Just the questions, I remember I read it somewhere it said Yunnan was Bai Yue and that Laos is from Yunnan. I wonder if this is true? since I have not yet done any research on Laos, if you Laotian has any history related to Bai Yue or Yunnan?

Again, this is only questions.

Sichuan to Yunnan were territories ruled by the Yi people (the largest Tibeto speaking people in China).
I would say, the Laotian is closely related to the Dai (culturally).

hmm, interesting. I thought there would be connection between Laos and Viet. However it seems Laos relate more to Thai? that is correct?

you cant group all Thai ppl together, in Thailand the Thai are seperated into 2 main groups, the Siamese and the Tai/Lao ethnic ppl.

Siamese are closely related to the Khmer/Mon ppl who mixed with the Tai/Lao ppl who migrated down south.

The Lao/Tai ppl originated from Southern Yunan province in the regions of Sipsongpanna, and the upper reaches of Red and Black river.

the Lao/Tai ancestors are said to be the Bai Yue and the Zhouang, just as the Viet ancestors are the Zhouang if im not mistaken.

I actually heard about Laos relate to Bach Viet too, but can you actually give me some sources about this relation with bach Viet and Zhouang.

This is the map of where the ancient Viet lived.

http://depts.washington.edu/chinaciv/1xarzhou.htm

You just can't group Tai and Lao together. Tai is Tai. Lao is mixed people of Khmer, Lawa and Tai.

You can say that people of Thailand and Lao have Tai ancestors.

Dont be confused with that Nokhmen. Tai is lao, lao is tai. You're thinking of siamese of thailand who is mix.

From your logic, Englishmen is American and American is Englishmen.

Englishmen are American. Englishmen were known as pilgrims who left Great Britain because of religious reasons. So i stand corrected.

Genetic Study showed that Siamese ppl came from India and are of Indian DNA structure, just as their Khmer and Mon relatives.

The Lao/Tai ppl came from the Yangtze River Valley regions, then gradually migrated into the upper reaches of the black and red rivers in Nothern Vietnam.

at one point, they had conquered Nothern Vietnam Tokin Region, before they were pushed back towards Nothern Vietnam, so the relationship btw Viet and Lao/Tai have been close for many centuries before the Lao/Tai ppl migrated into Central Thailand. This is when Siamese were Pure Khmer/Mon Stock before the Tai migrated down and mixed with them.

Let everybody see your source, otherwise you have cheap lips like buk Khmerboi.

I don't think so. You said Tai is Lao, Lao is Tai. That means they all are identical or same people. But, do you think Englishmen and American are same people? You logic is just flaw.

Tai is Tai.
Lao is Lao, Lao is Lawa+Khmer+Tai

Dude you dont get it? Americans were English ppl who left England for religious freedom and came to america and founded what is today know as the United State (american). They were call Pilgrim people. You're logic is flaw. English is American, American is English. American is a nationality for the people who lives in the United States like what Thai, which is a nationality for people who lives in the realm of thailand. English/British people were the founder of America. Like i said, Tai is lao and lao is tai.

Dude you dont get it? Americans were English ppl who left England for religious freedom and came to america and founded what is today know as the United State (american). They were call Pilgrim people. You're logic is flaw. English is American, American is English. American is a nationality for the people who lives in the United States like what Thai, which is a nationality for people who lives in the realm of thailand. English/British people were the founder of America. Like i said, Tai is lao and lao is tai.

I wouldn't bothered with this NoKhamen person since he's a Thai nationalist who really hates Vietnamese like most Thai member's here. I've been irritant after how much hate they have by some of these pseudo Thai member's for the last couple of mouth now.

Lao is just nationality. By your logic Tai is Lao and Lao is Tai, It's same as English is American and American is English. LOL

It's obvious that mixed people are not same as their ancestors. Lao has Tai, Lawa, Khmer, Khmu ancestors, Lao are mixed people. Lao has their own race/blood/culture not same as the Tai. Lao is not Tai. Lao just have Tai ancestor. Lao is Lao.

So true. Thai nationalist are narrowed minded and blinded with all the lies they been taught through their education system.

So true. Thai nationalist are narrowed minded and blinded with all the lies they been taught through their education system.

Since when I said I hate Vietnamese? Don't act like these Laokhmer trolls who always lie all the time.

Vietnam is the father of the father of Lao.

You have other trolling account. Don't act so innocent now since I already told you that I was keeping track on most of you Thai trolls for the last couple of mouth now.

I'm sure you guys troll in Chinese Chat,Korean and Japanese Chat just to make Thai look's good. Also another thing. It bring to my attention that some of you Thai nationalist even mimic, claiming to be either Lao or Thai member along the process. Man fool.... you don't have to lie o.k?

