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KhmerBoi
[...Thai academic and media circles seem to have agreed with the military’s idea of national security and interest. They did not question the secret nature of the information provided by the concerned government agencies. The Thai public tends to accept that because foreign affairs is highly sensitive and concerned with the national interest the information is to be kept highly confidential among specialists only.

The Thai elite’s perceptions of the impact of the Cambodian conflict on national security issues was also a reason why the policy received strong public support. In a 1985 survey of the Thai elite’s perceptions, almost all respondents (over 98 percent) saw Vietnam as a threat to Thailand’s national security. Vietnam also ranked high in many forms of threat, including direct military invasion, political subversion, undermining of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations’s regional solidarity, and support of military aggression by other countries. The majority of respondents (almost 60%) also felt that the Vietnamese occupation of Cambodia produced a grave impact on Thailand’s security, while 38% saw the impact in a lesser light. Most agreed that the impacts came in various forms, including armed tension along the Thai-Cambodian border, transformation of Kampuchea into a base for threatening Thailand’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, aggravation of regional tension and intensification of superpower rivalry in Southeast Asia. In addition, 98% of the respondents rejected the notion of acquiescence to the Vietnamese military occupation in Cambodia as an acceptable outcome. Most of the Thai elite also considered Vietnam’s patron, the Soviet Union, a threat to Thailand’s security. The Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia had exacerbated a historical agony between the Thai and the Vietnamese. Both of them had tried to dominate Cambodia and Laos since the eighteenth century.

The attitude of the population of one country towards another is also an important basis for its foreign policy. The standard text books on Thai history, at both school and university levels, usually begin with the migration of the Thai race from the North to the Chaophraya River basin, where the Khom, or Khmer, had earlier settled. Then the Thais, under capable leaders, were soon able to drive off the Khmer from the river basin. The rapid expansion of the Thai kingdom finally brought down Cambodia’s Angkorean Empire, forcing the Cambodians to move their capitals southward, from Angkor to Lovek, Udong, and Phnom Penh respectively.

A new interpretation by a Western scholar arguing that the southward movement of the Cambodian capitals tended to be influenced by the changing economic environment- as the maritime trade in the region became increasingly important to the post-Angkorean statecraft,- has not been welcomed by Thai scholars. Perhaps, such interpretations do not go well with the notion of the greatest Thai kingdom, successfully bringing down the Angkorean empire.

Moreover, Thai popular history books by amateur historians describe Cambodia as a subordinate, untrustworthy neighbor, often shifting its loyalty between the Thai and the Vietnamese courts. Cambodia sought to attack Siam whenever the Thai kingdom was facing trouble. The classic case with which the Thais have been familiar was the execution of Cambodian King Lovek, known as Phraya Lavek in Thai, by the Ayudhyan King Narasuen. The Thai chronicles tell of King Lovek, who had raided and evacuated villagers in the Siamese eastern border while King Narasuen was occupied by war with Burma. King Narasuen decided to take revenge on Cambodia. The Thai chronicles depicted a dramatic execution of Phraya Lovek. The Thai king mercilessly beheaded the Cambodian king and washed his feet with the latter’s blood. It was considered the act of contempt for the enemy. In fact, however, evidence from Western missionaries reveals that the execution never happened. The Cambodian king was able to take refuge in southern Laos. However, this Thai version of the King Lovek story still dominates the general understanding of Thai-Cambodian relations among average Thais. The wars and chaos in Cambodia have always been described as the fault of untrustworthy and factional Cambodia rulers, while the Thai invasions were interpreted as based on rights to control their tributary state and/or to prevent Cambodia from Vietnamization.

Such historiography has enhanced a nationalistic feeling of a great nation with a great history in comparison to its neighboring countries. On the other hand, it has depicted Cambodia, and of course Laos, as inferior nations. This leads to the question of the situation of Indochinese studies in general, and Cambodian studies in particular in Thailand. Perhaps, the perception of Indochinese countries, as poor, inferior countries with little business potential, has dictated the direction of area studies in Thailand. In contrast to American, European and Japanese studies, which dominated international studies in Thailand for three decades, Indochina is much less attractive to Thai academics as a field of study. Thus, the situation of Indochinese studies in Thailand now is not much different from what Charnvit Kasetsiri described in 1991, when he asserted that Thai academic institutions so far have not yet paid enough attention to Southeast Asia as a study area. He wrote that "despite the fact that Thailand belongs to the area, there is no serious attempt to pursue such study. The Thai government, elite and academic specialists, know very little of the economies, politics, society and culture of its neighbors, without mentioning further away Southeast Asian countries." Charnvit further noted that in Thailand only Silpakorn University offered an M.A. Program in the field of Southeast Asian History, while the Institute of Asian Studies at Chulalongkorn and the East Asian Studies Institute at Thammasat University, which have concentrated on China and Japan, are primarily research institutions.

