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WoahZtong
I guess I mean what do you think of how asians are known for animal cruelty and what can we do to stop this or change our cultures to change this?

(warning)link not for faint of heart:
http://www2.peta.org/site/PageServer?pagename=skinned_alive

Good God. I hate being part of an ethnicity known for $hit like this. Sure the West has animal cruelty problems too but not nearly as bad as China/the east.
samnang
i used to be heavily into animal rights. i was even a vegan for almost a year.

but then all of a sudden i just stopped caring. i mean i'll still give money to the humane society and stuff, but animal abuse imagery just don't faze me like it used to.
freezingpoint
QUOTE (WoahZtong @ Sep 1 2011, 08:55 PM) *
I guess I mean what do you think of how asians are known for animal cruelty and what can we do to stop this or change our cultures to change this?

(warning)link not for faint of heart:
http://www2.peta.org/site/PageServer?pagename=skinned_alive

Good God. I hate being part of an ethnicity known for $hit like this. Sure the West has animal cruelty problems too but not nearly as bad as China/the east.


the west has human cruelty problems. you know how fked up they are when they care more about the rights of cows to not suffer, while they bomb Libyans for oil?

doesn't stop them from being the superior race many of us dumb yellow colonial slaves look up to does it?
togepi
QUOTE (freezingpoint @ Sep 2 2011, 01:38 AM) *
the west has human cruelty problems. you know how fked up they are when they care more about the rights of cows to not suffer, while they bomb Libyans for oil?

doesn't stop them from being the superior race many of us dumb yellow colonial slaves look up to does it?


All nations do bad things for oil.

Why does China give weapons to Sudan in return for oil?
togepi
The only way China can stop this is through Buddhist vegetarianism.

I am vegetarian.
chiuchimu
Cruelty to animals to gain emotional excitement is wrong, but cruelty because on process is cheaper than another is a different issue.

The prime objective should be to bring healthy, low cost food and products to the consumer.

Also, people are showing their preferences by purchasing one product over another. The flow of money shows they care about fat free, cholesterol free, sugar free even gluten free! but not 'cruelty free'.



freezingpoint
QUOTE (togepi @ Sep 2 2011, 06:17 AM) *
All nations do bad things for oil.

Why does China give weapons to Sudan in return for oil?


What's wrong with selling goods for other goods?

I only see issue with actively killing people, to steal their goods. In the civilized world we call that robbery.
togepi
QUOTE (freezingpoint @ Sep 2 2011, 12:42 PM) *
What's wrong with selling goods for other goods?

I only see issue with actively killing people, to steal their goods. In the civilized world we call that robbery.


Because the Sudanese government has used Chinese weapons to create genocide in Darfur.
freezingpoint
QUOTE (togepi @ Sep 2 2011, 10:37 PM) *
Because the Sudanese government has used Chinese weapons to create genocide in Darfur.


So if someone is stabbed to death with a fruit knife, the fruit knife manufacturer is at fault, and equally guilty as someone who takes a gun and kills people in a robbery.
togepi
QUOTE (freezingpoint @ Sep 2 2011, 10:53 PM) *
So if someone is stabbed to death with a fruit knife, the fruit knife manufacturer is at fault, and equally guilty as someone who takes a gun and kills people in a robbery.


No. A more suitable analogy is selling a knife to someone who is known to murder people.

I don't know why you're taking this personally. I have said that all countries are guilty of doing these sorts of things.
mndeg
China isn't even that big of an arms dealer. Look at U.S., Canada, and a LOT of western european countries.
FutureMan
QUOTE (freezingpoint @ Sep 2 2011, 02:38 AM) *
the west has human cruelty problems. you know how fked up they are when they care more about the rights of cows to not suffer, while they bomb Libyans for oil?

doesn't stop them from being the superior race many of us dumb yellow colonial slaves look up to does it?


Man stay on topic Talktohand.gif

QUOTE (WoahZtong @ Sep 1 2011, 08:55 PM) *
I guess I mean what do you think of how asians are known for animal cruelty and what can we do to stop this or change our cultures to change this?

