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http://www.space-travel.com/reports/NASA_D...Launch_999.html

NASA Denies Entry To Chinese Journalists For Shuttle Launch

Press freedom is a two way street.
by Staff Writers
Washington DC (XNA) May 19, 2011
U.S. space shuttle Endeavour blasted off from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Monday, kicking off its 25th and final mission. The event was important to the eyes of media and scientists in China because the shuttle carries the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer-2 (AMS) particle detector, mankind's most ambitious effort to date to explore the universe' origin with Nobel laureate physicist Samuel Ting as the program's principal scientist.

The 7,000-kg AMS worth 2 billion U.S. dollars will be placed in the International Space Station (ISS) and an international team of more than 600 scientists, including many from China's mainland and Taiwan, have joined Ting's exhausting but respectable AMS program.

China's scientists have played a crucial role in designing and manufacturing some core parts of the device. However, Chinese journalists who hoped to cover the launching of Endeavour were simply denied entry to the site by a ban initiated by Frank Wolf, chairman of the Committee of Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies in the House of Representatives.

The United States' National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) revoked the media passes granted to journalists from China due to the ban, or the "Wolf Clause", which was regarded as "discriminative" by even Americans themselves.

On April 15, U.S. President Barack Obama signed into law the budget bill for fiscal year 2011 which will end on Sept. 30 after the House of Representatives passed it.

The bill included a clause which bans any China-U.S. joint scientific research activities related to NASA or coordinated by the White House's Science Policy Office.

Under the clause in the budget bill, none of the Congress-approved funds for the U.S. government "may be used for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or the Office of Science and Technology Policy to develop, design, plan, promulgate, implement, or execute a bilateral policy, program, order, or contract of any kind to participate, collaborate, or coordinate bilaterally in any way with China or any Chinese-owned company."

It also applies the limitation "to any funds used to effectuate the hosting of official Chinese visitors at facilities belonging to or utilized" by NASA.

As a result, Chinese journalists were denied the opportunity to make live coverage of the shuttle's blast-off, just as their peers from other countries have done. The Chinese journalists were also kept away from NASA's press conferences.

Obviously, the "Wolf Clause" runs counter to the trend that both China and the United States are trying to push ahead their exchanges and cooperation in science and technology.

During the third round of the China-U.S. Strategic and Economic Dialogue (S and ED) held in Washington earlier this month, the two sides published accomplishments of the dialogue, which includes the cooperation in science and technology.

Moreover, China and the U.S. this year renewed their bilateral agreements on scientific and technological cooperation.

The Obama administration also attached importance to the current development and trend of scientific and technological cooperation between China and the U.S. and realized the nature of mutual benefit brought about by such cooperation.

John P.Holdren, director of the Science and Technology Policy Office of the White House, has told Xinhua that the cooperation on science and technology was one of the most dynamic fields in bilateral relations between China and the United States.

The "Wolf Clause" exposed the anxiety of hawkish politicians in the United States over China's peaceful development in recent years, and it also demonstrated their shortsightedness to the whole world.

The "Wolf Clause" was a result of compromise made by Obama to Republicans to avoid possible bankruptcy of the U.S. government.

It is also a concession between U.S. Republicans and Democrats, but the "clause" will not in any way change the trend of the increasingly closer scientific and technological cooperation between China and the U.S.

In fact, the "Wolf Clause" has incurred criticism, even from some U.S. scientists.

Richard Milner, director of Laboratory for Nuclear Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), thought China's contribution to the project was "crucial".

The professor believed that the "Wolf Clause" was a "discriminative decision" and it would eventually hurt the U.S. itself.

As the unpopular clause came into effect, China's journalists became the first victims of the discriminative legislation by being turned away from the Kennedy Space Center.

Although the clause will terminate as the fiscal year 2011 ends in September, Wolf seemed unreconciled and claimed he will work to extend the ban to next year.

Today, while the Chinese and U.S. governments are deepening their cooperation, Wolf acted against the trend with a cold war mentality. This is something that should raise the vigilance of peace-loving people in the world.

