Here's what I found interesting!
Kaihsu 06:35, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)
August 29, 2003.
Many of you had mention Miao in this discussion, but you all missed understood and over looked the history. The word Miao did not mean cat or originated by the Chinese. however this term "Miao" invented by Hmong themselves. The term Miao which is known for centuries or to Lao, Thai, Chinese & others came from the great Kingdom of San Miao. The Kingdom of San Miao was Hmong whom had ruled large parts of China for 1,000 years, and many groups such as Lao, Thai, Chinese might have been lived under San Miao. Because these groups were ruled by San Miao for 1,000 years that why Hmong was known to Lao, Thai, Chinese and others as Miao. When these groups called "Hmong" Miao they referred to San Miao Kingdom. San Miao was a strong, powerful kingdom. Moreover, the word San Miao meant 3 Hmong Brothers whom created the San Miao Kingdom, and also the word "San" in Chinese meant 3, right. Anyaway I am proud to be called Miao. However, if any of you want to know more about Miao you should research more especially the San Miao era. "Hmong, you should proud to be called Miao" when they called you Miao they remembering our Kingdom of San Miao
By I am proud to be Miao.
Full Version: Be Proud To Be Call MIAO ^^;;;
THat's nice, but I still would prefer to be called Hmong please.
when u pronounce hmong...its with silent H right?
hmong miao...same shiet...we all alike...its just like sayin...N.IGGER..and N.EGRO...right??
lol >.<
QUOTE(mIna @ Jan 14 2005, 11:43 AM)
Here's what I found interesting!
Kaihsu 06:35, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)
August 29, 2003.
Many of you had mention Miao in this discussion, but you all missed understood and over looked the history. The word Miao did not mean cat or originated by the Chinese. however this term "Miao" invented by Hmong themselves. The term Miao which is known for centuries or to Lao, Thai, Chinese & others came from the great Kingdom of San Miao. The Kingdom of San Miao was Hmong whom had ruled large parts of China for 1,000 years, and many groups such as Lao, Thai, Chinese might have been lived under San Miao. Because these groups were ruled by San Miao for 1,000 years that why Hmong was known to Lao, Thai, Chinese and others as Miao. When these groups called "Hmong" Miao they referred to San Miao Kingdom. San Miao was a strong, powerful kingdom. Moreover, the word San Miao meant 3 Hmong Brothers whom created the San Miao Kingdom, and also the word "San" in Chinese meant 3, right. Anyaway I am proud to be called Miao. However, if any of you want to know more about Miao you should research more especially the San Miao era. "Hmong, you should proud to be called Miao" when they called you Miao they remembering our Kingdom of San Miao
By I am proud to be Miao.
Kaihsu 06:35, 21 Aug 2003 (UTC)
August 29, 2003.
Many of you had mention Miao in this discussion, but you all missed understood and over looked the history. The word Miao did not mean cat or originated by the Chinese. however this term "Miao" invented by Hmong themselves. The term Miao which is known for centuries or to Lao, Thai, Chinese & others came from the great Kingdom of San Miao. The Kingdom of San Miao was Hmong whom had ruled large parts of China for 1,000 years, and many groups such as Lao, Thai, Chinese might have been lived under San Miao. Because these groups were ruled by San Miao for 1,000 years that why Hmong was known to Lao, Thai, Chinese and others as Miao. When these groups called "Hmong" Miao they referred to San Miao Kingdom. San Miao was a strong, powerful kingdom. Moreover, the word San Miao meant 3 Hmong Brothers whom created the San Miao Kingdom, and also the word "San" in Chinese meant 3, right. Anyaway I am proud to be called Miao. However, if any of you want to know more about Miao you should research more especially the San Miao era. "Hmong, you should proud to be called Miao" when they called you Miao they remembering our Kingdom of San Miao
By I am proud to be Miao.
Where did you get your information from?
