Everyone goes on about how horny guys are and how much we need sex, but who really needs sex more once you're in a relationship?

While I would agree that guys are most likely hornier than girls, guys are also more prone to using 'visual aids' and 'giving themself a hand.' My argument is that both guys and girls need relief, and that guys are alot more likely to relieve themselves than girls.

From my experience, girls need a guy if they're to get off, while guys can more readily do it themselves. This leads the girl to eventually want sex more than the guys. I liken it to a sexually repressed librarian, once they get some, they can't get enough of it.

I don't have a low sexdrive, but I don't really want to have sex twice a day after I'm more than 2 months into a relationship, especially if it takes 30-45mins from start to finish each session.....if it were two 5mins sessions a day then it'll be a different story

So what do you think? Who needs it more, and why do they need it more?

Are you a...girl?

I think you need it most. Lol j/k

There are nymphos from both sides, but I would still say men need it more. Why else in history and in modern days would men keep multiple wives/girlfriends? They need to feed their sexual needs.

Haha....no, I am a guy that knows of girls that always want sex



Yes and no. I find that while girls are definitely more likely to remain faithful, it's because they need to have the whole mind body connection thing going on. Alot of guys can do most things with a pulse and want to get as many notches on their belt as possible. From an evolutionary viewpoint, I guess you could say that girls remain faithful to increase the chances that they will be provided for, while guys want to spread their seeds as far as possible

I don't think "being provided for" is the basis of being faithful. Maybe, we just know how to really love our man. We don't have reasons to stray like men do. We don't have as many sexual needs as men do.

While I agree that guys have a more needs, they also have more avenues to satisfy their needs. While I only have a small sample size, every girl I've dated wanted it at least twice a day - normally once at night, one in the morning. They have all needed it more than me. It sounds really great in theory, but spending 1-2hrs everyday is a lot of time....especially if one can get similar end results in 10-20mins and have a busy schedule.

They we're not skanks or anything either, all had only been with me or one other. While they may not be as horny, they need a guy to help them out.

Sample size? I guess you have the Midas touch when it comes to sex huh.

Check the Kinsey report: there's a lot of variation in horniness in both sexes.

But...I think women are just as horny as men, but not as promiscuous (still like playing around but not as much). Women want to find an attractive mate who will also stick around to help raise kids, or else an attractive mate *and* a mate who will stick around. Men want to spread their seed as widely as possible...and eventually settle down and raise kids.

Common sense stuff...

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Men need multiple wives??
I guess it is because the sex is better when you're having more than one???


The basis for being faithful is true love and desire for one individual
Cheating or straying have no other reason than wanting to ... The person cheating .. wants to cheat

You're wrong about girls needing guys to get off. Girls get themselves (and each other) off better and far more frequently than men get them off. Reaching orgasm is more complicated for women as thete are more variables involved than there are for the average guy which is why many girls are left unsatisfied and have to get themselves off. Lets not forget the multitude of sex toys available for women that twist turn and stimulate far more at once than a man can.

That being said sex usually means more than just an orgasm for women. An orgasm releases oxytocin which makes girls mire lovey dovey after sex which results in them wanting to cuddle and talk. Although oxytocin is released in men as well it seems to have less of an effect than it does on women.

^You have my complete attention. Keep going, still copying n pasting.

Of course you have reasons to stray. They may be different from the reasons men stray, but that doesnt mean you dont have them. I also disagree with women not having as many sexual needs as men

While I agree that achieving the big O is alot harder for a women than a man, it doesn't mean that they are better at it than guys. Two of my horniest Exs claim to hardly ever masturbate (even when they were single) because they could rarely get themselves to come......these same girls wanted it twice a day. While they said it felt good, they could rarely ever get themselves across the line.

I know that they could have been lying to me to boost my ego, but their explanation also makes alot of sense. Getting across the line is more than just a bunch of movements, they need to be comfortable, in the mood, feel attractive, be attracted, be in love etc.

