http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EZN5gsfMzk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9-9A9tWXhM
http://sarangkpop.com/en/node/3871
Full Version: Korean wave is hitting France
Wow.. it's quite impressive 
Frankly, i didn't expect this degree of enthusiastic welcome.
It seems that i can see some possibility of Korean Wave in Europe.
Frankly, i didn't expect this degree of enthusiastic welcome.
It seems that i can see some possibility of Korean Wave in Europe.
It's funny 'cause I see no difference between them and Asian fangirls. Oh wait, I've seen Justin Bieber fangirls lol
Yesterday (a day before the concert):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIHB9cVGOzw
In front of the concert hall today:
Inside the concert hall today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDCFVywrN-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqN6qyhD_xE
At the concert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NntbzxNCrX4
Ending:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OofNyL4mUQs
You can watch the concert online:
http://sarangkpop.com/en/node/4002
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIHB9cVGOzw
In front of the concert hall today:
Inside the concert hall today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDCFVywrN-k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqN6qyhD_xE
At the concert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NntbzxNCrX4
Ending:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OofNyL4mUQs
You can watch the concert online:
http://sarangkpop.com/en/node/4002
I like to not think this is a way to sell more korea made cell phones in europe.
K-pop groups make songs and videos that are somewhat addictive. When I first saw SNSD run-devil-run video, I had to watch for about 5 times in a row. Most of the popular videos have 20+ million hits. Thats amazing.
K-pop groups make songs and videos that are somewhat addictive. When I first saw SNSD run-devil-run video, I had to watch for about 5 times in a row. Most of the popular videos have 20+ million hits. Thats amazing.
QUOTE (mughal @ Jun 11 2011, 05:15 PM) 
I like to not think this is a way to sell more korea made cell phones in europe.
But.. you know.. when Britney Spears or Jonas Brothers having a concert in Europe, there is noone who like to think that is a way to sell
more iPhone or motorola in Europe, right?
Though K-pop lacks true (if any) artistic creativity, this is a great start for the development of Korea as a source not only for steel or cars or phones, but also for pop culture.
QUOTE (Zdrav @ Jun 12 2011, 11:11 PM)
Though K-pop lacks true (if any) artistic creativity, this is a great start for the development of Korea as a source not only for steel or cars or phones, but also for pop culture.
Which K-pop are you're referring to? K-pop teen idol groups have invaded K-pop scenes, K-pop is much more than just teeny idol groups.
Most foreigners don't know about other K-pops other than these teen idol groups, and yes they lacks true artistic creativity because they don't make their own songs and dance choreography, all made by their agencies who paid other artists working with them.
Also, producers are the major stack holders of these K-pop idol groups.
I wonder how much money SM earned from this concert.
I do my usual math.
The concert hall (Le Zenith de Paris) has 7,000 seats and there were two performances.
7,000 x 2 concert = 14,000 and typical ticket price was 50-100 Euro.
That should be around 1 million - 1.2 million Euro.
SM probably didn't make lot of money after deducting all the expenses, although other souvenir sales such as posters, T shirts also added up more revenues.
Nevertheless, it's a good start.
I do my usual math.
The concert hall (Le Zenith de Paris) has 7,000 seats and there were two performances.
7,000 x 2 concert = 14,000 and typical ticket price was 50-100 Euro.
That should be around 1 million - 1.2 million Euro.
SM probably didn't make lot of money after deducting all the expenses, although other souvenir sales such as posters, T shirts also added up more revenues.
Nevertheless, it's a good start.
QUOTE (Zdrav @ Jun 12 2011, 08:11 AM)
Though K-pop lacks true (if any) artistic creativity, this is a great start for the development of Korea as a source not only for steel or cars or phones, but also for pop culture.
The same could be said of certain foreigners in Korea. They get their news from blogs by English teachers and a few translated articles in English. They can't speak/read Korean properly and think they know everything about Korea. Go figure.
Top K-pop idols are skilled musical performers with part of their life and personality exposed to the public through TV shows and social media, which went international. I'd say endurance and consistency is a more important virtue than artistic creativity from their agencies' POV. The companies who invest a lot in their lessons for years cannot afford a quitter under heavy pressure. Occasionally, there are idols like Big Bang's GD who are more involved in producing themselves, too.
QUOTE (rvsp @ Jun 12 2011, 10:03 AM)
I wonder how much money SM earned from this concert.
I do my usual math.
The concert hall (Le Zenith de Paris) has 7,000 seats and there were two performances.
7,000 x 2 concert = 14,000 and typical ticket price was 50-100 Euro.
That should be around 1 million - 1.2 million Euro.
SM probably didn't make lot of money after deducting all the expenses, although other souvenir sales such as posters, T shirts also added up more revenues.
