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JazzyQueen

I do some researching about ancient Khmer and Khmer History... I know Vietnamese is related to Khmer in Ancient time, Basic Vietnamese language have alot of Khmer vocabularies..That prove that Vietnamese come from Khmer is true..cuz khmer empire have history before vietnamese... but some historian give out the conclusion that vietnamese come from Khmer + mongolian...that make viet-race today...but chinese said that Vietnam come from BaiYue mean the tribe from Southern China. However I am vietnamese, I think that Vietnamese could be from Khmer mixing vietnam mongolian and moving to Red Delta river and settle ther to form a nation..That is why the way, mind, of Vietnamese fighter is exactly like khmer.

what do you think...give some ideas.
ladyboyfarang
better than being related to thai ladyboys embarassedlaugh.gif
NoKhmen
QUOTE (ladyboyfarang @ Oct 2 2011, 09:47 PM) *
better than being related to thai ladyboys embarassedlaugh.gif


Khmer king? rotflmao.gif
ladyboyfarang
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 2 2011, 10:03 PM) *
Khmer king? rotflmao.gif

better than your soon to be prostitute queen srirasmi. embarassedlaugh.gif
NoKhmen
QUOTE (ladyboyfarang @ Oct 2 2011, 10:22 PM) *
better than your soon to be prostitute queen srirasmi. embarassedlaugh.gif


Queen? She is not a queen. you are just idiot. embarassedlaugh.gif

Khmer king have a son? rotflmao.gif
ladyboyfarang
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 2 2011, 10:23 PM) *
Queen? She is not a queen. you are just idiot. embarassedlaugh.gif

Khmer king have a son? rotflmao.gif

i said "SOON TO BE". youre an idiot and a ladyboy. embarassedlaugh.gif
SabaiSabai
Viets are a different ethnic group that speaks the mon-khmer (austroasiatic) language. Nothing to do with being the same people icon_smile.gif Language link does not mean blood link.

Something we need to keep reminding Khmers when they try to assimilated every mon-khmer speaking people as "khmer" lol
NoKhmen
QUOTE (ladyboyfarang @ Oct 2 2011, 10:27 PM) *
i said "SOON TO BE". youre an idiot and a ladyboy. embarassedlaugh.gif


In you stupid logic, It's same as she will be a queen. It's present in the future. LOL

What about your khmen king, Does he have a son yet? confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif
ladyboyfarang
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 2 2011, 10:32 PM) *
Viets are a different ethnic group that speaks the mon-khmer (austroasiatic) language. Nothing to do with being the same people icon_smile.gif Language link does not mean blood link.

Something we need to keep reminding Khmers when they try to assimilated every mon-khmer speaking people as "khmer" lol

heres a cookie for you. embarassedlaugh.gif

yes we have khmerlao, khmersiam, khmerviet and khmerjin. if they are not mixed , then we just called them khmer. beerchug.gif
ladyboyfarang
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 2 2011, 10:34 PM) *
In you stupid logic, It's same as she will be a queen. It's present in the future. LOL

What about your khmen king, Does he have a son yet? confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif

are you happy with your soon to be queen princess srirasmi(prostitute/playboy)? embarassedlaugh.gif
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (ladyboyfarang @ Oct 3 2011, 04:39 AM) *
heres a cookie for you. embarassedlaugh.gif

yes we have khmerlao, khmersiam, khmerviet and khmerjin. if they are not mixed , then we just called them khmer. beerchug.gif


This is why your all so confused with yourselves icon_smile.gif They speak Mon-Khmer doesnt mean they are Mon Khmer lol

Now how do you explain Chams in Cambodia? Khmer Islam lol did you ask them if they wanted to be renamed as Khmer Islam? lol

Khmers have an identity crisis icon_smile.gif you can thank your french masters for that. Same as Lao people.
ladyboyfarang
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 2 2011, 10:44 PM) *
This is why your all so confused with yourselves icon_smile.gif They speak Mon-Khmer doesnt mean they are Mon Khmer lol

Now how do you explain Chams in Cambodia? Khmer Islam lol did you ask them if they wanted to be renamed as Khmer Islam? lol