Thus, nationalistic attitudes and ignorance became an obstacle for Thailand to develop a constructive policy towards neighboring countries both during and after the Cold War. With national interest, politically and economically, as the most important priority, Thailand’s foreign policy towards the Khmer Rouge simply bypassed Cambodia’s human cost and tragedy.

For two decades already, Thailand has thrown clandestine support behind the Khmer Rouge group, ever since the murderous regime was overthrown by the Vietnamese forces. It is thus timely to examine the relationship between Thailand and the Khmer Rouge. This study will therefore examine Thailand’s policy towards the Khmer Rouge from 1975 to the early 1990s. It will focus on the response of Thai governments as well as the perspectives of various Thai political groups on the crimes committed by the Khmer Rouge....]

More .. pls click on the link here: http://www.yale.edu/gsp/publications/ThailandResponse.html
GoBears
Is there any thoughts from the Cambodian intellectuals, the King, PM to start a war wtih Thailand and take back some lost territories?
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (GoBears @ Oct 17 2011, 06:53 PM) *
Is there any thoughts from the Cambodian intellectuals, the King, PM to start a war wtih Thailand and take back some lost territories?


Cambodia have intellectuals? lol just kidding

Do you really think Cambodia could survive a war with Thailand?

Thailand is ranked 19th in the world military ranking. Cambodia can barely survive without foreign aid in peace times. Think about it.
Suriin1234
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 17 2011, 07:08 PM) *
Cambodia have intellectuals? lol just kidding

Do you really think Cambodia could survive a war with Thailand?

Thailand is ranked 19th in the world military ranking. Cambodia can barely survive without foreign aid in peace times. Think about it.


It's possible cambodia could survive, but I thought the battle would take place in thai soil. . The USA thought vietnam war would be a easy victory, but ended up 30years of war and spread through nutrual countries.
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (Suriin1234 @ Oct 18 2011, 12:14 AM) *
It's possible cambodia could survive, but I thought the battle would take place in thai soil. . The USA thought vietnam war would be a easy victory, but ended up 30years of war and spread through nutrual countries.


lol think about it. Both countries are accustomed to fighting in the jungle. America was not.

Thai Army outnumbers Cambodias army many times over. Even if every 2 Thai die for every 1 Cambodian, there would still be plenty more.

Technology wise, we could bomb your cities without having to cross the border. We have a proper air force. We have a superior Navy. If Thailand decided to create a no fly zone, block off all trade routes via sea. Cambodia will starve. No need to fight when you can just wait until Cambodia surrenders from starvation.

If all out war broke out, It would be over VERY quickly. There just isn't a chance in Hell Cambodia has of winning a war with Thailand. This is purely judging from the logistics. Hell economically Cambodia is barely able to sustain itself, where will you get the money to buy arms? lol

Cambodia winning a war against Thailand is a fantasy. Pride does not win wars.
Suriin1234
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 17 2011, 07:21 PM) *
lol think about it. Both countries are accustomed to fighting in the jungle. America was not.

Thai Army outnumbers Cambodias army many times over. Even if every 2 Thai die for every 1 Cambodian, there would still be plenty more.

Technology wise, we could bomb your cities without having to cross the border. We have a proper air force. We have a superior Navy. If Thailand decided to create a no fly zone, block off all trade routes via sea. Cambodia will starve. No need to fight when you can just wait until Cambodia surrenders from starvation.

If all out war broke out, It would be over VERY quickly. There just isn't a chance in Hell Cambodia has of winning a war with Thailand. This is purely judging from the logistics. Hell economically Cambodia is barely able to sustain itself, where will you get the money to buy arms? lol

Cambodia winning a war against Thailand is a fantasy. Pride does not win wars.


Well thinking about it now we would probably lose since our military is corrupted and we haven't bought any new aquipment also cambodia is still recovering from the decades of war... eh oh well.
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (GoBears @ Oct 18 2011, 12:53 AM) *
Is there any thoughts from the Cambodian intellectuals, the King, PM to start a war wtih Thailand and take back some lost territories?

Nope, that not how Cambodian educated. We learn to protect what we have. That what ourKing and Preminister said to public too... But some Cambodian author writing book to let us remember how our land was loss. Cambodian Government have no enough power right now to help those Khmer Krom who seeking for independence.. Because they are Mahayana Buddhism then they are probably non-violence.
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 18 2011, 06:08 AM) *
Cambodia have intellectuals? lol just kidding

Do you really think Cambodia could survive a war with Thailand?

Thailand is ranked 19th in the world military ranking. Cambodia can barely survive without foreign aid in peace times. Think about it.


