Laozi was born in Quren Li, Ku county in the state of Chu
This contradict with the other wikipedia link, anyway, doesn't matter because Quren Li, Ku county in the state of Chu is today Luyi Country, Henan province which is located in northern China(sino-tibetan), so my theory is still correct. Henan province is above Yangtze river which mean Laozi is from northern China(sino-tibetan). It clearly stated in the video. There are no Miao/Hmong people in Henan province.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e01CQpyi5E8http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henan
I also don't think he is yue since yue is peoples who inhabited southern China while Laozi is from northern China.
The Baiyue (Chinese: 百越; pinyin: bǎiyuè), Hundred Yue or Yue (越) is a loose term denoting various partly sinicized or un-sinicized peoples who inhabited southern China and northern Vietnam between the first millennium BC and the first millennium AD.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baiyue
Also, did you observe the map in your signature. It clearly said people who speak sino-tibetan language(Chinese linguists), in other words the ancestors of today Han Chinese are from northern China and already been there ever since early Neolithic long time even before Xia/Shang dynasty exist. The geographic location is same or close to Henan province. The sino-tibetan later migrate to different location in China including Henan as suggested by the arrow in the map while Hmong only migrate south towards south east asia.
Therefore, whether ''Han identity'' was established after the establishment of CCP or not doesn't matter anymore because the linguist identity, writings or maybe even culture and others already exist back then. The people who inherit sino-tibetan languages, writings, cultures in modern day are definitely their descendant, which is the Han Chinese. I believe the map originated from western scholar right? If that is the case then the sino-tibetan group they are talking about are mostly refer to the Chinese linguists.
The Sino-Tibetan language family has also been defined, principally among some Chinese linguists, as including the Tai and Hmong-Mien languages. In the past, Vietnamese and other Mon-Khmer languages were classified under the Sino-Tibetan tree; however, their similarities to Chinese are currently credited to language contact. In the Western scholarly community, the other tonal language families of East Asia, Tai-Kadai languages and Hmong-Mien (Miao-Yao), are no longer classified under the Sino-Tibetan tree either, with the similarities attributed to borrowings and areal features, especially since Benedict (1972). In the Chinese scholarly community, Tai-Kadai (actually Zhuang-Dong or Kam-Tai, which excludes i.a. the Kra languages) and Hmong-Mien have commonly been included in the Sino-Tibetan family.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Tibetan_...language_family
Omg, the Hmong in Hunan are Taoists and the rest of the other Hmong throughout southwest China practice forms of Taoism.
Do I care what ethnicity is Laozi? No. He enlightened me and that's all I care. You don't know us. LOL You went back to dig a thread that has nothing to do with this thread. Do you not see
that the Hmong religion has Taoist elements just like how there are Mahayana, Theravada, Tibetan Buddhism? idiot.
I never say they are not Taoist. Beside, you the one who reply to me first when I said Laozi are ethnically Han Chinese since he is categorized as Han Chinese. Calling people idiot when you cannot refute me does not prove anything, instead it just shows how ignorant you really are.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese
You the one who keep replying to me regarding Laozi ethnicity. Anyway, since you got problem with him being Han Chinese, this time I will categorized him under linguists point of view which is sino-tibetan, who I believe are the ancestors of modern day Han Chinese(personally, I still consider Laozi as Han Chinese).You said you don't care about Laozi ethnicity, but if you still got problem with this, then you are contradict with yourself.
By the way, qaib, there is something I need to ask you. Has the original Tao Te Ching been found? Because at part 2 of the video, it says Laozi finish his work, put down his brush and left us with Tao Te Ching.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1KQxwC1lo
Then we saw something that look like a book cover with Chinese characters on it. Is that the original Tao Te Ching written by him? If yes then Laozi are obviously Chinese or at least this suggest Laozi are culturally Chinese or speak Sino-Tibetan/Chinese language.
You believe Han chinese were the majority of ancient time? The Han ethnic is composed of various ethnic groups and it is well known. The concept of "Han identity" was established after
the establishment of CCP. Many ethnic groups became Han to avoid being persecuted. Many ethnic groups assimilated like the Manchu and so forth. You would probably think famous Chinese opera singer is not Hmong.
Not really. See the yhaplogroup below yourself.
As you can see, northern Han and southern Han share a very similar yhaplogroup. This shows that all individuals that identify themselves as Han Chinese share similar ancestors(sino-tibetan). Like I said, it doesn't matter when the ''Han Chinese'' identity is created because in the end, all Han Chinese share similar ancestors, as well as culture, languages, and writings ever since ancient time. The identity is already there since ancient China,so once again, I have a point when I said Han Chinese are the majority since ancient time just like today present time. It just that the words Han Chinese is not specifically given. Your theory many ethnic groups became Han to avoid being persecuted is not quite wrong. As for Manchu, I'm not sure about them but one thing for sure is that they do not share similar yhaplogroup with the Han Chinese. So, if they really assimilated themselves, then we should have found Manchu yhaplogroup inside Han Chinese, but so far it never happen. Many people who said ''Han Chinese composed of various ethnic group'', ''There is no Han Chinese identity'', or stuff like that are being ignorant and obviously never done scientific research on genetics. Not happy with what I said, I hope you can address my posts. Calling people stupid when you cannot refute does not prove anything at all and it just shows how ignorant you are.
I also want to add that almost all archaeology evidence about Laozi's teaching, Taoism are written in Chinese characters.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mawangdui_Silk_Texts
Clearly, Taosim is being integrated inside Han Chinese culture more than Miao/Hmong. Why is that?It because Laozi highly associate himself and socialize with Han Chinese/Huaxia people a lot. The reason could be because he himself is Han Chinese/Huaxia people. They are able to communicate and understand each other with their own language. Therefore, his teaching are being able to be recorded in Chinese characters/language.
Laozi was born in northern China, Henan province. Most of this theory about Miao/Hmong migrate from north seems to be related or revolve around Chi You and Battle of Zhuolu.
However, if Huang Di and Chi You never exist, then all the theory about Miao/Hmong migrate from north to south is not real which means the people living in northern China such as of Henan, including Laozi who born there are not related to Miao/Hmong at all. In other words, Miao/Hmong never set their been to northern China before during ancient time. Instead,the people of northern China including Laozi himself are Han Chinese.