Khmers have an identity crisis icon_smile.gif you can thank your french masters for that. Same as Lao people.

we called them khmercham. if you were born and raise in cambodia we'll call you khmerthai ladyboys. beerchug.gif

actually thais are the ones who have identity crisis, because you ladyboys claim to be tai, and you guys only speak tai language. embarassedlaugh.gif
NoKhmen
QUOTE (ladyboyfarang @ Oct 2 2011, 10:43 PM) *
are you happy with your soon to be queen princess srirasmi(prostitute/playboy)? embarassedlaugh.gif


She may or may not be a queen. But Khmer dynasty will extinct if this Khmer king don't wanna produce his heir. rotflmao.gif
NoKhmen
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 2 2011, 10:44 PM) *
This is why your all so confused with yourselves icon_smile.gif They speak Mon-Khmer doesnt mean they are Mon Khmer lol

Now how do you explain Chams in Cambodia? Khmer Islam lol did you ask them if they wanted to be renamed as Khmer Islam? lol

Khmers have an identity crisis icon_smile.gif you can thank your french masters for that. Same as Lao people.


Everybody are Khmer!!! That's why Angkorean must be Khmer!!! embarassedlaugh.gif
NoKhmen
Lao and Khmer are confused themselves. LOL

In Thailand and Malaysia we differentiate ethnic and nationality, and both name nationality after the main ethnic group.
Ethnic - Nationality
Tai - Thai
Malay - Malaysian

But in Lao, Cambodia, they messily use them.
Ethnic - Nationality
Lao - Lao/Laotian (they have Laotian, but they don't use it but love to use Lao instead)
Khmer - Khmer/Cambodian (they have Cambodian, but they don't use it but love to use Khmer instead)

This is the reason why all Tai are Lao, and Angkorean are Khmer. embarassedlaugh.gif
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (ladyboyfarang @ Oct 3 2011, 04:55 AM) *
we called them khmercham. if you were born and raise in cambodia we'll call you khmerthai ladyboys. beerchug.gif

actually thais are the ones who have identity crisis, because you ladyboys claim to be tai, and you guys only speak tai language. embarassedlaugh.gif


Khmer-cham? rofl thats 2 different ethnic groups. Do you people even know what an ethnic group is? bloody hell. Khmer thai is a khmer person who is a Thai citizen. Khmer is not a national identity dumbass lol

Dont they teach you anything at school? and you people flap your mouths about Thai people having an identity crisis? lol we have always been known as Tai. Only outsiders called us something else lol

Khmer are historically, cultural, ethnicly, and just about everything confused. lol Im starting to pity you people icon_sad.gif the Frenchies really messed up your heads lol or is this just a by product of slave DNA? lol
ladyboyfarang
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 2 2011, 11:17 PM) *
Khmer-cham? rofl thats 2 different ethnic groups. Do you people even know what an ethnic group is? bloody hell. Khmer thai is a khmer person who is a Thai citizen. Khmer is not a national identity dumbass lol

Dont they teach you anything at school? and you people flap your mouths about Thai people having an identity crisis? lol we have always been known as Tai. Only outsiders called us something else lol

Khmer are historically, cultural, ethnicly, and just about everything confused. lol Im starting to pity you people icon_sad.gif the Frenchies really messed up your heads lol or is this just a by product of slave DNA? lol

who said we cant use khmer as a nationality?

you ladyboys are not tai, you are bunch of culture thieves ladyboys called siamese(slave) and changed it to thai. embarassedlaugh.gif
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (ladyboyfarang @ Oct 3 2011, 05:27 AM) *
who said we cant use khmer as a nationality?

you ladyboys are not tai, you are bunch of culture thieves ladyboys called siamese(slave) and changed it to thai. embarassedlaugh.gif


Your country is called Cambodia, not Khmerland lol retard if you want to use Khmer as your nationality. I guess you just have to change the name of the country lol but oh wait.. that would just be copying us then wouldnt it lol
Pheak
I can believe that. I wouldn't mind it.
I always believed Khmer empire was one of the Greatest empire of Ancient Southeast Asia and Vietnamese are at the greatest warriors of Southeast Asia. Given enough time (without french intervening) I think they could have taken over all of Southeast Asian Mainland. I hate to say it but Cambodia became a weak nation after the fall of Lovek we couldn't have done aything to prevent it. It would have been a battle between Siam and Vietnam. I would give have to give it to vietnam.

