I wish some koreans turn into Anders Breivik and do something about it.

The 양놈 annoy the crap outta me, too. I avoid them whenever possible, but I'm stuck working with a few. Loud, obnoxious, arrogant...Most of them have lived in Korea for years, some have Korean spouses, and yet they refuse to learn the freaking language or figure out how society works. Sometimes I wish they'd all go away and I'd be the only foreigner over here. I am not joking.

With all due respect, what in the world are you saying?

blame it on ur pathetic government. it's not the foreigners' fault.

Who, me or the OP?

Bacon rules, by the way.

Never thought about this until now,
But how does a foreigner teach English if they don't speak the local language?

Poorly, usually.

I use a lot of comparative grammar when I teach, but I teach in a university, so my students are better able to deal with it. It's frowned upon for foreign instructors to speak too much Korean in class.

When I want to teach vocabulary, I write the Korean word on the board in 한글 and pronounce the English. I also tell my students that if they don't know how to say something in English, they can say it in Korean and I'll translate for them.

For those who don't speak Korean at all, though, I'd guess that they just don't get as much across to their students and simplify their tests to reflect this.

There are obnoxious frat boy kinds but I've seen many cool cats or mature lifers, too. The OP didn't have to bring that creepy mofo's name.

Yeah, the ones I know who are pretty cool are low-profile, so they're not represented much by the media.

Doggyi, do you live in korea?, and did you learn english there. Just curious.

Bacon is life

I was talking to kaizen, because the last thing any country (including Korea) want is some crazed person to act just like Anders Breivik {if my humble interpretation is correct}.

I live in Canada. I was OK with English in Korea.

I really doubt if kaizen meant that literally. Probably just letting out some exasperation. At least, I hope so. Anyway, it would be really, really hard to get guns and ammo over here. Not impossible, but really, really difficult.

(Bacon is what is right with the universe. Praise the lard.)

I never thought Kaizen was such a hater lol. and hell no we do not want any more serial killers here in korea.

You're a pathetic troll that knows nothing about Korea, but likes to pretend that he knows $hit when he doesn't.

LOL

you really are quite a piece of work you.

Have you looked into the talk program?

No cause i don't know what that is..... Also i have no degree...ᅲᅮ

This Thread +1

For every 1 bad ESL teacher, there are 5 that have brought so many positives to the country. Moreover, for many ESLs their experience in Korea has touched their lives. Let's keep things in perspective shall we. Being ignorant will only lead to stagnation. Korea's performance has been due to progressiveness and so it shall continue.

yay! we get +1internets?

How many positives could ESL teachers bring to South Korea? I mean they're just there to teach English. What another positives could there be? I mean engineers, for example, and other more intellectual and demanding jobs brings more benefits to a country.

I'm just curious though, granted I don't know much about the benefits of ESL teachers to South Korea.

How do you know this?

Just so I'm clear on this - the OP is wanting a shooting spree? Seriously?

That's Fooked up.

Kaizen, come on, man - where's this coming from?

Kathleen Stephens, the current U.S. ambassador to S Korea was an English teacher in Korea 36 years ago. She's also one of the few ambassadors to Korea whose Korean language skill is at native level, along with Japanese ambassador, Masatoshi Muto. She has thousand of Korean friends including her former faculties. Her ex husband was also a Korean.

Her term of service in Korea will be expired soon. Kim Sung, a Korean American might be a next U.S. ambassador to S Korea.

Kathleen Stephens visiting her old school at Yesan, South Choongchong province





Kathleen Stephens on a bicycle tour with students in Korea

What a load of rubbish stats
Make more bs up.

And do you have stats to prove any different? Are there actually stats for that sort of thing?

The truth is people are getting their opinions from personal experience with ESL teaching expats, through online blogs and such, or from thin air.

Which opinion would you prefer to hear?

So you've got an OP using the word 'faggot' and hoping for the mass killing of people. And you've got some posters cheering and supporting it...

And your issue with with some anecdotal statistics?


Hmmmmmmmm


Cheering for mass killing vs. Anecdotal statistics


Yeah, I can see which side a reasonable person would take issue with.

No I don't do stats that's why I said it's rubbish.
Statistics based on these kinds of things are never accurate

Do I agree with the OP??

No not at all, I have no opinion on this matter
Other than disagreeing with bs stats ppl make up.

What opinion would you prefer to hear??

Teaching English isn't just teaching a language, if you do it well. You also help break down barriers between cultures and facilitate mutual understanding and the removal of prejudice, misperceptions and racism. I'm still in contact with students I taught over a decade ago.

