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JimTungLe
A once-esteemed Vietnamese actor, Don Duong recently has performed in American films. He starred in "Green Dragon" (2001) as a refugee who leaves South Vietnam before its conquest in 1975. ("Green Dragon" depicts the "first wave" of over 100,000 refugees in 1975. Two million more would flee Vietnam.) In last year's "We Were Soldiers," Duong played a North Vietnamese colonel in the 1965 Battle of Ia Drang.

He is now being Persecuted by Communists for performing in American films




Don Duong and Mel Gibson

Link: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31408

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"Don't listen to what the Communists say, but look into what they are doing."
DavidPham
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He is now being Persecuted by Communists for performing in American films

Don Duong and Mel Gibson


This is ashame, The Socialist Repulic of Vietnam needs to understand, that if you want to gather investments and want to open up the country.

This is 2005, Now I know why there arent Elections held in Vietnam.

The Communist want to control everything.

This is ashame, I hope Don Duong will just immigrant to another country where he can truly be accepted no matter what roles he plays.

This is an Actor, come on !

Wake up Hanoi
herosword
Actually there are elections in Vietnam. The qualifier is that the only people who can run must be Communist Party approved. There is only one party so the government’s slate of candidates are the only one who can win. This also goes for elevation to the priesthood or a high position in the Catholic Church. Despite guaranteeing freedom of religion in its bylaw the communist government take an active role in selecting who can become a priest or minister; one also must be party approved. This oppression is not only against Christians but also Buddhists. Buddhists monks have burned themselves alive in the past to protest Communist oppression. Others Buddhist leaders were forced to flee the country.
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Andrew Lam, Pacific News Service:
http://www.fva.org/0595/monk.html
“If anyone has replaced the long dead communist Uncle Ho, it is an aged monk named Thich Huyen Quang, the abbot of the outlawed United Buddhist Church of Vietnam, who has been imprisoned without trial since last December. When authorities moved to arrest Thich Huyen Quang late last year, a dozen monks and laymen were planning to immolate themselves to protest religious oppression. The last thing Hanoi could afford was to have pictures of monks going up in flames flashed across the global media.”

Vietnam: Buddhist Dissident Forced to Flee
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/06/23/vietna8943.htm

Vietnam: Independent Investigation of Easter Week Atrocities Needed Now
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2004/05/27/vietna8625.htm

Human Rights Conditions in Vietnam http://hrw.org/english/docs/2003/12/29/vietna6887.htm

Vietnam: Refugee Monk's Arrest a Mockery of Justice
http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/09/vietnam091703.htm
"The case of Thich Tri Luc highlights so many of the abuses that the Vietnamese government routinely commits. Harsh repression of a religious believer, the apparent abduction and incommunicado detention of a peaceful dissident, and complicity in violation of international refugee law are all part of a broader pattern in Vietnam. These practices must stop."
Brad Adams, executive director of the Asia Division of Human Rights Watch

Vietnam's Crackdown on Cyber-dissidents
http://hrw.org/press/2003/06/vietnam061703.htm
"Vietnam's crackdown on critics who use the Internet to peacefully disseminate their ideas or communicate with democracy advocates abroad appears to be escalating... These harsh prison sentences and vaguely worded charges of spying appear designed to intimidate not only government critics, but everyone in Vietnam who uses the Internet." Minky Worden
Electronic media director at Human Rights Watch


Even if you’re a Party Member and served your country’s military you’re not spared from its corruption and unlawful abuse of human rights!http://hrw.org/advocacy/internet/dissidents/5.htm

"Former North Vietnamese army officer and businessman Nguyen Khac Toan, forty-seven, was arrested on January 8, 2002, a day after meeting prominent dissident Nguyen Thanh Giang. Mr. Toan, an outgoing entrepreneur, was known to have assisted persons whose property had been confiscated by local authorities petition the government for redress. He was charged with having “collected complaints, information, documents and illegal articles spread by opposition figures in the country in order to put out information distorting the political situation” in Vietnam, according to the Communist party newspaper” Human Rights Watch

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An update on Don Duong. He recently went on Asia Entertainment’s latest video to denounce the communist government. On watching the same version of this video in Vietnam the part where Don Duong made his appearance was conveniently left out.