Both country have great warriors. But when it comes down to it. Siam depends manpower and technology. Vietnam has more experience, suffered more(their will to survive would play a part) and they are MASTERS of strategy.
It should be an episode on deadliest warriors lol

So I would not mind being related to them. I highly doubt it though

KhmerBoi
You know I am sick now~
Now you come up with this? Don't you know that Thai people trying to relate us to Cham people as well? they even related Lao people to Khmer people and Siam they say they are Khorm ^^ Well, if everyone believe that... what Khmer could it be?? I am confusing with you guy history.. which kind of book that you guys read?? So wonder...

Okay let me clear alittle bit here..

Cham is a new nation was establish during Funan. They was actually Javanese.

Before 1 century Funan King was at least people who speak Mon-Khmer language Family. they later call them self Khmer. (North Indian Known Khmer as Naga people at the time because we look so similar to those Naga people who live 15 Km from Deldhi present day.)

At the first Century Javanese come to Funan a war between the Javanese and Funanese happened in the end of the war King of Funan marriage his Princess to that Javanese (at least Brahmanist). 6 Cham(actually haft Khmer-Javanese) Kings was ruling the ancient Khmer Kingdom is one of the Khmer Legend to proved this. It believe that was Javanese. Cham is modern name of Javanese Refugee from Funan to Champasakpura?? (Sorry I am not sure that I am right but something like that) then later become Champa Kingdom and their people call Cham.

So Cham is not Khmer Cham is might be Javanese.
Khmer King in Funan was once time Native Janvaness then haft Khmer-Javanese... then Khmer.. (Note: in Funan and later Chenla until Angkor only prince who have the Queen bloodline could become a crown prince) That why later they use the word Khmer Empire to call Angkor Empire)
The Vietnames is speaking Mon-Khmer but they do not share anything with Khmer Ancestor.. But Siam Yes! but the fact they create other race call Khorm to seperate them self from Khmer then they blame France who trying to Separated Khmer from Siam.. while Khmer dislike them like hell in the history.., and is obvious for us!!

The Lao people mostly silence for us but help Khmer sometime. Lao-Khmer always satisfy of each other. Lao actually Native White Tai (that Khmer though ^^)
According to Chinese: Tai people got their own Kingdom call Nanchoa. White Tai people mostly live in Dali.

The Siam present day or Central Thai is the Thief that what we can decrypt them!! Aggressive Monkey that how Chinese Decrypt them!! Siam or Syam is one of the three ancient city pre-angkor it was name by the Indian to call the Black Tai people. Syam later become Siam because following the Khmer word Siem according to the Zhou Daguan to call those Tai refugee from Nanchoa. Siam Kingdom was established by at least haft Khmer/haft Tai Refugee bloodline... Siam or Centrol Thai ancestor at least Mon-Khmer-Tai (Tai Refugee and Black Tai of Syam Ancient City of Chanla)

I doubt that Khmer is one become a National Race to call most of the Austroasiatic people. (the Meus people call Khmer as Charay, for us Charay is other indigenous people)
I respect Vietnamese race, Khmer Race, Laos Race, Burmese Race... But I am so confusing about Siam race who they really are.. they even don't accept it! ^^
Again, Thai people can't understand why Khmer got the problem with the national race.. I think in return because they lack of understanding what is Khmer really mean to us! ^^
Kambuja is a modern word to call Sruk Khmer. like we use PreahChoa Krung Kambuja for Siam/Sangkrit influence then Cambodge when France come then Cambodia for English to talk to the modern word! ^^
Pheak
I heard this is the second time they claim Angkor ancestry based on Khom theory. The first time was in the 60s because of Preah Vihear and they failed to prove anything. We won the debate and it was ruled in our favour. Now with the border dispute it's brought up again. Coincidence?
Foxever
Khmer is from south China go to south and mix with Maylay, Indian beerchug.gif .
Viet is Austro-asiatic speaker but not from south China because Viet is Negrito orgin not relate with Yue (Austronesian).
ladyboyfarang
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 3 2011, 12:04 AM) *
You know I am sick now~
Now you come up with this? Don't you know that Thai people trying to relate us to Cham people as well? they even related Lao people to Khmer people and Siam they say they are Khorm ^^ Well, if everyone believe that... what Khmer could it be?? I am confusing with you guy history.. which kind of book that you guys read?? So wonder...