Hmong never called themselfs Maio. They are a totally different Race. People just called us that due to that Hmong and Maio once did live among eachother in China. They just called us Maio. Its a term Maio meaning you are not chinese, so you got to be a Maio. Maio really just a term , saying that if u ant' chinese u Maio, a term used for Minoritys in China. 
We are not maio . 
We are HMONG.
We are not maio . We are HMONG.
Cool, nice find....Haha...but you won't be so happy when a Lao person calls you MEO!
QUOTE(lilasiankid @ Jan 14 2005, 08:39 PM)
Cool, nice find....Haha...but you won't be so happy when a Lao person calls you MEO!
From what I know, only Chinese Hmong are called Miao, because we don't have a character from "Hmong" or "Hmoob" as Miao/Hmong call themselves. In Vn, they're called mẹo or mông; in Thailand, ม้ง mong แม้ว maew . However, as far as I know, Ghao Xong, Gha Ne (Ka Nao), Hmao, also are considered to be Hmong tribes, although they don't use that name.
Historically, I believe that Chinese expeditioners and invaders gave to the Hmong the appelation "Miao", which was a generalized term for all peoples in that area. The reason why it's sometimes considered an insult is because it sounds similar to "Cat" in Chinese.
QUOTE(華夏無產 @ Jan 14 2005, 05:58 PM)
From what I know, only Chinese Hmong are called Miao, because we don't have a character from "Hmong" or "Hmoob" as Miao/Hmong call themselves. In Vn, they're called mẹo or mông; in Thailand, ม้ง mong แม้ว maew . However, as far as I know, Ghao Xong, Gha Ne (Ka Nao), Hmao, also are considered to be Hmong tribes, although they don't use that name.
True. Not even those in China who are "classified" as Miao call themselves that. They call themsleves by their own self-designation.
i rather be called hmong
QUOTE(mIna @ Jan 14 2005, 11:43 AM)
however this term "Miao" invented by Hmong themselves.
If the term "Miao" was "invented" by the Hmong people, then how come all those who are classified as Miao do not call themselves as such? Instead they choose to call themselves by their own self-designated names. For example, the western Hunan "Miao" call themselves "Guo-xiong", those in eastern Guizhou call themselves "Amaot" or "Mo' and those in Yunnan and southeastern Sichuan call themselves 'Meng" or "Hmong".
QUOTE(mIna @ Jan 14 2005, 11:43 AM)
By I am proud to be Miao.
Why do you want to glorify this term? This term was imposed on us by those who sought to conquer and destroy our people. The Chinese ravaged our villages; drove us far from our homes; raped, killed, imprisoned and enslaved our people and you choose to honor our dead by glorifying something which our ancestors fought so bravely against and in the end died fighting for.
You are blind if you take pride in calling yourself "Miao".
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Why do you want to glorify this term? This term was imposed on us by those who sought to conquer and destroy our people. The Chinese ravaged our villages; drove us far from our homes; raped, killed, imprisoned and enslaved our people and you choose to honor our dead by glorifying something which our ancestors fought so bravely against and in the end died fighting for.
According to historical records, Chiyou 蚩尤 of Hmong first invaded Yian Di's tribe, making the defeated Yiandi sought Huangdi for help. Eventually Chiyou's tribe Zhuolu 涿鹿, a defunct prefecture on the border of today provinces of Hebei and Liaoning, by Huang Di 黃帝 , leader of the Huaxia 華夏. The compass was believed to be the crucial reason of Huaxia's victory. The battle, believed to be taken place in the 26th century B.C, was fought under heavy fog as Huaxia was able to match against Miao with the compass. After the loss, the original tribe split into two smaller splinter tribes, the Miao and the Li (黎). Miao continuously moving southwest and Li southeast as the Huaxia race, now known as Han Chinese race, expanding southwards. Some Miao/Li were assimilated into the Chinese during Zhou Dynasty.
