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preahvihear
The world knows that it was Vietnam who created the Khmer Rouge, and the world also knows that it was Vietnam who had a dysfunctional relatonship with the Khmer Rouge. The world also knows that it was Vietnam who never put an end to the Khmer Rouge resistance and used it as a pretext to occupy Cambodia militarily for 10 years. The world also knows that Vietnam still plays the political interfence in Cambodia.

Now as the international tribunal is putting the remaining surviving Khmer Rouge top leaders on trial, Brother Number II Noun Chea is asking the court to INVESTIGATE Vietnam's role in Cambodia's killing fields because according to Brother Number II, the Khmer Rouge's Policies were made in response to Vietnam's political role in Cambodia at the time.

Can't wait for the juicy details to turn up. embarassedlaugh.gif Vietnam has always claimed that it SAVED the Cambodians from the jaw of death, but actually the jaw of death was created by Vietnam after all.
evergreen
waaa... For me, i always thought that Vietnam helped defeated the Khmer rouge. I find this interesting, i didn't know about this.
preahvihear
QUOTE (evergreen @ Jul 3 2011, 05:57 AM) *
waaa... For me, i always thought that Vietnam helped defeated the Khmer rouge. I find this interesting, i didn't know about this.


Oh yes, Vietnam and the Khmer Rouge were and are the best of friends until these days. You should read books written by Communist Viet authors glorifying the contributions to the greater causes of Ho Chi Minh since way back during the resistance against the French and the Americans. The Vietnamese commies and the Khmer Rouge back in those early days had an agreement to help each other took over Vietnam and Cambodia respectively. However, while the Vietnamese commies in the Northern Vietnam were defeating the French colonists, the French already granted Cambodia an independence status, thus depriving the Khmer Rouge from taking over Cambodia directly with the Vietnamese help. However, the Vietnamese commies refused to give up the hope for their Khmer Rouge comrades, so they invaded newly INDEPENDENT Cambodia to strengthen their position at the Geneva Conference. However, the Vietnamese were ordered to withdraw from Cambodia and as a result their comrades the Khmer Rouge had to go underground or get killed by the new government of the independent Cambodia.

However, the north Vietnamese commies refused to abandon their ambition to be the sole rulers of the unified Vietnam. So they started to fight the Southern Vietnamese forces. The Americans got involved and soon the the Vietnamese war flames spread to Cambodia and the Khmer Rouge took the opportunity to attack the Phnom Penh government and they succeeded. The Vietnamese commies also took over the South Vietnam.

One thing led to another and so on and so forth, the Vietnamese commies and the Khmer Rouge were fighting each other this time. Now they are labelled as "Brother Enemies". Eventually, some Khmer Rouge defected to the Vietnamese side and they came back with the Vietnamese help and they succeeded in toppling the Khmer Rouge leadership in Cambodia. So this was written in the paper, but the truth is deeper than that. Lol.

You see, the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge had a very intimate knowledge of each other in almost everything. In fact each team anticipated one another's military tactical movements very precisely. There was a reasons why the Khmer Rouge leadership elected not to defend Phnom Penh. Remember, Khmer Rouge troops and leadership were not harrassed by the Vietnamese troopers at all but they were allowed to retreat instead.

After the ruling Khmer Rouge leadership was removed, the Vietnamese commies now supported the Khmer Rouge members who helped them capture Cambodia. So technically, the Khmer Rouge members are still controlling Cambodia with the Vietnamese commies support. The Russian obsevers at the time wrote that after the Vietnamese took over Cambodia and installed a new group of Khmer Rouge to be in charge, there was another uprising within the new appointed Khmer Rouge group. So the Vietnamese commies removed one Khmer Rouge faction out and kept the other group which continues to this day as the sole rulers of Cambodia in the present.