In short, the two most demanding girls that I've known have claimed that they could only ever get off during sex, which is why they were always so up for it months into a relationship. I'm not trying to say that I'm a sexgod or anything like that, merely believe that alot of girls find it alot easier to get off during sex than by themselves, and that I've been fortunate enough to meet some of them

Just had a quick thought on why girls need guys to get off. Girls need the complete love making experience, foreplay and kissing to get them horny, an emotional connection etc. Getting off is more than a rub here and an insert there, it needs to be an experienceo that can only be achieved with a partner......who has at least some idea of what they're doing and helps if they can go longer than 3mins

Did they use sex toys? Those make a considerable difference. By only getting off with guys are they meaning through sex only or through clit stimulation/fingers/oral? Google results say 75% of women cant orgasm through vaginal sex alone. For women to achieve orgasm, its more of a psychological thing than a physical thing. If you get all those factors right with a girl, then it works, but its far easier for a guy to mess up when there are multiple variables involved. A girl can make herself comfortable, knows when she's in the mood, feel attractive and provided she has a good imagination, fantasize about the rest.

Sex in a relationship is more of an intimacy thing for women than a getting off thing. I'd say guys need to get off less than women need to feel intimate.

They never used sextoys and I'm not too big of a fan of giving oral.....don't mind receiving

I don't know where this 75% figure comes from, but vaginal sex should always involve some clitoral simulation, so they shouldn't be receiving only vaginal simulation. Depending on the position, you can angle the penis graze the clit as it goes in and out, grind it against the public bone, or use your hands play around. Add to this possible G-Spot simulation, kissing and fondling. My guess (and experience) suggests that all that is more likely to send them over the edge than anything that they can do themselves

If they used sex toys, the results would be in favour of them getting off by themselves. Are you only including the time spent with you or are you including their experiences with their previous partners?

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75% through vaginal sex alone. The G-spot is what is stimulated through vaginal sex. Can't say I've hooked up with a Bi girl, but from all the accounts I've read, girls get girls off far better than men do because they know how women liked to be touched. You yourself may know what you are doing down there which is why the girls are getting off with you meaning they need to relieve themselves less often, but put a guy there who has no idea what he's doing and do you think you'd still get the same results?

I would never trust compliments about my performance because a girl would have to be pretty mean to say I don't stack up to previous partners. One of my Exs had sex pretty much everyday with her previous partner, so I guess she must have been enjoying it.

While I agree that agirls understand the female body better, they're also missing this important tool that has been genetically engineered to make girls orgasm.....it's called a penis. In this day of age, guys have little excuse to not know what they're doing as there's heaps of readily available information on the internet. If you can find out that 75% can't come from vaginal sex alone, then I'm sure you can also find information about what works. Guys that can't last long can also use other methods if they can be bothered and should be able to go a second round if they're still young. Alot of it comes down to motivation these days.....practice also helps

The penis wasnt genetically engineered to make girls orgasm, its there for reproduction and female orgasms play no part in reproduction. By not being able to cum from vaginal sex, that means it doesnt matter what you try, it wont work for them, not that you're doing something wrong.

Enjoying sex and reproduction really go hand in hand. If the penis wasn't wasn't designed to pleasure both guys and girls, then there would be no such thing as an orgams....for either party. Simple evolution theory, we enjoy sex, we have more sex, we have more babies. I would imagine that the human population would be extinct if girls didn't enjoy sex. In fact, Darwinism would say that it has evolved to better give pleasure girls as there would have been a strong correlation between pleasure and babies. More pleasure = more sex = more babies.

While I agree that some girls come alot easier than other girls, all girls are capable of it if all of the buttons are pressed correctly. Girls that find it harder to come would also have a lower appetite for sex and have less babies. While the difference may be slight over one generation, the effect would snowball over many generations

What I meant by my comment was that women seldom stray for sexual reasons.

The penis works as a delivery system for sperm, it wasnt designed for the females pleasure. Take a look at the animal kingdom, do you really think when animals mate they stick around to pleasure the female? Some species of mites dont even have vaginas, they have sex by traumatic insemination which pretty much means the males penis punctures the females body and dumps his load inside her. Another humourous example are flat worms. 2 flat worms penis fence, the loser is the one who is punctured by the other worm and then has to bare the offspring. There are very few species apart from humans that have sex for pleasure, the majority "mate out of the primal need to produce offspring and increase the genetic pool before they die". And even then it would be hard to tell whether or not the female is actually enjoying it or it only the male who initiates sex is being pleasured


Your evolution theory is off


Have you actually done some research or are you basing this on your own experiences?


Just because its hard for them to cum, doesnt mean they dont enjoy sex and definately doesnt result in less babies. The female orgasm is not a necessary reproduction tool. You're also assuming its an inherited characteristic, maybe some personal research with mother daughter duos is required?

