Cabinet Presidium Circular SE-06/Pres-Kab/6/1967 on Changing the Term China and Chinese, requiring the usage of the term "Cina" (considered a derogatory term by many Chinese Indonesians instead of "Tionghoa" or "Tiongkok" (used by ethnic Chinese themselves).

WHEN the Indonesian-language service of Radio Australia broadcast the news that Indonesia and China had decided to resume diplomatic relations from today after a 23-year break, newsreaders referred to China as the RRC, an abbreviation of Republik Rakyat Cina , or People's Republic of China.

When the Indonesian service of Japan's NHK broadcasting network carried the same news, it referred instead to the RRT, an abbreviation of Republik Rakyat Tiongkok. The meaning is the same but the spelling of China is different, and thereby hangs a tale that deserves closer attention.

Radio Australia, following recommendations of the Indonesian Government, uses the word "Cina" (pronounced "cheena") to refer both to China as a country and to Chinese as people. Australian diplomats are supposed to do the same when speaking Indonesian.

The Japanese broadcasting network refuses to do so. It feels the word"Cina" is pejorative, derogatory and racist, having been introduced by Indonesia's military-led Government as a deliberate put-down during a wave of anti-Chinese hysteria following the abortive left-wing coup attempt in 1965.

Chinese-Indonesians have adopted the term Tionghoa to identify themselves. The term ‘Cina' is deemed to be derogatory today due to its unfortunate racist usage in the past.

President Bacharuddin Habibie's landmark speech at the weekend may have opened the way for a new era in traditionally fragile Sino-Indonesian relations, diplomats and analysts said yesterday.

His use of the old Indonesian word Tionghoa for ethnic Chinese instead of the derogatory Cina in an olive branch to riot victims cuts to the heart of a long-standing dispute.

The words officially changed in 1967 shortly after ex-president Suharto's rise to power as part of a package of measures outlawing Chinese language and culture - many of which remain today.

"We have known for a long time that the ethnic Chinese hate to be called Cina," Chinese Embassy counsellor Duan Zengoi said. "We have raised the issue many times but both sides have failed to agree."

Emotions ran so high between Beijing and Jakarta that they almost derailed normalisation talks in 1990.

The word row meant that normalisation documents were signed only in English, with disagreements surfacing over both the Chinese and Indonesian versions.

wow, u two have such a good time 'brown-nosing' and 'buttering' each other up!!! it's so gay!!!!!1

And ellexo is an old chinese gentleman who's retired and dedicated to cultivating islamophobia in his spare time. Why? Perhaps he's one of the chinese minorities who like to sow discord in a multiracial society from afar, and watch the war of words begin. Whether it leads to a racial war in real life, he would just sit back and reap his karma.
I have old uncles and aunties in my family who behave like Mr Ellexo, in that they can only say bad things about Malay people or muslims because they are racist deep down.

i can't stand the chinese for being so racist and ethnically driven to belittle other ethnics and faiths

Sometimes I wish we could just move this red dot out of this ulu neighborhood! Somewhere in the Mediterranean would be fab!

yes, laos, burma and singabloodypore?

No self respecting Chinese nor Singaporean would ever show such hatreds towards their own. Then there is the quality of her comments which speak volume about her values, her family up bringing and her level of education. Pity she didn't take on my advice below:

wow, u two have such a good time 'brown-nosing' and 'buttering' each other up!!! it's so gay!!!!!1

And ellexo is an old chinese gentleman who's retired and dedicated to cultivating islamophobia in his spare time. Why? Perhaps he's one of the chinese minorities who like to sow discord in a multiracial society from afar, and watch the war of words begin. Whether it leads to a racial war in real life, he would just sit back and reap his karma.
I have old uncles and aunties in my family who behave like Mr Ellexo, in that they can only say bad things about Malay people or muslims because they are racist deep down.

i can't stand the chinese for being so racist and ethnically driven to belittle other ethnics and faiths

Sometimes I wish we could just move this red dot out of this ulu neighborhood! Somewhere in the Mediterranean would be fab!

yes, laos, burma and singabloodypore?

$hitypoop is a typical xenophobic sinocentric chauvinist, I bet he/she is a wimpy lame antisocial pathetic dude/dudette in the real life, and internet is a haven to express his/her hatred and frustation to the world. I agree with you, $hittypoop a disgrace for his people. While you Tanga are an example of fairness, honesty, and good Singaporean, we all know that.

talk about an avid fan following up on old posts....

the folks on this forum know me more than you aunty chutzpah....

they know YOU ARE the chinese chauvinist and they have made it plain clear!

why do u have to bang your pea-brain on the wall trying to paint others as anti-chinese?