The Vietnamese commies are very deceptive in the roles in Cambodia's politics and only the Khmer Rouge know their "Brother Enemies" well.

















afz123456
^ lol, such a troll iamwithstupid.gif
preahvihear
QUOTE (afz123456 @ Jul 4 2011, 11:18 PM) *
^ lol, such a troll iamwithstupid.gif


embarassedlaugh.gif The hidden troll has spoken, people! I think this is the one the international tribunal is looking for all along. It is time to nab the troll.
k82562131
come on preahvihear, i think you can do better than that.

what you wrote could be more reasonable....if you had hard facts to back it up. i think i could find references to help you out, but i don't want to promote it, at least not at this time.

cambodia has more issues to deal with right now than its past. what has happened, happened. unless we live in the "back to the future" movie-era, then things might be different, but we live in the present. things are tough right now; cambodians have local issues to deal with. until things get better, let's just look forward to improving for a better cambodia in the future.
evergreen
I just wish alllll the khmer rouge leaders and anyone who's involved should be on trail. It saddens me that there are those who are still in politics and acts and walk around as though they had done nothing wrong. Aren't they lucky they have Hun Sen as their leader....lucky basteeerds.
AngkorKhmerChild
QUOTE (evergreen @ Jul 3 2011, 06:57 AM) *
waaa... For me, i always thought that Vietnam helped defeated the Khmer rouge. I find this interesting, i didn't know about this.

The Youns didnt help defeated the Khmer Rough! The Youns told the khmer rough to disband because they are going to move in and take over Cambodia! The Youns told a lie to the world and said that USA and China supported Khmer rough! Which is completely false! That's why USA and the western politicians are going to put the the viets on trial for the murder of our people and for lying to the world!
afz123456
QUOTE (preahvihear @ Jul 4 2011, 09:33 PM) *
embarassedlaugh.gif The hidden troll has spoken, people! I think this is the one the international tribunal is looking for all along. It is time to nab the troll.


I'm the troll? rotflmao.gif I'm just reasonable. Look at the title of this topic, that is what you call troll. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, we were the ones that saved you. Talktohand.gif
AngkorKhmerChild
QUOTE (afz123456 @ Jul 5 2011, 09:49 PM) *
I'm the troll? rotflmao.gif I'm just reasonable. Look at the title of this topic, that is what you call troll. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, we were the ones that saved you. Talktohand.gif

lolz. You guys didn't saved us, you guys tryed to take over our country, but China and USA put a stop to that by closing it's doors on you guys and not associated with you guys in trades! And to this day, you guys are still trying to take over! You guys are trying to mixed our blood with your viet bloods so you can get us to forget our culture and heritage, it's a silent killing field that required no weapon! very genious, but it's not going to work!
evergreen
^^ another troll....yet i feel it's the same as the many troll account this AngkorKhmerChild probably has in the past . Please ignore this person and his stupid threads.
AngkorKhmerChild
QUOTE (evergreen @ Jul 6 2011, 07:17 AM) *
^^ another troll....yet i feel it's the same as the many troll account this AngkorKhmerChild probably has in the past . Please ignore this person and his stupid threads.

Excuse me, but I did not make this thread.
evergreen
QUOTE (AngkorKhmerChild @ Jul 6 2011, 09:18 PM) *
Excuse me, but I did not make this thread.


Thanks for not objecting that you are a troll.

I was referring to your other threads...with the capital S. I did not say 'ignore this thread of yours'. beerchug.gif
AngkorKhmerChild
QUOTE (evergreen @ Jul 6 2011, 07:23 AM) *
Thanks for not objecting that you are a troll.

I was referring to your other threads...with the capital S. I did not say 'ignore this thread of yours'. beerchug.gif

Are you trolling? A troll is someone who invades another forum and derail it, I'm not doing any of that.
evergreen
QUOTE (AngkorKhmerChild @ Jul 6 2011, 09:24 PM) *
Are you trolling? A troll is someone who invades another forum and derail it, I'm not doing any of that.