I also recently visited Vietnam and took the opportunity to watch Vietnamese television. Every 15 minutes in between shows, there is a propaganda commercial by the government. It shows the brave Cong San fighting to liberate their “oppressed” South Vietnamese brothers. You saw brave images from the Vietnam War of professionals soldiers in uniforms, jumping from helicopters, tanks, and marching in formation. The commercial accidentally forgot to mention those were images of the South Vietnamese military. Opps.

Then I also saw lots of households in the countryside and in the city flying communists flags. I thought, wow, they must really love their country. Then I went in and talked to these average everyday citizens. They told me that cronies working for communists officials actually go around telling people to fly the flag. They tell me they do it more out of fear than for love of country. You know a government is a failure if it has to coerce its people to love it.

Please go back to Vietnam for yourself and see the beautiful elegant women, the scenery and observe the corruption and hard life that our people live under. Such a noble people deserve better than a corrupt, inefficient government that exploit them and rule by fear rather than justice and law.
quocthaibinhan
There was site dedicated to this theme and the movie "we were warriors" and other wars.

When I corrected the purposefully made and left in grammar mistakes and posted it there. Of course it was only one post and only an excerpt, then I stood back and watched these people chanted about the film but fell silent on my excerpt. After a few months the site claimed that there was a virus attack or some hacker got in and closed the site down. I did not save anything since I thought it would stay a bit longer , but it was funny seeing how these "warriors" had nothing to say about my post then closed the whole site down . Some guys said they had saved every threads and offered to upload it, but offer was not taken and the site got pulled . Some suggested I should post my thread on BBC, but that forum there was and still is so horriblly disorganised: any threads can be burried quickly, so I didn't bother.

Now this is real warriors' stuff . Don't know why communist Vietnam is worried about this film when my excerpt of a simple thread at the very early time in the debate shut the whole site and other similar sites down . The more they raise fuss about this film the more something it seems they got to hide . But the communists can not enter into any dialogue anyway : they too got something to hide.

Now you can not find any forums that say: "We Were Warriors".

We were murderers and rapists and liars and deniers more like it.

Any forums about Vietnam war or other wars and history let me know; I will see how good the site is.
vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
man , i understand the people who hate Viet Cong so much (i myself do too but not to the extreme) but posting this sh!t on the net will not make Hanoi fall , that was ridiculous in Don Duong case !!
herosword
QUOTE (vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe @ Jan 22 2005, 01:02 PM)
man , i understand the people who hate Viet Cong so much (i myself do too but not to the extreme) but posting this sh!t on the net will not make Hanoi fall , that was ridiculous in Don Duong case !!
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Haha...how do you know I'm just a loser posting $hit on the internet? How do you know I'm not actively involved in political activity to pressure the communists government to respect human rights?

As least by speaking up instead of remaining silent like you, I become the solution instead of abetting the problem. Political apathy by Vietnamese abroad is the one thing weakening our people both in the America and in Vietnam. Reflect on this on your spare time.
JimTungLe
User: quocthaibinhan

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Now you can not find any forums that say: "We Were Warriors".

We were murderers and rapists and liars and deniers more like it.

Any forums about Vietnam war or other wars and history let me know; I will see how good the site is.


Start a New Thread, your statements are baseless, you have not come with any relevant facts from a "Independent Source"

I on the other hand have listed Numerous Independent Sources and also Encyclopedia References.

Jim Tung Le
herosword
He's telling us of how the government shut down sites that are critical of it. He "accidentally" posted something just to see if they would respond. They did, they shut down the site.

QUOTE (JimTungLe @ Jan 22 2005, 06:07 PM)
User: quocthaibinhan

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Now you can not find any forums that say: "We Were Warriors".

We were murderers and rapists and liars and deniers more like it.

Any forums about Vietnam war or other wars and history let me know; I will see how good the site is.


