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GentleWind
So I have a couple premises regarding conservation effort that I adhere to:
1) Conservation should focus on finding efficient and sustainable energy sources
2) Focus on equal distribution of resources, family planning, health care, education, etc. In short well being of human beings.
3) Man should not tamper with the environment and its animals...Currently there are laws in many countries to protect animals.
4) All human beings especially those who are in office or in position of powers should focus on compassion and step away from greed

Score 1000% for Buddha's teaching of increasing compassion and walking away from greed. I believe that pretty much all of human problems are caused by greed. And notice that these premises do not go by its order listed. That says you do have some sort of compassion if you like to see equal distribution of resources throughout the globe.
InitialDJay
how do you fix greed? lol
GentleWind
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Aug 18 2011, 01:13 AM) *
how do you fix greed? lol


Practice giving...meaning think and do things to benefit others. Greed is just want to take and take.

Also practice meditation.
Yer
QUOTE (GentleWind @ Aug 18 2011, 12:21 AM) *
So I have a couple premises regarding conservation effort that I adhere to:
1) Conservation should focus on finding efficient and sustainable energy sources
2) Focus on equal distribution of resources, family planning, health care, education, etc. In short well being of human beings.
3) Man should not tamper with the environment and its animals...Currently there are laws in many countries to protect animals.
4) All human beings especially those who are in office or in position of powers should focus on compassion and step away from greed

Score 1000% for Buddha's teaching of increasing compassion and walking away from greed. I believe that pretty much all of human problems are caused by greed. And notice that these premises do not go by its order listed. That says you do have some sort of compassion if you like to see equal distribution of resources throughout the globe.

Nah, you're forgetting pride, envy, wrath, sloth, lust, and gluttony. +1 for Christianity
GentleWind
QUOTE (Yer @ Aug 18 2011, 12:39 PM) *
Nah, you're forgetting pride, envy, wrath, sloth, lust, and gluttony. +1 for Christianity


All of that come from greed, anger, and ignorance which in turn come from the attachment of self, i.e. this physical body. The 3 poisons of the mind as we call them, and the 3 usually go together. I only mentioned greed because it's relevant to maintaining equal distribution of resources.

But we can accommodate Christian teachings too. There is always room to better well being of human beings.
Yer
QUOTE (GentleWind @ Aug 18 2011, 02:01 PM) *
All of that come from greed, anger, and ignorance which in turn come from the attachment of self, i.e. this physical body. The 3 poisons of the mind as we call them, and the 3 usually go together. I only mentioned greed because it's relevant to maintaining equal distribution of resources.

But we can accommodate Christian teachings too. There is always room to better well being of human beings.

I can explain pride, envy, wrath, lust and gluttony that way, but what about sloth?

I'm not trying nitpick or anything. Just curious.

Do you believe in equal distribution of resources in cases where some people are overly lazy? What do you do about those people?

I suppose the root of the problem is lack of compassion. If everyone loved each other, they'd work hard for each other's sake. How do you get people to have compassion?
GentleWind
QUOTE (Yer @ Aug 18 2011, 05:05 PM) *
I can explain pride, envy, wrath, lust and gluttony that way, but what about sloth?


Sloth is a big manifestation of self indulgence/pleasure. Like sleep and eating for examples are self indulgence that go hand-in-hand with sloth. Most of us are addicted to getting many hours of sleep. Eating most of us live to eat. Sloth is we only want to take/indulge-greed, but we don't want to work. Work is to give, contribute.

And to live for oneself is ignorance:

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Do you believe in equal distribution of resources in cases where some people are overly lazy? What do you do about those people?


Sorry I should have not used the word "equal" at least not in communism sense, so just distribution of resources from developed countries to poor countries. In other words, help out the poor countries. Let me explain the premises...premise 1, we want to save ourselves by save the earth through finding efficient and sustainable energy sources so that we don't deplete and pollute the earth (our home and other living things'). Premise 2, we should distribute resources to help with family planning, education, health care, etc. Family planning is to deal with the problem of overpopulation. People from poor countries tend to have more children as compared to developed country. Italy for example has the lowest birth rate in the world. The explanation for having many children is they contribute economically to the family, and since they have to deal with poverty, they don't have access to medical services the children tend to not survive. So having more children seems logical. But having more children means an increase in population. Overpopulation is very bad for the environment as the human consumption of resources increase. So when we are dealing with poor countries, we are dealing with a host of interrelated problems. Education, school education and education regarding using contraceptive methods as means for birth control. Health care will save lives-if poverty, family planning, education, and health care are dealt with, they won't need to produce many children. So if we want to save ourselves, we must also try to save others [to live for oneself is ignorance]. So premise 1 and 2 are linked.

Now premise 3 will work if premise 2 is followed. When human beings are well-off, educated (not ignorant for example recognizing how his actions affect everything around him), and such through premise 2, we will know not to mess with the environment and its animals. When human beings are not well off, we tend to mess up the environment which in turn will create more problems. Premise # 4, if we want to save ourselves by not polluting and depleting the earth of its resources, we should give/distribute resources (premise #2)-instead of greed, we want compassion.

So as you can see the 3 poisons cause a lot of human problems. Especially ignorance of/not knowing helping others is actually helping ourselves.

Notice we are not advocating change of system or government.

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I suppose the root of the problem is lack of compassion. If everyone loved each other, they'd work hard for each other's sake. How do you get people to have compassion?


Education/teaching such as what I have been explaining.


Once again greed, anger, and ignorance are the root cause of all human problems. And man cannot separate himself from his environment for his environment is not habitable, he will not survive. And in order to save himself, he must save others. Like a body, all the organs must be well and functioned together. We cannot ignore our liver if it is ill. So we cannot ignore others when they need our help.
InitialDJay
QUOTE (GentleWind @ Aug 18 2011, 01:40 PM) *
Practice giving...meaning think and do things to benefit others. Greed is just want to take and take.

Also practice meditation.

isn't that easy say than done? lol

do you think people are born inherently evil or good?
GentleWind
QUOTE (InitialDJay @ Aug 19 2011, 01:26 AM) *
isn't that easy say than done? lol

do you think people are born inherently evil or good?


True nature of sentient being is not evil or good. But on the relative level, there is evil and good.

Giving is not easy. That's why we have to practice. Since we are not used to give, it would be hard at first.
InitialDJay
QUOTE (GentleWind @ Aug 19 2011, 09:08 PM) *
True nature of sentient being is not evil or good. But on the relative level, there is evil and good.

Giving is not easy. That's why we have to practice. Since we are not used to give, it would be hard at first.

alright. gotacha
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