LOL! ..... sigh..... whatever you believe. Just so you know, your avatar is incorrect if your refering to those guys as khmer. They are not and I know you know. Please stop derailing and advertising the wrong information around. Just a friendly notice for you.
AngkorKhmerChild
QUOTE (evergreen @ Jul 6 2011, 08:02 AM) *
LOL! ..... sigh..... whatever you believe. Just so you know, your avatar is incorrect if your refering to those guys as khmer. They are not and I know you know. Please stop derailing and advertising the wrong information around. Just a friendly notice for you.

Are you referring to my signature? Those guys are khmer! I know them!

Let's go back on top, and let's stay on topic. Just a friendly reminder to you. ;-)
afz123456
QUOTE (AngkorKhmerChild @ Jul 6 2011, 05:09 AM) *
Are you referring to my signature? Those guys are khmer! I know them!

Let's go back on top, and let's stay on topic. Just a friendly reminder to you. ;-)


The guys in your signature are not Khmer, lol . Don't get ahead of yourself, they are Korean. They are SHINee.
munkey00
QUOTE (afz123456 @ Jul 6 2011, 04:58 PM) *
The guys in your signature are not Khmer, lol . Don't get ahead of yourself, they are Korean. They are SHINee.


hello.....he's trolling
afz123456
QUOTE (AngkorKhmerChild @ Jul 6 2011, 02:59 AM) *
lolz. You guys didn't saved us, you guys tryed to take over our country, but China and USA put a stop to that by closing it's doors on you guys and not associated with you guys in trades! And to this day, you guys are still trying to take over! You guys are trying to mixed our blood with your viet bloods so you can get us to forget our culture and heritage, it's a silent killing field that required no weapon! very genious, but it's not going to work!


Do you know why we are still taking over? Cause you're easy! And btw, the only reason why China and Usa cut us off is because we kicked their asses. icon_twisted.gif
AngkorKhmerChild
QUOTE (munkey00 @ Jul 6 2011, 05:59 PM) *
hello.....he's trolling

Well, I see that this thread invited the Youn trolls lolz.

Now, are you going to tell me that this guy below isn't Khmer, and that' he's a korean celebrity? lolz..go troll somewhere else, youn boy.
munkey00
QUOTE (afz123456 @ Jul 6 2011, 05:01 PM) *
Do you know why we are still taking over? Cause you're easy! And btw, the only reason why China and Usa cut us off is because we kicked their asses. icon_twisted.gif


are you trying to sound big and bad over the internet? viet dudes are getting beat up in khmer girls in south philly high beerchug.gif

http://aaldef.org/news/news-story/report-r...a-inquirer.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_PZruf5pPg...feature=related

QUOTE
By Kristen A. Graham and Jeff Gammage
Inquirer Staff Writers

Having seen many of their classmates punched and beaten all day long, a group of Vietnamese students told teachers they feared walking home.

At the end of the school day Dec. 3, they left South Philadelphia High, backed by a group of adults including the principal, but still dreading what waited outside. Some ran ahead up Broad Street, separating the group of Vietnamese students from their escorts.

In moments, they crossed the street and were surrounded by assailants - mostly African American, but also Cambodian and white youths.

A crowd of more than 100 surrounded the Vietnamese students, who huddled together while dozens of attackers punched, pushed, and kicked them. A Cambodian female, repeatedly cited in the report, was the first to attack and described as the most violent


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At 1:30 p.m. that day, a group of Asian and African American students had a verbal confrontation on the second floor of the school and were separated by school police. Afterward, at least two rumors emerged about the cause of the confrontation. One was that during third period "a Cambodian female had 'challenged' a group of three Vietnamese students to a fight."

At 3:15 p.m. that day, an after-school altercation occurred between African American and Asian students, including some who had been involved in the second-floor incident.

One of the victims to come forward publicly was Luu, a 17-year-old immigrant from Vietnam. He was beaten so badly that he vomited.