Take a look in the mirror and see that chinese chauvinism in you won't get you anywhere

I come from SINGAPORE and it is a tiny island state whose success story has gotten so much into some of their citizenry's head they don't know how to be friendly and courteous anymore! YOU ARE LIKE THAT!

A chinese chauvinist and Islamophobic $hit stirrer!!

In most of your postings in Msia and Indo chats, you persistently belittle all Malays and Indonesians in your posts on islam and extrapolate the ideologies of fundamentalists onto the mass of muslims.

In most of your postings in Msia and Indo chats, you persistently belittle all Malays and Indonesians in your posts on islam and extrapolate the ideologies of fundamentalists onto the mass of muslims.

Where's that 8 inch mouth of yours spouting caustic remarks gone all of sudden? I miss it!

In most of your postings in Msia and Indo chats, you persistently belittle all Malays and Indonesians in your posts on islam and extrapolate the ideologies of fundamentalists onto the mass of muslims.

cina please!

Penggunaan istilah Cina, China, dan Tiongkok

Penggunaan istilah Cina, China, dan Tiongkok adalah kontroversi penggunaan istilah Cina, China, dan Tiongkok secara resmi dan benar politis (politically correct), dan ditinjau dari tata cara penggunaan bahasa serta hukum di Indonesia.

Sejarah Cina
Istilah Cina berasal dari nama Ahala (wangsa atau dinasti) Qin (baca Ch'in), dinasti 'Chin' (abad 3SM) merupakan dinasti pertama yang mempersatukan seluruh daratan Tiongkok di bawah sebuah pemerintahan pusat yang sangat kuat dan besar pengaruhnya. Walaupun masa pemerintahan dinasti itu tidak lama (sekitar 225 SM sampai 210 SM), dinasti ini mendirikan kerajaan pertama dan merintis bentuk kerajaan yang berjalan terus selama lebih dari 2000 tahun sampai revolusi republik pada tahun 1913.

Menurut hasil riset Leo Suryadinata, istilah Cina telah digunakan sejak awal abad-17. Teks-teks semi klasik di Cina sendiri sempat menggunakan istilah Zhina

Kekaisaran Chin terkenal karena di bawah kaisar pertamanya Shih Huang Ti (penulisan Kaisar Qin) dibangun pemerintahan terpusat dalam bentuk kekaisaran, dan selama pemerintahannya dilakukan pembakuan ukuran dan berat, ketepatan, dan sistem penulisan. Kaisar itu memerintahkan pembangunan tembok besar sepanjang 2400 KM untuk mempertahankan diri dari serangan bangsa Barbar. Bangga akan dinasti 'Chin' yang menjadi tonggak sejarah pendirian imperium pertama, Tembok Raksasa Cina, rintisan tulisan Chin, serta keteraturan dan ketertiban pemerintahan, orang-orang yang tinggal di negeri itu menyebut diri mereka sebagai 'orang-orang (dari negeri) Chin,' sehingga ketika terjadi perjumpaan dengan negara-negara Barat, negara itu disebut sebagai China dan orangnya disebut Chinese.

Sekitar abad ke-7 bangsa Chin masuk ke Indonesia pada awal abad ke-7, bangsa Inggris menyebutnya sebagai Chinese overseas dan di Indonesia disebut sebagai "Cina perantauan", kemudian masuk ke seluruh pelosok tanah air. Sejak abad ke-11, ratusan ribu bangsa Chin memasuki kawasan Indonesia terutama di pesisir utara pulau Jawa, pesisir selatan dan timur Sumatera, serta pesisir barat Kalimantan.

Pada awal kedatangan para perantau yang disebut "Cina baru" atau "singkeh" ini, mereka hidup melarat karena memulai kehidupan mereka dari nol. Pola hidup mereka sangat sederhana, hidup sangat hemat, dan terkesan kikir. Hal ini masih sering dijadikan mitos atau stereotipe orang Cina bersifat pelit dan egois. Kemudian mereka membentuk koloni "kampung Cina" atau 'Pecinan', sehingga dikenal istilah Cina menjadi populer. Misalnya untuk menyebut makanan seperti dodol Cina dan petai Cina, selain itu juga untuk menyebut tempat seperti bidara Cina dan kuburan Cina. Kemudian, di kawasan perkotaan yang banyak bermukim orang Cina populer istilah Pecinan. Dalam perbauran dengan budaya lokal dikenal wayang 'Po Te Hi' yang salah satu tokohnya disebut sebagai 'Puteri Cina'.