If you want, you can try it!!! Imagine how Vietnamese Won in the American war!! U just like a frog in the welt!!!
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (Suriin1234 @ Oct 18 2011, 06:57 AM) *
Well thinking about it now we would probably lose since our military is corrupted and we haven't bought any new aquipment also cambodia is still recovering from the decades of war... eh oh well.

Lolzz Surin1234 let them imagine!!! they are too young to think about War!!! It sound easy for them!!!! Lolzzz They can't imaging how the war will exploded!!!
Suriin1234
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 17 2011, 08:30 PM) *
Lolzz Surin1234 let them imagine!!! they are too young to think about War!!! It sound easy for them!!!! Lolzzz They can't imaging how the war will exploded!!!

But the thing is our military is corrupted... there payed like 100riel a month!
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (Suriin1234 @ Oct 18 2011, 07:37 AM) *
But the thing is our military is corrupted... there payed like 100riel a month!


Man, that okay!!!! We prepare for that.. we are not alone.. I think the the recent dispute with Thailand is also at some point it compromise our Military.. Some of those corrupted people got fire.. Believe me, My Brother is one of high ranging.. I can say we probably win if we pushed by Thailand into war.. but not we push them!!! Remember we are not alone but Thai is alone maybe American can help them?? But we have a experience enough with American!!! Don't we?? Lolzzz Thailand will going to that direction... you can read the history of Khmer Rough... and make a comparison to which Thailand is on their way right now~ But I guess if they are smart enough should be alright!!! Their people know so little about this!!!
NoKhmen
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 17 2011, 06:21 PM) *
lol think about it. Both countries are accustomed to fighting in the jungle. America was not.

Thai Army outnumbers Cambodias army many times over. Even if every 2 Thai die for every 1 Cambodian, there would still be plenty more.

Technology wise, we could bomb your cities without having to cross the border. We have a proper air force. We have a superior Navy. If Thailand decided to create a no fly zone, block off all trade routes via sea. Cambodia will starve. No need to fight when you can just wait until Cambodia surrenders from starvation.

If all out war broke out, It would be over VERY quickly. There just isn't a chance in Hell Cambodia has of winning a war with Thailand. This is purely judging from the logistics. Hell economically Cambodia is barely able to sustain itself, where will you get the money to buy arms? lol

Cambodia winning a war against Thailand is a fantasy. Pride does not win wars.


We already did!

Remember those Khmen bastards burnt Thai embassy? We sent airplanes to Pochentong airport (in Phnom Penh) , to bring Thai citizens back. Khmer bastards could do nothing but looking at Thai airplanes landed in their Cambodian soil. That time we have F16s standed by in Korat, near northern part of Cambodia, and in Chakrinaruebes aircraft carrier in Thailand gulf near Koh Kong, southern part of Cambodia. We hade alternative plan called Pochentong2, to bomb Phnom Penh, in case these bastards made trouble to Thais at their airport.

And this event occurred when Taksin was in power. That's why you can see Khmen Hunsen is afraid of Taksin so bad. Hunsen responded everything Taksin had asked, and He becomes Taksin's best friend now. LOL

แผนโปเชนตง 1
การปฏิบัติการตามแผน "โปเชนตง1" และ "โปเชนตง 2" ในรายละเอียด ก็เกิดขึ้นที่สนามบิน โดยมีเครื่องบิน G-222 จำนวน 1 ลำ และเครื่องบิน C-130 อีก 5 ลำเตรียมพร้อมรับคนไทยกลับบ้าน โดยมี พล.อ.อ.ระเด่น พึ่งพักตร์ ผบ.หน่วยบัญชาการยุทธทางอากาศ (ผบ.บยอ.) เป็นผู้บัญชาการการปฏิบัติตามแผน ที่ทำให้เขาได้กลับมาสวมชุดนักบินขับไล่อีกครั้ง โดยทำหน้าที่เป็นผู้บัญชาการกองบัญชาการลอยฟ้า บนเครื่องบิน G-222 ที่จะลอยลำอยู่กลางเวหา เหนือเกาะกง ของกัมพูชา เพื่อบัญชาการและติดต่อสื่อสารกับบิ๊กบ๊อบ พล.ท.อ.คธาทิพย์ กุญชร ณ อยุธยา รอง ผบ.บยอ. เป็นผู้บัญชาการภาคพื้น คุมเครื่องบิน C-130 ทั้ง 5 ลำ ที่ต้องลงจอด โดยมี พล.อ.วิชิต ยาทิพย์ เป็นผู้ประสานงานติดต่อกัมพูชา อำนวยการเดินทางด้วยตนเองเพื่อรับคนไทยชุดแรก 511 คน กลับบ้านพร้อมด้วยคำสั่งให้เครื่องบิน F-16 ของกองบิน 1 โคราช เตรียมพร้อมสำหรับแผน "โปเชนตง" หากเกิดเหตุรุนแรงและฉุกเฉินขึ้นภายในไม่เกิน 20 นาที ก็จะถึงที่หมาย