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edit: Also, Hmong people continued to live in China or in that area even after Chiyou was defeated:
In China's Tang Dynasty the Miao ceased as a major non-Chinese group except in the province of Yunnan where six "zhao" 詔 of Miao lived. The southernmost, known as Mengshezhao 蒙舍詔 pr Nanzhao 南詔, united all six zhaos and found the first independent Miao state during early 8th century. Nanzhao regularly paid tributes through the head of military district Jiannan Jiedushi 劍南節度使. When the Tang dynasty gradually declined, they gained more independence, but were assimilated by later dynasties. However, some of Nanzhao's cultural influence was carried south due to its [Nanzhao's] location.
QUOTE(華夏無產 @ Jan 14 2005, 11:15 PM)
According to historical records, Chiyou 蚩尤 of Hmong first invaded Yian Di's tribe, making the defeated Yiandi sought Huangdi for help. Eventually Chiyou's tribe Zhuolu 涿鹿, a defunct prefecture on the border of today provinces of Hebei and Liaoning, by Huang Di 黃帝 , leader of the Huaxia 華夏. The compass was believed to be the crucial reason of Huaxia's victory. The battle, believed to be taken place in the 26th century B.C, was fought under heavy fog as Huaxia was able to match against Miao with the compass.
If I am not mistaken, Chiyou and his Juili tribe waged war to defend their territory from rapidly advancing and expanding Chinese civilization. Chiyou had won nine battles prior but lost the tenth. This loss eventually culminated in the dispersion of the Juili people from which they were never able to reunite as a nation under one banner.
QUOTE(BeautifullyTragic @ Jan 15 2005, 01:47 AM)
QUOTE(mIna @ Jan 14 2005, 11:43 AM)
however this term "Miao" invented by Hmong themselves.
If the term "Miao" was "invented" by the Hmong people, then how come all those who are classified as Miao do not call themselves as such? Instead they choose to call themselves by their own self-designated names. For example, the western Hunan "Miao" call themselves "Guo-xiong", those in eastern Guizhou call themselves "Amaot" or "Mo' and those in Yunnan and southeastern Sichuan call themselves 'Meng" or "Hmong".
QUOTE(mIna @ Jan 14 2005, 11:43 AM)
By I am proud to be Miao.
Why do you want to glorify this term? This term was imposed on us by those who sought to conquer and destroy our people. The Chinese ravaged our villages; drove us far from our homes; raped, killed, imprisoned and enslaved our people and you choose to honor our dead by glorifying something which our ancestors fought so bravely against and in the end died fighting for.
You are blind if you take pride in calling yourself "Miao".
hey don't look at me okay.. all of that was quoted from what i found in wikipedia.. sheesh..
by the way if someone here totally knows everything about the miao/hmong why don't you write a new history book.. i'm just here to find facts and details ... not to lie... =/
QUOTE(mIna @ Jan 15 2005, 11:46 AM)
by the way if someone here totally knows everything about the miao/hmong why don't you write a new history book.. i'm just here to find facts and details ... not to lie... =/
If you're looking for ancient Hmong history, I suggest you read the book Hais Hmoob Liv Xwv by Wu Rong-zhen, and then maybe you can grasp where BeautifullyTragic is coming from.
thanks i'll get that for sure..
lol 75 bucks.. -_- ish okay hmong help hmong.. =D
QUOTE(華夏無產 @ Jan 14 2005, 08:58 PM)
QUOTE(lilasiankid @ Jan 14 2005, 08:39 PM)
Cool, nice find....Haha...but you won't be so happy when a Lao person calls you MEO!
From what I know, only Chinese Hmong are called Miao, because we don't have a character from "Hmong" or "Hmoob" as Miao/Hmong call themselves. In Vn, they're called mẹo or mông; in Thailand, ม้ง mong แม้ว maew . However, as far as I know, Ghao Xong, Gha Ne (Ka Nao), Hmao, also are considered to be Hmong tribes, although they don't use that name.
Historically, I believe that Chinese expeditioners and invaders gave to the Hmong the appelation "Miao", which was a generalized term for all peoples in that area. The reason why it's sometimes considered an insult is because it sounds similar to "Cat" in Chinese.
how come Miao sounds like Cat in chinese???