Okay let me clear alittle bit here..

Cham is a new nation was establish during Funan. They was actually Javanese.

Before 1 century Funan King was at least people who speak Mon-Khmer language Family. they later call them self Khmer. (North Indian Known Khmer as Naga people at the time because we look so similar to those Naga people who live 15 Km from Deldhi present day.)

At the first Century Javanese come to Funan a war between the Javanese and Funanese happened in the end of the war King of Funan marriage his Princess to that Javanese (at least Brahmanist). 6 Cham(actually haft Khmer-Javanese) Kings was ruling the ancient Khmer Kingdom is one of the Khmer Legend to proved this. It believe that was Javanese. Cham is modern name of Javanese Refugee from Funan to Champasakpura?? (Sorry I am not sure that I am right but something like that) then later become Champa Kingdom and their people call Cham.

So Cham is not Khmer Cham is might be Javanese.
Khmer King in Funan was once time Native Janvaness then haft Khmer-Javanese... then Khmer.. (Note: in Funan and later Chenla until Angkor only prince who have the Queen bloodline could become a crown prince) That why later they use the word Khmer Empire to call Angkor Empire)
The Vietnames is speaking Mon-Khmer but they do not share anything with Khmer Ancestor.. But Siam Yes! but the fact they create other race call Khorm to seperate them self from Khmer then they blame France who trying to Separated Khmer from Siam.. while Khmer dislike them like hell in the history.., and is obvious for us!!

The Lao people mostly silence for us but help Khmer sometime. Lao-Khmer always satisfy of each other. Lao actually Native White Tai (that Khmer though ^^)
According to Chinese: Tai people got their own Kingdom call Nanchoa. White Tai people mostly live in Dali.

The Siam present day or Central Thai is the Thief that what we can decrypt them!! Aggressive Monkey that how Chinese Decrypt them!! Siam or Syam is one of the three ancient city pre-angkor it was name by the Indian to call the Black Tai people. Syam later become Siam because following the Khmer word Siem according to the Zhou Daguan to call those Tai refugee from Nanchoa. Siam Kingdom was established by at least haft Khmer/haft Tai Refugee bloodline... Siam or Centrol Thai ancestor at least Mon-Khmer-Tai (Tai Refugee and Black Tai of Syam Ancient City of Chanla)

I doubt that Khmer is one become a National Race to call most of the Austroasiatic people. (the Meus people call Khmer as Charay, for us Charay is other indigenous people)
I respect Vietnamese race, Khmer Race, Laos Race, Burmese Race... But I am so confusing about Siam race who they really are.. they even don't accept it! ^^
Again, Thai people can't understand why Khmer got the problem with the national race.. I think in return because they lack of understanding what is Khmer really mean to us! ^^
Kambuja is a modern word to call Sruk Khmer. like we use PreahChoa Krung Kambuja for Siam/Sangkrit influence then Cambodge when France come then Cambodia for English to talk to the modern word! ^^

siamese are a bunch of confused ladyboys. embarassedlaugh.gif

they are claiming to be tai ,because they speak a tai language.they are nothing but siamese(slave) ladyboys. embarassedlaugh.gif
JazzyQueen
QUOTE (Foxever @ Oct 3 2011, 01:13 AM) *
Khmer is from south China go to south and mix with Maylay, Indian beerchug.gif .
Viet is Austro-asiatic speaker but not from south China because Viet is Negrito orgin not relate with Yue (Austronesian).