The report said one rumored assailant in that incident, which ended at a Walgreens store, was the Cambodian girl. The rumor was that "the arms of one of the Vietnamese students were held by African American females while the Cambodian female struck him in the head, rendering him unconscious.
AngkorKhmerChild
QUOTE (munkey00 @ Jul 6 2011, 06:03 PM) *
are you trying to sound big and bad over the internet? viet dudes are getting beat up in khmer girls in south philly high beerchug.gif

You must be talking about these youn students. Aww, poor youns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppxN9Q_OxMI
munkey00
QUOTE (AngkorKhmerChild @ Jul 6 2011, 05:05 PM) *
You must be talking about these youn students. Aww, poor youns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppxN9Q_OxMI


yeah isnt it sad?
afz123456
QUOTE (munkey00 @ Jul 6 2011, 03:03 PM) *
are you trying to sound big and bad over the internet? viet dudes are getting beat up in khmer girls in south philly high beerchug.gif

http://aaldef.org/news/news-story/report-r...a-inquirer.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_PZruf5pPg...feature=related


Lol, you're so stupid. How can you compare something as small as this to the conflict between Cambodia and Vietnam? And the reason the Viet dude lost was probably because the Khmer girls were butch lol embarassedlaugh.gif
munkey00
QUOTE (AngkorKhmerChild @ Jul 6 2011, 05:01 PM) *
Well, I see that this thread invited the Youn trolls lolz.

Now, are you going to tell me that this guy below isn't Khmer, and that' he's a korean celebrity? lolz..go troll somewhere else, youn boy.


well i know he's khmer and i've seen him on youtube. u need to realize khmers are not mongoloids, we're pacific mainlanders
AngkorKhmerChild
QUOTE (munkey00 @ Jul 6 2011, 06:09 PM) *
yeah isnt it sad?

You'll never see bullying happening to Khmer. Us khmer are well known to stand up for ourselves. We're confidence and not low self-esteem when compared to the youns! Let's be real here. Have anyone seen Khmer on the news being a victim of bully, or being a victim of a hate crime? Nope!
munkey00
QUOTE (afz123456 @ Jul 6 2011, 05:12 PM) *
Lol, you're so stupid. How can you compare something as small as this to the conflict between Cambodia and Vietnam? And the reason the Viet dude lost was probably because the Khmer girls were butch lol embarassedlaugh.gif


how are you gonna compare a nation of 80 + million to one that is only 14 million embarassedlaugh.gif are khmer girls butch or is viet dudes really malnourished and GOOFY looking? lol

tough guy, what u gonna do about this?
QUOTE
Loeun Sa, 22, faces a state prison term of 50 years to life when Alameda County Superior Court Judge Joan Cartwright sentences him Nov. 6 in connection with the Aug. 27, 2005, death of Nancy Nguyen at 52nd Avenue and East 10th St. in Oakland.

Nguyen was just beginning her senior year at the Life Academy High School of Health and Biosciences in Oakland and would have celebrated her 17th birthday the next week.

In their verdict late Tuesday, jurors also convicted Sa, who told Oakland police that he belongs to the Asian Street Walkers gang, of using a firearm and of being an ex-felon in possession of a gun. He has a prior conviction for possessing marijuana for sale.

Deputy District Attorney Stacie Pettigrew said Sa shot Nguyen after she told him to calm down following an incident in which he fired a gun into the air during a confrontation that involved 10 to 20 people and then told him that their relationship was over.

In his opening statement in Sa's trial, his lawyer, Spencer Strellis, admitted that Sa killed Nguyen but said the key issue in the trial was Sa's state of mind at the time and whether his actions constituted murder or a lesser charge, such as manslaughter.

"It's clear that there was a lover's quarrel and emotions ran high," Strellis said.

Pettigrew said Nguyen and Sa got into a "really loud" argument after Sa fired two shots into the air but their friends tried to ignore it because they figured it was just "a girlfriend-boyfriend spat."