苗。。猫
Miao..Mao...
Miao=Hmong..
Hmong in China called themself Miao too.. only some Miao call themself Hmong
QUOTE(康师傅 @ Jan 15 2005, 10:54 PM)
QUOTE(華夏無產 @ Jan 14 2005, 08:58 PM)
QUOTE(lilasiankid @ Jan 14 2005, 08:39 PM)
Cool, nice find....Haha...but you won't be so happy when a Lao person calls you MEO!
From what I know, only Chinese Hmong are called Miao, because we don't have a character from "Hmong" or "Hmoob" as Miao/Hmong call themselves. In Vn, they're called mẹo or mông; in Thailand, ม้ง mong แม้ว maew . However, as far as I know, Ghao Xong, Gha Ne (Ka Nao), Hmao, also are considered to be Hmong tribes, although they don't use that name.
Historically, I believe that Chinese expeditioners and invaders gave to the Hmong the appelation "Miao", which was a generalized term for all peoples in that area. The reason why it's sometimes considered an insult is because it sounds similar to "Cat" in Chinese.
how come Miao sounds like Cat in chinese???
苗。。猫
Miao..Mao...
Miao=Hmong..
Hmong in China called themself Miao too.. only some Miao call themself Hmong
Well, some Hmong/Miao think that the two words are similar in pronounciation.
BTW, does Hmong have it's own alphabet, or is it always with Latin characters?
The word 'Miao'<苗> is a Chinese term meaning Seeding or Young plant. The reason being the Miao were living around yellow river area about 4500 years ago and had developed agriculture when the tribe of the Yellow emperor who were hunter gatherers migrated to the yellow river they settle there and learnt agriculture from the miao people. Then the Miao attacked and were defeated then were driven south.
It has nothing to do with cats!
It has nothing to do with cats!
QUOTE(MING-LOYALIST @ Jan 16 2005, 03:48 AM)
The word 'Miao'<苗> is a Chinese term meaning Seeding or Young plant. The reason being the Miao were living around yellow river area about 4500 years ago and had developed agriculture when the tribe of the Yellow emperor who were hunter gatherers migrated to the yellow river they settle there and learnt agriculture from the miao people. Then the Miao attacked and were defeated then were driven south.
It has nothing to do with cats!
It has nothing to do with cats!
Yes, I know. But still, some people do find it offensive for some reason.
BTW, did you know that some jews took offense to 猶太 because of the radical in the character "猶"?
QUOTE(華夏無產 @ Jan 15 2005, 09:19 PM)
BTW, does Hmong have it's own alphabet, or is it always with Latin characters?
According to legend, Hmong people had their own writing system but the Chinese destroyed all traces of it many centuries ago and forbid all those who had acknowledge of it to spread it. It was then that Hmong women started stitching the Hmong writing into their paj ntaub (flower cloth). But over time the writing on the clothes became nothing more than pretty shapes.
QUOTE(MING-LOYALIST @ Jan 16 2005, 03:48 AM)
The word 'Miao'<苗> is a Chinese term meaning Seeding or Young plant. The reason being the Miao were living around yellow river area about 4500 years ago and had developed agriculture when the tribe of the Yellow emperor who were hunter gatherers migrated to the yellow river they settle there and learnt agriculture from the miao people. Then the Miao attacked and were defeated then were driven south.
It has nothing to do with cats!
It has nothing to do with cats!
We Chinese are not really Sino-Tibetan people but Sinicized Miao/Hmong and Daic/Tai-Kadai people. That's what the latest Y-chromosome findings are implying. So, might not be that we learned agriculture from the Miao/Hmong and Tai but that we are Miao/Hmong and Tai who learned to speak Chinese under the rule of proto-Chinese nomads.
