Post/colonial Discourses on the Cambodian Court Dance
http://kyoto-seas.org/2011/02/southeast-as...es-vol-42-no-4/

You can also download from here
http://www.mediafire.com/?9c1loxpa0rm0a7m

This is a great evidence from a third party research (Japanese) on Khmer dance. It indicates that Cambodian court dance is actually from Siamese court dance, not Angkorean *tradition*.


Similar topic in Thai chat: The truth about Cambodian court dance. (Thai/Siamese influenced dance)

good job

Goes to show.. You don't have any good reason to hate Thai people.

All your hate comes from the french making up lies about you, your country and your history. Don't believe us? go and do some research and you will come across the same conclusion

really hope KhmerBoi read and learn the article...

Thank you once again Nokhmen...

I think most khmer already know this , if we kept the Angkorian dance the girls chest would be exposed

so long you siamese acknowledge your khmer influence on your culture, we can agree to agree any thai influence in our culture....

This is always been the truth. You guys pay too much attention to nationalists and read too much youtube comments. Me and a few other Cambodians (like Noyume) do acknowledge there is some Siamese influence in our culture. I mean anyone with logic can figure it out. Anyone that's even read any history books publish by Westerners, even Western books on Cambodian dance always have a passage about the Siamese influence during King Ang Duong era. So it's kinda insulting you guys are rubbing it in our face here. I've never really denied this part. You could have PM'ed KhmerBoi with the link.

Do apologize...Mushrooms

NOt to you KhmerBoi...

As long as our Khmer dance and Khmer culture isn't as tacky and all over the place as Thai culture and Thai dance I'm fine with that

shut up already. Everybody knows Khmer art and culture is just a cheap knockoff of Siamese/Thai version. The Khmer replica try so hard, boasting its cheap products but it won't work because you people don't have that gift, you are slave-labor descents, you don't know anything about arts. Look at your knockoff here... LMAO!!!

Khmer

http://www.thongthailand.com/private_folde...thai/kmerr5.jpg

Siamese/Thai




Bangkok Palace


Khmer palace, cheap knockoff



and if your arts happen to look exactly identical with ours Siamese/Thai in the future. You must know that it must be the works from your Khmer students who studied arts and culture in Thailand universities.

you are such dumbass and ignorant.

Thai and Siamese people are the same people like Khmer. Also most temple and arts are copied from the Khmer.

LOL, who will believe you, the Lao oversea who have no knowledge about Thailand/Laos/Cambodia. The things you know the most is black rap music. I guess.... LMAO!!!

I know a lot more then you do because I'm not a closed minded person. I think his Majesty Law had prevent you from thinking on you're own with no freedom of you're own opinion. Which is why you seem to be a closed minded person like most Thai. I've notice this when every time when a Thai national comes to the state they have a different opinion that you wouldn't imagine they would speak out of.

Your bubbling doesn't prove anything. You still can't speak Lao, and don't know Lao, let alone Thai and Khmer. get the hell over it, homeboy LMAO!!!

My genetic DNA says that I am still Lao and Asian. So get over it.

Then, can I call you nigga?

Only if I was a Siamese.

Ok, I will call you LAO.

You can call me a N*gga Siamese for all I care.

So, Thais cant call you LAO, but Khmer and others can call you LAO. ???

double-standard!

At least we are true to our names. Unlike the Thai who sometime called themselves Siamese or Chinese most of the time Also in many other cases Thai sometime claim themselves Lao as well. But we never called our self in many faces like you Thai.

If we can't call you Lao, what should we call you? Tai/Thai? LMAO!!!

ps, If a Thai call himself, Lao or Chinese. Then he must be full descent of Lao or Chinese, and he has Thai nationality. It's not rocket science. You are a bit dumbass.

I thought Thai were dumb anyways. So their is no point for talking smart here with them.

Like how just about EVERY Khmer (bar 5 khmers so far I've seen. You included) keep rubbing it in our faces that Thai stole Khmer culture, art, martial arts, land etc etc etc etc?

What is the point in showing it privately when the others are still ignorant? Now that this is solid evidence that what Khmers have been taught by their parents and elders (that the dance was stolen by Siamese) is a fabrication, now would all the other stories about Siam stealing everything Khmer not just be another fabrication? The road to true knowledge must begin somewhere.

Sadly I highly doubt the ignorant ones will even see this as a way for them to begin their own research into Khmer history or SEA history. But on the basis that it may lead to even just 1 more Khmer finding out about the truth and through him/her the truth is told to other khmers. Perhaps one day there will be true peace between our peoples.

