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Mona
If a woman hits you, do you think you shouldn't hit her back because she is a woman? Or do you believe whether a person is man or woman they shouldn't hit therefore you will retaliate the same way regardless of her gender?
Someone showed me this video on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QySmcBExYac
Where the woman gave the first hit but the man kinda tried to defend himself
ClassicalMusic
VIOLENCE IS WRONG & A CRIME
KojTusMeHavnim
Men are stronger, so when they hit, they should be softer than usual.

Yes, I don't mind a man hitting a woman, when she deserves it. Some women REALLY do deserve it!! I've seen women that slap, punch, and kick their husbands or BFs and cuss them out, throw things at them, embarrass them in front their friends... OMG! How can you not slap her in the face to wake her up?! I think it's so wrong when a woman treats a man like crap (like how I just described) and he can't do anything back to stop her! Notice I stop her? I don't mean for him to revenge but slap her right in the face and make her realize she's a freaking idiot out of control! I hate women who treat their men like that only because society says it's okay for them to hit men and men should't hit them back, so they take advantage of that.. geesh..

I'm a woman, btw!

But... people shouldn't fight at all men or women, doesn't matter. Violence sucks!Never once in my life have I hit anyone, even when I really wanted to. Maybe a knuckle on the head, but never slapped and never punched.
JakeCutter
I suppose it would depend on the situation, location, and relationship between the woman and myself. If it were a stranger, I might feel confused, then alert. If possible I would try to stop her or escape before resorting to violence. If there were no other way, I would have to, but I wouldn't enjoy it. And no, it wouldn't be quite the same type of retaliation as against another male, although enough to make a point.

I think there's a thin line between discipline and abuse, and I'm strongly against sexism and violence, but I also think there should be stability and fairness in relationships. Sometimes hitting is necessary, although women should know better than to behave like the woman in the video, and men should equally respect their SOs and not abuse them. Sadly, it isn't always so, and we get situations like in the video. Personally, I think that woman is way out of control, and I wouldn't even associate with those types of people, let alone date or marry one.
KojTusMeHavnim
Wait... there was a video?! eek.gif
KojTusMeHavnim
I see.. it's a reality show. crazy.gif

Funny cause, last night on Nightline, they were talking about violence on reality shows how it has kind of shifted from sex to violence. When I posted my comment, I was thinking about the woman who was beating up her fiance on this show. I felt soooo sorry and embarrassed for him : (.

About the video.. I don't really care but I hate it. People in reality shows are mostly stupids who want attention and money.. according to some of the people who are in some shows last night on Nightline.
JakeCutter
I seriously don't understand how people can abuse those they love, unless they have some type of mental disorder. I couldn't see myself hitting my girlfriend or wife for no good reason, and even then I might feel guilty.
KojTusMeHavnim
QUOTE (JakeCutter @ Mar 31 2011, 05:56 PM) *
I seriously don't understand how people can abuse those they love, unless they have some type of mental disorder. I couldn't see myself hitting my girlfriend or wife for no good reason, and even then I might feel guilty.

I know what you mean.. I can't even hit flies!!! GOODNESS!
But, I did try to kill a freaking huge black cockroach 4 in the morning. DIE!!!! I hate them!
avisitor
My mother always taught me to not hit women.
My sister told me that I should defend myself whether it is a man or woman attacking.

I have had many fights when I was younger.
Lost most of them ... some to girls .. icon_redface.gif

I know that hitting comes from an emotional response ..so, I try to stay away from such events.
The type of hitting can result in .. is simple pain, .. to much more bruising, .. to disfigurement, .. to even death

Please don't hit me ... I bruise easily ... bawling.gif
Mona
QUOTE (KojTusMeHavnim @ Mar 31 2011, 08:50 PM) *
Wait... there was a video?! eek.gif

lol check out these clip on MTV teen mom, once again the woman plays the victim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mno_E9o5hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XonZuZZARA8...feature=related
KojTusMeHavnim
QUOTE (Mona @ Mar 31 2011, 08:53 PM) *
lol check out these clip on MTV teen mom, once again the woman plays the victim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mno_E9o5hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XonZuZZARA8...feature=related

The first video was showed on Nightline.
So stupid.. people that want that much attention and money. crazy.gif icon_neutral.gif I would never project myself like that to the public to fame or money. What an embarrassment.
avisitor
QUOTE (KojTusMeHavnim @ Apr 1 2011, 12:04 AM) *
The first video was showed on Nightline.
So stupid.. people that want that much attention and money. crazy.gif icon_neutral.gif I would never project myself like that to the public to fame or money. What an embarrassment.

Did someone ask you to??? embarassedlaugh.gif
tangawizi
I notice that HongKong flicks tend to show violence by men on women. It ranges from ancient kung fu epics to modern day gangster dramas....

They slap, kick, karate their women with no hesitation. It's pretty bad.