Istilah yang digunakan untuk Cina dalam berbagai bahasa dunia

Kekuasaan Kaisar Qin dan kerajaannya telah memunculkan istilah-istilah yang berasal dari nama dinasti itu.

Orang Rusia memakai istilah "Kitai"
Orang Arab mengatakan "Shin", yang sampai sekarang masih sering dikutip sabda Nabi Muhammad SAW
“ Uthlubul ‘ilma walaw bishshiin ”
— diriwayatkan oleh Anas bin Malik

Dalam bahasa Indonesia dikutip menjadi

“ Tuntutlah ilmu sampai ke negeri Cina ”

Kata yang mengacu ke Cina dalam Bahasa Jepang modern adalah "Zugoku", yang mirip bunyi dan artinya dengan "Zhonnguo" atau Tiongkok. Istilah Tionghoa berasal dari kata Zhonghua yang sebelum akhir abad ke-19 di Cina sendiri istilah itu belum digunakan secara umum.
Dalam bahasa Jawa digunakan "Cino", "Wong Cino", atau "Cinten" (merujuk pada orangnya) dalam pemakaian umum tanpa ada maksud melecehkan.
Di Indonesia istilah Cina telah digunakan secara umum semenjak kedatangan pertama orang Cina hingga sekarang.

Keberatan akan istilah Cina di Indonesia
Kelaliman Dinasti dan Kaisar Qin
Kaisar Qin juga dikenal sangat kejam, ia pemeluk aliran Legalis (Fajia) yang ajarannya sangat berlawanan dengan ajaran Kong Hu Cu. Atas perintahnya dilakukan pembakaran buku-buku ajaran Kong Hu Cu, dan memerintahkan hukuman dikubur hidup-hidup terhadap 500 sarjana Konfusianisme. Akibat dari tindakan brutal Kaisar Qin itu, beberapa orang Cina lebih suka menyebut diri mereka dengan kata "Tangren" yang kurang lebih berarti "keturunan Ahala Tang" salah satu dinasti yang meninggalkan zaman keemasan terutama dalam kesenian dan kesusastraan dalam sejarah Cina. Di kalangan etnis Cina di Indonesia, terutama yang berasal dari propinsi Fujian (Hokkian), sebutan itu menjadi "Tenglang".

Penjajahan
Di CinaPada tahun 1850, di Cina terjadi pemberontakan 'Taiping' (1850) dan Boxer (1900) yang merintis revolusi di tahun 1913. Ini mengakibatkan sikap antipati yang besar kepada bangsa Barat, sehingga dengan meningkatnya harga diri bangsa ini, kemudian mereka menolak sebutan China dan kembali pada premordialisme kebangsaan dan menyebut negeri mereka sebagai 'Chung-Kuo' atau 'Negara Tengah'

Pada Restorasi Meiji 1868, Jepang muncul sebagai salah satu negara adikuasa. Para pemimpin Jepang menjelang abad ke-20 sadar akan akar kebudayaan mereka yang berasal dari tanah Tiongkok, namun di sisi lain mereka melihat akan kebobrokan masyarakat dan pemerintahan Cina masa itu yang tengah berada di bawah penjajahan bangsa asing. Atas dasar itu, Cina dan bangsa Cina harus diselamatkan dari jurang penghinaan itu dengan cara mengenyahkan penjajahan bangsa Barat. Penyerbuan Jepang atas Cina yang terjadi beberapa kali sejak akhir abad ke-19 sampai pertengahan abad ke-20 didasari pada 'tugas suci' itu. Misi penyelamatan ini lalu berubah menjadi kolonialisme dan imperialisme. Istilah "Shina" yang dipakai orang Jepang lalu digunakan untuk menghina.

Di Indonesia

Di Indonesia, bangsa dari negeri Cina yang sudah lebih dahulu menguasai perdagangan di Indonesia selama beberapa ratus tahun bentrok dengan pendatang baru bangsa Barat, khususnya Belanda. Sehingga pada tahun 1740 di Batavia, kemudian disusul kota-kota lain, mereka memberontak terhadap dominasi VOC, akibatnya VOC dan pemerintah Belanda memberikan beberapa konsesi kepada bangsa perantau ini berupa pemberian hak-hak istimewa, bahkan kemudian mereka dianggap sebagai penduduk Timur Asing yang dianggap setingkat lebih tinggi dari warga penduduk asli.