Editor's note: This was a machine translated news report from China's Xinhua News Agency, and contains a fair number of grammatical errors. As a couple of reader have alerted us to, these errors make the copy difficult to fully understand. We plan to have an update on this report in the next couple of days from our China Space guy.
elleX0
QUOTE (Lens @ May 21 2011, 07:14 PM) *
http://www.space-travel.com/reports/NASA_D...Launch_999.html

NASA Denies Entry To Chinese Journalists For Shuttle Launch

Press freedom is a two way street.
by Staff Writers
Washington DC (XNA) May 19, 2011
U.S. space shuttle Endeavour blasted off from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Monday, kicking off its 25th and final mission. The event was important to the eyes of media and scientists in China because the shuttle carries the Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer-2 (AMS) particle detector, mankind's most ambitious effort to date to explore the universe' origin with Nobel laureate physicist Samuel Ting as the program's principal scientist.

The 7,000-kg AMS worth 2 billion U.S. dollars will be placed in the International Space Station (ISS) and an international team of more than 600 scientists, including many from China's mainland and Taiwan, have joined Ting's exhausting but respectable AMS program.

China's scientists have played a crucial role in designing and manufacturing some core parts of the device. However, Chinese journalists who hoped to cover the launching of Endeavour were simply denied entry to the site by a ban initiated by Frank Wolf, chairman of the Committee of Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies in the House of Representatives.

The United States' National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) revoked the media passes granted to journalists from China due to the ban, or the "Wolf Clause", which was regarded as "discriminative" by even Americans themselves.

On April 15, U.S. President Barack Obama signed into law the budget bill for fiscal year 2011 which will end on Sept. 30 after the House of Representatives passed it.

The bill included a clause which bans any China-U.S. joint scientific research activities related to NASA or coordinated by the White House's Science Policy Office.

Under the clause in the budget bill, none of the Congress-approved funds for the U.S. government "may be used for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or the Office of Science and Technology Policy to develop, design, plan, promulgate, implement, or execute a bilateral policy, program, order, or contract of any kind to participate, collaborate, or coordinate bilaterally in any way with China or any Chinese-owned company."

It also applies the limitation "to any funds used to effectuate the hosting of official Chinese visitors at facilities belonging to or utilized" by NASA.

As a result, Chinese journalists were denied the opportunity to make live coverage of the shuttle's blast-off, just as their peers from other countries have done. The Chinese journalists were also kept away from NASA's press conferences.

Obviously, the "Wolf Clause" runs counter to the trend that both China and the United States are trying to push ahead their exchanges and cooperation in science and technology.

During the third round of the China-U.S. Strategic and Economic Dialogue (S and ED) held in Washington earlier this month, the two sides published accomplishments of the dialogue, which includes the cooperation in science and technology.

Moreover, China and the U.S. this year renewed their bilateral agreements on scientific and technological cooperation.

The Obama administration also attached importance to the current development and trend of scientific and technological cooperation between China and the U.S. and realized the nature of mutual benefit brought about by such cooperation.

John P.Holdren, director of the Science and Technology Policy Office of the White House, has told Xinhua that the cooperation on science and technology was one of the most dynamic fields in bilateral relations between China and the United States.

The "Wolf Clause" exposed the anxiety of hawkish politicians in the United States over China's peaceful development in recent years, and it also demonstrated their shortsightedness to the whole world.

The "Wolf Clause" was a result of compromise made by Obama to Republicans to avoid possible bankruptcy of the U.S. government.

It is also a concession between U.S. Republicans and Democrats, but the "clause" will not in any way change the trend of the increasingly closer scientific and technological cooperation between China and the U.S.

In fact, the "Wolf Clause" has incurred criticism, even from some U.S. scientists.

Richard Milner, director of Laboratory for Nuclear Science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), thought China's contribution to the project was "crucial".

The professor believed that the "Wolf Clause" was a "discriminative decision" and it would eventually hurt the U.S. itself.

As the unpopular clause came into effect, China's journalists became the first victims of the discriminative legislation by being turned away from the Kennedy Space Center.

Although the clause will terminate as the fiscal year 2011 ends in September, Wolf seemed unreconciled and claimed he will work to extend the ban to next year.

Today, while the Chinese and U.S. governments are deepening their cooperation, Wolf acted against the trend with a cold war mentality. This is something that should raise the vigilance of peace-loving people in the world.

Editor's note: This was a machine translated news report from China's Xinhua News Agency, and contains a fair number of grammatical errors. As a couple of reader have alerted us to, these errors make the copy difficult to fully understand. We plan to have an update on this report in the next couple of days from our China Space guy.

"Racist" is the wrong word. "sinophobia" may be a better word.
Hugham
Tsk tsk tsk!

