I think geographically, Vietnam is a south east asia country.

But other than that, culturally and other stuff, Vietnam fits into east asian country.

What do you think?

i think we dont kare...or get the dam...
vietnam is SE asia...

Vietnam is a south east asian country.
politically, it's SE
racially, they're mixed with east asians and natives. the majority of them are un-mongoloid(east asians)
culturally, Indo-China as the name implies, it's influnced by both India and China. Laos, Thailand, Myanmar, Cambodia are proto-Indian, Vietnam is more influenced by China.

Vietnam is a Southeast Asian nation who's been greatly influenced by China (East Asia). Just because a nation is deeply influenced by another doesn't mean it belongs to the same region :-). The United States is deeply Euro-centric but it doesn't make the U.S. an European nation :-)

I agree with you!!! Yeah doesn't mean a country is influenced by another doesn't mean they belong to the same region................No doubt Vietnam belongs to Southeastasia!!!

Southeast Asian Country!

Just so you all know, Vietnam is part of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations).

it is disturbing that people still don't know what they are saying-- Racially? i think ethinically is the word you are looking for. Racial implies the difference among asian, black, white, hispanic, and indians. Ethincity refers to the differences among groups such as german, jews, english, etc. in a racial line. And if east asians are "un-mongoloid," then they are also aliens from outer space.




I careless if Vietnam is a Middle Eastern Country. As long it has its own identity as a nation then that's all it should matter. it's better to be recognized than to lump with the term "East Asian." When one of my friend told some white dude he came from Korea, the white guy replied, "what part of China?" Hence, for you to switch from China to East Asia by having a parenthesis is no different. besides, which country doesn't get "greately influenced by China"? No doubt that U.S is not a European Nation and so is Canada, but have you heard of NATO? The fact is of the matter is you can't argue which country is which base on the Names they belong to.

Read the title of the topic. If you don't care whether Vietnam is a Southeast nation or not then why are you here?



But Vietnam is not even East Asian, it's Southeast Asian.



Most Caucasians I've met are educated and knowledgeable enough to at least tell the difference between China, Japan, Korea and Vietnam. I can't say the same about your friend.



Many. Just in Asia alone, India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos... etc. The only three existing nations today that was GREATLY influenced by China are Japan, Korea, and Vietnam.



We're not talking about the people or culture of a nation. We're talking about the geographical location. Vietnam is definitely located in Southeast Asia.

"ethinically" is not a word.

I think he meant ethnically.

So we all agree that Vietnam is a Southeast Asian country then?

Agree long time ago....

Good.

Do you guys know the history of vietnam? how the vietnamese ethnicity gained the land they live on today? The Vietnamese ethnicity stole the land. They were invaders from the North.. Who owned the land before the viets? Chams, a malay people who lived in the central Vietnamese coastal region.. that is their ancestral land. And they continue to survive today as an ethnic minority in their own ancestral land and they also migrated elsewhere to places like hainan which they did along time ago when their kingdom was being ransacked by viets and others migrated to cambodia. They even had their own Kingdom called the Kingdom of Champa..but it eventually collasped because of repeated attacks from its neigboring kingdoms of cambodia and the viets who wanted to rise to power. the chams originally practiced a hindu-austronesian culture and built many temples and structures that can be seen today in vietnam. But today they are mostly converted to islam.

Who owned South vietnam? Cambodians. They called that land Kampuchea Krom or Cambodia below. This land was given to the Vietnamese ethncity by the French.

Im not sure but i think the vietnamese were originally from china. or part of what is now North Vietnam. But they struggled for independence and formed their own nation. and eventually migrated south and conquered the kingdom of champa and gained possesion of Khmer Krom, that i know for sure.

The aqqusition of Champa land happened a while back but i think the aqqusition of khmer krom happened more recently.. but i dont really know much about khmer krom. only about The Champa because they are my austronesian/malay brother. One of the Malay Kingdoms of the World.

check this site out, its a Cham online community, it basically has the same layout as this site:

HTTP://WWW.CHAMYOUTH.COM

Vietnam is BOTH. it can be grouped either way. Who says it can only be in one group? and besides it depends on what your talking about.

As a country and nation it is Southeast asian. Definetly, because well... its located in Southeast Asia duh. and its part of ASEAN!!

If you are talking about culture than it is grouped as East Asian. Vietnam is the only country in southeast asia that is Confucious, uses chopsticks traditionally, practices Mahayana buddhism instead of Therevada, have east asian architecture etc etc etc.... so it wouldnt make sense to say its southeast asian. i think because of this Vietnam has had a lot of conflicts with other countries like thailand cambodia in the past. kind of a cultural clash. and vietnam is considered to be part of the East asian cultural family along with japan, korea, china, taiwan and singapore.

Anyways. heres another example: Egypt is an African country because it is located in Africa. But most of the time, because of its culture, it is associated with the middle east/west asian/arab countries.

so yeah vietnam is both.

