Do hmong pp have black magic? I remember when my grandma was dieing, my family did summon a ghost to asked wat wrong with my grandma.

How funny, lately, I've been really interested in BM and asked a lot of people about their opinions and did some research.
My friends from China and Vietnam said that Hmong people are well known for doing BM in their country.
I hear stories too.. but have never witnessed any personally, but I do believe it's real.

You mean shamanism? I think other ethnicity have far cooler magic, like Khmers, check out some of their magic on YT, it's AWESOME!

Aren't shamans and sorcerers different?

^ Yeah I agree too but so many [ignorant] people mix the two together...

Two of my grandpas know BM but they r also shaman. One can made a healing water spell that could healed us fast if we got any broken bone. The other one could summon ghost and he chant a spell that u wont get burn. Both of my grandpas still have more spell but never seem them use since we live in the state. One thing is that i never have the will to ask them to teach me BM

Ya'll believe in that $hit?

black magic = evil

healing magic = hmong shamanism


MY GOSH!!! Hmong people don't even practice black magic anymore.
To practice black magic, one must be able to kill his or her first son, first girl or something spouse to show
the evil spirits that he or she can perform black magic.

hmong pp still do practice BM. Sacrifice one relative is just to let u control the strongest evil spirit that allow u to kill someone. But u dont need to sacrifice anyone if u r using the one punch death strike or the love spell.

^Yea, I hear Hmong people still practice BM, and yes, I also hear it's not necessary to sacrifice any human beings to have BM powers.

No, Hmong people do not practice BM. You don't know what you're talking about.
You probably don't even know what is BM in Hmong since you're a Christian.
You obviously think, like majority of uneducated Hmong Christians that the native Hmong traditional belief is the DEVIL'S WORK.

You probably don't even know the origin of HMONG HEMP SKIRT!!! something that you like to wear. Hmong people got it from someone, who many of you Hmong Christians consider the devil. He was never considered as the devil in the Hmong culture, because he has always known as the deity of the green bamboo forest that dead people have to cross and the deity of agriculture.

You people are, I don't want to say it, but......... full of jibberish.

Where did you hear it from?

Anyone who practices BM in Hmong is required to sacrifice a family member. This is well known in the past
by Hmong people. BM disappeared long long ago. It is no longer practice.

I know because my grandpa's first wife was killed by BM back in Laos, but not by a Hmong, but a Khmu.
My father stated that black magic disappeared long ago.

Never heard or seen BM practice by Hmong... most of the BM happened to Hmong are by the Khmu, in which
Hmong seek the Khmu to perform black magic on other Hmong.

You have no idea what you're saying.

Making and saying ignorant stuffs about Hmong make other people become ignorant about us, our native practices and our culture.
So, please stop it and quit stating stuffs that are not true. It's offensive and insulting to me and my culture and especially to my ancestors and people.

one of my cousin knows black magic. thats what most of my cousins say. hes getting old though

^

how do you say black magic in Hmong? if you don't know, you don't know what you're saying.

Khaw koob - healing magic is not black magic.

black magic - is to kill people.

lol everytime i read your comments it seems like your hating on that person because they dont know or didnt know. oh well thats what the OG's around me have been saying

I'm not hating.

it's because black magic is not the same as khaw koob and Hmong people do not practice black magic anymore.
It died long ago.

Most events that happened to Hmong people in Laos regarding black magic were conducted by Pu Thawg (Khmu).

So, I want to know why you guys would be saying that Hmong people are practicing black magic, when we do not.

Shamanism/Khaw Koob and etc... are not black magic at all.

haha ok i get it now

I have to say I'm probably the first in this forum to HAVE experience black magic. I don't do it or know any black magic, but I have been, sadly, one of the victims of black magic. There is this asshoe shaman in St. Paul who likes to do black magic on people he is enemy with. I won't say his name. The kind that was sent to me made me feel like I wanted to destroy myself. It only happened at night and it made me cry for no reason. I wanted to cry and scream and jump off the river. And also, these stupid monsters keep appearing in my dream, and its always the same monster, and they are always doing the same $hit to me. I know this asshoe is trying to kill me. The moment a good shaman cast protection spells on me is when I was relieved of the evil symptoms. People can believe in black magic or not, but one thing is for sure, it's not fun being the receiving end.

