After reading a few discussions on Vietnamese chat about relationships between various nations in East Asia, I really began to think about just how much potential there is for the Japanese and Vietnamese people to really develop a strong bond with one another.

Firstly, when looking at our history you can see that both the Japanese and the Viets come from strong warrior stock. Now, I am in no way trying to advocate violence or say that warfare is good, but if you look at past events both Japan and Vietnam have a certain knack for being able to hold their own in the face of confrontation, both with the Vietnamese facing off against the Chinese armies and the French/Americans and Japan being the first Asian nation to conquer a European power (Russia). I think that this kind of strong spirit and determination really links our people together and can be translated into how we interact with one another. We are both very proud races of people, and I think our steadfastness and willpower could really become a force to be reckoned with if we were to combine forces, particularly in the face of possible aggression from nations such as the PRC. Our shared efforts could form one of the most powerful defensive alliances in the world if engineered correctly.

Secondly, from a modern perspective I think both Japan and Vietnam have much to offer each other in the economic and industrial fields. A lot of our technological gadgets come from the Japanese, and I believe that if our two nations were to really put our heads together Vietnam could stand to learn a lot from you guys
In exchange, Vietnam could offer our own rapidly emerging economy to the mix, as well as manpower from our relatively large workforce and natural recourses from our own land and territory in the Spratly Islands.

I think our people really have so much to gain from working together, that if a strong Vietnamese-Japanese alliance were formed, we could very well rise to be two of the most prosperous nations in the world.

What do you guys think?

The first Asian nation to conquer an European power was the Huns who established the Hungarian nation and invaded the Roman Empire.

When it comes to the Asiatic battlefield, the Vietnamese are good with defense while Mongolians are good with offense. Japan's warrior culture was mainly against other Japanese.

It does seem most Mongoloid countries are gaining up on China.
Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, Mongolia, etc. all seem to not like China very much.
I think it's just North Korea, Central Asia, and Northeast Indian separatists that get along with China.

That's true, what's messed up is in the US.. The Huns are portrayed as white most of the time in Hollywood. Most scholars agree that they were Asian though.

To quote a Mongolian guy on Youtube, "Why is Attila a white boy?"

That's what happens when original Asian Turkic people get conquered by Russia. The assimilated "Turkified" people of Hungary/Turkey are able to lay claim to the heritage of Turkic people without opposition. The Huns were the ancestors of Turkic people.

However, the collapse of the Soviet Union means some of these original Asian Turkic people have achieved independence. (i.e: Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan) It would be their job to defend their identity from being stolen by Turanists and Nordicists.

Sorry guys, but what does this conversation have to do with the topic I was trying to discuss? :P
Can we try to steer ourselves back on track to Viet-Japanese relations, not wether the Huns are white or not? XD

i think both japan and vietnam have much more to gain from china than from each other. and japan is more similar to china than to vietnam. vietnam is more similar to china than to japan.

oh and the true warrior race are the altaics. go attila and mehmet II!

turkeyfied.

In my history classes they made it seem like it was unclear of his ethnicity, like they were ashamed that the greatest European empire (except maybe Great Britain) was brought down by Asians. I wonder if all the metal bands who do songs about Attila realize he was Asian?

The OP is right. We have derailed the topic.

Anyway, I haven't seen a lot of interaction between Vietnamese and Japanese. I remember hearing a lot about how the Japanese see themselves as different from other Asians but that could be back when Japan was the only developed Asian country.

Well, I used to get along reasonably well with Japanese kids back in high school (and these were real Japanese, not American born.) I think there might still be a bit of prejudice towards other Asians in some areas of the country, but in most of the major cities I think the Japanese population is pretty open minded about developing relationships with the rest of the continent (as long as it's not China). If this mindset is the same for politicians, then hopefully there might be a future for Vietnam and Japan to start working together...

Japanese exchange students have no problems with me. I have lots of places to stay at in Japan, Korea and CHina weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Well, Vietnam is basically the Southeast counterpart of Japan or Vietnam can also be considered Japan of Southeast Asia.

Both Vietnam and Japan fought major wars against the Americans.
Both Vietnam and Japan have excellent food.
both Vietnam and Japan have beautiful girls.

both ethnicities are short too LOL

Lack of nutrition is the problem. That problem is being fixed though.

Yes, I know. Went back to Vietnam, I'm at least 10cm taller than the average dude

true that

Vietnam and Japan could be long lost cousins.

ur connections are distant. ur (and the japanese) immediate cousins, whether u like it or not, are the chinese

u got my point buddy. haha

I support you. many countries get in ways for our cooperation.

Image of future vietnam is like today's south korea or taiwan, and japan.
japan is good for helping and technology transfer by OEM , outsourcing.

vietnam can help japan too in many ways.

friendship is good.

Good post. There should be more cultural exchanges and language studies. Many Japanese like Vietnam and Vietnamese like Japan, too. The government can support Japanese companies training workers with modern habbits. However it's probably best to stay out of territory disputes.

You're only saying this because you are vietnamese, Im japanese and I detest from this if you really looked it up, most Japanese think they are the better asian, some of them even don't even consider themselves asian because they believe they are too wise.

