Do you know that without the Khmer influence, the Siem Kuk would still be TRIBAL to this day. Here read all about it:

Since Dvaravati is one of our major root...we're civilized with or without Khmer...

But in reality Lavo/Ayodhya is always part of our ancestors...so...it's always came in a package...want academic prove???

Why ask, just prove it, you Siem Kuk Anyway, at least you are better than that dog Siem Kuk called NoKhmen. He is one wild dog from the jungle for sure. Tell that sh*thead to prove that there is such a word as Khom carved on the walls of any of the ancient stone temples of the Angkorean Empire. As for you, just prove it because I love berate any stupid $hitheaded Siem Kuk anytime.

Here what David K. Wyatt said about Lavo and Siamese...read the bold part...




Now who is David K. Wyatt......

David K. Wyatt (1937-2006) was an American historian and author who studied Thailand. He taught at Cornell University from 1969-2002, where he became the Chair of the Cornell University Department of History.

A proud Siamese/Thai...

Their is no such thing as Lavo or Ayodhya people or ethnic. It is all made up by Thai education system which also favored Thai nationalism beyond the untruth. Also reading all of those Thai history you can tell its all lie just for this purpose. Every history their is always a lost and win in the time line of the history. But in Thai time line history it all about winning. Where is the lost within these Thai so called truth? It seem that Thailand cannot show the lost among their history because they always believe that they won everything in history in the region.

Thai history is nothing more then mess up time line that doesn't even fit with the truth behind that history notion.

Khamnen Phnong dumbass, While your stinky khmer ancestors were still naked, walking with bare feet, didn't know how to brush their teeth, Siamese in Central and Southern Thailand had already been civilized, we had ancient dance and adopted religion. You stupid khmer still believe in Naga cult, the naked big snake worshipper. How stupid you and your ancestors are. LOL

Thai have many wars with Burma since Ayuthaya, win amd lost

Why we had Thonburi kingdom in Thai history because Ayuthaya lose war to Burma.

Thai won wars over Laos was true becuase it was true.

Dvaravati kingdom. This kingdom is much older than Khmer. Stop thinking that Khmer is the first,everything began in Khmer.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/174783/Dvaravati
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Dvaravati, ancient kingdom of Southeast Asia that flourished from the 6th to the 13th century. It was the first Mon kingdom established in what is now Thailand and played an important role as a propagator of Indian culture. Situated in the lower Chao Phraya River valley, Dvaravati extended westward to the Tenasserim Yoma (mountains) and southward to the Isthmus of Kra.

The Mon, who are believed to have originated in western China, entered the area in the 1st millennium bc, penetrating westward from the upper Mekong River. Dvaravati emerged as an independent entity late in the 6th ... (100 of 358 words)

Without the indians, the cambodians would also be tribal

Not necessarily, alot of what Khmer people say about their origin story involving a Naga princess rings true from an ancient Dharmic/Indian view of the world--Naga doesn't just mean snake/dragon it is also a label for those who have mastered a specific form of Tantric Yoga, one that is practiced as a society not as an individual. As an old 'Indian' political term it would be used to label any kingdom that, while not dharmic, was still civilized--if a society was ruled by a civilized Raja but was uncivilized itself it would be termed Nagaka. For example the ancient Greeks/arabs and Chinese were called Nagaka in old Sanskrit texts--but the Tibetan tribes were called Naga and still are today.


So to sum up if an ancient society in cambodia became Dharmic having previously being labled by ancient Indians as Naga--then they should refer to them by a new title of Devanaga--has anybody who is Khmer ever heard such a name being used for themselves? It could also explain the Naga cults in Cambodia as those Naga would be representations of their Rajas/ancestors, maybe they have forgotten the names of the specific ancestors.