A mighter river begins from a single drop of water.

Everything was a fabrication by the french to divide SEA. They did a pretty damn good job of it too.

Siamese are good lair. Not only you accused and blame Laos,Cambodia,Vietnam,Burma,Malaysia,Singapore for most of Thailand own internal issue. You lie to the world about you're neighbors History,Culture and people for the last two decade. Look at some of you Thai who claim our accent are Thai and our culture and language are Thai people. You people are sick and mindless. Which is why I have an issue to why Thailand are oppressing its neighbors for this reason.

The most dumbest comment I've ever seen. You Liao can add China,Japan,Indonesia,Philipines,USA,India,... all over the world.. LOL

Your accent is Thai? roflmao which idiot said that? it obvious Lao accent is not Thai lol

however! Lao comes from Tai people, The accent is like Tai people the culture is like Tai people.

Lao comes from Tai not Tai comes form Lao. If you thought Tai comes form Lao then your just an idiot tbh Lao is a branch of the Tai family. The world knows this. Only you lao people have some illusion about Lao greatness.

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Oh god! Savun, if you are in Cambodia you probably in jail.. lucky you hah~ ^^

Yes, You are right I known this.. i read some article of this Japanese.. Appreciated his job.. But still.. not all seem make sense to me if he keep doing more research in his assignment... ^^

AGAIN!!!! and I again!

I am so sorry for the misunderstanding about these two nation Cambodian and Thai..The pollution environment surely came from the political and nationalism concept. I would say I know exactly what is Khmer, Indian neither Siam's culture.. also it need to refer or discussion as well.. Who is Indian what Indian like, Khmer what Khmer like or Siam or what Siam like neither Thai.
I would suggest all Cambodian read this book; then we will feel more and more open to These Thai people... Again, I am sure for those some Thai who is really nationalism, might not sugessted because I am sure it might hurting you so bad.. while you though Khmer is slave.. or Khmer have no civilization but for beside that other Thai will increased their better understanding among the two people and peace will come!! ^^

I got these book from my dadii.. he have met the editor (American).. and he told my father very interesting story about his researching work in Thailand and Cambodia and elswhere...,

This book is very interesting after you have read them.., you will probably understandable of the shearing of dance between Cambodian and Thailand or might be Indian ^^.


Cambodian Dancer Cover by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr


Cambodian Dancer-inside by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr


Writer Note by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr


Cambodian Dancer preface by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr


NKFC by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr

Other Suggested Books:

Earth in Flower by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr


Daughters of Angkor by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr


The Shadow of Angkor by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr


Water and Light by KhmerBoiken, on Flickr

For Every Khmer you can find it in Monument Bookstore..

I am so proud to be born as KHMER!!! ^_^

The Japanese work is great, not only it tells the truth that Khmer classical dance is Siamese. But also indicate that (Siamized) Khmer dance is nothing to do with Angkorian tradition. That's why the French desperately tried so hard to LINK your Khmer dance to be (fake) Angkor dance. The french also manipualte Khmer chronicles to LINK the Khmer to Angkor Varman. LOL This is the French work, making of fake Khmer history and Khmer identity. Khmer is just not Khom Angkorian varman.

YES GOOD JOB

That's the story before the French came and made it a complely new history

That is because those pictures are not royal. They work at a restaurant and not supported by royal patronage that has millions of dollars to spend.

Comparing cheap restaurant Khmer dancers to Thai dancers supported by the Queen of Thailand...hmm, very logical.

I can pull out pics of Thai dancers at the Erawan shrine too and show you how cheap and sleazy Thai classical dance can look. Do you want to see?

Yes, Thai people like to do this kind of comparison.. I even don't want to mention about it...

There is a person directly involved with all the new productions supported by Queen Sirikit. This person mentioned going to the National Museum in Phnom Penh to look at the old costumes and said they are beautiful. This was to see what type of embroidery was used in those time and to help revive the fine techniques that was reminiscent of that time. The problem was that Thai embroidery was becoming too big and gaudy, this person did not like it.


Funny how I notice some of the designs used by old Cambodian dancers show up in the new production supported by the Queen of Thailand.... Compare the "hoi na" or whatever you want to call it of the old style and new style. And compare to Cambodian version in teh 1930s. The new Thai style looks a lot like Cambodian style in the 1930s. So what do you say to that?