So curious to see western reality shows catching on to this ancient trend from the East. icon_rolleyes.gif
avisitor
It is really sad to see men hitting their women
when all it really takes to get a woman to listen to their man is some love
If she feels loved then she will be willing to give her life for her man

Of course, marriage changes all that
Once she wanted love .. married, she needs money to protect her from divorce ... embarassedlaugh.gif


I need a drink ... who said what??? ... slap ... man, that b!tch can swing ... eek.gif
InitialDJay
depend on what reason you got hit for. like if you just stand there looking up in the sky and all of sudden a fatal blow smack your pretty face, heck yeah you would be piss and retaliate no matter if it's a girl/guy.
PaxAsiaticus
QUOTE (avisitor @ Apr 1 2011, 01:14 AM) *
It is really sad to see men hitting their women
when all it really takes to get a woman to listen to their man is some love
If she feels loved then she will be willing to give her life for her man

Of course, marriage changes all that
Once she wanted love .. married, she needs money to protect her from divorce ... embarassedlaugh.gif


I need a drink ... who said what??? ... slap ... man, that b!tch can swing ... eek.gif


That sums up heaps of WM/AF pairings icon_wink.gif
avisitor
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Apr 1 2011, 03:30 AM) *
depend on what reason you got hit for. like if you just stand there looking up in the sky and all of sudden a fatal blow smack your pretty face, heck yeah you would be piss and retaliate no matter if it's a girl/guy.

If "all of sudden a fatal blow smack your pretty face, ..." that happened then the fatal blow would mean that you're dead??
So, if you're the receiver of this fatal blow then you couldn't retaliate no matter if it's a guy/girl ... embarassedlaugh.gif
InitialDJay
QUOTE (avisitor @ Apr 2 2011, 11:07 AM) *
If "all of sudden a fatal blow smack your pretty face, ..." that happened then the fatal blow would mean that you're dead??
So, if you're the receiver of this fatal blow then you couldn't retaliate no matter if it's a guy/girl ... embarassedlaugh.gif

naw one fatal blow like a hard hit to your face wouldn't kill you but it could knock you unconsciousness depending how hard it hits you.

i dunno, i doubt a girl punch can knock me out.. but that just me.. maybe i'm underestimating female strength? but certainly depending where it hits also. if to the chest, i think i can take it but in other area like face or a knock to your head like hitting an idiot, then that for sure will make your blood boiling.
tangawizi
would u hit back at the girl if she did this....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm0ujSICQtc
avisitor
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Apr 2 2011, 02:30 AM) *
naw one fatal blow like a hard hit to your face wouldn't kill you but it could knock you unconsciousness depending how hard it hits you.

If you describe a blow as "fatal" then it means the blow kills
Or maybe the definition of fatal is different where you come from???

QUOTE (tangawizi @ Apr 2 2011, 03:16 AM) *
would u hit back at the girl if she did this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm0ujSICQtc

I know that I wouldn't just be standing there taking more crap.
The very least is to walk away
Mona
QUOTE (avisitor @ Apr 2 2011, 07:17 AM) *
If you describe a blow as "fatal" then it means the blow kills
Or maybe the definition of fatal is different where you come from???


I know that I wouldn't just be standing there taking more crap.
The very least is to walk away

LOL i think in "Singapore Fierce Woman 3/3"
The girl said move your hand so i can abuse your testicle laugh.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09QOvZj2NJc...feature=related

QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Apr 1 2011, 03:30 AM) *
depend on what reason you got hit for. like if you just stand there looking up in the sky and all of sudden a fatal blow smack your pretty face, heck yeah you would be piss and retaliate no matter if it's a girl/guy.

looking up in the sky laugh.gif
Say you are in a relationship and deeply in love with your girlfriend but she constantly punch you and kick you whenever you have a disagreement or fight.
Would you say with her?
chiuchimu
My gym has girls that have trained for years. they can't hit or take a serious hit. Girls lack the strength, power and aggression.

But that's comparing them to men. Among other women, some girls can kick @$$!
InitialDJay
QUOTE (avisitor @ Apr 2 2011, 08:17 PM) *
If you describe a blow as "fatal" then it means the blow kills
Or maybe the definition of fatal is different where you come from???

icon_neutral.gif a fatal blow = a deadly hit that CAN caused death, not necessarily WILL kill you. there is a slight difference in the meaning of this word. you need to confront an english teacher to explain or ask someone in here with good english skill.