เวลา 05.15 น. เครื่องบิน C-130 ลำแรกก็ทะยานขึ้นฟ้า มุ่งสู่สนามบินโปเชนตง กลางกรุงพนมเปญ ติดตามด้วยลำที่ 2, 3, 4, 5 ที่มีคอมมานโดและหน่วยรบพิเศษ กระจายกันอยู่ทุกลำ และตามด้วย G-222 ที่เป็น บก.ลอยฟ้า โดยมี พล.อ.สุรยุทธ์ และ พล.อ.อ.คงศักดิ์ มานั่งบัญชาการอยู่ที่ศูนย์ปฏิบัติการกองทัพอากาศ โดยตลอดแผน "โปเชนตง 1" เตรียมไว้สำหรับเหตุการณ์ปกติ โดยเครื่องบิน C-130 ทั้ง 5 ลำ ที่ลงจอดนั้น จะไม่มีการดับเครื่อง ในระหว่างนั้นหน่วยคอมมานโดและทหารรบพิเศษ รวม 110 คน พร้อมอาวุธครบมือ และเป้สนาม และรถฮัมวี่ ก็วิ่งลงจากเครื่องบิน ออกกระจายโดยรอบสนามบินโปเชนตง เพื่อรักษาความปลอดภัย ในขณะที่คนไทยก็
เรียงแถวตอน 1 ขึ้นเครื่อง โดยมีเจ้าหน้าที่ตรวจนับจำนวนแบบรวดเร็ว

แผนโปเชนตง 2 กรณีแผนหนึ่งมีปัญหา
ส่วนแผน "โปเชนตง 2" นั้น เตรียมไว้สำหรับเกิดเหตุรุนแรง เนื่องจากในค่ำนั้น มีการข่าวรายงานว่าม็อบในกรุงพนมเปญ ซึ่งรับชมข่าวและการรายงานสดทางโทรทัศน์ของไทยได้ล่ว งรู้ว่ารัฐบาลไทยจะส่งเครื่องบินมารับคนไทย จึงมีแผนการซื้อน้ำมันเพื่อมาเผาโดยรอบสนามบิน ทำให้ พล.อ.วิชิต ต้องประสานกับ พล.อ.เตีย บันห์ รมว.กลาโหมกัมพูชา เพื่อนำกำลังทหารมาดูแลโดยรอบสนามบินโปเชนตงเอาไว้แต ่กระนั้นหน่วยคอมมานโดและรบพิเศษก็ไม่ประมาท เตรียมพร้อมรับทุกสถานการณ์

โดยเฉพาะอาจจะต้องถล่มพนมเปญ เพื่อช่วยคนไทยกลับบ้าน จึงไม่แปลกที่ทหารรบพิเศษและหน่วยคอมมานโดทุกคนจะมีเ ป้สนามติดหลังที่ไม่เพียงมีอาวุธและกระสุนเท่านั้น แต่ยังมีอุปกรณ์ยังชีพเผื่อว่าจะต้องอยู่ในพนมเปญมาก กว่า 1 วันโดยที่เครื่องบินรบบนเรือหลวงจักรีนฤเบศร ที่ลอยลำรออยู่และเครื่อง F-16 ที่เตรียมพร้อมในที่ตั้งพร้อมจะมาสมทบ เพราะงานนี้ พ.ต.ท.ทักษิณ ไฟเขียวไว้แล้ว ให้ทำทุกอย่างเพื่อปกป้องชีวิตและทรัพย์สินของไทยแต่ โชคดีที่งานนี้ไม่ต้องใช้แผน "โปเชนตง 2" เมื่อทุกอย่างเป็นไปอย่างเรียบร้อย โดยมี พล.อ.เตีย บันห์ รมว.กลาโหมเขมรที่พูดภาษาไทยคล่องปรื๋อ ส่งทหารมาดูแลสนามบินให
NoKhmen
Are Khmer civilized Angkorean Varman?

