.”

Nikki Park & Wesley Snipes (left) and Woody Allen & Soon-yi Previn



Western men also seem to find the purity and conservativeness of Korean women attractive. 25-year-old USFK soldier Blake Selesnew said, “American women are too materialistic, but Korean women aren’t. They seem less snobby.” Korea University English instructor Zane Ivy said, “Korean women are conservative. They are conscience of what people around them think, depend on their families and parents and are submissive.”
Before Alice Kim and Nicolas Cage, other Hollywood couples with Korean women included Wesley Snipes and Nikki Park and Woody Allen and Soon-Yi Previn. Less well known was “About Schmidt” director Alexander Payne’s marriage last year to Korean-Canadian actress Sandra Oh. Meanwhile, Woody Allen attended a literature event last October in Frankfurt, Germany and said he would write an autobiography containing the story of how he split from long-time lover Mia Farrow and fell in love and married Farrow’s adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn.

(englishnews@chosun.com )

Cage and Kim have been married. Right??

Interesting comment.

Yes, they're married. And yes, that's a really interesting comment. Just goes to show you that most westerners don't know $hit about Koreans (or any Asians, for that matter)...

bull$hit korean women who'd lived 20 years ago were mostly like that though we will have the world's toughest women in a while

Korean women are a pain in the @$$. They have serious egos, are toatlly into money and designer goods, and think their $hit don't stink. I've been with over a 150 and there's been maybe 5 good out of the bunch. Take that from a Korean man.

Based from my experiences, no.

Heck, all fo the Korean chicks I've seen have some spunk in them!

I don't think so. Although there are a quite number of korean women who are unmaterialistic and gentle(eg. my mom- never spens more than 100 bucks on clothes), many things are being changed nowadays. For instance,Korea has always remained very family-oriented. But people have become more individualistic over the last decade. It's a sad fact but ya know, what can we do about it? It's not only korean women who are like that though. It's true for all asians.

WORD!

Well getting back to the question....No, I don't think Korean women are submissive, some are, but generally korean women are not submissive.

Probably the same amount are submissive as with any other nationality. I haven't known many Korean women who are submissive.

*you* sure aren't submissive... *grins*

Japanese girls.

How could you tell?

umm none of the Korean females on this forum seem submissive in the least haha

wow this topic is in serious chat

Hellll no korean women aren't submissive, they the most independent, fierce, wild @$$ b!tches in the world!
I'm sure those yankees who hooked up with korean gals because of their wrongly applied stereotypes(japanese girls, yeah) would learn the reality as harshly and clearly as a slap in the @$$!

Dude, you're weird.

Wild-@$$ b!tches? You talking about my girlfriend now? My gf's no wild @$$ b!tch! Wanna fight? What? You're not? You don't? What was that? A mis-applied stereotype?

For the record: I like my girlfriend because she's my girlfriend, not because she's some 'feirce wild-@$$ b!tch korean' as you so eloquently put it. I'm sure many 'yanks' or 'whiteys' dating Korean girls feel the same way. Here's a tip: people date people, not stereotypes.

I know you're young and all ... But I think sometimes you need to relax a little. Get laid or get high... preferably both. Take a deep breath, at least. Take this as well-meaning advice from your 형.

in before the lock?

w/e... no, krn women aren't submissive...

Haha relax man, i wasn't entirely serious. I LOVE OUR WOMEN, THEY THE BEST IN THE WORLD INSIDE AND OUT
But indeed they arent submissive, most of them are the exact opposite so...

"Get laid or get high... preferably both"
-- haha, i do both, don't worry btw you're canadian so i'm guessing you got cheap legal pot in your homeland, i'm wonderin if you miss it? 2

btw, how old are you anagram? i dun think you're too much older than i am i'm from the year of the mouse

well yes korean women are submissive.....back in the 1900s - 1980s...but as korea modernizes more and more korean women are becoming more independent.

I certainly hope they're becoming more 'independent'. They are, afterall, adults, fully capable of taking care of themselves.

And as a guy, I'd much rather date a human than a living ragdoll.

Most seem like b!tches, but there are few really nice ones.