(warning)link not for faint of heart:
http://www2.peta.org/site/PageServer?pagename=skinned_alive

Good God. I hate being part of an ethnicity known for $hit like this. Sure the West has animal cruelty problems too but not nearly as bad as China/the east.


It's bad and cruel, but your not associated with that kind of cruelty because your Chinese or half. madcool.gif
It's the same as some Japanese fisherman exposed for the slaughter of dolphins in Taiji Japan
http://www.savejapandolphins.org/ where you can't blame the whole Japanese people.

mastaping
Theres no way im clicking on that link! I made the mistake of going to the peta website once, never again......I like blood and gore, im not gonna lie, but when i see it happen to a little helpless critter... omg.... no..
And you know what... Chinese are not the only ones who do animal cruelty! Everywhere in this world animal cruelty happens... And its just as horrible...
freezingpoint
QUOTE (togepi @ Sep 3 2011, 01:25 AM) *
No. A more suitable analogy is selling a knife to someone who is known to murder people.

I don't know why you're taking this personally. I have said that all countries are guilty of doing these sorts of things.


im not taking this personally. its another example of western hypocrisy.

the number of people killed by Sudan pales compared to the amount killed by the US. in the 1930's 7 million Americans starved to death even as barges of food were sent to the ocean to dump them in order to not deflate food prices, how fked up is that?

and you have these people talking about animal cruelty? let them fix their own human cruelty problem first!
LittleDeathAngel
Animal lovers are fu-king hypocrites.

This is especially true for female animal lovers.

I hope they all die.

Nothing pisses me off more than people who claim they love all animals and yet get repulsed and treat other animals differently that don't fit "their" definition of cute and cuddly.

Example:
Girl: I love all animals. ^^

A lizard walks by.

Girl: OMG. KILL IT. O_O

A frog hops by.

Girl: OMG. KILL IT. O_O

A bug flies by.

Girl: OMG. KILL IT. O_O

Me: Wtf??? I thought you said you love all animals? >_>

Girl: I only like the furry, cute ones. The other ones are ewww and nasty.

Me: ........

Me: They are still animals.

Girl: Not to me. o_o

Me: ........

Me: Go die plz. >_>
freezingpoint
QUOTE (LittleDeathAngel @ Sep 3 2011, 04:02 PM) *
Animal lovers are fu-king hypocrites.

This is especially true for female animal lovers.

I hope they all die.

Nothing pisses me off more than people who claim they love all animals and yet get repulsed and treat other animals differently that don't fit "their" definition of cute and cuddly.

Example:
Girl: I love all animals. ^^

A lizard walks by.

Girl: OMG. KILL IT. O_O

A frog hops by.

Girl: OMG. KILL IT. O_O

A bug flies by.

Girl: OMG. KILL IT. O_O

Me: Wtf??? I thought you said you love all animals? >_>

Girl: I only like the furry, cute ones. The other ones are ewww and nasty.

Me: ........

Me: They are still animals.

Girl: Not to me. o_o

Me: ........

Me: Go die plz. >_>


this was about year ago.

2 white female grad students, probably in humanities or social sciences, were talking about how cruel animal cruelty was especially the fate of cows in slaughterhouses. this was as they were eating a burger in the school food lounge.

the news came up on Israeli airstrikes hitting a hospital in Gaza killing innocent doctors and patients.

they looked up at the TV. looked back at each other.

"hey, i think slaughterhouses are really inhumane!"
chiuchimu
QUOTE (freezingpoint @ Sep 3 2011, 05:33 PM) *
this was about year ago.

2 white female grad students, probably in humanities or social sciences, were talking about how cruel animal cruelty was especially the fate of cows in slaughterhouses. this was as they were eating a burger in the school food lounge.

the news came up on Israeli airstrikes hitting a hospital in Gaza killing innocent doctors and patients.

they looked up at the TV. looked back at each other.

"hey, i think slaughterhouses are really inhumane!"

embarassedlaugh.gif

typical western logic.

Metropolitan
QUOTE (togepi @ Sep 2 2011, 06:17 AM) *
All nations do bad things for oil.

Why does China give weapons to Sudan in return for oil?


First guns, than a liquor store, and overpriced goods at a shabby convenient store. Sounds like Korean America Part 2
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