I think not!
NoKhmen
Funny thing is they try so hard to put Thailand with Khmer Rouge. To blame Thailand on their own stupid false. What's the fuk are you people? I think Cambo gov teach their kids in school about this lies. Nobody can kill Khmer but Khmer themselves. Like the French master said. Khmer can't rule themselves, and it's so true. After they got independence from France, they started to kill each other. Khmer slaves have no brain, they always be like savage slaves, kill everyone even they speak same Khmer language. LOL

Bingbing5555
I wonder what it would be like if Vietnam goes to war with Thailand? lol
NoKhmen
QUOTE (Bingbing5555 @ Oct 17 2011, 08:25 PM) *
I wonder what it would be like if Vietnam goes to war with Thailand? lol


It's always Laos and Cambodia to be our playground. embarassedlaugh.gif
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 17 2011, 08:26 PM) *
It's always Laos and Cambodia to be our playground. embarassedlaugh.gif


I want to see blood spill between Vietnam and Thailand. embarassedlaugh.gif It happen all the time between Laos and Thailand border 4 decade ago. LOL! I think the Thai give up fighting and avoided any Lao confrontation.
NoKhmen
QUOTE (Bingbing5555 @ Oct 17 2011, 08:30 PM) *
I want to see blood spill between Vietnam and Thailand. embarassedlaugh.gif It happen all the time between Laos and Thailand border 4 decade ago. LOL! I think the Thai give up fighting and avoided any Lao confrontation.


It's same old Laoscambodian song, isn't it?

Lao and Khmer always beg help from Thai and Viet. You guys love making civil wars in Laos and Camboland. When somebody lost they askes help from Thai or Viet. You lil savages, war hungry b!tches. embarassedlaugh.gif
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 18 2011, 01:27 AM) *
If you want, you can try it!!! Imagine how Vietnamese Won in the American war!! U just like a frog in the welt!!!


I've studied the vietnam war lol I know exactly why the Viets won. And I know for a fact that Cambodia will not be able to do what the Viets can.

Thailand is next door to cambodia. Not half way round the world dumbass. Thai forces know how to fight in the environment of SEA.

Your such a retard lol Khmer pride isn't going to be worth $hit lol if war breaks out it will be a no brainer victory for Thailand seeing as how many retarded Khmers there are. No need to aim the guns, you retards will just walk into the bullet icon_smile.gif
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 17 2011, 08:39 PM) *
It's same old Laoscambodian song, isn't it?

Lao and Khmer always beg help from Thai and Viet. You guys love making civil wars in Laos and Camboland. When somebody lost they askes help from Thai or Viet. You lil savages, war hungry b!tches. embarassedlaugh.gif

When did us peaceful Laos ever made Civil war with our neighbors? We are the only people who rather see peace in the region for our neighbors and to be treated with respect that's all. Don't blame us for you're own problems we have no power or strength for such insane action that you mention.
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (Bingbing5555 @ Oct 18 2011, 02:43 AM) *
When did us peaceful Laos ever made Civil war with our neighbors? We are the only people who rather see peace in the region for our neighbors and to be treated with respect that's all. Don't blame us for you're own problems we have no power or strength for such insane action that you mention.


civil war is war made on your own people dumbass. When Laos PDR tried to take over Laos, your king asked us for help and we sent help. You Laosy refugee's don't know what gratitude is. We tried to help defend your country and this is how you repay the Thai people.

Both Laos and Cambodia always ask for Thai help when you commit war on your own people. And you act like Thailand is the enemy lol you people should look in the mirror. You cause your own problems. You should fix them yourselves. Laos and Cambodia is like a nation of children, always expect everyone else to clean up their $hit.

Bingbing5555
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 17 2011, 08:50 PM) *
civil war is war made on your own people dumbass. When Laos PDR tried to take over Laos, your king asked us for help and we sent help. You Laosy refugee's don't know what gratitude is. We tried to help defend your country and this is how you repay the Thai people.

Both Laos and Cambodia always ask for Thai help when you commit war on your own people. And you act like Thailand is the enemy lol you people should look in the mirror. You cause your own problems. You should fix them yourselves. Laos and Cambodia is like a nation of children, always expect everyone else to clean up their $hit.


That is not true. I think we Lao people have a lot of respect for Thailand in many ways too. That is why our relationship are moderate, unlike you're Khmer neighbors. Don't take internet too seriously Ai kwai Sabaisaba. I was only seeing how you would react that's all. icon_smile.gif
NoKhmen
QUOTE (Bingbing5555 @ Oct 17 2011, 08:43 PM) *
When did us peaceful Laos ever made Civil war with our neighbors? We are the only people who rather see peace in the region for our neighbors and to be treated with respect that's all. Don't blame us for you're own problems we have no power or strength for such insane action that you mention.


Go read your own history. It's full of Lao nobles' greedy. You always made civil wars in Laos. That's why Lanxang became 3 kingdoms. Those 3 Lao kingdoms killed each others, Lao thug king Vienchan invaded Lao Champasak kingdom. Then Champasak took refuge to Siam. Siamese king taught your thug king a be-good lesson, and your king an away asking help from Viet king. LOL
NoKhmen
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 17 2011, 08:50 PM) *
civil war is war made on your own people dumbass. When Laos PDR tried to take over Laos, your king asked us for help and we sent help. You Laosy refugee's don't know what gratitude is. We tried to help defend your country and this is how you repay the Thai people.