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Well if you didn't represent yourself in such stupidity, maybe you would've gained much respect from some people here on AF. But since you did bring such a negative vibe, I don't see that happening. Even though you are changing very slow-ly. The memories of your past on AF is always going to be remembered. So enough with the “I know it all”... try to learn from other people... just think about it because it seems like you’re letting out all your anger here, maybe you’re having a tough time in your everyday life, who knows. But that doesn’t mean you should go around hurting or offending anyone (totally goes for everyone on AF), just to make yourself feel better? Seriously that’s lame. Too bad you already gave yourself a bad name. No wonder why so many girls are b!tches to you and yes that includes me *wink*

Now stop trying to register here all the time, when no one wants you around. 2



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I don't know.. BUT I heard my mom threw a bucket of water at my dad when they first met, since he was bothering her all the time. *funny story

Besides that.. korean girls I know.. nope.

Korean males seem to be rather effeminate IMO, but women, especially those of Cheju-Do type (medium height, heavy build, short-limbed, slightly prognathism, light-yellow skin, flatter faces) tend to be slightly aggressive. Their behaviours aren't unlike those of certain Inuit-related arctic tribes.

Also, perhaps due to westernization, many Korean females ARE materialistic. That westerner doesn't know what he's talking about

korean males effeminate? LMAO, you must not know what you're talkin about. korean males are the most robust, blunt, straightforward, macho-acting masculine fight-loving no-bull$hit dudes. At least from my experience, they are more masculine than white men, and in particular the contrast stands out with chinese men. I've commonly heard westerners gauking at how brash and tough korean men are, and how fiery their temper is, and blah blah blah, but you're the first to ever tell me that korean men are feminine. I think you may be a bit biased.
If you'r judging by the pretty-boy appearance of celebs and those on tv, you're mistaken. Korean women are tired of their machovistic male counterparts, so they crave the effeminate, or even metrosexual men...so celebrities TRY to look feminine. So i guess you're judgin by this trend...

Perhaps you're right, now that I think about it. I've seen my fair share of both extremes in Korean males. Some act like Irishmen, drinking and fighting a lot, but there's also a great number who are effeminate both in appearance and behaviour as well.

hi-head - you speak the truth!




Well, I guess the "westerner" is NOT the only one who doesn't know what he is talking about.

If anything, Korean males are known for having fiery tempers and being macho. Granted, since many Korean girls (primarily from Seoul and surrounding areas) prefer non-macho men, a lot of the guys from those areas do the whole "metro-sexual" sensitive male (they're not stupid).

Guys outside of that area generally have maintained the traditional macho exterior and consequently don't attract too many girls from Seoul.

Korean women, I suspect, have always also had a fiery temperament, and now that they are not as burdened by social restrictions (esp. here in the U.S.), many have let their "true" personas come out (none of the k-girls I know take crap from anybody).

Here's a non-biased view that had initially been posted by someone else on another thread.

"They don't like anyone who isn't Korean, and they don't like each other all that much, either. They're hardheaded, hard-drinking, tough little bastards, 'the Irish of Asia'."
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador), 54

Materialism is merely a symptom of affluence. Once people no longer have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and attain a certain level of comfort - their focus increasingly moves to pleasurable things such as vacations, nice homes, nice cars, etc.

I guess in many cultures, there is a history of women being the more passive and submissive of the two sexes, but in today's society, past feminist movements have made a cornerstone of Women's independance. In regards to Korean women- yes, to an extent, they are are submissive, esp. in traditional homes.

not anymore, korean girls today wont take crap from guys, trust me. but the older generations i guess may have been culturally submissive, even though korean women always did have hot tempers
dudes in korea now are quite trendy and metro, so i guess they might look effeminate for a moment..but dont let appearances deceive you, cuz they will kick butt without hesitation, and hesitation is the usual norm among western guys.
the older generation was far more macho than today's, and rude and brash...nearly all korean men behaved like the typical russian ex-mafia members playing pool in a smoke-filled area.. and so its no wonder modern women are tired of the ignoramus and prefer the sensitive male figure of effeminate quality, which is probably learned from western movies and western celebrities.

I can relate to doozer's comments from personal experience...that outside of seoul was more traditionally korean, than around seoul.. so there was a vast cultural difference. Which is why seoul girls dislike the "chonnom" and their brash behavior. Today it's the trend throughout all of korea that men try to act gentle and full of manners, even delicate, in front of their female counterparts...all the while acting totally different and being macho all over again when they are back with their guyfriends.. same kinda goes with the gals. So my conclusion is that the fieryness and toughness of koreans run in the blood while cultural phenoms dictate their behavior and styles of the time.

hi-head:

That's pretty much right-on.