Start a New Thread, your statements are baseless, you have not come with any relevant facts from a "Independent Source"

I on the other hand have listed Numerous Independent Sources and also Encyclopedia References.

Jim Tung Le
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vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
QUOTE (herosword @ Jan 22 2005, 01:16 PM)
QUOTE (vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe @ Jan 22 2005, 01:02 PM)
man , i understand the people who hate Viet Cong so much (i myself do too but not to the extreme) but posting this sh!t on the net will not make Hanoi fall , that was ridiculous in Don Duong case !!
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Haha...how do you know I'm just a loser posting $hit on the internet? How do you know I'm not actively involved in political activity to pressure the communists government to respect human rights?

As least by speaking up instead of remaining silent like you, I become the solution instead of abetting the problem. Political apathy by Vietnamese abroad is the one thing weakening our people both in the America and in Vietnam. Reflect on this on your spare time.
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hahaha me staying silent , i'd rather help out with the Chinese killing Vietnamese fishermen problem then to curse and post all stupid sh!ts against Vietnam right now !!
quocthaibinhan
I am no side, and independent, you could not get anymore independent. It is those that support the lies about the film shut it down.

More proves go where i have stated. Here it is if you have not got it

www.vietmedia.com
quocthaibinhan
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As least by speaking up instead of remaining silent like you, I become the solution instead of abetting the problem.


How spreading the same 50 year old crap/routine going to help . Why can 't you start a new .
herosword
QUOTE (vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe @ Jan 22 2005, 10:06 PM)
QUOTE (herosword @ Jan 22 2005, 01:16 PM)
QUOTE (vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe @ Jan 22 2005, 01:02 PM)
man , i understand the people who hate Viet Cong so much (i myself do too but not to the extreme) but posting this sh!t on the net will not make Hanoi fall , that was ridiculous in Don Duong case !!
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Haha...how do you know I'm just a loser posting $hit on the internet? How do you know I'm not actively involved in political activity to pressure the communists government to respect human rights?

As least by speaking up instead of remaining silent like you, I become the solution instead of abetting the problem. Political apathy by Vietnamese abroad is the one thing weakening our people both in the America and in Vietnam. Reflect on this on your spare time.
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hahaha me staying silent , i'd rather help out with the Chinese killing Vietnamese fishermen problem then to curse and post all stupid sh!ts against Vietnam right now !!
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Right...you want me to join in your stupid racial war. Now that's a truly waste of time. This is the internet. What would I gain by winning petty fights. It's more about sharing and analyzing information. You say you are against the communists yet you tell me I'm wasting my time by discussing political issue.

Vietpride Worldwide. I could tell right away you one of those loser thugs. What do you know about viet pride. It means nothing to you. I been on this forum long enough and read enough of your post. Get lost loser. Go back to your little racial war and leave the the political issues to people who really care about Vietnam.


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How spreading the same 50 year old crap/routine going to help . Why can 't you start a new .


I'm sorry I misunderstood you. Your english is very incomprehensible sometimes. Well, Mr. Independent communist, this stuff actually happens very recently and continue on today. Is it crap? Haha, well, I guess you consider vietnamese crap so their plight is not important to talk about.

Truly, I really wish this type of stuff happened 50 years ago and the communist government changed. The problem is it's still happening today; please read up on vietnamese current event before you open your $hitty mouth. Have a nice day you piece of crap. biggthumpup.gif
vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
cant u fu-cking see Viet Cong took over VN for over 30 years and what can we do now ?? screaming and cussing and protesting against Vietcong in VN , what damage did we do to them ?? did we take back VN yet ?? haev u heard what Nguyen Cao Ky said lately when he came back to VN ?? he knew this sh!t like ur doing are pointless , that is why he kinda gave up !! now that is my mother fu-cking opinion , u can say ur opinion , but dont fuc-king tell me to get lost , i repect ur opinions , do dont disrepect and get mad at me . Maybe i dont know what is really Viet pride but i just know that , any mother fu-cker dissing my family or my race , i will beat the sh!t outta them !!
quocthaibinhan
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I'm sorry I misunderstood you. Your english is very incomprehensible sometimes. Well, Mr. Independent communist, this stuff actually happens very recently and continue on today.