Both Laos and Cambodia always ask for Thai help when you commit war on your own people. And you act like Thailand is the enemy lol you people should look in the mirror. You cause your own problems. You should fix them yourselves. Laos and Cambodia is like a nation of children, always expect everyone else to clean up their $hit.


You say it all. biggthumpup.gif
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 18 2011, 08:50 AM) *
civil war is war made on your own people dumbass. When Laos PDR tried to take over Laos, your king asked us for help and we sent help. You Laosy refugee's don't know what gratitude is. We tried to help defend your country and this is how you repay the Thai people.

Both Laos and Cambodia always ask for Thai help when you commit war on your own people. And you act like Thailand is the enemy lol you people should look in the mirror. You cause your own problems. You should fix them yourselves. Laos and Cambodia is like a nation of children, always expect everyone else to clean up their $hit.

Sometime in the history.. when Khmer King, have closely friendship with Vietnamese, Siam King sent troop to threaten our King. U guy took Khmer Royal sword and other Royal important thing to bangcock!!! So that mean to keep our king under Siam influence!!! U r evil!!!!
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 17 2011, 09:11 PM) *
Go read your own history. It's full of Lao nobles' greedy. You always made civil wars in Laos. That's why Lanxang became 3 kingdoms. Those 3 Lao kingdoms killed each others, Lao thug king Vienchan invaded Lao Champasak kingdom. Then Champasak took refuge to Siam. Siamese king taught your thug king a be-good lesson, and your king an away asking help from Viet king. LOL


I think we should move forward, rather then backward. And you think those history are effective?
NoKhmen
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 17 2011, 09:14 PM) *
Sometime in the history.. when Khmer King, have closely friendship with Vietnamese, Siam King sent troop to threaten our King. U guy took Khmer Royal sword and other Royal important thing to bangcock!!! So that mean to keep our king under Siam influence!!! U r evil!!!!


You have to admit that it's your own false to have 2 group of Khmer, pro-Siamese and pro-Viet Khmers in Khmer court. It's your own power greedy. Not Thai or Viet. you have been asking for it, until today. It's the same song.
NoKhmen
QUOTE (Bingbing5555 @ Oct 17 2011, 09:16 PM) *
I think we should move forward, rather then backward. And you think those history are effective?


Like father Like son. You Laoscambodian never change a bit. embarassedlaugh.gif
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 18 2011, 09:11 AM) *
Go read your own history. It's full of Lao nobles' greedy. You always made civil wars in Laos. That's why Lanxang became 3 kingdoms. Those 3 Lao kingdoms killed each others, Lao thug king Vienchan invaded Lao Champasak kingdom. Then Champasak took refuge to Siam. Siamese king taught your thug king a be-good lesson, and your king an away asking help from Viet king. LOL


Because Lao King realize your Siam evil Brain!! just like Khmer King back to Cambodia and fight back to the Siam!!!
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 17 2011, 09:18 PM) *
Like father Like son. You Laoscambodian never change a bit. embarassedlaugh.gif


What are you talking about? I said we should move forward. You think we really care what we did in the past? LMAO! Unlike you Thai who look in the past too much.
NoKhmen
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 17 2011, 09:21 PM) *
Because Lao King realize your Siam evil Brain!! just like Khmer King back to Cambodia and fight back to the Siam!!!


When you learn history. You have to put your nationalism outside. embarassedlaugh.gif

Thai-Lao conflict wars started by Lao kill Lao. The runaway Lao is ancestor of Thai Isan people today. The thug Lao are those in Laos today. Thai or Siamese was just the helper to Isan ancestors. They came to Siamese court and asked for help. Thai/Siamese never be the one who started war with Lao. It's Lao kill Lao, same as Khmer kill Khmer, that made us involved to your own mess. beerchug.gif
NoKhmen
QUOTE (Bingbing5555 @ Oct 17 2011, 09:25 PM) *
What are you talking about? I said we should move forward. You think we really care what we did in the past? LMAO! Unlike you Thai who look in the past too much.


Like I said. Like father like son, you are acting like your own past history. beerchug.gif
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 17 2011, 09:44 PM) *
Like I said. Like father like son, you are acting like your own past history. beerchug.gif


That is not true. I asked you to move forward and you insist me to look back in our history. You're such a hypocrite. LMAO Why don't you make up you're dam mind? embarassedlaugh.gif
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 17 2011, 09:42 PM) *
When you learn history. You have to put your nationalism outside. embarassedlaugh.gif

Thai-Lao conflict wars started by Lao kill Lao. The runaway Lao is ancestor of Thai Isan people today. The thug Lao are those in Laos today. Thai or Siamese was just the helper to Isan ancestors. They came to Siamese court and asked for help. Thai/Siamese never be the one who started war with Lao. It's Lao kill Lao, same as Khmer kill Khmer, that made us involved to your own mess. beerchug.gif


Thai kill Thai too. So don't denied that you retard.
NoKhmen
QUOTE (Bingbing5555 @ Oct 17 2011, 09:53 PM) *
Thai kill Thai too. So don't denied that you retard.