But the prosecutor said Sa then turned toward a group of onlookers and said in Cambodian, "Do you want to see her die?"

Pettigrew said, "Tragically for Nancy, no one took him seriously" and tried to stop him.

The prosecutor said Nguyen, who was Vietnamese-American, probably didn't understand what Sa was saying so "she didn't know what was coming."

Pettigrew said the area where the shooting occurred is heavily Cambodian-American and there's a Cambodian temple nearby.

Pettigrew said Sa dragged Nguyen around the corner to a deserted cul-de-sac and a few moments later, witnesses heard Nguyen say to Sa, "Why are you hitting me? It's over."

Pettigrew said the witnesses then heard Sa tell Nguyen, "You can't run from me. You can't get away."

After that, the witnesses heard the gunshot that took Nguyen's life, Pettigrew said.

The prosecutor said Nguyen and Sa had dated for about seven months and there had been no prior indication that they'd had problems or that she had wanted to break up with him.

Strellis couldn't be reached for comment on the jury's verdict.
munkey00
QUOTE (AngkorKhmerChild @ Jul 6 2011, 05:13 PM) *
You'll never see bullying happening to Khmer. Us khmer are well known to stand up for ourselves. We're confidence and not low self-esteem when compared to the youns! Let's be real here. Have anyone seen Khmer on the news being a victim of bully, or being a victim of a hate crime? Nope!


just khmers bullying viets at school, thats pretty much it
afz123456
QUOTE (munkey00 @ Jul 6 2011, 03:14 PM) *
how are you gonna compare a nation of 80 + million to one that is only 14 million embarassedlaugh.gif are khmer girls butch or is viet dudes really malnourished and GOOFY looking? lol

tough guy, what u gonna do about this?


like I said, it's just some highschool fight. And yet people like you like to blow it out of proportion. lol and just because some looks goofy (not saying that viets are, because we aren't) doesn't mean they are weak. and the answer to you question is probably that khmer girls are just really butch. embarassedlaugh.gif
munkey00
QUOTE (afz123456 @ Jul 6 2011, 05:40 PM) *
like I said, it's just some highschool fight. And yet people like you like to blow it out of proportion. lol and just because some looks goofy (not saying that viets are, because we aren't) doesn't mean they are weak. and the answer to you question is probably that khmer girls are just really butch. embarassedlaugh.gif I'm going to go, ive had enough amusement talking to you troll.


lol its more embarassing for the guys though, being a GOOFY looking guy getting beat up by girls embarassedlaugh.gif i'm sorry but things like that really doesnt happen but it happens to viet guys all the time-elaugh

are u serious?
afz123456
QUOTE (munkey00 @ Jul 6 2011, 03:46 PM) *
lol its more embarassing for the guys though, being a GOOFY looking guy getting beat up by girls embarassedlaugh.gif i'm sorry but things like that really doesnt happen but it happens to viet guys all the time-elaugh

are u serious?


You think that that one picture is representative of the entire Viet population? I'm sure I can find an equally unflattering picture of a Khmer. sure.gif
munkey00
QUOTE (afz123456 @ Jul 6 2011, 08:35 PM) *
You think that that one picture is representative of the entire Viet population? I'm sure I can find an equally unflattering picture of a Khmer. sure.gif


well thats why i posted a picture of a viet AF member, there are more viet guys on this site with similar looks as him. embarassedlaugh.gif trust me, i'm not a newbie either and i've seen other southeast asian members pictures but there's definitely a higher percentage of viet members with that goofy look
afz123456
QUOTE (munkey00 @ Jul 6 2011, 06:42 PM) *
well thats why i posted a picture of a viet AF member, there are more viet guys on this site with similar looks as him. embarassedlaugh.gif trust me, i'm not a newbie either and i've seen other southeast asian members pictures but there's definitely a higher percentage of viet members with that goofy look


Your stupidity and ignorance shocks me, lol
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