And yes Vietnam's southern lands were conquered territories which practiced different cultures but were over run by Vietnamese eastern influence.

Singapore is considered an East Asian nation culturally?

Although Chinese seems to be the dominate ethnic in Singapore, there are many other ethnics including Indians and Arabs.

not really,the land was occupied before the french officially colonize it... That's why Nguyen lords told the Ming supporters (after got defeated by Manchu) to settle of the land.

Throughout history, the powerful expands while the weak either perish or move away from their native land. It's a fact and it includes every race on this planet.

Well before the French came the Khmer Empire did own it, in fact it all of southeast Asia.
The the Tai(Thai) and ananam(can't spell)-Viets came from southern China around the 1200s C.E. and Vietnamese was a little later.
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Well before the French came the Khmer Empire did own it, in fact it all of southeast Asia.
The the Tai(Thai) and ananam(can't spell)-Viets came from southern China around the 1200s C.E. and Vietnamese was a little later.
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I didn't say that it wasn't property of Cambodian... i just disagreed that the French "gave" the south vietnam land to Vietnam

neither. We who we are. An independent rebel!

Bull$hit. Vietnamese did not came from southern China. They lived in northern Vietnam.

threads 3 years old LMAO. people arent going to reply hahaha.

The original vietnamese are from Yunnan,Quangxi,Northvietnam only. That people called LacViet Or( LouYue) in chinese. Later lost to zhao tou and emerged with cantonese form NamYue state. Later Han empire defeated Zhao tou and took over NamYue. 3 provices sinized and assimilated with Han chinese. But only Noth vietnam fight back and they won the batter in 938 and form independent country. but 1000 years lived Han chinese, speak chinese, Named chinese, mixing chinese then viet is not pure viet. Even vietnamse mixing with khmer and thai. Although, vietnamese are stil vietnamese.

i highly doubt the vietnamese who mixed with khmer or thai that much, if there is, it's just small fraction of it so i wouldn't say mixing with these people..btw, do me a favor just shut the fuuck up if you no nothing about viet's history

Stupeeeeeeeeee @$$ chetvigai hahahahah do i said majorities vietnamese mixing with thai and khmer:(Even vietnamse mixing with khmer and thai) so your moooooom is ugly and stupeeeeeeeeeee. hahahaha

[quote name='JazzyQueen' post='3823786' date='Jul 21 2008, 09:55 PM']Stupeeeeeeeeee @$$ chetvigai hahahahah do i said majorities vietnamese mixing with thai and khmer:(Even vietnamse mixing with khmer and thai) so your moooooom is ugly and stupeeeeeeeeeee. hahahaha[/

Some people use today/modern mind to think. People back then are more against interracial marriage due to culture, language, and etc.

I think those who keep saying interracial marriage between vietnamese and this/that group are mixed, because they themselves are mixed, so they want every vietnamese to be like them.

What a heck..... I did not favor for chinese cuz you guy think i can read and write chinese fluently. I am trying to tell the true. Spain in invade Mexico, England invaded US ...and mixing with local people. But Mexico still mexico, US is still US. Do you understand. To be fair.. even we don't like chinese . but, I doubt 1000 years under china invaded vietnam since vietnam are NanYue state where it had guangxi, guangdong, Yunnan and be apart of china then nothing happen ?.70 percent vocalularies today still strongly are chinese and even our name today are chinese. But the history should let people know it, don't rewrite it and don't twist it. We survivedd assimilation from china because our cultures and people are very strong. other hand, If some one say vietnamese did not mix with cham or khmer or thai is not true. just because national interest we want it we are all vietnamese. Anyway, vietnamese are still vietnamese.

Geographically Southeast Asian, but culture and people is East Asian. Viets came from East Asia. They moved down and got rid of the Champa Kingdom and a lot of Khmers.

Ok, lets get it straight, i think vietnamese personally don't consider of where we are, we benefit nothing about the geographic location

The North is East Asia the South SE Asia, in Fact during the war some people in the North Looking like Hong Kong people the men but the girls are more attractive and the people in the South looking like Cambodian or Thai.

That is the true history. We lost Yunnan, Guangxi, Guangdong but can not claim them back.

bull$hit, the south were never mixed with Thai or Cambodian .......

Modern-day Kinh Vietnamese are not the original inhabitants. A lot of Vietnamese have pale skin and straight hair. These traits are not indigenous to warm tropical climates. They are descendants of northerners who displaced Negritos, Aborigines, and Pacific Islanders. The Vietnamese are like the "Turks of Southeast Asia." Like the Turks who made Central Asia Mongoloid, the Kinh Vietnamese (descendants of Yue people) made Southeast Asia Mongoloid.

^LOL. Original Viets came from Laos and Thailand before finally settling in the Red River Delta (Lac Viet); there they were influenced a lot by the neighbor Ou Yue/ Au Viet and possibly intermingling with them before An Duong Vuong was there. Then came the Han Chinese and the rest is history.

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