YOU SAID KHMER FROM SOUTH CHINA LIKE YOU SAID ...YOUR FATHER IS FROM ENGLAND.
RACE IS DIFFERENT, LANGUAGE IS DIFFERENT, DNA DIFFERENT, MENTALITY IS DIFFERENT, AND KHMER EXITED BEFORE CHINESE RACE APPEAR THEN YOU SAID THEY ARE FROM CHINA ? WHAT A PATHETIC CHINESE ? YOU MAKE ALL CHINESE LOOK VERY DUMB.

ANYWAY ..VIETNAMESE = BLACK, MONKEY, BARBARIAN, INDONESIAN, KHMER, HINDI OR WHATEVER...BUT WHY CHINESE WANTED TO LIVE IN VIETNAM, AND 40 THOUSAND CHINESE HAN KING RELATIVES OF MING DYNASTY ASK FOR PLACE TO LIVE IN VIETNAM WHEN MANCHURIAN ATTACKED TAKE OVER CHINA... VIETNAM MONKEY FEEDING 40K CHINESE HAN'S KING RELATIVE SINCE 16 CENTURY UP 21 CENTURY UP TO 5 MILLIONS CHINESE AND MORE CHINESE LIKE TO COME TO VIETNAM TO LIVE EVEN THEY KNOW VIETNAM = VERY TINY, VIETNAM = DIRTY, = MONKEY, = BLACK.= NEGRITO..WHATEVER...AHHAHAHAHA
FINALLY I KNOW CHINESE LIKE MARRY MONKEY...CUZ 100K CHINESE MAN AND WOMAN GO TO VIETNAM MARRY MONKEY..KAÊKAÊK..YOUR KNOWLEGE IS VERY SHORT ..YOU MAKE YOUR CHINESE RACE ASHAME, LOOK VERY DUMB.
Foxever
^ you crazy embarassedlaugh.gif . Khmer is from south China no doubt. Khmer language is fit to HK music at all. Do you think Indonesian can sing type of this song? Most Viet dialect does not good at HK song, except southern where most of Chinese live. There are also alot of intermarrige between Chinese and Khmer in Southwest Vietnam beerchug.gif .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_kIB0SbXg

Listen this, even Khmer can not sing Thai song. It sound weird for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K__93Ltm-kI

nevergone
QUOTE (JazzyQueen @ Oct 3 2011, 03:33 AM) *
YOU SAID KHMER FROM SOUTH CHINA LIKE YOU SAID ...YOUR FATHER IS FROM ENGLAND.
RACE IS DIFFERENT, LANGUAGE IS DIFFERENT, DNA DIFFERENT, MENTALITY IS DIFFERENT, AND KHMER EXITED BEFORE CHINESE RACE APPEAR THEN YOU SAID THEY ARE FROM CHINA ? WHAT A PATHETIC CHINESE ? YOU MAKE ALL CHINESE LOOK VERY DUMB.

ANYWAY ..VIETNAMESE = BLACK, MONKEY, BARBARIAN, INDONESIAN, KHMER, HINDI OR WHATEVER...BUT WHY CHINESE WANTED TO LIVE IN VIETNAM, AND 40 THOUSAND CHINESE HAN KING RELATIVES OF MING DYNASTY ASK FOR PLACE TO LIVE IN VIETNAM WHEN MANCHURIAN ATTACKED TAKE OVER CHINA... VIETNAM MONKEY FEEDING 40K CHINESE HAN'S KING RELATIVE SINCE 16 CENTURY UP 21 CENTURY UP TO 5 MILLIONS CHINESE AND MORE CHINESE LIKE TO COME TO VIETNAM TO LIVE EVEN THEY KNOW VIETNAM = VERY TINY, VIETNAM = DIRTY, = MONKEY, = BLACK.= NEGRITO..WHATEVER...AHHAHAHAHA
FINALLY I KNOW CHINESE LIKE MARRY MONKEY...CUZ 100K CHINESE MAN AND WOMAN GO TO VIETNAM MARRY MONKEY..KAÊKAÊK..YOUR KNOWLEGE IS VERY SHORT ..YOU MAKE YOUR CHINESE RACE ASHAME, LOOK VERY DUMB.