I also used to volunteer at 청주맹학교 (School for the Blind) when I was still living there. A couple of weeks ago, I read a news story asking for foreign volunteers to meet children of North Korean defectors, not just for language teaching, but to help break down the fear and prejudice that those kids were brainwashed with. I volunteered to help, but I was too late. They had so many English native speakers that volunteered before me that they had to take them on a first-come, first-serve basis, just to be fair.

There are booger-eating morons over here that do little more than make money and get drunk. BUT, it would be just wrong to say that ALL foreigners who come over here to teach are like that. That sort of thinking is what leads to racism in the first place. ALL of these people are like THAT. Just sloppy, lazy thinking.

Well said !!

these esl teachers have been spoiled by the korean government and korean society for far too long...

The same old haters spamming K-Chat with the same old agenda. I'm not saying there is no social analysis you can make at all but these haters always ridiculously blow things out of proportion with hateful words.

This is a Mature Fourm now? Is pornography allowed? Nudity of any kind? No

The word is full of venom and has no place here. This is not a hate site and should not become one. Saying you want some people killed should never be acceptable here. And unless you are Kaizen, you do not know his motive and intent in posting. Only he can attest to that.




Really? Spoiled? How so?

How have they been spoiled by the Korean government?

Yeah, it's the same everywhere online. Just about every forum has at least a couple of people like that. SNAFU. Ho-hum.

^ And when the hate spammers are not handled properly, other posters are fed up and leave the forum making it even more hater-dominant. Many forums with no or weak/biased moderation turn like that.

I haven't been on this forum long enough to have much of an impression of the moderation practices, but I have noticed quite a few spam posts and even whole spam threads that haven't been deleted. I'm not one for censorship, but the title of this thread does smack of hate speech.

that's a little extreme, but I understand. It's not like Korean will do anything about it though the ESL teachers that is.

Kaizen it's in your head much like everything else.

Here in AF people talk about ideas instead of talking crap about other people. You are the only one making accusations about American expats.

Maybe you need to communicate better.

Korea needs a bloodbath to clean itself out. A war with north korea and china should clean out the fithy koreand race.

Sharky you are not even Korean. Your a white weasel.

Why would you say you get stared when walking around Korea with a Korean female in your arms? If you were Korean you wouldn't getting stares.

Pathetic.

If you were specially pleasure inducing corean like me you would get stares too.

I guess you say "Corean" to mean Caucasian + Korean. I'm slow. Btw, your sarcasm isn't very obvious sometimes. I don't think it's just me.

Nope I'm 100% corean.

Real coreans like me understands that only way to stave off invasion from invasion from north korea and threat of china is to become internationally accepted country and only way to achieve that is to be wide open for western contributions. So spead em' wide koreans.

um no china is not in the least interested in invading korea, i assure u. extending its territories and control is the last thing china wants. its hands are full already with the ethnic tensions in the west, tibet, taiwan, overpopulation, energy sustainability, the list goes on...and north korea probably doesn't want to invade either.

so the question u should be asking urself is this: how can koreans stave off invasion from america and the west? and i don't mean invasions with missiles and tanks, but a invasion of ur culture, of ur identity and ur genes. how will u save urself from THAT? i think this is a relevant question when discussing the issue of esl teachers...

Kaizen + whoever shares similar views. Its ignorant racists such as yourself that give koreans a bad name abroad. STFU and make peace. You need to take a good look in the mirror and admit that Korea too has a reputation as being an inherently racist and nationalistic country.
There has been and there still is an emphasis on "mantaining the pure korean blood" (remember germany?), and as such its got a lot to do with the social conditioning the korean government and its media subjects its citizens to and coupled with the lack of social interaction with foreigners (9 times out of ten due to self-segregation) which you should also be aware of. Take steps to dump that trash from your mind.

The reason you feel intimidated by 'esl faggot expats' is probably a result of some male inferiority complex (and you are a guy, im sure, as no self-respecting woman would speak the way you do), u probably also have trouble meeting women (both korean and non-korean), which compounds your 'Napoleonic' issues and as a result (which is applicable to ALL humans, regardless of ethnicity/race), leads you to to subconsciously shift the blame to an externality (the faggot esl expat) as it is all too easy to point the finger at the foreigner.

People such as yourself who harbor such meaningless resentment towards other people (particularly other races/ethnicites) are the sole cause of most of the worst atrocities humankind has ever played a part in. Its a shame that there are still people like you walking this earth. Perhaps i am over-analyzing you, perhaps not. Either way, you need an education - rise up above your prejudices and ignorance and embrace life with everything it has to offer.

Whoever saves one life, saves the world entire, whoever destroys one life, destroys the world entire...

Sieg heil to the master race. Korean DNA is 100% unique. Not a trace of Chinese, Mongolian or Japanese DNA anywhere in it. Nope. Not a trace.

waste, by-product of sucky fu-ky and an ESL faggot.