As Korean girls, primarily from Seoul and the surrounding areas, get a diff. view point as to what they want in a boyfriend/husband due to portrayals in the media and their own economic independance (see portrayals of Korean males in Korean movies/tv dramas and Hollywood movies - they seem to like the more "sensitive" less "manly" guys such as Leonardo, Orlando and Brad), Korean men in those areas have adapted.

Plus, studies have shown that women, in general, do prefer the "boyish" less macho types during much of their fertility cycle.

that's kinda hard to understand, i always think that tough, g.o.o.d men should be attractive, as a matter of genetic superiority, and just being able to be a man with manly aspects. I never was able to agree with the current effeminate preferences

uhm, why do you equate "genetic superiority" with toughness? i'm no geneticist, but i think most people think "genetic superiority" = good health, intelligence, good looks. a stereotypical example, most women would probably choose a good-looking doctor over a bar bouncer, GI, or policeman, everything else being equal.

regarding the main topic of korean women and submissiveness, i'm no expert but imo, korean women are not more submissive, but they ARE more FAMILY-oriented in general. a lot of people confuse the two.

really, you should see an italian or portuguese woman in fury.... these are tough woman, or like Al Pacino said in the godfather "Do anything you want, don't do anything that would embarrass mama"

sub missive? hummm, wha dat mean?

i'd say korean women have class.

Wow, that is quite the opinion.

My mother is certainly not submissive.

Though I'd prefer my wife to be submissive. I know, I'm being naive and too hopeful.

Korean woman are submissive but that doesn’t mean that they are fragile.
Actually they are among the strongest type of woman you find in the world but they are taught to be submissive to man from childhood, so in family they are a dedicated mother and wife but have strong sense of accomplishment and in business they can be very aggressive.
I think that’s why Chinese man wants to marry Korean women.

Absolutely! One has to have a strong will and sense of self to submit to another when it is by choice, rather than force.

Granted my experience is limited, but I have never met a weak Korean woman - ever. They may be quiet, respectful, passive and even submissive in public. But in private you will see an iron will and someone who can and will take control when needed. I think the stereotypical ajima is often lurking in the depths just waiting for a reason to drop the more cooperative image. But that is true, regardless of where a woman is from.

As for materialistic, well that depends on the woman. We all are at times.

what an interesting (albeit old) thread! I just found this website, so I'll throw this reply out there and see if anyone bites.
I have a Korean fiance. She is an absolute doll. Good natured and hard working, loving and generous, selfless and kind. The kind of woman any man would be proud to have (regardless of nationality).
Until you piss her off.
She is then a defferent person entirely. Absolutely fearless. A terror.
Now, before anyone starts this "Asian fetish" b.s.-- in MY case it isn't true. I happen to be a sucker for women with brown eyes. I really don't care about their race or nationality. I just happen to luck out with this woman, she is gorgeous.
Submissive? Nope. My equal in every way.

I would say that's a typical woman. The only variable is what it takes to piss her off.

My Korean boyfriend thinks of me as strong, but more gentle and easy-going. But he doesn't see me at work and fortunately he has not seen me truly angry (it takes alot to get me past merely irritated). But if you ask those who have known me longer and seen me under stress, they would probably describe a blend of the Wicked Witch of the West and Grizzly Bear who just had her fish stolen.

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Lol I hope he never sees you mad, although I think if you guys are togother for very long it will happen sooner or later. When I was a kid, a young couple lived in the apartment below us. He was a a young airman in the Air Force, she was his young Korean wife. One night, we heard a commotion downstairs, along with her screaming in Korean. I opened the door and looked down over the railing and saw her with a stack of dishes throwing them out into the courtyard like they were frisbees! I don't know what he did to piss her off, but I never forgot that. It was my first experience with the world famous Korean temper. Now, of course I think of it as funny.

And why must that be?

Submissive? HA!

Im sure youve all heard this before but it bears repeating. When my wife and I are in public, she does the shy and bashful Korean girl thing. Once we are home and the doors are closed, she is in charge. And there will be hell to pay if I did something wrong!

I actually like the temper thing. One of the problems I had with the white girls I grew up with is they tended to not give much feedback. You do something they dont like, they would get all quiet and give a little smile. The next day theyve found themselves a new potential boyfriend! Yeah, the screaming and throwing of stuff isnt fun while it lasts. But at least you know there will be a chance to make amends when the dust settles.