QUOTE(User1 @ Jan 16 2005, 03:54 PM)
QUOTE(MING-LOYALIST @ Jan 16 2005, 03:48 AM)
The word 'Miao'<苗> is a Chinese term meaning Seeding or Young plant. The reason being the Miao were living around yellow river area about 4500 years ago and had developed agriculture when the tribe of the Yellow emperor who were hunter gatherers migrated to the yellow river they settle there and learnt agriculture from the miao people. Then the Miao attacked and were defeated then were driven south.
It has nothing to do with cats!
It has nothing to do with cats!
We Chinese are not really Sino-Tibetan people but Sinicized Miao/Hmong and Daic/Tai-Kadai people. That's what the latest Y-chromosome findings are implying. So, might not be that we learned agriculture from the Miao/Hmong and Tai but that we are Miao/Hmong and Tai who learned to speak Chinese under the rule of proto-Chinese nomads.
We? you mean southerners<南人>
I'm from far north former nomadic lands.
No, I don't mean southerners.
QUOTE(User1 @ Jan 16 2005, 12:54 PM)
We Chinese are not really Sino-Tibetan people but Sinicized Miao/Hmong and Daic/Tai-Kadai people. That's what the latest Y-chromosome findings are implying. So, might not be that we learned agriculture from the Miao/Hmong and Tai but that we are Miao/Hmong and Tai who learned to speak Chinese under the rule of proto-Chinese nomads.
Where can I find information about the latest findings? Sounds interesting, I would like to read more about it.
QUOTE(InstantKarma @ Jan 17 2005, 05:02 PM)
QUOTE(User1 @ Jan 16 2005, 12:54 PM)
We Chinese are not really Sino-Tibetan people but Sinicized Miao/Hmong and Daic/Tai-Kadai people. That's what the latest Y-chromosome findings are implying. So, might not be that we learned agriculture from the Miao/Hmong and Tai but that we are Miao/Hmong and Tai who learned to speak Chinese under the rule of proto-Chinese nomads.
Where can I find information about the latest findings? Sounds interesting, I would like to read more about it.
The link is dead today for some reason. It was working fine just a few days ago.
http://library.ibp.ac.cn/html/slwj/000222645600001.pdf
Try it. If it doesn't work I can PM or post the PDF for you. I doubt you'll be able to make much sense of the PDF without a basic understanding of genetics tho.. Those PDF's are basically all in "technical" language without "getting to the point".. just go to the summaries if that happens.
Ok, it's working now. Lemme explain it to you anyway. Basically, M175/Haplogroup O and Haplogroup N are the quintessential Asian lineages. They just found the ancestral type of this lineage, M214 in the Tibeto-Burman speakers who've "recently" moved into the SW of China, and in the people of Xinjiang, as well as in Mongolia. Chances are likely they will find more in Siberia.
The CURIOUS thing is that while most Chinese and SE Asians are descended from this ancestral lineage through M214--->M175, M214 itself is not found in even north Chinese. So, basically, the Chinese are lineage-wise different from the Tibeto Burmans. The Chinese are in fact more similar to Hmong, Tai, and Mon-Khmer, and Austronesians on the father's side than they are to Tibeto-Burmans.
Thus, it implies that the Sino-Tibetan nomads conquered the agricultural people of north China and imposed their language on them. There is also increasingly archeological evidence for this.
very nice... o__0
QUOTE(User1 @ Jan 19 2005, 12:50 PM)
The link is dead today for some reason. It was working fine just a few days ago.
http://library.ibp.ac.cn/html/slwj/000222645600001.pdf
Try it. If it doesn't work I can PM or post the PDF for you. I doubt you'll be able to make much sense of the PDF without a basic understanding of genetics tho.. Those PDF's are basically all in "technical" language without "getting to the point".. just go to the summaries if that happens.
Ok, it's working now. Lemme explain it to you anyway. Basically, M175/Haplogroup O and Haplogroup N are the quintessential Asian lineages. They just found the ancestral type of this lineage, M214 in the Tibeto-Burman speakers who've "recently" moved into the SW of China, and in the people of Xinjiang, as well as in Mongolia. Chances are likely they will find more in Siberia.