Kicked, just right after we deliver the devices.
InitialDJay
uncle sam is seriously got to be joking.
KraterosHellas
who cares. nasa is gonna fall behind anyways
Lens
Blacklist and ban any US businesses associated with Wolf from doing business in China; strike them where it hurts most.

orange peel
^ and what if those corporations have exactly the technology China needs to develop? We're not on equal footing with the US.
phop
This isn't the first time racist white fags done this. Look back into history in US in the building of the US railroad. And also the gold rush era, you see that the Chinese had developed far superior methods of extracting gold from river, the white men became jealous and decided to kick those chinese out by either terrorizing them or insult or passing laws that discriminate Chinese. That is why all chinese American Scientist should just go back to china and contribute their intelligence at home where they can improve their own people. You Chinese American scientist who work for your WHITE MASTER are nothing more than a TOOL, once your no use anymore, YOUR WHITE MASTER WILL JUST THROW YOU TO THE GARBAGE.
devils666
Funny how when China was limiting western journalists from covering the "jasmine revolution" they west was making a big deal out of it. They even did a report on CNN where they were filming random Chinese guys on the streets and calling them "police officers" and accused them of "beating western journalists up", although they had no proof. LOL.

Whites always use double standards.
Neoarkt
QUOTE (phop @ May 22 2011, 05:04 PM) *
This isn't the first time racist white fags done this. Look back into history in US in the building of the US railroad. And also the gold rush era, you see that the Chinese had developed far superior methods of extracting gold from river, the white men became jealous and decided to kick those chinese out by either terrorizing them or insult or passing laws that discriminate Chinese. That is why all chinese American Scientist should just go back to china and contribute their intelligence at home where they can improve their own people. You Chinese American scientist who work for your WHITE MASTER are nothing more than a TOOL, once your no use anymore, YOUR WHITE MASTER WILL JUST THROW YOU TO THE GARBAGE.


You do realise that you sound like a total racist bigot, right?

Anyway, back to the topic. While it is rather a pretty rude (and to an extent, racist) act by NASA to deny Chinese journalists entry, you also have to realise that the Chinese intelligence services are actively working to steal US technology.

http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.ph...e=Investigation
devils666
QUOTE (Neoarkt @ May 22 2011, 04:37 PM) *
You do realise that you sound like a total racist bigot, right?

Anyway, back to the topic. While it is rather a pretty rude (and to an extent, racist) act by NASA to deny Chinese journalists entry, you also have to realise that the Chinese intelligence services are actively working to steal US technology.

http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.ph...e=Investigation


Yeah, that's what the west always says in order to justify more military spending and more violence. Let's spend a Trillion dollars on defense so we can kill some cave dwellers! We must attack Afghanistan, Libya, and Iraq to fight terrorism (and steal oil)!

The US makes up imaginary threats just to justify EVIL deeds.
Neoarkt
QUOTE (devils666 @ May 22 2011, 11:45 PM) *
Yeah, that's what the west always says in order to justify more military spending and more violence. Let's spend a Trillion dollars on defense so we can kill some cave dwellers! We must attack Afghanistan, Libya, and Iraq to fight terrorism (and steal oil)!

The US makes up imaginary threats just to justify EVIL deeds.


You're mostly right there. The US (just the US, the rest of the West dont spend that much) spends alot on military, and that spending has been increasing more and more these recent years. However, I wouldn't consider the invasion of Afghanistan, nor the intervention across the skies of Libya a evil deed. The US do have a legitimate casus belli in these two conflicts, but Iraq is another thing.

But this still doesn't refute the fact that the Chinese intelligence services are trying to steal American technology.
devils666
QUOTE (Neoarkt @ May 22 2011, 04:52 PM) *
You're mostly right there. The US (just the US, the rest of the West dont spend that much) spends alot on military, and that spending has been increasing more and more these recent years. However, I wouldn't consider the invasion of Afghanistan, nor the intervention across the skies of Libya a evil deed. The US do have a legitimate casus belli in these two conflicts, but Iraq is another thing.

But this still doesn't refute the fact that the Chinese intelligence services are trying to steal American technology.


Judging by the US's history - i.e. lying about WMD's, the Bay of Pigs, etc...I don't trust them for a second. If Chinese "Hackers" are so great, why do they keep getting caught? And why are US companies now the same thing as the US government? I thought this was a democracy where they seperated private sectors from the government?