If you can show me why the following doesn't hold true, then you have a valid argument, if not, you're just arguing your point.

Most species have various methods to encourage males and females to mate. It humans, it would appear that sexual pleasure is one the primary drivers of reproduction. (I'd also argue that sexual pleasure is linked to love)

So the more pleasure one gets from sex, the more likely they are to willingly participate, resulting in more sexual activities.

For women, there would be a strong positive correlation with orgams and sexual pleasure.

So more orgams => more sexual pleasure => greater desire for sex => more actual sex

While we may have a bucketload of controceptive devices today, they are quite new to when compared to our long human history.

So for the majority of human history, more sex => more babies

Assuming that parents pass on their genes to their children, girls should become better and better at orgasming, and guys should become better and better at giving their partner orgasms in successive generations.

As the penis the primary tool used to help girls achieve orgasms during sex, it has a long and proven track record, one that should only get better as time passes due to the 'crowding out effect' of people that enjoy sex more

I get off at least twice a day but I've been called an uncontrollable nympho several times. But I don't need a guy (or girl) to get me off; if my man isn't available, then I'll do it myself. No biggie.

Just as you are arguing YOUR point?


So what would these various incentives for other species be apart from their primal need to produce offspring? I dont believe pleasure is the reason for reproduction, reproduction is the reason for reproduction and pleasure is the reason sex for pleasure. Yes you will enjoy sex when you aim to reproduce, but what separates sex for pleasure from reproduction; that would be the goal of reproduction and therefore the primary driver of reproduction, not pleasure as you put it.


A lack of orgasm does not mean a lack of pleasure. You can enjoy sex and not orgasm. Hell i can count the number of times I've orgasmed through sex on 1 hand


Your logic. As before, a lack of orgasm does not mean a lack of pleasure and therefore a lesser desire for sex. What happens when there is great desire for sex, but the opportunity is unavailable? Like men, women will take care of themselves


For women, its inherited. For men, its all about knowing your partner and therefore not inherited.


Sex toys have a better track record as their engineered and only purpose is to achieve orgasms.


As we are digressing slightly I'll re state my points
- Simply put I think you place far too much importance on men in a woman's sex life. She knows her body best, what turns her on and how she likes to be touched. Unless there is an external factor affecting her, she should be able to achieve an orgasm 100% of the time. If there is an external factor (illness for example), then adding a man into the equation still wont increase the chances of orgasm. Think of having to drive to your own house. You know where it is, you have exact directions, you've been there countless times before and you know multiple routes there incase of roadworks along the way.

- For a guy to bring a woman to orgasm, he has to understand all the variables that need to be met. Unless there is good communication between the couple and she can describe what she likes to him, there will be no doubt a few variables he has to discover himself. Therefore, knowing only a portion of information means a reduced chance of orgasm. This would be equivalent to driving to your GF's house. The first time you go, you know where it is, however you dont know if you've been given complete or just partial directions. You can still get there, but your chances are lessened. If you've been there before, you'll know the route and chances of reaching the destination increase, however if there are unexpected roadworks or obstacles along your path, they will inhibit you. The more familiar you become with the route, the more you can test out other routes to get to her house incase there are roadworks or obstacles. This equates to variables not passed onto you.

- If there's no communication, you're kind of left in the deep end. Depending on the man he may employ trial and error, reaction or any other techniques he's developed to find out what she likes, however that still leads to a reduced chance of orgasm. Once again this is like being given your destination, and having to find your own way there hence a reduced chance. If you're a good navigator, you will utilize techniques you've used in the past to find out which route to take and may get there with little to no trouble. If you arent (once again dependent on the guy) then you may not even get close.

In other words a female orgasm depends first on the girl knowing what she likes, then her ability to communicate it to her partner and then her partners ability to make up any shortfalls.

I was never trying to say that there aren't alot of other factors involved, but the penis is the primary tool used during sex, and sexual pleasure is the primary incentive for females to want to have sex.

We can agree to disagree on this point, but it would be good to see what others think too.

"From my experience, girls need a guy if they're to get off, while guys can more readily do it themselves"

That is what my points are in relation to

You know it's true.

Damn, no wonder.

hell let's just day both gender are equally sexually active. Either might not admit to it, but we all know well enough