Status istimewa ini mengakibatkan pandangan buruk penduduk pribumi terhadap para perantau Cina. Pertama karena kolaborasi mereka dengan penjajah dan praktik perdagangan yang bercorak Quanxi (koneksi/kolusi) dan merugikan masyarakat pribumi, serta banyak perilaku mereka yang menunjukkan kesenangan akan judi dan pemadat.

Penggunaan istilah Tiongkok dan Tionghoa
Sekitar akhir abad ke-19 diambilah jalan tengah penggunaan istilah Tiongkok yang diambil dari terjemahan Chung Kuo. Pada tahun 1901, didirikan organisasi Tiong Hoa Hwee Kwan yang dipengaruhi oleh gerakan pembaruan di daratan Tiongkok. Organisasi ini dipimpin oleh Kang Yu Wei, Liang Chi Chao, dan Phoa Keng Hek di Jakarta. Organisasi ini bertujuan mengembangkan adat-istiadat dan tradisi Tionghoa sesuai ajaran-ajaran Kong Hu Cu dan mengembangkan ilmu pengetahuan, terutama di bidang tulis-menulis dan bahasa. Penggunaan kata Tionghoa juga terpengaruh gerakan Sun Yat-sen untuk meruntuhkan dinasti Ching dan menggantinya dengan "Chung Hwa Ming Kuo" atau "Republik Tiongkok". Sejak saat itu, mereka menyebut diri mereka dengan istilah Tionghoa, yaitu dialek Hokkian dari kata bahasa Mandarin Chung Hwa, dan menolak disebut Cina.

Pada tahun 1928, tokoh pergerakan Indonesia yang merasa "berhutang budi" kepada masyarakat Tionghoa karena koran-korannya banyak memuat tulisan pemimpin pergerakan tersebut. Sepakat mengganti sebutan Cina dengan Tionghoa. Koran Sin Po adalah koran pertama yang mengganti sebutan Hindia-Belanda menjadi Indonesia pada setiap penerbitannya, dan juga koran pertama yang memuat teks lagu Indonesia Raya ciptaan W.R. Supratman. Dalam teks penjelasan UUD 1945 kata yang digunakan adalah Tionghoa, bukan Cina. Semua itu terus berlangsung sampai jatuhnya Pemerintahan Presiden Soekarno, digantikan rezim Orde Baru.

Sejak itu istilah "Tionghoa" digunakan bersama sebagai padanan istilah "Cina" yang sudah populer lebih dahulu.

Pada tahun 1948, pada masa pemerintahan Presiden Soekarno selepas kemerdekaan, Indonesia mengalami keadaan genting menyangkut keberadaan dan penamaan "Cina" dan "Tionghoa". Adanya pemberontakan PKI di Madiun disinyalir mendapat dukungan dari Partai Komunis di RRC dan adanya dukungan dari beberapa Tionghoa, akibatnya secara umum Tionghoa dicurigai secara politik.

Pelarangan penggunaan istilah Tiongkok dan Tionghoa
Karena perkembangan politik yang semakin kacau, muncullah larangan tak resmi penggunaan istilah Tionghoa dikarenakan istilah ini digunakan oleh partai komunisme.

Konflik yang menyangkut etnis Cina atau Tionghoa pun makin meruncing, sehingga pada tahun 1957 dikeluarkan Peraturan Pemerintah Nomor 10 Tahun 1959 yaitu larangan perdagangan bagi semua orang yang masih memiliki kewarganegaraan Cina di Daerah Tingkat II. Pada tahun 1959, orang Cina dipersilakan memilih menjadi warga negara tanah leluhur (WNA) atau WNI. Konflik ini kemudian meluas, puncaknya terjadi peristiwa rasialisme pada 10 Mei 1963 di Bandung dan menjalar ke beberapa kota lainnya. (Lihat pula SBKRI)