And then there's the common costume that I'm sure you guys know looks like with big thick embroidery that, lots of fake gem stones, etc. Not going to bother posting it. Good thing that Queen Sirikit support this project to refine Thai classical costumes again. It's beautiful now.

I am not saying Cambodians didn't borrow any ideas from Thai. Sure, there is some I still see going on today that I believe didn't existed even in the early 1900s. For example, Moni Mekhala in Cambodian version only wore short sleeve shirt in old style, now she is dressed with long sleeve shirt like Thai style in some versions. I notice this because I look at a lot of old pictures and Moni Mekhala in Cambodia never wore long sleeve shirt, not even in 1960s or 70s. This only happen recently in the last decade or so.


P.S. I'm only replying to this because this is my interests and I like to share anything I can about it. I don't really like your condescending attitude.

SASAGAWA Hideo- http://jp.linkedin.com/pub/hideo-sasagawa/26/502/55 I think he might be in Cambodia right now joining Our City Festival in Phnom Penh, and I will also join the segment of the Living of Giant performance which very close to my house in Takhmoa town which I guess he will joint too.

Kent Davison – Editor of Cambodian Dancers Book http://jp.linkedin.com/pub/hideo-sasagawa/26/502/55
Daughter of Angkor Wat’s Editor [Daughter of Angkor Wat begins unlocking their secrets with surprising theories, hundreds of original photos and insights from leading experts including: Paul Cravath, Kent Davis, Madeleine Giteau, George Groslier, Trudy Jacobsen, Julie Mehta, Peter Sharrock, Krishna Srivastava…. And other enlighted observers]
Paul Cravath- Writer of Earth in Flower have also received Kiriyama Prize Notable Book
Nautilus Silver Award as well.
Here Paul’s professional rate link: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=615235
And here the Earth in Flower website: www.earthinflower.com

And other books that I provided are written by International scholars not only France.

In Cambodian dancers Book’s edited by Kent Davison is also included a very important review by Henri Parmentier with very professionally none fiction, and politically influence.

O' well, it's you KhmerBoy, who ravishingly troll all Year Round with such pathetic yet livid approach. Would that make Cambodia prosperous by forming excusable statements, especially ones pertain to the THAI?

A Book by Westerner? Cool, should we all kudo to them Imperialistic Descendants just because they praised your Long-Lost Thai-like Classical Dance? Since when did these writers come into play? Since they enslaved your Great Great GrandPa? or Right before the French left (you guys Nothing but issues)? I'm not here inciting nobody, just not so content with the way certain Cambodian being hostile toward Thai after learning the fact their Historical Art of Dancing is derived from the THAI ROYAL'S Majestic Classical Steps.

My comment was against the rude khmer woman, NagaSnake. I am not like other Thai members who are polite and calm. It just can't help that most of Khmer are like her. She is very rude, uneducated, this account was created for all rude Khmers/cambodians like her. For khmer arts, I dont' really think Thais care or interested in Cambodian art, in real life, When I saw your Khmer palace, Khmer dance, the first impression was 'they are very similar with Thai's', no judging. That's all.

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Jek don't count as Thai, stop speaking on behalf of Thai, Pervert Jek dude.

I understand what you are trying to say. Thai/Siamese culture like classical dance have been changing from the past that's because it's *culture*. Culture is what today people are practicing, not the dead one. But no matter how Siamese dance changed, Khmer classical dance still be Thai/Siamese dance. Khmer got this dance from Siam, Khmer didn't created/developed the dance. Khmer got the whole troupe of Thai/Siamese dancers, including teachers. It's the French who made *Siamized* Khmer dance to be *khmer* by eliminated all Siamese/Thai elements in Khmer dance, even your Khmer ancestors who were the dancers disagreed with the French. Why? Because your ancestors were not brainwashed by the French, they knew that the dance was actually THai/Siamese dance. For what reason, that the French tried so hard to do that? the answer is to link/connect *Siamized* Khmer dance to Angkorean tradition. And they were failed to do so. What they got was Siamese dance in Paris expo, not the Angkorian tradion dance. This is the point I love to share to everybody here. It must be very very hard for Khmers to digest it. Because Khmer/Cambodia were the work of the French scholars for a hundred years. That's why many Khmers out there are rudely claim Thai/Siamese culture as Khmer origin, by neglect all other non-Ankorean elements in Thai/Siamese culture. By taking your own Khmer medicine, May I say that your post-Ankorian khmer cultuer was nothing but Siamese/Thai origin.