The CURIOUS thing is that while most Chinese and SE Asians are descended from this ancestral lineage through M214--->M175, M214 itself is not found in even north Chinese. So, basically, the Chinese are lineage-wise different from the Tibeto Burmans. The Chinese are in fact more similar to Hmong, Tai, and Mon-Khmer, and Austronesians on the father's side than they are to Tibeto-Burmans.
Thus, it implies that the Sino-Tibetan nomads conquered the agricultural people of north China and imposed their language on them. There is also increasingly archeological evidence for this.
http://library.ibp.ac.cn/html/slwj/000222645600001.pdf
Try it. If it doesn't work I can PM or post the PDF for you. I doubt you'll be able to make much sense of the PDF without a basic understanding of genetics tho.. Those PDF's are basically all in "technical" language without "getting to the point".. just go to the summaries if that happens.
Ok, it's working now. Lemme explain it to you anyway. Basically, M175/Haplogroup O and Haplogroup N are the quintessential Asian lineages. They just found the ancestral type of this lineage, M214 in the Tibeto-Burman speakers who've "recently" moved into the SW of China, and in the people of Xinjiang, as well as in Mongolia. Chances are likely they will find more in Siberia.
The CURIOUS thing is that while most Chinese and SE Asians are descended from this ancestral lineage through M214--->M175, M214 itself is not found in even north Chinese. So, basically, the Chinese are lineage-wise different from the Tibeto Burmans. The Chinese are in fact more similar to Hmong, Tai, and Mon-Khmer, and Austronesians on the father's side than they are to Tibeto-Burmans.
Thus, it implies that the Sino-Tibetan nomads conquered the agricultural people of north China and imposed their language on them. There is also increasingly archeological evidence for this.
Thanks User! I'll read it when I get home from school today.
After reading the research, it reminded me of a story my parents used to tell me when I was a child and which was told to them by their parents. It says that a long, long time ago Hmong and Chinese were two brothers, but for some reason or another they went their separate ways and one became the progenitor of the Hmong people and the other became the progenitor of the Chinese people. The Hmong people in China have a saying "the Hmong have Chinese bones and the Chinese have Hmong blood." Anyhow, that's another story in itself.
Where can I find more research on this subject?
Where can I find more research on this subject?
QUOTE(InstantKarma @ Jan 20 2005, 04:53 PM)
After reading the research, it reminded me of a story my parents used to tell me when I was a child and which was told to them by their parents. It says that a long, long time ago Hmong and Chinese were two brothers, but for some reason or another they went their separate ways and one became the progenitor of the Hmong people and the other became the progenitor of the Chinese people. The Hmong people in China have a saying "the Hmong have Chinese bones and the Chinese have Hmong blood." Anyhow, that's another story in itself.
Where can I find more research on this subject?
Where can I find more research on this subject?
northen chinese were deeply mixed with,xiongnu,turk,jurchen,khitan,tieling,huihe,manchu,mongols................
northen chinese are quite differ from those southerners
Hmm, Gotta Jot this down in my NoteBook 
I don't think that any of us should be ashamed of calling ourselves "Miao." Many Hmong mistaken the term Miao. There are many defintions to the term Miao. What the Chinese use to call us is totally different than what the rest of Southeast Asia calls us. Southeast Asia mainly teases us by calling us Cats, but the Chinese calls us "Miao" or "苗" which means "Sprout" or "Sprouting Seed." There should be no shame when you really know what it means. Don't take it too seriously, especially if you don't know what it means. Always make sure you know the facts first.
I'm sure that our Chinese brothers wouldn't delibrately make fun of us like that. "Cat" is just a way that others have found a way to make fun of us, but we shouldn't let it get to ourselves. We have a proud and strong history to hold up high for others to see.
I'm sure that our Chinese brothers wouldn't delibrately make fun of us like that. "Cat" is just a way that others have found a way to make fun of us, but we shouldn't let it get to ourselves. We have a proud and strong history to hold up high for others to see.