How many degrees do you want me to stuff down your throat and calling me a communist independent or otherwise just shows how comprehending you are, and your three worms.

The question still stands why can't you guys , three worms , start a new instead of repeating the same 50 year routine crap, three worms chant against communists. Has any of it worked and when . Three worms are just second grade grease for the auto slaving machine. Don't understand go and read. You should know where, don't you ?? Perhaps not,

Here www.vietmedia.com .
JimTungLe
User: vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
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cant u fu-cking see Viet Cong took over VN for over 30 years and what can we do now ?? screaming and cussing and protesting against Vietcong in VN , what damage did we do to them ?? did we take back VN yet ?? haev u heard what Nguyen Cao Ky said lately when he came back to VN ?? he knew this sh!t like ur doing are pointless , that is why he kinda gave up !!


Nguyen Cao Ky is not an example, because he is only a minority.

Nguyen Cao Ky: http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_arti...8044655f9971ad7

Please listen to Radio Free Vietnam for relevant Vietnamese that want Freedom for Vietnam.

Link: http://www.rfvn.com/
herosword
No-Vietpride Worldwide, Nguyen Cao Ky is your hero. Go suck his balls and stop whinning, you piece of $hit. I have no use for thugs like you. Do I b!tch and whine? That is something losers like you do. Worse you have given up. And even worst still you have become an obstructionist. You have no dream so you try to destroy others dream. Go work in your nail salon, fool. As I said before, you think we just b!tch and whine and give up like you. Do you know Vietnamese in top university of America right now? NOT fu-kING LOSERs like you! WE are the sons and daugthers of Vietnam and of ARVN army officers and even a few boat people. We continue to hold onto a dream of a better country. You are wretch because you have lost that dream.

I am ashamed to have to share the great name of "Vietnamese" with dumbass thugs like you. Go fu-k your hoes and leave the political business to the adults.
Byron
QUOTE (herosword @ Jan 23 2005, 03:43 PM)
No-Vietpride Worldwide, Nguyen Cao Ky is your hero.  Go suck his balls and stop whinning, you piece of $hit.  I have no use for thugs like you.  Do I b!tch and whine?  That is something losers like you do. Worse you have given up.  And even worst still you have become an obstructionist.  You have no dream so you try to destroy others dream.  Go work in your nail salon, fool.  As I said before, you think we just b!tch and whine and give up like you.  Do you know Vietnamese in top university of America right now?  NOT fu-kING LOSERs like you!  WE are the sons and daugthers of Vietnam and of  ARVN army officers and even a few boat people.  We continue to hold onto a dream of a better country.  You are wretch because you have lost that dream.

I am ashamed to have to share the great name of "Vietnamese" with dumbass thugs like you.  Go fu-k your hoes and leave the political business to the adults.
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^Ouch. Don't you think you went a little too harsh on the guy?
herosword
I probably am a bit too harsh. Thugs piss me off though. Byron you annoy me and we are different side, but at least you most for the most part try to back up your claims (not recently though). Dumbass thugs should recognize they're dumb and shut the fu-k up!

QUOTE (Byron @ Jan 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
QUOTE (herosword @ Jan 23 2005, 03:43 PM)
No-Vietpride Worldwide, Nguyen Cao Ky is your hero.  Go suck his balls and stop whinning, you piece of $hit.  I have no use for thugs like you.   Do I b!tch and whine?  That is something losers like you do. Worse you have given up.  And even worst still you have become an obstructionist.  You have no dream so you try to destroy others dream.  Go work in your nail salon, fool.  As I said before, you think we just b!tch and whine and give up like you.  Do you know Vietnamese in top university of America right now?  NOT fu-kING LOSERs like you!  WE are the sons and daugthers of Vietnam and of  ARVN army officers and even a few boat people.  We continue to hold onto a dream of a better country.  You are wretch because you have lost that dream.