In this world, there are good shamans and bad shamans. Also, there is white magic and black magic. Its your choice.

Really? There's "asshoe shamans" that exist too? That's funny! Huh, when did evil shamans start doing "black magic", I thought shamans were only healers and people that helped families to warn off evil, etc. I would always image a shaman being a good person...bet qaib will have something to say about this...lol...

Wow, since you're a young shaman yourself or know lots of young shamans, must be very hard, having to experience such supernatural and weird stuff all the time. Don't be so discouraged by all those bad dreams because your powers are very special, given only to selected few and it seems like you wanna help out others for the good...good luck!

I don't believe in black magic. If it's real then all these leaders will be dead, unless you guys are telling me that they have a staff of wizards to counter other people's black magic.

Do you believe in magic?


magic

No, magic is for the weak-minded...stopped believing in miracles even...a long time ago...

I believe in magic in this young girl's heart

Black magic is real. Don't say I believe it because I'm scared or whatever... I believe it's real.
Why aren't many people dead because of black magic? You have to pay a price to cast such a spell on someone.

Remember that curse made by this Native American guy? After they lost a battle against some Americans, he cursed that all presidents who get voted every 20 years to die in office? (That is every man who became president in the year ending with a zero.) Well, guess what? Every one of them died, seven in a row.. SEVEN IN A ROW!! NO SKIPPING!! No other presidents elected in different years died except one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presi..._died_in_office

Strange.. isn't it?
So, was this a coincidence or was it black magic?

Bull$hit..You sound so fobby right now lol. If they were so powerful with their magic, they would have resisted the White man's conquest. It's as ridiculous as the claims of Hmong soldiers and their protective flags back in the war coming from those HTT fobs from Thailand.

There are those who know black magic and are shamans. There are good and there is evil. Those who know black magic and are good might use black magic in drastic terms when needed. My mom has told me that most do not practice black magic even if they know it but there are always those who do it for the money. I hear Thailand and Laos has quite a few people who use black magic for harm. Also heard the Lao black magic practitioners are very strong.

Magic is real. Black magic is very real. I think magic from Myanmar is top notch magic. I suspect many of the magic practiced in South East Asia originated in Myanmar. It is said that some shaman can raise the dead. I believe powerful shaman can indeed raise the dead. As for Hmong shaman, their magic is very powerful. They play with your mind. It is reported that Lord Buddha once taught

“All that we are is the result of what we have thought. The mind is everything. What we think we become.”
more Buddha quotes here

With that in mind, a shaman who plays with our mind is a very powerful being indeed. Revere the shaman.

Supernatural revealed in India

Sam and Dean Winchester should investigate on the Southeast Asian black magic practitioners.

As I was growing up, the Hmong black magic that I feared the most was teleporting magic trick. The elders scared the daylights out of all us kids with tales of powerful Hmong shaman that can put stuff into you without even touching you. The shaman would chant incantation then blow on stuffs, and stuffs would be teleported inside you. There were stories of people getting terribly ill for no apparent reason, many collapsed so they were brought to hospital. The victims often complained of excruciating pain inside their abdomen but the doctors could not understand what caused the symptoms, so they cut the patients up to look inside. To the doctor's horror, stuffs like scissors, knives, feathers sometimes even live chicks were found inside the victims.
We all revered the shaman.

Damn u shamans and your healing...u guys r really tuff to kill as a rouge

I like your armor though

That's not black magic. That's calling upon the spirits to create harmony for your grandma's soul. Black magic is when they use the khawv koob to do evil things. This is more common in Laotian or Lahu who knows these spells. But yes, there are spells that are evil and dark.

That sounds evil. That was probably a "learnt" method and using khawv koob, not Godly or of God. Many of the black magic is learned and can be delivered without being a shaman. But there are consequences and ppl that test those spells, God will punish them harshly although they don't believe God will do so. He punishes them most harshly and will deliver them to another life of suffering. They are not home free!