That's not the point. The point is Lao and Khmer made their own civil wars, and you people were divided to pro-Siam and pro-Vietnam. It's not Thai or Viet false, It's your own Laoscambodian. beerchug.gif
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 17 2011, 10:00 PM) *
That's not the point. The point is Lao and Khmer made their own civil wars, and you people were divided to pro-Siam and pro-Vietnam. It's not Thai or Viet false, It's your own Laoscambodian. beerchug.gif


I think we are all friends within the Asean Community. I think you need to learn how to forgive and forget. beerchug.gif
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 18 2011, 09:16 AM) *
You have to admit that it's your own false to have 2 group of Khmer, pro-Siamese and pro-Viet Khmers in Khmer court. It's your own power greedy. Not Thai or Viet. you have been asking for it, until today. It's the same song.

Again, Just want to remind you that we Khmer always blame our self first of other... but if you guys think you are right!!! yeah that how it work!! but Khmer in this generation is difference!!! Man!!!
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 18 2011, 04:57 AM) *
Again, Just want to remind you that we Khmer always blame our self first of other... but if you guys think you are right!!! yeah that how it work!! but Khmer in this generation is difference!!! Man!!!


Always blame yourself first? lol funny that. Thats not exactly the picture Khmers paint to the world. According to Khmers the Khmer decline happened because of Siam people. Every bad thing in history is accredited to siamese people.

Your children are raised to hate siamese people. Your people have been taught lies about siamese people. Your history is written with Lies about siamese people.

Blame yourself first? wow... thats a new one on me.
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 17 2011, 11:11 PM) *
Always blame yourself first? lol funny that. Thats not exactly the picture Khmers paint to the world. According to Khmers the Khmer decline happened because of Siam people. Every bad thing in history is accredited to siamese people.

Your children are raised to hate siamese people. Your people have been taught lies about siamese people. Your history is written with Lies about siamese people.

Blame yourself first? wow... thats a new one on me.


Blame it on the Siamese!!! duh2.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 18 2011, 10:42 AM) *
When you learn history. You have to put your nationalism outside. embarassedlaugh.gif

Thai-Lao conflict wars started by Lao kill Lao. The runaway Lao is ancestor of Thai Isan people today. The thug Lao are those in Laos today. Thai or Siamese was just the helper to Isan ancestors. They came to Siamese court and asked for help. Thai/Siamese never be the one who started war with Lao. It's Lao kill Lao, same as Khmer kill Khmer, that made us involved to your own mess. beerchug.gif


Khmer kill Khmer by need help from Viet and Thai because they can't really kill their own people. Thai king kill each other for power it normal and Thai people accept that! that how Thai mentality work!!! beerchug.gif
NoKhmen
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 18 2011, 09:40 AM) *
Khmer kill Khmer by need help from Viet and Thai because they can't really kill their own people. Thai king kill each other for power it normal and Thai people accept that! that how Thai mentality work!!! beerchug.gif


Oh yes, Khmer can't kill their own people in small number but in large scale like Khmer genocide. embarassedlaugh.gif

Thai nobles never asked for foriegn help when the king was died. LOL
Buddhalove
I disagree. beerchug.gif
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (NoKhmen @ Oct 18 2011, 11:04 PM) *
Oh yes, Khmer can't kill their own people in small number but in large scale like Khmer genocide. embarassedlaugh.gif

Thai nobles never asked for foriegn help when the king was died. LOL


Yes!! that how a layman like you believe about genocide, if no there will be no CCCE. Lol yeah because they can kill their relative just for own Monarch!!! The great example: the Present day of King of Thailand.
SabaiSabai
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 18 2011, 10:36 PM) *
Yes!! that how a layman like you believe about genocide, if no there will be no CCCE. Lol yeah because they can kill their relative just for own Monarch!!! The great example: the Present day of King of Thailand.


Usurping the throne is normal practice everywhere around the world dumbass. Show me a country where in their history there was no wars for the throne lol

Now how do you explain a people wanting to commit genocide on themselves. Killing off all the intellectual people, anyone with some skill in something. Only people that they wanted to remain alive were farmers.

Idiot people is what it is icon_smile.gif only in Cambodia.

Lander
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 18 2011, 05:36 PM) *
Yes!! that how a layman like you believe about genocide, if no there will be no CCCE. Lol yeah because they can kill their relative just for own Monarch!!! The great example: the Present day of King of Thailand.