I think this will explain about the Naga myth a little better. Has nothing to do with being ruled by civilised king etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naga_Kingdom

Its to do with the Naga myth of coming from that region. Not how they were ruled

Please be notice that: Huniten (Javanese South Indian influence?)and lievye (Khmer) and create Sorivong Royal bloodline, according to the Chinese is not talking about Naga, it the Chinese was talking about Funan origin happen in the first century. Kaudinya and Soma (NagaSoma) is another story happen around 5 century. Naga is not about that Snake. it is actually the name of the naga people who live 15 km from Delhi, Capital of Indian present day. According to the Chinese Text and Indian History record. Kaundinya might come from the north India? He was lost in battle when once time his people was dominate the the North India. He probably the refugee. He come to live in SakakThvip (Khmer: Norkor KokThlork) acorrding to Indian Religion Text. and later marriage the Princess of Funan (they actually have a fight) and created the Samvong Royal bloodline. and at that time Chenla was already a kingdom was ruling by one of the prince of Funan from Sorivong.

Note: the Crown Prince of Funan, Chenla, Angkor was selected according to their queen (Khmer) bloodline. So it mean those King at least have Khmer/Javanese or Khmer/Indian bloodline. Then later Khmer.
According to French scholar George Coedès advanced the theory that in using the word "Funan" ancient Chinese scholars were transcribing a word related to the Khmer word bnaṃ or vnaṃ (modern: phnoṃ, meaning "mountain")
But I don't think it really work^^

Here the last conclusion so far:

Funan was superseded and absorbed in the 6th century by the Khmer polity of Chenla. The first inscription in the Khmer language is dated shortly after the fall of Funan. A concentration of later Khmer inscriptions in southern Cambodia may suggest the even earlier presence of a Khmer population. Somewhat controversially, and despite the absence of compelling evidence as to the ethnicity of the Funanese, modern scholar Michael Vickery has issued the bold statement that "on present evidence it is impossible to assert that Funan as an area and its dominant groups were anything but Khmer".

Kaundinya, Preah Thaong, and the "Nagi Soma": some aspects of a Cambodian legend.



by Rudiger Gaudes


THE LEGEND

THE following legend is found in the report of the Chinese official

Zhou Daguan, who traveled to the medieval empire of

Cambodia (or Angkor) in the years 1296-97:

Inside the palace area is a golden tower at the top of which the king

has a bedchamber. The natives say that in the chamber there resides

a spirit in the form of a nine-headed serpent, which is the

owner of all the soil in the kingdom. The spirit appears every

night in the guise of a fair lady, and the king must spend the first

part of the night with her. If she fails to appear, it is a sign of the

king's death. If the king omits a night, the land is in imminent

danger.(1) (Pelliot 1902, 144-45; 1951, 12; Chatterji 1928, 6)

The part played in this medieval legend by the serpent lady is intriguing, for it reflects the importance of the naga (serpentine water spirits) in ancient Cambodian tales about the origins of their land. Travel books on Cambodia mention several versions of a legend about the origins of the kingdom, especially those of the first ruler's dynasty. Bastian (1866, 393-96), for example, relates a tale about a prince he refers to as "Phra Thong," who is expelled from "Myang Rom or Romavisei, not far from Takkhasinla" by his royal father because of his oppression of the people. He arrives at an island in the ocean named "Khok Talok" and there meets and marries "Nang Nakh" (Miss Naga), who regularly comes from the underworld to bathe in a lake. After a marriage ceremony in the subterranean realm, his father-in-law, "Phaya Nakh" (Dragon King), constructs for him the town of "Nakhon Thom, at that time named Kamphuxa, or ~The Water-Born'," as his new residence. His reign is followed by that of his son Samdeit Kamlong.

A variant legend (Bastian 1866, 397-98) says that in the beginning all the land was covered by water, from which the island of Khok Talok slowly rose above the surface. Phaya Nakh and his daughter Nang Nakh used to go there from their subterranean realm in order to sunbathe. In this variant, the god Indra begets a son with the naga princess. Named Ketumalea (or Ketmealea, Ket Mala, Ketumala), the boy is not allowed to live in heaven because of his human odor. Indra therefore has heaven's architect, Phra Pitsanukam (Visvakarman), build the town of Inthapataburi for him on earth.

Quite similar--in parts even identical--versions are recorded by Garnier (1873, 98-101) from the accounts of natives. Both Bastian and Garnier also give other variants, according to which Phra Thong is the son of the king of Burma. He banishes from the island of Khok Talok the Cham king who rules there.