Hahahha yeh that's right, we're negrito/monkey but it always the Chinese came to seek protection from monkey. in history recorded the early people migrated from China to Vietnam as early as before the China existed, most these people were from elite ruling class, Shu, Zhao, Qin, Ming...etc. These elite ruling class must loved monkey country and hated $hit hole China.

There's something Chinese did not realize, as much as they want us to acknowledge they are superior than us . However the fact that to us they are nothing but some sort of losers and barbarians people. I wished these Chinese nationalists could read the Vietnamese to know how Vietnamese often portray them as aggressive barbarians, and losers. LOL.

We do not give a rat @$$ to the French and Americans, what makes these dumb Chinese losers think that we must acknowledge them as superior? the Chinese need to stop dreaming.
nnas1
QUOTE (JazzyQueen @ Oct 2 2011, 07:28 PM) *
I do some researching about ancient Khmer and Khmer History... I know Vietnamese is related to Khmer in Ancient time, Basic Vietnamese language have alot of Khmer vocabularies..That prove that Vietnamese come from Khmer is true..cuz khmer empire have history before vietnamese... but some historian give out the conclusion that vietnamese come from Khmer + mongolian...that make viet-race today...but chinese said that Vietnam come from BaiYue mean the tribe from Southern China. However I am vietnamese, I think that Vietnamese could be from Khmer mixing vietnam mongolian and moving to Red Delta river and settle ther to form a nation..That is why the way, mind, of Vietnamese fighter is exactly like khmer.

what do you think...give some ideas.


Vietnamese takes 60% of its vocabulary from Chinese. The words that are the same as in Khmer come from Mon Khmer Language, theoretical mother language of both Khmer and Vietnamese. That's why they are in the same family. So the words in Vietnamese that are the same as in Khmer haven't actually come from Khmer, but from the theoretical mother language. Also, you can't just use that to say Viets originate from Khmers, which is not true.
JazzyQueen
QUOTE (nnas1 @ Oct 6 2011, 04:39 PM) *
Vietnamese takes 60% of its vocabulary from Chinese. The words that are the same as in Khmer come from Mon Khmer Language, theoretical mother language of both Khmer and Vietnamese. That's why they are in the same family. So the words in Vietnamese that are the same as in Khmer haven't actually come from Khmer, but from the theoretical mother language. Also, you can't just use that to say Viets originate from Khmers, which is not true.


Political and administration words are from chinese that is true, but I mean that basic words are from khmer It means the mother tounge language... I mean Vietnamese = conbination of Khmer + Mongolia and some chinese... but the root is still Khmer .
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (JazzyQueen @ Oct 7 2011, 01:29 AM) *
Political and administration words are from chinese that is true, but I mean that basic words are from khmer It means the mother tounge language... I mean Vietnamese = conbination of Khmer + Mongolia and some chinese... but the root is still Khmer .


Mon-Khmer Language = Austroasiatic.

Viets are not Austroasiatic. It doesn't take a genius to see that lol Viets come from Khmers roflmao what else? Black people come from Khmers??? lol
freeter
QUOTE (JazzyQueen @ Oct 2 2011, 07:28 PM) *
I do some researching about ancient Khmer and Khmer History... I know Vietnamese is related to Khmer in Ancient time, Basic Vietnamese language have alot of Khmer vocabularies..That prove that Vietnamese come from Khmer is true..cuz khmer empire have history before vietnamese... but some historian give out the conclusion that vietnamese come from Khmer + mongolian...that make viet-race today...but chinese said that Vietnam come from BaiYue mean the tribe from Southern China. However I am vietnamese, I think that Vietnamese could be from Khmer mixing vietnam mongolian and moving to Red Delta river and settle ther to form a nation..That is why the way, mind, of Vietnamese fighter is exactly like khmer.

what do you think...give some ideas.


The Khmer sure have a great history and all, but there are several points I can't seem to agree with your post.

Funan, the precursor of Chenla-the first khmer kingdom, was founded sometime between 400 B.C. and 100 A.D. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Funan ).