Terjadinya Gerakan 30 September pada tahun 1965 dan kecurigaan akan dukungan RRC (yang saat itu di Indonesia disebut sebagai RRT yang merupakan singkatan dari Republik Rakyat Tiongkok) membuat pemerintahan Orde Baru pada tahun 1967 mengeluarkan Instruksi Presiden Nomor 14 Tahun 1967 yang melarang segala kegiatan keagamaan, kepercayaan, dan adat-istiadat Cina dilakukan di Indonesia, pengubahan sebutan kata Tionghoa-Tiongkok kembali menggunakan kata Cina dan mengubah singkatan RRT menjadi RRC (Republik Rakyat Cina), serta Taiwan yang dengan nama Republik Cina (Republic of China). Tahun itu pula dikeluarkan Surat Edaran Presidium Kabinet Ampera Nomor 06 Tahun 1967 dan Keputusan Menteri Perdagangan dan Koperasi Nomor 286/KP/XII/1978 yang isinya menganjurkan bahwa WNI keturunan yang masih menggunakan tiga nama untuk menggantinya dengan nama Indonesia sebagai upaya asimilasi. Bakin juga berperan mengawasi gerak-gerik masyarakat Cina melalui sebuah badan yang bernama Badan Koordinasi Masalah Cina (BKMC) terpaut dengan masalah komunisme.

Pencabutan Inpres Nomor 14 tahun 1967
Pada masa pemerintahan Presiden Abdurrahman Wahid Instruksi Presiden (Inpres) Nomor 14 tahun 1967 dicabut dan diganti dengan Keppres 6 Tahun 2000, namun surat edarannya tidak, hingga tahun 2004 etnis Tionghoa masih memperjuangkan dicabutnya surat edaran ini.

Kompromi diplomatik dan penggunaan di media
Pada awal 1990-an, diadakan pertemuan antara Pemerintah RRC dan Kamar Dagang dan Industri Indonesia (KADIN). Saat perundingan ini terjadi untuk membuka kembali hubungan diplomatik antara Republik Indonesia dan Republik Rakyat Tiongkok (RRT) ada ganjalan dalam penyebutan nama negara. Pemerintah RI ingin mempertahankan sebutan Republik Rakyat Cina dan sebaliknya pemerintah RRT ingin menyebut dirinya Republik Rakyat Tiongkok. Setelah perundingan yang cukup alot, diambil jalan tengah dengan memperkenalkan penggunaan kata China (baca: Chai-na) dari bahasa Inggris. Kompromi diplomatik ini menyebabkan kekeliruan bahasa, dalam kosakata bahasa Indonesia pengucapan "China" mengikuti cara mengucapkannya tetap saja "c-i-n-a" sehingga sebutannya menjadi Republik Rakyat China (RRC). Pengucapan ini digunakan oleh MetroTV, stasiun TV nasional Indonesia, dengan pengucapan patuh keliru atau tidak taat azas bahasa. Penulisannya sendiri digunakan oleh surat kabar Kompas dan seluruh jajaran penerbitan Kompas-Gramedia sekitar tahun 2006. Pada tahun yang sama, Jawa Pos media yang sirkulasinya sebagian besar di Indonesia Timur menggunakan istilah Tionghoa dan Tiongkok.
Situs web kedutaan besar RRC menggunakan istilah "Tiongkok", namun tidak konsisten, contohnya dengan pengecualian penamaan "Laut China Selatan".
Istilah Cina sendiri telah digunakan untuk menamakan tempat, kutipan, nama ilmiah tanaman, judul-judul buku yang sudah beredar, dan kebudayaan. Contohnya "Pecinan", "pacar cina" (tumbuhan), "Lebaran Cina" (penamaan perayaan Imlek oleh masyarakat Betawi), "Laut Cina Selatan", atau "Geger Pacinan" (pemberontakan Sunan Kuning di Kartasura pada masa Pakubuwono II).
Perjanjian Kemitraan Strategis antara Indonesia-Cina secara resmi ditandatangani pada 25 April 2005 antara Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono dan Presiden Hu Jintao pada dan disebutkan pada pidato "50 Tahun Kerjasama Kebudayaan RI-RRT" yang diselenggarakan di Arena Pekan Raya Jakarta.

My dear sad li'l old got jilted self loathing menopausal wilted oldmaid, the ones spouting caustic remarks are the li'l-3some which comprises of your sad pathetic self, DELirious and Majapahitan$hit. On the other hand, I am generously just casting pearly wisdom sadly to swines like you dear.

So instead of wishing you own a Louboutan, you still must be taken to task dear:

Care to substantiate your claim?

*sedang membayangkan apa yg akan terjadi jika mas Purnomor ketemu sama si chutzpah ini*

Hahahaha

Cabinet Presidium Circular SE-06/Pres-Kab/6/1967 on Changing the Term China and Chinese, requiring the usage of the term "Cina" (considered a derogatory term by many Chinese Indonesians instead of "Tionghoa" or "Tiongkok" (used by ethnic Chinese themselves).