The royal annals go into more detail. Here is a shortened version based on the French translations of these annals by Moura (1883, II, 4-11; 1971, 1-7) and Poree-Maspero (1950, 239-40):

A few months before his death, Buddha arrives at the island Kouk

Thlok [land of the thlok tree] and prophesies that a trakuot [a kind

of lizard] living there by a thlok tree would obtain rebirth as the

son of the king of Intakpath [Indraprastha] and later become king

of a new state at Kouk Thlok. In the year 1 of the Buddhist era

[commonly beginning with Buddha's death in 543 B.C.], the king of

the Chams is shipwrecked near the Dangrek Mountains, where he

forms a new state and also becomes ruler over Kouk Thlok. In

the year 100 of the Buddhist era, King Atichavong of Indraprastha

hands over portions of his kingdom to his sons; to the fourth,

named Preah Thaong, he gives the southern part. As a result of

disobedience, Preah Thaong is later exiled together with his people.

He arrives at Kouk Thlok, displaces the Cham ruler, and

himself becomes king. Later he meets the daughter of the naga

king on the beach. A marriage ceremony takes place in the subterranean

kingdom, after which the naga king creates a realm on earth

for his son-in-law by drinking up the ocean. The new land is

named Kampuchea. After nine months a daughter is born. In

the year 500 of the Buddhist era the Cham king comes with an

army from Laos, but they are beaten back. The daughter of Preah

Thaong and the naga princess then become pregnant by the god

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Huntian
The Book of Liang records the story of the foundation of Funan by the foreigner Hùntián (混塡): "He came from the southern country Jiào (徼, an unidentified location, perhaps on the Malaysian Peninsula or in the Indonesian archipelago) after dreaming that his personal genie had delivered a divine bow to him and had directed him to embark on a large merchant junk. In the morning, he proceeded to the temple, where he found a bow at the foot of the genie's tree. He then boarded a ship, which the genie caused to land in Fúnán. The queen of the country, Liǔyè (柳葉, "Willow Leaf") wanted to pillage the ship and seize it, so Hùntián shot an arrow from his divine bow which pierced through Liǔyè's ship. Frightened, she gave herself up, and Hùntián took her for his wife. But unhappy to see her naked, he folded a piece of material to make a garment through which he made her pass her head. Then he governed the country and passed power on to his son, who was the founder of seven cities." Nearly the same story appeared in the Jìn shū 晉書 ("History of the Jìn Dynasty" or "Book of Jin"), compiled by Fáng Xuánlíng 房玄齡 (578-648) in AD 648; however, in the Book of Jin the names given to the foreign conqueror and his native wife are "Hùnhuì" 混湏 and "Yèliǔ" 葉柳.
[edit]Kaundinya
Some scholars have identified the conqueror Hùntián of the Book of Liang with the brahmin Kauṇḍinya who married a nāga (snake) princess named Somā, as set forth in a Sanskrit inscription found at My Son and dated AD 658 (see below). Other scholars[5] have rejected this identification, pointing out that the word "Hùntián" has only two syllables, while the word "Kauṇḍinya" has three, and arguing that Chinese scholars would not have used a two-syllable Chinese word to transcribe a three-syllable word from another language.[6] However, the name "Kaundinya" appears in a number of independent sources and seems to point to a figure of some importance in the history of Funan.
[edit]Kaundinya in the Chinese sources
Even if the Chinese "Hùntián" is not the proper transcription of the Sanskrit "Kaundinya," the name "Kaundinya" [Kauṇḍinya, Koṇḍañña, Koṇḍinya, etc.] is nevertheless an important one in the history of Funan as written by the Chinese historians: however, they transcribed it not as "Hùntián," but as "Qiáochénrú" 僑陳如.[7] A person of that name is mentioned in the Book of Liang in a story that appears somewhat after the story of Hùntián. According to this source, Qiáochénrú was one of the successors of the king Tiānzhú Zhāntán 天竺旃檀 (“Candana from India”), a ruler of Funan who in the year 357 AD sent tamed elephants as tribute to the Chinese emperor Sīmǎ Dān 司馬聃 (r. 344-361; memorial name: Mùdì 穆帝): “He [Qiáochénrú] was originally a Brahmin from India. There a voice told him: ʻyou must go reign over Fúnán,ʼ and he rejoiced in his heart. In the south, he arrived at Pánpán 盤盤. The people of Fúnán appeared to him; the whole kingdom rose up with joy, went before him, and chose him king. He changed all the laws to conform to the system of India.”
[edit]Kaundinya in the inscription of Mỹ Sơn
The story of Kaundinya is also set forth briefly in the Sanskrit inscription C. 96 of the Cham king Prakasadharma found at Mỹ Sơn. It is dated Sunday, 18 February, 658 AD (and thus belongs to the post-Funanese period) and states in relevant part (stanzas XVI-XVIII):[8] "It was there [at the city of Bhavapura] that Kauṇḍinya, the foremost among brahmins, planted the spear which he had obtained from Droṇa's Son Aśvatthāman, the best of brahmins. There was a daughter of a king of serpents, called "Somā," who founded a family in this world. Having attained, through love, to a radically different element, she lived in the abode of man. She was taken as wife by the excellent brahmin Kauṇḍinya for the sake of (accomplishing) a certain task ...".[9]