I am ashamed to have to share the great name of "Vietnamese" with dumbass thugs like you.  Go fu-k your hoes and leave the political business to the adults.
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^Ouch. Don't you think you went a little too harsh on the guy?
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vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
QUOTE (herosword @ Jan 23 2005, 03:43 PM)
No-Vietpride Worldwide, Nguyen Cao Ky is your hero.  Go suck his balls and stop whinning, you piece of $hit.  I have no use for thugs like you.  Do I b!tch and whine?  That is something losers like you do. Worse you have given up.  And even worst still you have become an obstructionist.  You have no dream so you try to destroy others dream.  Go work in your nail salon, fool.  As I said before, you think we just b!tch and whine and give up like you.  Do you know Vietnamese in top university of America right now?  NOT fu-kING LOSERs like you!  WE are the sons and daugthers of Vietnam and of  ARVN army officers and even a few boat people.  We continue to hold onto a dream of a better country.  You are wretch because you have lost that dream.

I am ashamed to have to share the great name of "Vietnamese" with dumbass thugs like you.  Go fu-k your hoes and leave the political business to the adults.
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sorry sir but the way ur talking to me right now make u look more like a thug than me , you are the son of a b!tch and an @ssholes , not of VN hahahaha , u fu-cking loser , sh!tty mouth embarassedlaugh.gif
quocthaibinhan
None of the three worms can answer me this and they say they want democracy where criticisms and questions are the norm as well as the insults .

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The question still stands why can't you guys , three worms , start a new instead of repeating the same 50 year routine crap, three worms chant against communists. Has any of it worked and when . Three worms are just second grade grease for the auto slaving machine. Don't understand go and read. You should know where, don't you ?? Perhaps not,

Here www.vietmedia.com .


I hope someone is not trying to vent his frustration on someone else because I can stuff him up . icon_smile.gif
Byron
I say we should all calm down and debate in a calm manner.
herosword
I will debate with reasonbly intelligent people. Idiots, I don't want to waste my time with. What do you get by winning a debate on the internet? As one funny sig that I wish I saved said: Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded. embarassedlaugh.gif


QUOTE (Byron @ Jan 23 2005, 06:11 PM)
I say we should all calm down and debate in a calm manner.
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Amen, amen I say to you: this article is so true...so true...

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"Last month, after almost 30 years of exile in the United States, marred by financial disasters (bankrupt liquor and shrimp businesses) and personal problems (divorce), Ky was allowed by the Vietnamese government to come home to glorify the autocratic and repressive regime he once vowed to destroy."


Ky has such a beautiful wife. She appears on Asia Entertainment regularly, a network and entertainment company that continues to represent the free Vietnamese community abroad. It must be a shame for her to have such a deginerate husband. I glad she has divorced this LOSER.


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"By allowing Ky to return to Vietnam to praise its regime, Hanoi may have made a costly mistake. If the recent angry reaction of the Vietnamese community is any indication, the move has already backfired. Instead of fostering reconciliation and cooperation, Ky's trip has united the Vietnamese émigrés community and strengthened its resolve to fight for a free and democratic Vietnam."


Hey, I don't even live in Little Saigon and I'm pissed.


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"In the eyes most Vietnamese Americans, Ky's reputation has been forever tarnished. He will go down in history as a traitor to his country, to his former comrade-in-arms, to the fallen heroes of the Vietnam War, and to 80 million Vietnamese people still suffering from communist oppression. He will live the rest of his life in infamy -- in whichever community he chooses to call home. "


I never respected him because as a leader he abandoned his country in its time of crisis. Unlike the other South Vietnamese heroes who stay and fought to the end this LOSER fled and now he's return to kotow to his communist masters. Nguyen Cao Ky, you are an idiot. Do you think the communist will reward you for your obediance? You fought against them, and once they are finish using you they will discard you like the trash you are. And once that happen you can't run back to the Vietanmese-American community because we will never accept you.

Your former wife doesn't want to be associated with you and neither does your daughter. I pity your stupidity.
vIeTpRidEs_wOrLdWiDe
herosword , u better shut the fu-ck up then , u fuc-king started this , u better end it b!tch !!
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