WHEN the Indonesian-language service of Radio Australia broadcast the news that Indonesia and China had decided to resume diplomatic relations from today after a 23-year break, newsreaders referred to China as the RRC, an abbreviation of Republik Rakyat Cina , or People's Republic of China.

When the Indonesian service of Japan's NHK broadcasting network carried the same news, it referred instead to the RRT, an abbreviation of Republik Rakyat Tiongkok. The meaning is the same but the spelling of China is different, and thereby hangs a tale that deserves closer attention.

Radio Australia, following recommendations of the Indonesian Government, uses the word "Cina" (pronounced "cheena") to refer both to China as a country and to Chinese as people. Australian diplomats are supposed to do the same when speaking Indonesian.

The Japanese broadcasting network refuses to do so. It feels the word"Cina" is pejorative, derogatory and racist, having been introduced by Indonesia's military-led Government as a deliberate put-down during a wave of anti-Chinese hysteria following the abortive left-wing coup attempt in 1965.

Chinese-Indonesians have adopted the term Tionghoa to identify themselves. The term ‘Cina' is deemed to be derogatory today due to its unfortunate racist usage in the past.

President Bacharuddin Habibie's landmark speech at the weekend may have opened the way for a new era in traditionally fragile Sino-Indonesian relations, diplomats and analysts said yesterday.

His use of the old Indonesian word Tionghoa for ethnic Chinese instead of the derogatory Cina in an olive branch to riot victims cuts to the heart of a long-standing dispute.

The words officially changed in 1967 shortly after ex-president Suharto's rise to power as part of a package of measures outlawing Chinese language and culture - many of which remain today.

"We have known for a long time that the ethnic Chinese hate to be called Cina," Chinese Embassy counsellor Duan Zengoi said. "We have raised the issue many times but both sides have failed to agree."

Emotions ran so high between Beijing and Jakarta that they almost derailed normalisation talks in 1990.

The word row meant that normalisation documents were signed only in English, with disagreements surfacing over both the Chinese and Indonesian versions.

There is only one reason why some women get so nasty, vindictive, and unsociable, their hormones need rebalancing. She,T, should see a GP as she is getting worse by the day.

In most of your postings in Msia and Indo chats, you persistently belittle all Malays and Indonesians in your posts on islam and extrapolate the ideologies of fundamentalists onto the mass of muslims.

My ethnic Chinese friend always used the Cina word, even sometimes, Cinere, a very slangy term for Chinese. Tionghoa while sounds correct and all, seems very stiff and too formal, and I think we've very much moved on with all these previous socio-political baggages that is attached to the word Cina and are very comfortable with our own skin- as much as we call other people Jawa, Batak, Padang etc. And trust me, these name can meant very negative too, depends on the connotation and intonation, just like the word Cina.

RI embassy protests use of ‘Indon’ in Malaysian headlines
The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Thu, 02/03/2011 11:51 AM | National A | A | A |
The Indonesian Embassy in Kuala Lumpur has protested the recent publication in the Malaysian media of the term “Indon” in a news headline, a word often used by Malaysians to describe Indonesians, and regarded by many as derogatory.
Embassy spokesman Suryana Sastradiredja said Malaysia’s Berita Harian had published a story titled “Indon’s Dirty Tactics” on the appointment of Indonesia as the host for the upcoming Sea Games.
The story featured an interview with Malaysia Olympiad Assembly (MOM) vice president W. Y. Chin, who said Indonesia had selected sporting events that would benefit its athletes.
“We’re disappointed and protest against the use of the term ‘Indon’ because the two heads of state have already agreed against using this term, including in the mass media,” Suryana said Wednesday, as quoted by Antara.
“We want no more writing of this kind, and a firm action taken against the writer.”
Suryana said Berita Harian had often used the term “Indon” in its articles citing Indonesia.
The embassy plans to send an official letter of complaint to the paper, questioning why it frequently used the term.

KUCHING: Acting consul general of the Consulate General of Indonesia here, Rubaya Talib, is appealing to Malaysians not to call Indonesians "Indons" but Indonesians.

"Please, call us 'Indonesians' and not 'Indons'", he said, adding that 'Indons' did not have any meaning at all.

"It seems very common for Malaysians, including those in Sarawak, to call Indonesians 'Indons' whereas even among Indonesians the word is not familiar at all, more so among us back in our country," Rubaya said.