Kaundinya in the inscription of Tháp Mười
The Sanskrit inscription (K.5) of Tháp Mười (known as "Pràsàt Prằṃ Lovêṅ" in Khmer), which is now on display in the Museum of Vietnamese History in Ho Chi Minh City, refers to a Prince Guṇavarman, younger son (nṛpasunu—bālo pi) of a king Ja[yavarman] who was “the moon of the Kauṇḍinya line (… kauṇḍi[n]ya[vaṅ]śaśaśinā …) and chief “of a realm wrested from the mud”.[10]
[edit]Kaundinya in Khmer folklore
The legend of Kaundinya is paralleled in modern Khmer folklore, where the foreign prince is known as "Preah Thaong" and the queen as "Neang Neak." In this version of the story, Preah Thaong arrives by sea to an island marked by a giant thlok tree, native to Cambodia. On the Island, he finds the home of the nāgas and meets Neang Neak, daughter of the nāga king. He marries her with blessings from her father and returns to the human world. The nāga king drinks the sea around the island and confers the name "Kampuchea Thipdei," which is derived from the Sanskrit (Kambujādhipati) and may be translated into English as "the lord of Cambodia." In another version, it is stated that Preah Thaong fights Neang Neak.[11][12][13]
[edit]Other occurrences of the name "Kaundinya" in the history of Funan
The name "Kauṇḍinya" is well-known from South Indian inscriptions of the 1st millennium AD, and it seems that Funan was ruled up the 6th century AD by a clan of the same name. "Kaundinya" was also the name of an important Funanese bonze and diplomat of the 5th century. According to the Nán Qí shū 南齊書 (“Annals of the Southern Qí Dynasty”) of Xiāo Zīxiǎn 簫子顯 (485-537) the Fúnán king Qiáochénrú Shéyébámó 僑陳如闍耶跋摩 (Kauṇḍinya Jayavarman) “sent in the year 484 the Buddhist monk Nàjiāxiān 那伽仙 (Nāgasena) to offer presents to the Chinese emperor and to ask the emperor at the same time for help in conquering Línyí 臨沂 (north of Campā) … The emperor of China thanked Shéyébámó for his presents, but sent no troops against Línyí”.[14]
You should learn more these are just from wiki dear!! ^^

Khmer identity never exist in the past (Angkor).

Modern Khmer = Phnong and other MK speakers + Cham

it not existed is not because of the fact but it is your ignorance don't tear your eyes to see them!!!

Before Siamese Ayutthaya called you Khmer, there were nobody called Khmer even yourselves.

lol... you call us Khmer or Khamen??? lolzzz you loser!!! Khmeer word even existed even many century before Ayuthaya lost to Siam!!!

We call you Khamen and we write it to Khmer, then you took that word Khmer and pronounce it as Khamae. LOL

lol who taught you that?? you dad? lol tell him back to school!!!! or tell him to meet me I can give her some advice to get a good book for him!! ^^

we call you ladyboys siem see ath kgriem( siamese eat dry poop).

Go plays your dildo, idiot kid.

hahaha I hear it from my mom too!!! Pourk A siem Arch Krii!!!!

And so far your people have only come up with a word that sounds like Khmer lol but refuse to publish what context it was used for lol this shows that they are hiding that it is just a word that sounds like Khmer.

This is not what you call hard evidence dumbass lol