On the Vietnamese side, Thuc Dynasty, the first historically proved dynasty of Vietnam, was founded in 257 B.C. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Vietnam ). Prior to the Thuc of Au Lac, there are Van Lang whose founding date was speculated to be sometime before 500 B.C. While the the founding date of Van Lang has not been confirmed, the fact that the country existed is widely accepted.

With Van Lang stacking on top of Au Lac, Vietnam would be just as old as Funan. Therefore, I don't see how you could claim "khmer empire have history before Vietnamese" (word for word). It is a common misconception among many people who don't know much about Vietnamese history that the Viet, just like the Tai and Lao, fled from the Mongolian invaders into SEA around the 12th and 13rd century. No, we have been here for more than 2 millennia already. Of course the gene pool changes over time as we interact with other groups but the fact that we are an old ethnic group with a long history doesn't change.
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (freeter @ Oct 7 2011, 06:42 AM) *
The Khmer sure have a great history and all, but there are several points I can't seem to agree with your post.

Funan, the precursor of Chenla-the first khmer kingdom, was founded sometime between 400 B.C. and 100 A.D. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Funan ).

On the Vietnamese side, Thuc Dynasty, the first historically proved dynasty of Vietnam, was founded in 257 B.C. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Vietnam ). Prior to the Thuc of Au Lac, there are Van Lang whose founding date was speculated to be sometime before 500 B.C. While the the founding date of Van Lang has not been confirmed, the fact that the country existed is widely accepted.

With Van Lang stacking on top of Au Lac, Vietnam would be just as old as Funan. Therefore, I don't see how you could claim "khmer empire have history before Vietnamese" (word for word). It is a common misconception among many people who don't know much about Vietnamese history that the Viet, just like the Tai and Lao, fled from the Mongolian invaders into SEA around the 12th and 13rd century. No, we have been here for more than 2 millennia already. Of course the gene pool changes over time as we interact with other groups but the fact that we are an old ethnic group with a long history doesn't change.


Thanks for the info on Viet History icon_smile.gif makes me want to research that side too beerchug.gif

For some silly reason Khmers have fooled themselves into believing they are the ORIGIN of SEA culture lol. Even in the face of evidence! I think this is just their bad Karma coming back on them. No one in SEA really cared about history and tried to develop their country, but since Khmers have been barking and lieing about the history and trying to trick the world into believing they are the original people of SEA, Many people have come forward to show the world that it is just a lie icon_smile.gif

nnas1
QUOTE (JazzyQueen @ Oct 6 2011, 05:29 PM) *
Political and administration words are from chinese that is true, but I mean that basic words are from khmer It means the mother tounge language... I mean Vietnamese = conbination of Khmer + Mongolia and some chinese... but the root is still Khmer .


Are you even Vietnamese? Do you speak Vietnamese? Why do you make it sound like you are an expert in the Vietnamese language. I'm sure you aren't. lol, And even so, just because the language is similar, that does not mean we are descended from the Khmer. Did you not even read my post?
asean.asia
^ maybe JazzyQueen is a Khmer, so she wants all vietnamese to think and be like her. kiss.gif
DOUBLEMINT
QUOTE (JazzyQueen @ Oct 2 2011, 09:28 PM) *
I do some researching about ancient Khmer and Khmer History... I know Vietnamese is related to Khmer in Ancient time, Basic Vietnamese language have alot of Khmer vocabularies..That prove that Vietnamese come from Khmer is true..cuz khmer empire have history before vietnamese... but some historian give out the conclusion that vietnamese come from Khmer + mongolian...that make viet-race today...but chinese said that Vietnam come from BaiYue mean the tribe from Southern China. However I am vietnamese, I think that Vietnamese could be from Khmer mixing vietnam mongolian and moving to Red Delta river and settle ther to form a nation..That is why the way, mind, of Vietnamese fighter is exactly like khmer.

what do you think...give some ideas.

Chinese?What chinese?You viets are the one claiming vietnamese come from baiyue or whatnot all day long okay?You cant have it both ways loser.
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