QUOTE (Mona @ Apr 2 2011, 10:33 PM) *
LOL i think in "Singapore Fierce Woman 3/3"
The girl said move your hand so i can abuse your testicle laugh.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09QOvZj2NJc...feature=related


looking up in the sky laugh.gif
Say you are in a relationship and deeply in love with your girlfriend but she constantly punch you and kick you whenever you have a disagreement or fight.
Would you say with her?

wow she hits his peewee.. laugh.gif unbelievable rude, especially in public.

say "can i hit you back?" embarassedlaugh.gif

i would never hit my gf, kid, wife, family members... we are educated people now, so i believe female are rational enough to know that physical force won't solve anything.
ReginaRae
I don't see anything wrong with a woman hitting a man. In fact, I enjoy it. But that's only because personally I have a love hate relationship with the male species. Sometimes I like them, sometimes I just want to see them get their asses kicked.

Obviously it's wrong for a woman to hit/abuse a man and vice versa. But watching that video you can see that even though the woman is hitting him, and is clearly angry, not much is happening. Yet when he swings at her, she's falling all over the place. His strength overpowers hers - And this is what will happen with most of these situations. Part of my not caring if a woman hits a man is simply because I highly doubt much damage will be done (unless she's a body builder or something -_-) Whereas if a man hits a woman, you can be pretty sure something on her is going to get broken or at least be bleeding in the end.

Basically it's not a fair fight. I would suggest if a man is being hit by a woman that he just removes himself. Walk away. Hitting her back will only make you look like a jerk. Plus you risk the chance of her calling the police. (in which case YOUR @$$ will be going to jail, even if she threw the first punch)
avisitor
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Apr 3 2011, 12:47 AM) *
icon_neutral.gif a fatal blow = a deadly hit that CAN caused death, not necessarily WILL kill you. there is a slight difference in the meaning of this word. you need to confront an english teacher to explain or ask someone in here with good english skill.

Make up your own definitions??? Do you, now???
What does "Fatal" mean???

Fatal
–adjective
causing or capable of causing death; mortal; deadly: a fatal accident; a fatal dose of poison.

A fatal dose of poison will kill you if you take it. There is no "not necessarily WILL kill you"
A fatal accident means that there was a death. There is no "not necessarily Will kill you" .. you're dead.

Don't talk about a fatal dose of poison being capable of killing but "not necessarily WILL kill you"
If you take it then it will kill you.

In a court of law, three guys beat up and kill another person
the DA asks who gave the "fatal blow". The meaning is clear ... fatal blow means the blow that killed

If you take a "fatal" fall off a cliff then it means you dies from the fall

What world do you live in which a fatal blow "CAN cause death, not necessarily Will kill you"???
InitialDJay
QUOTE (avisitor @ Apr 4 2011, 11:04 AM) *
Make up your own definitions??? Do you, now???
What does "Fatal" mean???

Fatal
–adjective
causing or capable of causing death; mortal; deadly: a fatal accident; a fatal dose of poison.

A fatal dose of poison will kill you if you take it. There is no "not necessarily WILL kill you"
A fatal accident means that there was a death. There is no "not necessarily Will kill you" .. you're dead.

Don't talk about a fatal dose of poison being capable of killing but "not necessarily WILL kill you"
If you take it then it will kill you.

In a court of law, three guys beat up and kill another person
the DA asks who gave the "fatal blow". The meaning is clear ... fatal blow means the blow that killed

If you take a "fatal" fall off a cliff then it means you dies from the fall

What world do you live in which a fatal blow "CAN cause death, not necessarily Will kill you"???

dude, the word "CAN and WILL" have slightly different meaning. one is absolute outcome, the other is possible outcome.

for example, a bullet can be a fatal weapon. meaning a bullet CAN kill you, but not neccesarily WILL kill you because there is other factors such as location of the injury, how big is the bullet point, what gun is using to shoot, etc..?

likewise, a fatal punch. can a punch kill a person? YES, but would it absolutely kill a person? NO. depends on different factors.

okay, let use your poison example. in theory, a poison will kill a person. but in reality, it doesn't ALWAYS kill a person. get it? there's ppl who can survive after taking a poison. again, there's other factors involved to give a definite outcome. so what ya think of my explanation? lol did i make sense or not? laugh.gif
avisitor
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Apr 4 2011, 12:37 AM) *
dude, the word "CAN and WILL" have slightly different meaning. one is absolute outcome, the other is possible outcome.

Dude, where's my car??
When you say that someone sustained a fatal blow, it means the blow was fatal. It killed.
No if and or buts ... it killed. Undertsand??

QUOTE
for example, a bullet can be a fatal weapon. meaning a bullet CAN kill you, but not neccesarily WILL kill you because there is other factors such as location of the injury, how big is the bullet point, what gun is using to shoot, etc..?

Dude, a bullet is a projectile or ammo. It is not in itself a weapon.
Also, the moment you say it "can be fatal" means that it is possible but not necessarily. Because of the words "it can be"
Not because a fatal shot doesn't kill. A fatal shot means it killed.

QUOTE
likewise, a fatal punch. can a punch kill a person? YES, but would it absolutely kill a person? NO. depends on different factors.