Your epic's totally fail, Khmerboy, there weren't such a thing ever taken placed within our Honorable Majestic Royals, I'm sure it's never happen with your H.M. Sihanu as well. Stop take the rumor seriously, it's just time-wasting, worthless piece of $hit News.

Lately, all I see is bunches of Thais coming here literally, verbally bashing, trashing Innocent Khmers in every of your not-so-wise threads. Best way to stop retaliation is to cease yourself from agitation.

No no....don't even think about that, hands off from the Keyboard...... Now, start self-educating, listen more, talk less.
Bingbing5555
QUOTE (Lander @ Oct 18 2011, 07:50 PM) *
Your epic's totally fail, Khmerboy, there weren't such a thing ever taken placed within our Honorable Majestic Royals, I'm sure it's never happen with your H.M. Sihanu as well. Stop take the rumor seriously, it's just time-wasting, worthless piece of $hit News.

Lately, all I see is bunches of Thais coming here literally, verbally bashing, trashing Innocent Khmers in every of your not-so-wise threads. Best way to stop retaliation is to cease yourself from agitation.

No no....don't even think about that, hands off from the Keyboard...... Now, start self-educating, listen more, talk less.


And you're one of those Bunches of Thai.
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 19 2011, 07:28 AM) *
Usurping the throne is normal practice everywhere around the world dumbass. Show me a country where in their history there was no wars for the throne lol

Now how do you explain a people wanting to commit genocide on themselves. Killing off all the intellectual people, anyone with some skill in something. Only people that they wanted to remain alive were farmers.

Idiot people is what it is icon_smile.gif only in Cambodia.

Suggesting sources for stupid ignorance!!
Book: Brothers Enemy by Nayan Chanda
Documentary: Enemy of People by Thet Sombath

They both internationally recognized!!!
KhmerBoi
QUOTE (SabaiSabai @ Oct 19 2011, 07:28 AM) *
Usurping the throne is normal practice everywhere around the world dumbass. Show me a country where in their history there was no wars for the throne lol

Now how do you explain a people wanting to commit genocide on themselves. Killing off all the intellectual people, anyone with some skill in something. Only people that they wanted to remain alive were farmers.

Idiot people is what it is icon_smile.gif only in Cambodia.

Suggesting sources for stupid ignorance!!
Book: Brothers Enemy by Nayan Chanda he was the eyes witness for ECCC as well. Nayan was the recipient of the Shorenstein Award for 2005. The award honors a journalist not only for a distinguished body of work, but also for the particular way it has helped an American audience understand the complexities of Asia. It is presented jointly by the Shorenstein Forum at Stanford and the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics, and Public Policy at Harvard University.

He is an invited panelist on the Washington Post's PostGlobal and a member of the editorial boards of GlobalAsia and New Global Studies. He also writes a fortnightly column for Businessworld.

Documentary: Enemy of People A ground-breaking documentary on the Khmer Rouge, with extraordinary confessions from Nuon Chea obtained by Cambodian filmmaker Thet Sambath. In the documentary Enemies of the People, former Khmer Rouge leader, Nuon Chea, known as Brother Number Two, for the first time gives details how he and Pol Pot decided to kill party members they considered to be Enemies of the People.

Here the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmTu-FDUq-I...feature=related

I am waiting for part two which will answer to your stupid idiot Thai ignorance like you!!!!

Thailand is the worst neighbor on earth!!!

NoKhmen
QUOTE (KhmerBoi @ Oct 19 2011, 03:20 AM) *
Suggesting sources for stupid ignorance!!
Book: Brothers Enemy by Nayan Chanda he was the eyes witness for ECCC as well. Nayan was the recipient of the Shorenstein Award for 2005. The award honors a journalist not only for a distinguished body of work, but also for the particular way it has helped an American audience understand the complexities of Asia. It is presented jointly by the Shorenstein Forum at Stanford and the Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics, and Public Policy at Harvard University.

He is an invited panelist on the Washington Post's PostGlobal and a member of the editorial boards of GlobalAsia and New Global Studies. He also writes a fortnightly column for Businessworld.

Documentary: Enemy of People A ground-breaking documentary on the Khmer Rouge, with extraordinary confessions from Nuon Chea obtained by Cambodian filmmaker Thet Sambath. In the documentary Enemies of the People, former Khmer Rouge leader, Nuon Chea, known as Brother Number Two, for the first time gives details how he and Pol Pot decided to kill party members they considered to be Enemies of the People.

Here the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmTu-FDUq-I...feature=related

I am waiting for part two which will answer to your stupid idiot Thai ignorance like you!!!!

Thailand is the worst neighbor on earth!!!


What are your barking about? Khmer rouge is your Khmer father!


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