HEY! Have you guys ever seen any of the Trailers for Tsui Hark's new movie called "Seven Swords"??? Is this Miao? The Headdress looks Miao.
look at the headdress on these "HAKKA" women of China [mountain people]
QUOTE(AiNi @ Jul 11 2005, 01:27 PM)
I don't think that any of us should be ashamed of calling ourselves "Miao." Many Hmong mistaken the term Miao. There are many defintions to the term Miao. What the Chinese use to call us is totally different than what the rest of Southeast Asia calls us. Southeast Asia mainly teases us by calling us Cats, but the Chinese calls us "Miao" or "苗" which means "Sprout" or "Sprouting Seed." There should be no shame when you really know what it means. Don't take it too seriously, especially if you don't know what it means. Always make sure you know the facts first.
I'm sure that our Chinese brothers wouldn't delibrately make fun of us like that. "Cat" is just a way that others have found a way to make fun of us, but we shouldn't let it get to ourselves. We have a proud and strong history to hold up high for others to see.
I'm sure that our Chinese brothers wouldn't delibrately make fun of us like that. "Cat" is just a way that others have found a way to make fun of us, but we shouldn't let it get to ourselves. We have a proud and strong history to hold up high for others to see.
well said.. ^^ miao = sprouting seed.. i like that.. =]
aww... thats nice i guess... ^_____^...<i'm a miao... haha
I personally perfer being call Hmong. The word "Miao" is an unapporaite name which i feel that others used to insult the Hmong Culture.
I think I would rather be called King
Is Miao prounonced Mee-ow?? No disrespect to any of you
Is Miao prounonced Mee-ow?? No disrespect to any of you
I know that the Laotians refer to Hmong as "Meo", Prounounced like "Mail" with a high tone. Not "meow"...
That's a derogatory form....
That's a derogatory form....
I don't know what the fuss is about. I'm proud I have a history called MIAO. Call me MIAO... I'm proud to be one. That is the word that was given to the Hmong people before they found the word "HMONG". So just accept it. Call me whatever you want...
And if you think that I'm totally disrespecting, I'm not... I just accept things as I learn them. It's not shameful to take the word Miao. So why be ashamed of the word itself. That's my opinion so I don't want any attacks if you're thinking of one.
And if you think that I'm totally disrespecting, I'm not... I just accept things as I learn them. It's not shameful to take the word Miao. So why be ashamed of the word itself. That's my opinion so I don't want any attacks if you're thinking of one.
QUOTE(raHNay @ Jul 22 2005, 09:15 AM)
That is the word that was given to the Hmong people before they found the word "HMONG". So just accept it. Call me whatever you want...
Hmmmm......Anyways, Miao is nothing bad.....like said 10000000 times before, it means "sprouting seed"...like a sprouting seed after a devastation.....seriously....
MEO is bad.....dont be a proud MEO
QUOTE(First_Born @ Jul 21 2005, 05:51 AM)
I think I would rather be called King
Is Miao prounonced Mee-ow?? No disrespect to any of you
Is Miao prounonced Mee-ow?? No disrespect to any of you
Miao = Maow
btw peeps.. long time ago at work..where i work there is always a lot of old chinese couples who comes for coffee..they always complement, "you have nice skin.. oh you pretty..are you chinese?" i replied, "no, i'm miao.." guess what? they replied, "oooh! we know miao..they from china.."
=DDDDD
=DDDDD
QUOTE(bABiedoLL @ Jul 21 2005, 01:31 AM)
I personally perfer being call Hmong. The word "Miao" is an unapporaite name which i feel that others used to insult the Hmong Culture.
let them say what they... don't let others take your name away you know.. you know you're a sprouting seed.. not a cat...
well i guess i'm proud to be hmong and miao
QUOTE(optimistic @ Aug 1 2005, 02:31 PM)
well i guess i'm proud to be hmong and miao
excellent ; )
QUOTE(optimistic @ Aug 1 2005, 04:31 PM)
well i guess i'm proud to be hmong and miao
And proud to be Asian-American
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