Whenever I see the Russian Empire during it's early days, the white ppl just "claim to own" whatever one single explorer ventured into the dark wintry abyss (ie. Northern Siberia), then claim it as territory under their empire.
It's almost the same as less than 1000-2000 British or French "explorers" claiming to own the continent of North America like children playing with crayons on a piece of paper.
Yet, they don't extend this courtesy to the Mongols, who clearly would have claims the sparsely populated Northern Siberia if it would had made a difference between the British empire and Mongol empire.
Like, a tiny island of 15 million (britain) never really "occupied" territories in the North America because it was sooooo sparsely populated. They just claimed everything that an explorer found and never had a sizeable populated settlement in the territories they claimed.
Why didn't Mongolia do the same to Nrothern Siberia and claim it? Or if they did claim Northern Siberia, why isn't the Mongol empire map reflect this? Bigger number!
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I wonder about the same things.
- Why didn't the Altaic nomads consolidate their hold over Central Asia and Siberia?
- Why didn't the Ming Dynasty takeover the Americas and Oceania even though their navy was superior to that of the entire European continent?
The result is that Asians are stuck with overcrowded cities while whites have lots of empty space. Altaic nomads lacked manpower, technology, and industry while East Asians lacked warrior personalities.
- Why didn't the Altaic nomads consolidate their hold over Central Asia and Siberia?
- Why didn't the Ming Dynasty takeover the Americas and Oceania even though their navy was superior to that of the entire European continent?
The result is that Asians are stuck with overcrowded cities while whites have lots of empty space. Altaic nomads lacked manpower, technology, and industry while East Asians lacked warrior personalities.
england was overpopulated so they needed more space. mongolia on the other hand was only sparsely populated so they didn't feel the push to explore and claim lands like the europeans.
Believe me the Russians went everywhere but unlike the Anglo-saksons they dont make a big deal out of it...
QUOTE (Chagatai @ Aug 18 2011, 05:13 AM) 
Believe me the Russians went everywhere but unlike the Anglo-saksons they dont make a big deal out of it...
the Russians inherited by default a part of the Chingiz khan empire after the western chingizids killed each other which resulted in the weakness of the whole state of Altyn Orda (the Golden Horde). Even the Kossaks hired by the Russians to fight with the steppe people and conquer new lands were originally altaic people then they mixed with europoids then they changed phenotype and became europoids. Now they are included into Russian ethnic areal being their loyal servants. But they still have a lot of words of turkic origin, mostly indicating military service etc. This is one more example of loosing the strenth in favour of different ethnicity and race. All Siberia, the North of Central Asia and the North of Caucasus (turkic speaking lands) were lost this way.
QUOTE (Chagatai @ Aug 18 2011, 06:13 AM)
Believe me the Russians went everywhere but unlike the Anglo-saksons they dont make a big deal out of it...
russia always seemed to be composed of really introverted and sulky types of personalities. they seem to be in their own little world
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Aug 15 2011, 11:11 AM)
I wonder about the same things.
- Why didn't the Altaic nomads consolidate their hold over Central Asia and Siberia?
- Why didn't the Ming Dynasty takeover the Americas and Oceania even though their navy was superior to that of the entire European continent?
The result is that Asians are stuck with overcrowded cities while whites have lots of empty space. Altaic nomads lacked manpower, technology, and industry while East Asians lacked warrior personalities.
- Why didn't the Altaic nomads consolidate their hold over Central Asia and Siberia?
- Why didn't the Ming Dynasty takeover the Americas and Oceania even though their navy was superior to that of the entire European continent?
The result is that Asians are stuck with overcrowded cities while whites have lots of empty space. Altaic nomads lacked manpower, technology, and industry while East Asians lacked warrior personalities.
its because of people like you that racism exists in other non western countries against asians.
there is nothing wrong with semitic people. there is something definetly wrong with europeans.
I have never heard of arabs wanting to wipe china off the map and alot see china as neutral or friendly. they think all non western countries that are oppressed should stand together, and some don't have problems with china being communist.
with people like you, that might change
by the way, arabs share some of your stereotypes about blacks
muammar al gaddafi wrote this in his green book on blacks
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Black people are now in a very backward social situation, but such backwardness works to bring about their numerical superiority because their low standard of living has shielded them from methods of birth control and family planning. Also, their old social traditions place no limit on marriages, leading to their accelerated growth. The population of other races has decreased because of birth control, restrictions on marriage, and constant occupation in work, unlike the Blacks, who tend to be less obsessive about work in a climate which is continuously hot. Therefore, black people will prevail.
he claimed because of this blacks would be the superior race in the future
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Tomorrow Europe might no longer be European, and even black, as there are millions who want to come … We don’t know what will happen, what will be the reaction of the white and Christian Europeans faced with this influx of starving and ignorant Africans… We don’t know if Europe will remain an advanced and united continent or if it will be destroyed, as happened with the barbarian invasions.
QUOTE (reutty @ Aug 27 2011, 09:37 AM)
its because of people like you that racism exists in other non western countries against asians.
incorrect
It's just a natural response to be suspicious of foreign races. There is no such thing as a "pan-colored alliance against evil whitey." Anyway, I am a racial separatist. Asians should not meddle in the affairs of other races. Other races should not meddle in the affairs of Asians.
QUOTE (reutty @ Aug 27 2011, 09:37 AM)
there is nothing wrong with semitic people. there is something definetly wrong with europeans.
I have never heard of arabs wanting to wipe china off the map and alot see china as neutral or friendly. they think all non western countries that are oppressed should stand together, and some don't have problems with china being communist.
I have never heard of arabs wanting to wipe china off the map and alot see china as neutral or friendly. they think all non western countries that are oppressed should stand together, and some don't have problems with china being communist.
Arab Muslims "convert by the sword." If the west disappears, they will come after East Asia next. Those Australoid Muslims from Indonesia don't like Chinese BTW.
QUOTE (reutty @ Aug 27 2011, 09:37 AM)
with people like you, that might change
by the way, arabs share some of your stereotypes about blacks
muammar al gaddafi wrote this in his green book on blacks
he claimed because of this blacks would be the superior race in the future
by the way, arabs share some of your stereotypes about blacks
muammar al gaddafi wrote this in his green book on blacks
he claimed because of this blacks would be the superior race in the future
Looks like Gaddafi knows his facts. It's true that Arabs don't like blacks. Compared to whites, the Arabs were worse for African slaves.
LOL hahaha if you think that ANYONE but ANYONE thinks that China is Neutral and friendly you are well I have no words for it. I bet half the Chinese popultion doesn't think china is neutral and friendly.
Central Asian did fall behind because of Nationalism( I mean ethnicity and stuff wich they had no concept of) and Democracy( Democracy is a system were idiots get a vote hmmm, in the history of Altaic people from Japan to Anatolia they allways were the strongest under a great leader)
Central Asian did fall behind because of Nationalism( I mean ethnicity and stuff wich they had no concept of) and Democracy( Democracy is a system were idiots get a vote hmmm, in the history of Altaic people from Japan to Anatolia they allways were the strongest under a great leader)
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