LOL, you are real dumb. Can't you see my fob english? LOL How can I pretend to have such many accounts? retard much?

Only troll that mimic to be Thai is NoJek, the Chinese hater. He is Lao/khmer but love to tell everyone that he is Thai. You think you are clever why can't you figure out that NoJek is Siam4ever, Lander and many more... LOL

Personally if you are Vietnamese like you said and have problem with me. Go to Thai chat and start trolling there.

Why should I troll in Thai chat or anyone else chat room like you Thai trolls would do? I am not a troll dude.

Because you are lame and liar. It's troll behavior.

How am I lying?

You accused me that I hate Vietnamese.

Not only you are liar but have short memory. LOL

I never accused you. I only stated the truth about you. Again this is my third time repeating myself just to remind you that I've been watching you for the last couple of mouth trolling on everyone chat room. At least now we know who is behind all of this problems in Asiafinest.

Don't lie. I won't tolerate any liars. If you have any evidence just prove to everybody here otherwise just dismiss, Mr. Newbie.

I am not lying. You can asked anyone if you don't believe me. We been watching you and other Thai members here trolling everyone else chat room.

Evidence please, or just tell everyone here what accounts I have. LOL I sense you are a Lao disguise to be Viet.

you have notice all the Thai trolls which tell everyone that Thai ppl are insecure about themselves

Anyway, i just like to stick to the topic myself,

This DNA genetics Map show that Lao Viet come from the "F" group that left central Asia, or Mongaloid,

Siamese ppl are a part of the "M" that came out of India, which would make them Austraic, just as the Khmer and Mon ppl

Lao ppl is the ethnicty of the majority of Laos, the Lao ppl migrated from the Region now called Dien Bien Phu, and the upper Red and Black river tributarys, so the ancestors of the Lao live along side the Viet ancestors for over 1500 years at least. being that they have live along side each other for so long, its most likely they may of had some of the same ancient ancestors.

as was stated, Even the founder of modern Thailand, Uthong of Ayutthya claimed he was the same lineage and bloodline of the Lao King who founded Lanxang.

The Tai/Lao migrated south and conquered the Siamese ppl in central Thailand, just as the English who conquered the native americans, the original Siamese who made up the majority of ppl of Ayutthya were Khmer/Mon ppl, the Siamese ancestors are the ppl from India, just as the Khmer and Mon.

Even though the majority of Thai ppl were Khmer/Mon, since the ruling class were Lao/Tai ppl, the general notion was that Thailand is Lao/Tai, even though the great majority of Thais were of Khmer/Mon lineage.

I agree, the General notion is that Americans were English settlers, which shaped and formed what is America Today, being so, Americans are most asociated with the English. All the original settlements in America were English colonies, the language is English, most towns and names of Americans are of English content.

I've been watching their move for the last couple of mouth. Even that Nojek Thai troll is trolling in Viet Chat along with his buddy. And when it comes to doing business partner with Vietnam or competition in the business mainstream. The Thai always back out and give up or find other things to complain just so they wouldn't look embarrass or bad among the business marketing and other factor.

if only i could provide (record) the video cassette i have about the Yue people, but too sad, i don't know how to record video cassette.

Lame Lao pretends to be a viet. LOL

I guess you jusr replied to your another accout MeoMeo. LOL Both of you love to talk about R sound, and same like buk Savan. Gee... welcome back!

I've doing some research and it is show that Lao relate to either Dai/Tai/Ailao. It somewhat confuse because there are Dai and Tai and AiLao. While some said Ailao is Tai ancestor, some said Tai is cluster of Dai. The Dai is however descendant of Yue. The relationship from Tai and Yue seem complicate. It seems Tai is not direct descendant of Yue but rather through another ethnic group, the Dai.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lao_people




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dai_people

Viet and Lao are not the same, Vietnamese have the high cheek bone that is common while the Lao ppl do not. There are hundreds of thousands of Ethnic Lao cousins in Vietnam, the live along the mountainous region of the Red and Black river, we call them the Tai dam and Tai Dang, i dont believe they have any relationship with being ethnic vietnamese or considered any part of the Bach Viet Tribes your talking about. before you look at the Lao ppl in Laos, you must first find the origins of these Tai groups in Vietnam called the black Tai and the Red Tai

just dont confuse Tai with Thai, NOthern Thai are Tai, Isaan are Tai, but Thai Siamese from Central Thailand are Khmuic ppl.

for some reason, the Siamese tried to take the identity of the Tai ppl but we all know they are descendents of the Khmer/Mon ppl.

Lao PDR is a hybrid.

They do not deserve the name of the Lao

Laos is a minority in this country.