Since when was the USA the United States of Google? These companies sell technology to China for a high price and then they accuse China of "stealing". China stealing US "technology" is BS.
Titanium
Apparently all Chinese people are secretly working for the PRC government.

China just can't get no love............especially on E-World

http://bulletins.iwantabro.com/topic/74622

"Why is China the #1 source of disease for Earth?"

"The bubonic plague killed half the population of Europe. It came from China. That plague would never have come to North America had it not been because China was still having outbreaks in the early 20th Century! Over 100 people died in Los Angeles then, and now squirrels and chipmunks in the Western USA are a danger to approach thanks to this. Current terrors like the avian flu and SARS also come from China. Even plants have suffered because of Chinese disease: formerly bountiful American chestnut trees disappeared after Chinese chestnut blight has almost made them extinct.

Why is China such a source of filth and disease? Even much poorer Africa has never caused anything remotely as destructive as nasty China. (Even AIDS and Ebola are a joke compared to mass-murdering plague and influenza.)"

"I've often wondered about this myself, OP. Even the goddamn Africans seem to care more about hygiene than the Chinese. Filthy fu-ks. I think part of it comes from their very deeply woven sense of frugality. "


Just an endless cycle of hate LOL.
InitialDJay
QUOTE (phop @ May 23 2011, 12:04 AM) *
This isn't the first time racist white fags done this. Look back into history in US in the building of the US railroad. And also the gold rush era, you see that the Chinese had developed far superior methods of extracting gold from river, the white men became jealous and decided to kick those chinese out by either terrorizing them or insult or passing laws that discriminate Chinese. That is why all chinese American Scientist should just go back to china and contribute their intelligence at home where they can improve their own people. You Chinese American scientist who work for your WHITE MASTER are nothing more than a TOOL, once your no use anymore, YOUR WHITE MASTER WILL JUST THROW YOU TO THE GARBAGE.

calm down man.. your rant is not going to do jack$hit in the real world.

a prof of mine once revealed a full-time faculty he earned 6 figures number (5+ years of experience) + bonus package working with NASA jpl in the summer. when china can compete with this kind of compensation, they will fly to china like bugs.
phop
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ May 22 2011, 11:59 PM) *
calm down man.. your rant is not going to do jack$hit in the real world.

a prof of mine once revealed a full-time faculty he earned 6 figures number (5+ years of experience) + bonus package working with NASA jpl in the summer. when china can compete with this kind of compensation, they will fly to china like bugs.

When did i talk about how much they earn? Open your eyes you retard. I dont understand why you defend the hypocrite west so much. Tell me do they pay you 6 figures to do this? and some bonuses?
InitialDJay
QUOTE (phop @ May 23 2011, 03:24 PM) *
When did i talk about how much they earn? Open your eyes you retard. I dont understand why you defend the hypocrite west so much. Tell me do they pay you 6 figures to do this? and some bonuses?

are you stupid or something?

white master? are you joking? you're talking in english here, which is a WHITE MASTER's language. what a hypo.

i'm suggesting that money is the reason they're staying here for work. whatever you're trying to do here, it's embarrassing and certainly doesn't represent the chinese who works hard to make a decent living.

also, i am in no way defending west nor am i interesting in defending nationalistic stupidity.
phop
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ May 23 2011, 11:47 PM) *
are you stupid or something?

white master? are you joking? you're talking in english here, which is a WHITE MASTER's language. what a hypo.

i'm suggesting that money is the reason they're staying here for work. whatever you're trying to do here, it's embarrassing and certainly doesn't represent the chinese who works hard to make a decent living.

also, i am in no way defending west nor am i interesting in defending nationalistic stupidity.

You will be surprise how many stupid people worship white people like they are god.
arabianights
national security at stake, not contest here
InitialDJay
QUOTE (phop @ May 24 2011, 09:00 PM) *
You will be surprise how many stupid people worship white people like they are god.

rest assures that i'm aware of these asskissing worshipers. however, i play the game of majority vs minority. if what you're saying is only a minority group, then that is not my concern at all, and neither should you.

in fact, i'm okay with your nationalistic sentiment. in fact, it's great to show a bit of nationalistics to keep national unity. but what i don't agree with is that you're using this tool to degrade another groups (good chinese/white alike). so just criticize the main subjects.
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