Many Cambodian members are alos jek.

and we Thais don't count you idiot, half Lao half khmer racist. LOL

First, I just want to remain you I came here on the 30th July 2011. According to your sentence here.. I think you have nothing mention about what is inside these book which I think it is very important.. Sure I have rise the name of those Scholars which most of them are western but not all. I just hope you guy understand them personally such as Profs. Paul that i also provided the link of professional rate as well. I think professionally.. expert doesn't care much about their nationality but their work.

I understand France just enough as we experience how they treat us.. bad and good... don't trying to show you are smarter then us, and we are fool... we educated enough to know how you guy though too. Naturally, it would be funny if Khmer satisfy how Thai treat Cambodia in the history (written by Cambodian and international scholars if not count France ^^).

Sorry I don't have that much time to discuss on this issue, my project is quite time consuming...anyhow please watch the clip for it compared our past to present Siamese/Thai Khon...Pls be aware of the different frame rate per sec. from the old footages which coz some jerky and rapid movement...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa3-b_LPpzA...feature=related

here is Royal Khon of Thailand 1930s...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B52bOvGUr-s...feature=related

talk to you later...

Yes, there is a problem with many Cambodians being so nationalistic that they do not want to acknowledge any Siamese influence in Cambodian culture. Cambodian culture is not a "pure" culture and this is also true for any culture around the world. This strong hatred and prejudiced against Thais is not totally the fault of the French. Even without the French, Cambodians do not like Siamese because we of the conflicts in the past. Some examples is in the story of Preah Ko Preah Keo; destroying/raiding Longvek and annexation of Cambodia...

The cultural relationship between Cambodian and Siamese culture is sort of like Chinese and Japanese culture, or French and Italian culture (e.g. ballet, architecture, classical arts, etc). In the West, we think of bonsai as a Japanese artform and rarely consider it's origin in Chinese penjing. In European ballet, they all know it's influence from Italy, but Italians don't make a big ruckus over the British, Russian, French, Austrian, etc practicing it. Not to mention, those countries also have made it a little different from teh Italian version (and the current Cambodian classical dance is made a little different from Thai classical dance).

BUT, the relationship between Siamese and Cambodian is a tiny bit more complicated than those countries. I personally think influence went back and forth from Angkor to Sukhothai and early-mid Ayuthaya then back to Cambodia. When either side generally thinks it only went one way. I believe Siamese dance is originally based on Cambodian dance (and who is to say it is exactly like the bas-relief apasara poses or even if apsaras represents real dancers during that time). I think it was eventually Siamized in the Ayuthaya period: Ayuthayans took Cambodian dancers in. And Siamese added influence from Malay culture to it and made it really nice. This really transformed style came to influence Cambodia. Anyways...my point is, Thais really need to stop patronizing and saying "Cambodian copy Siamese, stop claiming it's your culture", because without Cambodian dance from Angkor period, maybe Siamese dance might not have been really different (and probably more simple like your relatives up north). Don't get me wrong though, I don't deny that there are Cambodians that patronize or speak condescendingly of Thais also...

Some Thai trolls try to deny Cambodian culture and think, "This is Siamese influence, I hate Cambodians so much, I just hate Cambodians." Not all Thais are like this, but I see this on Youtube also, they're down voting Cambodian videos even though the video is not insulting them and then leave negative comments, it's baiting the Cambodian trolls. There is a two way-street here and some of you Thais are not really helping the situation either. I think there are better ways to educate people than insult them or humiliate them by playing a game of antagonizing each other. Patronizing doesn't work!

I think some of you Thais need to let it go, get over it. Current Cambodian dance has change and drifted from Siamese influence in the 1800s. They are not identical anymore. Whether Cambodian acknowledge any Siamese influence in their culture is up to them, should it really bother you that much? You are feeding teh trolls if you acknowledge it. And if they are stubborn enough to research the truth (this dissertation's link is found on Wikipedia), you should know that opposite views are being published in academic journals and highly respected books and I hope that keeps you happy. When you confront this problem here, it just creates more tension to the Thai-Cambodian relationship and I don't want to see these two country go to war (look at what is going on with Korea and Japan fighting over Dokdo and then turning to cultural relations to fuel it's fire). I see this on Youtube, it's a never ending cycle of flaming each other. I wish it would stop.