THAI - Most of the population is Tai


LAO

There are around 3.6 million of 6 million is Laotians in Laos.

but in Laotians 3.6 million have Vietnam has more than half.

LAOPDR - Most of the population is vietnam and Hmong.

the remainder are largely hill tribe people.

What about those wiki sources I posted? do you have any more reliable source link to Tai/Dai Lao?

Here is the prove. Dai/Lue ethnic lady from Sipsongpanna singing to Pi-nong Lao/Tai and she wish a best for our people to reunite once again. You see our language and heritage are very close similar to these people from China and she consider us as the closer cousin from SEA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EvLBLo_S8Q...3B1667D611211F6




Here is another song Lao song "Dok Champa" She is saying that we should accept our pi-nong Tai/Lao as a true family.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjs1MJgI1I0


Also their are some stories floating around the the Lao people came from the Liao Dynasty in North Eastern China and migrated into SEA. Also the reason why Taiwanese native seem to live and speak similar to the Lao people with an accent and similar language.

i don't thinkl that native taiwanese sound like lao, aren't taiwanese tribes part of the austroneasian people

There is a saying that it all started from the Liao Dynasty who then migrated out towards Korea then, to Japan and all the way down southward towards Taiwan. Then running along the Eastern coast of China and into Vietnam and the rest of South East Asia. Which is why we are called Lao because we were the Ai LaoShan people from North Eastern China.

Also the reason why we are still considered by the Burmese as Shan or Ai LaoShan by the native people because we live among the mountain. Also the Khmer people also used to refered to us as Shan in khmer language who were known to live among the mountain as well.

You can say that we used to look like the Hmong/Mien along time ago before heavenly mix with other ethnic along the way. Also Lao mean elder,wise,ancient,and master in the old ancient meaning.

Also them Taiwanese native ethnic do seem to have similar housing and living style as the Lao/Tai people if you looked into their history. There is a chance that they were also mix with the Liao or Dao people at the time. Dao ethnic people are an extinct ethnic during the Liao Dynasty who enjoy fishing and farming along China major rivers and channels.

The laotian language sounds really beautiful.How come theres no laotian girl thread?Because I found some laotian girl videos on youtube.And girls in those videos are smoking hot.

Dumbass, the Khamuic people is LAO. Millions of Khmu live in Laos and they assimilated to be one Lao. LOL

Siamese are ancient Tai/Thai and ancient Mon. Lao is ancient Khmer + Ancient Lawa + Khmu. Lao is very far to be Tai. Lao just speak a language in Tai-Kadai family, Lao is NOT Tai, never call themselves Tai, and nobody call you Tai. Every body including you call you LAO. LMAO!!! I don't know why you obsess with the word Tai that bad.

I wonder when Lao people created their kingdom? Khmer empire used to cover the whole Lao and Thailand.
Thai people used to be called Siam if I'm not wrong

Don't try to associate Viet with Lao, everyone in the world know Lao is UGLY.


Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isan

The main language is Isan, which is a dialect of the Lao language.

Isan's culture is predominantly Lao, and has much in common with that of the neighbouring country of Laos. This affinity is shown in the region's cuisine, dress, temple architecture, festivals and arts.

The cultural separation from Central Thailand, combined with the region's poverty and the typically dark skin of its people, has encouraged a considerable amount of discrimination against the people of Isan from non-ethnic Thais of Chinese descent.[citation needed] Even though many Isan people now work in the cities rather than in the fields, many hold lower-status jobs such as construction workers, stall vendors and tuk-tuk taxi drivers, and discriminatory attitudes have been known to persist with many Thai-Chinese inhabitants.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isan


Source: http://www.bangkokguestfriendlyhotels.com/...orts-oh-my.html

I get asked all sorts of questions about Bangkok's bar girls, freelancers and escorts through emails so I decided it's about time I focus on this subject on this hub. I'll be working on one about lady boys (Thai transvestites) or kathoeys soon since that in itself is one big subject alone.

The majority of the Thai ladies working in the sex industry come from the northeast province of Isan. It's a very poor area where many of the ladies come from farming villages. They leave with what little they have and head towards the Big Mango and the allure of making more money than their mother or father could make in years or a lifetime. It is a sacrifice you have to admire and respect since they do send money back home and often taking care of those not only in their immediate family but for those in their village.

You can tell an Isan girl from other Thai ladies from different regions because Isan girls are usually shorter with darker skin, higher cheek bones and flat nose features. While ladies from Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai and within Bangkok are taller with fairer skin and features similar to the Chinese.

Source: http://www.bangkokguestfriendlyhotels.com/...orts-oh-my.html

Actually english people are mixed lol there is no such thing as an english race!!!