Nevertheless, it's a good start.
Even if they had estimated their profit would be zero, they would've still done it. Good PR in the beginning. This 2-day concert made two mainstream French newspapers talk about SM. YG is also capable of advancing into untouched places but they are in trouble because of Daesung's situation.
I do my usual math.
The concert hall (Le Zenith de Paris) has 7,000 seats and there were two performances.
7,000 x 2 concert = 14,000 and typical ticket price was 50-100 Euro.
That should be around 1 million - 1.2 million Euro.
SM probably didn't make lot of money after deducting all the expenses, although other souvenir sales such as posters, T shirts also added up more revenues.
Nevertheless, it's a good start.
Is it just me or does anyone else can't really make of all those white girls screaming and cooing over the Asian guys? Anyhow, it's really good to see the Koreans shattering the myth that Asian guys aren't attractive and other racial stereotypes that has always existed traditionally. Good on them.
^ Those creepy obsessive insecure Asian nationalist stalkers wouldn't agree. They are already on a slander mission on YouTube lol
When I was in Paris last year, the only music they played was 60's 70's rock........(Beatles, Pink Floyd, Queen, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones etc.)
QUOTE (KochiGachi @ Jun 12 2011, 09:42 AM)
Which K-pop are you're referring to? K-pop teen idol groups have invaded K-pop scenes, K-pop is much more than just teeny idol groups.
Most foreigners don't know about other K-pops other than these teen idol groups, and yes they lacks true artistic creativity because they don't make their own songs and dance choreography, all made by their agencies who paid other artists working with them.
Also, producers are the major stack holders of these K-pop idol groups.
Most foreigners don't know about other K-pops other than these teen idol groups, and yes they lacks true artistic creativity because they don't make their own songs and dance choreography, all made by their agencies who paid other artists working with them.
Also, producers are the major stack holders of these K-pop idol groups.
By K-pop, I'm referring to Korean pop groups like H.O.T., fin.K.L, DBSK, SNSD, etc. I'm not using it as a catch-all term for every pop singer in Korea, and nowadays, I doubt anyone uses it in that fashion.
And I don't believe that you have to write your own songs or choreograph your own dances in order to be an artist. That's like saying that Luciano Pavarotti wasn't an artist because he didn't compose his own arias.
However, K-pop is highly manufactured and musically conservative (even regressive), and is akin to the Disney-manufactured pop factory in the U.S. I'm not saying that this is entirely a bad thing. Is it bad for artistic development in Korea. Perhaps. But it also promotes Korea as a source of international pop culture, which is a good thing since Korea has long been overshadowed by the Korean War and that nutter in North Korea. Besides, Korean films give the country a lot of artistic credibility, so what if its music is a little too sugary?
QUOTE (doggyji @ Jun 12 2011, 11:09 AM)
Top K-pop idols are skilled musical performers with part of their life and personality exposed to the public through TV shows and social media, which went international. I'd say endurance and consistency is a more important virtue than artistic creativity from their agencies' POV. The companies who invest a lot in their lessons for years cannot afford a quitter under heavy pressure. Occasionally, there are idols like Big Bang's GD who are more involved in producing themselves, too.
Even if they had estimated their profit would be zero, they would've still done it. Good PR in the beginning. This 2-day concert made two mainstream French newspapers talk about SM. YG is also capable of advancing into untouched places but they are in trouble because of Daesung's situation.
Even if they had estimated their profit would be zero, they would've still done it. Good PR in the beginning. This 2-day concert made two mainstream French newspapers talk about SM. YG is also capable of advancing into untouched places but they are in trouble because of Daesung's situation.
It makes sense.
According to the recent vote made by French K Pop club members, Big Bang was selected as a K Pop singer/band that they want to see most in a concert.
Since SM has finished their first concert in Paris successfully, I believe that YG wants to start a similar concert sometime soon. I also hope that Daesung's accidents won't be an obstacle for a future concert.
QUOTE (doggyji @ Jun 9 2011, 09:51 PM)
It's funny 'cause I see no difference between them and Asian fangirls. Oh wait, I've seen Justin Bieber fangirls lol
I had thought Western girls would be different (because of cultural difference?)
But.. lol, it seems that the sensibility of the teen girl is more universal than i thought.
QUOTE (UnknownUser @ Jun 14 2011, 12:27 AM)
I had thought Western girls would be different (because of cultural difference?)
But.. lol, it seems that the sensibility of the teen girl is more universal than i thought.
But.. lol, it seems that the sensibility of the teen girl is more universal than i thought.
Every teen girls likes pretty boys. And bad (but not really bad) boys. This is universal.
It's funny, because my French international student buddy has no interest in kpop what so ever, he is more into korean underground music scene.
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