You have to give Cambodian culture/dance time to develop it's more unique flair (Cambodia was a poor kingdom and lost a lot of culture due to Vietnamese domination during Queen Ang Mei, that is why King Ang Duong accept the Siamese dancers because it's the closest thing to Cambodian, not to mention it has an indirect link to Angkor after Ayuthaya took the Angkor dancers). Stop jumping on Cambodian culture and give it time to progress away from Siamese influence and innovate on it's own. It's just unfortunate that it is caught in between a time of heightened nationalism in this and the last century. I'm sure you would say there is a time when Siamese had culture very close to Angkorian (when they took Angkorian dancers).

Keep in mind, all this labeling is nationalism at it's finest. Lanna dance look nothing like Siamese (Central Thai) and Cambodian (central) dance. Siamese and Cambodian were very culturally linked to each other. The only reason why we're making a big deal of it today is because we are two nations that use culture as a means for nationalism.

We need to drop the overt nationalism. It isn't healthy for the relationship of Cambodia and Thailand and not to mention, Laos. Some jabs here and there is fine, ok. But take a cue from Western Europe or Nordic and lose the zealous nationalism...


P.S.: excuse my grammar, I know I write like a retarded dyslexic.

Yes I am aware of the nature of old footages.

But the point of my post was that the pattern on the Hoi Na in new costumes looks a lot like the one used in Cambodian in the 1930s. And I don't see this type of design in old Thai pictures (those black and white footage is hard to tell, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see hoi na that looks the same like the 1930s picture of Cambodian version).

This was in response to NoKmen saying that how Cambodians are studying in Thailand and saying how they might copy Thai stuff. My response is basically saying, maybe you might want to look at what some Thai person did by going to Cambodian and looking at the style of Cambodian dance from early 1900s...

I'm suspecting the the Hoi Na in the new productions supported by the Queen is maybe garnering some ideas from old Cambodian pictures/costumes. Just speculation, that's all, I could be wrong and maybe there is Thai hoi na that looks exactly the same also existed in Thailand during that time or before 1930s, but I never seen any look like that.

first of all...I never have any intension to bring down the Khmer's pride, still I believe Angkor is of Khmer lagacy...

That's why I never bring up the "Indravaraman" issue nor what that chinese envoy said about the skin complexion of Angkorian King compare to regular population...also why they painted the royal dancer's faces with white color...

Anyhow...I just see the need to protect our reputation from those ignorant nationalist who accused us as thieves and without any culture of our own...

Still...I always give credit where credit's due...

Like I told you that those costume you see in Ongbak2-3 that's a heavy Khmer influence(I saw beyond 90percent Khmer arts from Angkor basrelieves in those costumes) or the KhmerBoi's clip of Apsara dancer with costume imitated those Angkor bas relieves' Apsara, I also said that's of Khmer art.

While these Khon and royal daces you've seen today is beyond 90 percent in similarities to our...BUT..."most" Cambodian and Laos never give credit to Siamese/Thai... the best they said were we preserved the Angkorian tradition for them, which are false...Coz the elements from Mon/Khmer/Tai/Malay even Chinese of Sri Ayuttaya,Sri Thumarat,Sukhothai& etc. were merged and blended for centuries to became this new innovations.

I believe you do know that during the early and middle Ayuttaya period they called the Khon's mask as "Nar Khon" translated as the " face mask" becoz it's didn't cover the whole head...

Nar = face

Khon = the royal LaKhorn ( dirived from Lekorn/Ligor of Srivijai/Sri Thumarat/Tarmarlinga) the term ลิเก...ละคร..โขน.. believe to came from the same root of Ligor of Srivijai...

While in the late Ayuttaya period to early Rattanakosin they use the term "Hua Khon" instead of "Nar Khon"... becoz the innovation of the whole head mask was created insead of just the face.

Hua = head

Khon = the royal Lakorn

Now on the over all costume including those you called "HoiNa" ( which sound very Siamese/Thai word Hoi (ห้อย)= hang, Na/Nar (หน้า)=front or face...the whole word translated as Hang in the Front) is the Siamese design... as you could see in this clip they came in variety of paterns...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvsWGWVo5ww...feature=related

So in my opinion...Since Angkor's arts and architecture is already of Khmer legacy...I ask please kindly don't take this Siamese lagacy away from us...