But I detest to this, you say "prosperous nations in the world."
What do you mean you want to take over the world, like USA?
Such ignorance you cant have "all high powers" The world will be unstable, even USA needs to depend on other countries

This is why I hate vietnamese.

And vietnamese think they are like everyone when all they do is copy Korean and everyone else.

If you are a Japanese, can you write down some sentences in Japanese, please?

copy korean and everone else? where are your sources? are you supposed to say this to china? even chinese copy from us... wow i have to add this info to my note
Your post is really entertainment, i really appreciate that
now waiting for some real Japanese go into here and claim if he's truly a Japanese as my intuition aready tells that you're a fake (talking about my Intuition, i'm a lefty and you should know what it means)
let's see what i found with the name grimga

some Japanese worshiper? enough to make me sick =))
saying japanese and vietnamese like he knows everything about asian, his information did surprise me of how incorrect it is. Guess we have to move along, another Japanese/asian wannabe...another troll as always...this 4rum surely becomes hot..

Would you mind elaborating on that?

more ignorance. So what if you are a lefty I might as well call you a devils child because that's what people of some religions call leftys. Im mixed with white. and lastly I live in Boston, looks like I have a stalker

you are just half asian and white, so what makes you think you are even an asian? just because you have some blood in your vein? you was simply born and raised in western so you have no idea what asian is, what our culture, belief...rather you just learn its through western propaganda. Barging in our topic with traditional japanese here and spoiling thing like you know everything about a real Japanese and Vietnamese? and i was right, you are not an asian but rather a mix..you should learn to respect asian cultures and people...honestly, i don't like white people.
lefty - evil? where did you learn that antique belief? aren't u raised in western? ok so here you are bashing lefty people. There are alot of lefty who are success in real life such as Obama and few other presidents, historical figures such as Leonardo Da Vinci...etc. Your picture looks like an adolescent to me, you'd better learn more about the world before assuming your ignorance,kid.

I dont like white people either, but I bet you are using this whole "im left handed $hit" if thats the case you know its proven left handers die faster than right handers, I live in Japan sometime of my life, so shut the fu-k up if you dont know something about everyone, if you ask me I believe you are trolling.

Only trolls use multiple user names like you are doing.

Tsk tsk i should just stay on hackforums.net thats a real site where they will rip you a new @$$hole.
btw for your stupid @$$ read these facts.

www.theworldofstuff.com/lefty/

I'm not trolling kid, my last post was touching something with chinese so i got banned
oh here you are, show your the true immaturity self of yours ? go on ahead you said like as if i was in your peer and i should be scared of you ? surely i don't have times for you kid, waste of my time..
don't you realize you have nothing to do here kid? this topic is about relationship between japanese and vietnamese and you seem don't know anything...sure come into here bashing like "i'm a japanese (you're not even a Japanese...), i'm wise...and you vietname copy copy" lol who is the troll here? nobody here would comment on you since we know it's useless except me maybe...i feel free to do it..

sorry mate, it's not so comfortable to chat here if you don't mind sending me message. I'm not talking about copying culture...but rather than some contemporary issue on product...
and btw why did i got banned by the last post? need some explainations...

Lol. You just dont get it haha and apperently you do have time if you keep replying to my post, im not a kid lol keep trolling im done talking your ignorance makes me laugh so there fore all i have to say is
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So what if im mixed you are not asian I can tell. your ignorance truly shows it so therefore I am done speaking.
I do not fear you either because you are a joke, someone with no life.
Good bye

And I will be mature about this and leave your immature @$$ to prob leave some stupid post because the mature ones walk away and youre the one thats stalking me child

makes no sense. fu-king idiot learn some engrish lmao

what's wrong with me learning english here? are you trying to troll? show me which of my statements are wrong in grammar? you are surely a stubborn kid. Do you think i'm the same as you inferior adolescent? i already went to university here in New York and graduated, don't you think you should watch your limit? go learn some nihon kid..you don't even know what it is when Pochi asked..Taking the point that i know japanese so that will make me better than your inferrior, kid? i wouldn't be so arrogant to be put me down on your level. <= here is how i troll you kid

Cough cough not trolling I dont think you understand trolling, im only trolling because you wont shut up.



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wow really appreciate your posts kid, really made me laugh as usual. Taking your time back here to read my post still? i thought you was already gone =)) oh my...what are you, kid?

Culturally we are close to chinese than to Japanese. However i see OP POV cause i am also vietnamese. With the situation we are in now, everyone is trying to gang up on China. And China deserves this because China has been aggressive lately on the sea.

To me, i am not an advocate of war. And i am not saying war is not impossible, especially a war between vietnam and china on the east sea.

Vietnam government is too wise to lean to only one direction. Admitting both people have strong traditions of wars, vietnamese are known to be flexible. Vietnam is easing things down with China and at the same time, increasing cooperation with countries like U.S and India.

Because the ww2 atrocities were not fell as much in vietnam as in china or korea, vietnam and japan have been in good relationship in modern time. I think as much as vietnam wants to cooperate with Japan, vietnam wants to diversify their relationships with different countries in the world. Even a tone down stance now with China already helps

My aunt's husband is a Japanese guy. My cousin just married a Japanese American girl. Both couples are happy with their choices. So yes, Vietnamese and Japanese can get along. In America, I think we are the only two groups without any hostility towards each other. Let's keep it this way.