See, there you go again. A fatal punch means the punch killed. Then you talk about ordinary punch. quite different.

QUOTE
okay, let use your poison example. in theory, a poison will kill a person. but in reality, it doesn't ALWAYS kill a person. get it? there's ppl who can survive after taking a poison. again, there's other factors involved to give a definite outcome. so what ya think of my explanation? lol did i make sense or not? laugh.gif

Yes, if you just say poison. But "fatal poison" always kills when ingested ...
unless the stomach gets pumped out before the poison takes effect.
But, then it wouldn't be "fatal"

Do you understand yet??? Or do you want to cling to your definitions???
InitialDJay
QUOTE (avisitor @ Apr 5 2011, 11:14 AM) *
Dude, where's my car??
When you say that someone sustained a fatal blow, it means the blow was fatal. It killed.
No if and or buts ... it killed. Undertsand??


Dude, a bullet is a projectile or ammo. It is not in itself a weapon.
Also, the moment you say it "can be fatal" means that it is possible but not necessarily. Because of the words "it can be"
Not because a fatal shot doesn't kill. A fatal shot means it killed.


See, there you go again. A fatal punch means the punch killed. Then you talk about ordinary punch. quite different.


Yes, if you just say poison. But "fatal poison" always kills when ingested ...
unless the stomach gets pumped out before the poison takes effect.
But, then it wouldn't be "fatal"

Do you understand yet??? Or do you want to cling to your definitions???

lol this is from the definition you put.

Fatal
–adjective
causing or capable of causing death; mortal; deadly: a fatal accident; a fatal dose of poison.

the key word is "capable"... it has hidden reference to possible in it, not absolute.
avisitor
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Apr 5 2011, 01:34 AM) *
lol this is from the definition you put.

Fatal
–adjective
causing or capable of causing death; mortal; deadly: a fatal accident; a fatal dose of poison.

the key word is "capable"... it has hidden reference to possible in it, not absolute.

If you don't take a fatal dose of poison then it is capable of causing death. Take it and it will cause death. Understand???
Why is it that you still cling to your definition??
Capable means that it has the potential of causing death. Or ability to cause death.
When you said that someone gives you a fatal blow then it means it killed you. Simple.

You are trying very hard to twist things around.
Please go to your teachers and ask if a "fatal blow" to the head causes death
or better yet, ask an Assistant District Attorney. The definitions are clear.
Why are you having such a hard time understanding what "fatal" means???

"The blow to the head was fatal. But he got up and walked away." ... no one in their right mind would write it like that.
BlkLady2001
Women hitting men is the most ignorant thing I've can conceive of.

So basically a cat decided to haul off and go nuts on a rottweiler...and has the nerve to not expect to get friggin mollywopped!
Okay.

My mom has told me that in all her 38 years of marriage to my dad, they've had some REALLY, REALLY rough arguments, but she's never even THOUGHT to put her hands on my dad and he's never done the same.
I tell everybody, keep your hands to yourself. Women especially need to do so because not only are men human and thus imperfect, they're physically stronger imperfect humans. If you don't want to be hit, don't hit him and then try and cry foul if he slips up and forgets that you're a girl because you didn't want to act like one...

Of course, I don't condone violence for any reason...but I'm not stupid either and I know I don't like being tested so why do that to a dude?
samnang
i'll hit back.

if woman wants to fight like a man, she can take a punch like one.
JakeCutter
That's hot ^
Mizz_Luv3r
I have never wanted to intentionally hit a man. I don't feel the need to phsycially let my anger out on someone. I don't think women should get away with hitting their men either. If she hits you like a man, deal with her like a man.
Henry123
These days its consider Assault either way. Yep even a woman hitting a man can cause her to get arrested.
Henry123
QUOTE (ReginaRae @ Apr 3 2011, 05:09 AM) *
Basically it's not a fair fight. I would suggest if a man is being hit by a woman that he just removes himself. Walk away. Hitting her back will only make you look like a jerk. Plus you risk the chance of her calling the police. (in which case YOUR @$$ will be going to jail, even if she threw the first punch)

Regardless both can face charges these days.
If she hits him. She could be charge.
If he hits her (and that he was under no substantial physical threat from her) he could be charged too.


I remember a case (it was on the news) where a woman slapped a male officer after getting a speeding ticket. She was arrested and charged with assault.
felltohell
there is a pattern in domestic violence wherein most of the batterers are men.
i am extremely against violence on both men and women.

but some instances of battering can be understood when they are results of previous violence and the victim who has become the batterer as a result of a previous assault may have acted on the basis of lack of social, moral, and family support. i watched this movie based on the story of a battered wife who cut her husband's penis while he was asleep. the wife did it after her husband gave her to a friend as a gift in exchange for a political career.
avisitor
I can't conceive of ever hitting a woman except in self defense.

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