"Those working here may have to bear with it but, generally, they are not happy with the use of 'Indons' to describe them," he told reporters at the breaking of fast dinner with the local media on Friday.

He said, in fact, many Indonesians, especially intellectuals back home, were also complaining and not happy with the word 'Indon' or 'Indons' because it was not right, therefore, a degradation to Indonesian dignity.

He also wished Malaysians would understand that not all Indonesians were bad people simply because a few were found to have committed crimes.

topic in malaysian forum discussing indon, http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?...=indon&st=0

My ethnic Chinese friend always used the Cina word, even sometimes, Cinere, a very slangy term for Chinese. Tionghoa while sounds correct and all, seems very stiff and too formal, and I think we've very much moved on with all these previous socio-political baggages that is attached to the word Cina and are very comfortable with our own skin- as much as we call other people Jawa, Batak, Padang etc. And trust me, these name can meant very negative too, depends on the connotation and intonation, just like the word Cina.

CHEENA
A pejorative term used to describe a 'mainlander', a Chinese national, a minor 'foreign talent' with the implied attributes of opportunism, rudeness and boorishness. Possibly originally derived from Peranakan (see Cheena Gherk, following), it is now popularly used to label a new generation of Chinese emigrants who have arrived in Singapore to seek their fortunes.
See also: CHEENA GHERK SINKEK

CHEENA GHERK
A pejorative term used by Peranakans to suggest something is low class. Probably from "China". "Cheena Beng" is an Ah Beng who is also "suah koo". Nowadays, "obiang" is the preferred epithet.
See also: Obiang

CHEENAPIANG/CHEENAPOK (Contributed by Crab)
A derogatory term used by Singaporeans who are more well-versed and comfortable in English to describe (insult) those who are more well versed in Chinese and who cannot speak English properly.
1. “Wah lau! He's super cheenapiang, man. Hear the way he speaks English!”
2. “Ah Lians and Ah Bengs are all cheenapoks!”
See also: Cheena Cheena Gherk

In Singapore, many of us chinese have an aversion to be labelled "Cheena". We don't ever spell it like you do "Cina". But Cheena is a perjorative term whose origin can explained as follows:

I just think that the term INDON implies the same sense of inferiority, low class, obiang, suah koo, fresh-of-the-boat connotation as CHEENA.

I always tought the word "Cina" is not offensive..., but if they want to be called "Tionghoa" or "Tiongkok", be my guest... but that a whole lots of letters... naah..
The way Metro TV call China as Chay-na (with english spelling) is totally wrong in Indonesian language's rule. Let just call them Cina, it's been done for centuries with no negative connotation applied...

Personally I don't care whether it is used or not. My aim is to expose the double standards and hypocrisy of those who are hell bent on forcing others not to use one term which initially has no negative meaning such as INDON and yet still persist to argue that CINA is never offensive. the word INDON is never considered offensive in both Singapore and Malaysia. Much like the term BUMI which is short for bumiputera. Some Indons are just too sentive I guess.

I think the term "Cina" (spelled as "Cee-na") can be an ethnic slur toward Chinese people for those who are in Indonesia, Malaysia, just like the word "ch!nks" in English.

Also the Japanese have "Shiina" (支那), and the Thais, Laotians have "Jek" to insult the Chinese people...

Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Indon abbr
Definition of INDON
Indonesia; Indonesian
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Abbreviations & Acronyms
Indon.
Indonesia
Indonesian
The American Heritage® Abbreviations Dictionary, Third Edition
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Web definitions
Indon is a short term for Indonesia and Indonesian, similar to Brit for Briton or British, that was used widely in Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei and The Philippines to refer Indonesia or Indonesian for short.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indon
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No where has it been indicated that using the word "Indon" is derogatory or insulting. On the other hand this is what I could find on "Indo"
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Indo-
combining form /ˈindō/ 
(used commonly in linguistic and ethnological terms) Indian; Indian and …
- Indo-Iranian
"Relating to India"