That's sad for the story why Khmer hate Siamese/Thai. Khmers have the story to tell their kids the reason to hate us. While in Thailand we don't have those kind of stories. Khmer story of Preah Ko Preah Keo just blame on others (Siamese) not on Khmer themselves, for the sake that Khmer have been through their dark age. It's really disappointed to know. Destroying Longvek, by our Siamese/Thai view, it's the retaliation against Khmer king who waged the war with us in behind, while Siamese had a war with Burmese. This is also only one story concerning about Cambodia/Khmer in our Thai history books. This is explain why Thai people and their kids today don't have any clue why Khmer hate them so much. We don't understand why Khmer easily burnt our Thai embassy in Phnom Penh. It's very surprised everyone. Furthermore in the past time of Ayutthaya, Siamese also help Khmer a lot, Khmer kings always seek refuges to Siamese kings, and asked for Siamese armies to help them gain power back from Cambodian civil wars or from Viet invasion. And you know what? These are not in our Thai history books, and maybe not in Cambodian books too. We help you Khmer all time of history, even today, help Cambodia restore their nation, help Cambodia to be a memeber of Asean, help building infrastructure in Cambodia for free. But Khmer still hate Thai, and some khmer call us thieves.


SE Asian culture are based on Indian culture. Many countries, Burma, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia, have their culture roots from India. India and China are cradle of cultures. SEA kingdoms in the past had evolved their culture and also influenced one another. Angkor culture also had been influenced by Cham culture, Mon Dvavrati of Siam or even Javanese culture, very far from Indonesia. Siamese also had their own culture based on Ancient Indian via Sri Dhamaraja, Ancient Mon Dvarati, Ancient Tai Chiangsaen, and later got Angkor elements. Siamese culture doesn't purely based on Angkor culture alone. That's why I don't think Siamese dance is based on Cambodian dance like you said.Ancient Indian dance, heavily influenced court dance of ancient SEA kingdoms, via Indian Brahmins. The court dance is based on Indian Bramins's ritual dance to Hindu gods, the step, the gesture on Angkor wall depict this bramhin dance. Siamese court dance also had this Indian Braminh dance element, and we evolved/developed and blend it with our local native court dance and became Siamese court dance that doesn't look like Indian anymore. Siamese court dance are very slow (slower than today), smooth movement, no jumping, not putting legs, knees, and heels so high. Because Siamese/Thai consider as rudeness. Siamese court dance is our unique and it truly our own Siamese/Thai culture.

While in Cambodia, when Angkor totally collapsed, I and everybody else who interested in Khmer culture always wonder that Khmer really had evolved their own culture or dance directly from Angkor people? If yes, why Khmer dance still looks very same or nearly identical to Siamese's, even there are almost 700 years for develop it. While Siam side have been changing/devoloping/evolving their culture. Why both of them still look very similar? Is it one-way influence from Siam to Cambodia? (and it also match the historic records that Khmer kings often came to Siamese courts for helps, since Ayodhya period)

I really think that if Khmer had directly developed their dance from Angkor people, True Khmer dance today must look like what you have shown us.


not like this...



For trolls on Youtube, I won't say who is to blamed or who started the outrage. I will give my Thai side of view here. As I have mentioned above that Thai kids really have no clue what's going on on Khmer people's mind (same as on Lao people's mind). Our Thai history textbooks or other oral stories, never teach them to hate Lao or Khmer. Thai history textbooks rarely mention Khmer or Lao wars with Siam or anybody else except Burma (which I personally think Thai gov should better concentrate on the French dispute on colonial period). So Thais people today are ignorant of Khmer and Lao but know well about Burmese wars. Most of Thai are neutral on Khmer and Lao ( some of Thais may fond of Khmer and Lao due to they had Lao or Khmer blood). Some may hate Burma, but those are mostly old people. So it's not our interest to talk about Lao/Khmer history or culture anywhere let alone on youtube. It may sound a bit rude, but it's true. And you already know Thai people's English writing are not good, same as mine haha. Unlike those offsprings of Lao/Khmer overseas in the US. That's why in my opinion, in Thai clips, the silly outrage are caused by Khmer/Lao American overseas. It's just my personal sense.



Many Thais don't feed those trolls and I see many Khmer members here don't feed trolls too. Thai are peaceful and calm people, if you can read Thai, many Thais create tons of beautiful website about Laos and Cambodia travel sites. They do love neighboring countries without prejudice. But... in here AF and for me, some specific Khmer trolls still have their choices to provoke Thais again or not.

Agree with PPeaceman and k NoKhmen.

Simple like

Thai

red+yellow =orange


Khmer

red+ green= orange


Thai and Khmer even have diiferent origin and different Language family different of cultural developtment and history.

Why different ingredient and porportion made almost the same dish.

Why culture look identical