Web definitions
INDO stands for Intermediate Neglect of Differential Overlap. It is a semi-empirical quantum chemistry method that is a development of the complete neglect of differential overlap (CNDO/2) method introduced by John Pople. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INDO
"Indo or Indo-European or Eurasian people is a term used to describe people of mixed European and native Indonesian and/or Chinese Indonesian ancestry, in particular, people of Dutch and native Indonesian ancestry, and as a result are primarily found in The Netherlands and Indonesia, but also in ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo_(Eurasian)
indo - Instituto Nacional de Denominaciones de Origen, the Spanish government body, which is responsible for, amongst other things, the classification of (new) geographical regions of wine (Denominación de Origen or DO). Back to top
www.decanterwines.co.uk/page/spanishWineGlossary/
indo - + meth(yl) + ac(etic acid) + -in.
www.wordnik.com/words/indomethacin
Indo is slang for cannabis.
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Indo-
pref.
1. India; East Indies: Indochina.
2. Indo-European: Indo-Hittite.
[Greek, from Indos, the Indus River; see indigo.]
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language,
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Indo- definition
Indo- (in′dō)
India or the East Indies
India and
Indo-European: Indo-Hittite
Origin: Gr < Indos: see India
Indo-
prefix
India; East Indies: Indochina.
Indo-European: Indo-Hittite.
Origin: Greek, from Indos, the Indus River; see indigo .
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Indo-
Indo- combines with nationality adjectives to form adjectives which describe something as connected with both India and another country. prefix
...Indo-Pakistani talks.
English Collins Dictionary - English Definition & Thesaurus
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Again, it is often used as a prefix. There is no suggestion that it is derogatory or a preferred acronym for Indonesians anywhere. Hence as far as I can see, both acronyms are equally legitimate for common use with no insinuations implied. As I said, I am not taking sides on this issue, but I believe it is simply a misunderstanding on the use of words internationally and the colloquial interpretation of the word. It is not an issue of principle but of diction.[/i]

chutzpah, you are hopeless. its sad to see how you are trying to justify your behavior.

DEL why are you STALKING CHUTZPAH?

Stalking? thats a very weird accusation. Especially for a forum where people come to talk. The ones who are playing a game are you two.

chutzpah claims he is against discrimination and is fighting for small minorities, but he doesnt show respect and use terms that are derogatory.
I dont understand why he uses indon, while he clearly knows that it offend people. He says its to proof a point, but after it he still uses it and doesnt care about the other derogatory terms either. The only point he proved is that he is a disrespectful douchebag who isnt gonna achieve anything with the way how he plays it.

Ahhh! Del, you must be the towering example of showing respect? When was the last time you looked into the mirror? Do you respect someone who has a different view from your view? Is that called respect?

Or a Ducth Indon paragon of virtue....

chutzpah, you are hopeless. its sad to see how you are trying to justify your behavior.

Lol.

Ini masih perlu ditanya apa?

Cina dari jaman bahala emang kata kasar...

Makanya sekarang hampir semua buku cetak tulisnya Tionghoa...

DEL has a lot to learn. But he is only a young man enjoying the freedom of speech in Holland. I wonder if he listens to some of Geert Wilders speeches?

Hahahaha ..... progressive or not .... chutzpah is naturally still "Malaysian" ....

Just saying, N-gger and F-ag were in the dictionary too once as non-derogatory. Its sad how you guys ignore all these actions of the Indonesian and Malaysian government to ban this word. Even sadder, that you still use it when you know its derogatory for some. You know this is an Indonesian forum, so you know it will offend some, so you are out to. Highly disrespectful and childish.

Chutzpah, get your facts right. Pim Fortuyn wasn't killed by a muslim extremist, but an environmentalist. A dutchman, V van der Graaf.
T v Gogh must be the one you are referring to. He wasn't a politician, but a movie maker. He was killed by M. Bouyeri, a Muslim extremist, who was once reported by his own family and had to go to a psychic detaining center.

Hahahaha ..... progressive or not .... chutzpah is naturally still "Malaysian" ....

Words spelt out in a dictionary are legitimate words for international use, and in literature, and for anyone to infer that it offends them is a bit absurd, especially if there was no offence meant in the context of the sentence. It is making a mountain out of a molehill.

Hello? Pinoy is considered a derogatory word leh, did u know???

It is made offensive only a few years ago. It's borne out of irrational perception of themselves. Some like those trolling here have been growing a massive inferiority complex due to the huge numbers of Indon maids and labourers working overseas. This is also the reason why the Indon embassy in KL issued such statement. Yet we don't see such irrationality among the Filipinos whose country also exports even larger number of domestics and for alot longer. I guess the Indons don't like to see themselves as an exporters of domestics and labourers. There are many countries that fall into this catagory, such as Bangladesh, India, Laos, Burma, Nepal and Pakistan, these countries export mostly labourers.