That's right, you can't get sue.. but i don't know about nowadays.. not sure..

-- let me share this story with you guys, my sis had this one friend, where her dad forced her to marry her guy friend from school.. that was because he went to visit her for something.. they were in the house together.. just the two of them.. & yeah.. they got forced. the guy went to school & told his counselor... & they didn't get marry.. the parents got busted.

-funny stuff eh..- so YEAH YOU CAN'T GET SUE.. lol...

-- ANOTHER STORY, i heard.. this one couple got married.. the mom demanded for ten thousand or something.. the son-n-law says no.. he went to the police or somewhere & fined the family for selling her..or something.. funny shiet.. i think that girl, her parents probably disown her now.. LOL...

Now the guys know... Hmong women are the lows of the world.

Hmong women are the lows of the world?!!?

Sarcasm... But to think like that you folks really put yourself down.

u mean sarcasim...& no hmong women do not put themselves down..

it's you hmong men that do..(or at least u do..)

hmmmm forced marriage.

yeah, i have a friend who was forced to get married to his friend b/c they were seen out together alone at the movies. dumb right? Hmong people are very anal about the cleansiness of their daughters. i mean, if i just hugged one of my guyfriends in front of my dad, he'd tell me i'm not a virgin anymore. like wtf, i just hugged him goodbye... but i didn't actually do that. i'm not that dumb, lol. i know how old-fashioned old gs think. they speak in thorn-laced words, have sugar lips with salted tongues, and gentle eyes with hidden daggers behind their backs.

no matter how long you've dated someone, as a daughter especially, you should not touch your significant other (in their prescence, lol). you got to be hella smart to decode the clever old gs and be clever yourself to dodge the keen eagle eyes if you want to have fun... LOL............ seriously. if you're not... man, you better hope that luck is on your side... or just be smart enough to respect yourself and your family... and your body.

but honestly, men get away with more. a fraction of forced marriages occur b/c parents just don't want their daughters anymore b/c of ludicrous reasons (like reputation). as for men when they go as far as "hit and quit it", it's more like "yeap, that's my son!" if i had as much freedom as my oldest brother, i'd come home to an already dug out grave waiting for me.

sh*t what kind of parents do you have that say you're not a virgin anymore if you hug a guy. my parents weren't that strict. they'd only get mad if i spend the night over at a guys house or something. they'd let me go out with guys to movies or amusement park and stuff. y'all got some freakin scary parents. maybe that's why you guys are so against forced marriage. well i'm not saying i'm for forced marriage ether.

Jinglebells,

Majority of hmong girls are that low that's why they put themselves "whole-sale".

If I was the kind that does those things, I would be against it because I don't want no MOS DEV. Too good for mos dev...

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Maybe it is dumb, but she should of let her parents know her and her boyfriends whereabout first... Guys that don't even go meet his girl's parents and get permission are not a man. Sneaking out + Boy + night = Force marriage...

well, that's the mos dev you met. too bad for u huh? hehe.

Again, not all hmong women are low.


--- yes some hmong parents can be really strict, they believed if their daughter goes out.. they're doing something..u know what..

why do they think that? Because aunt "blah blah blah"daughter did that.. so they assume their daughter is going to be like that.. -ONE GIRL RUINS IT FOR ALL- -- things happened these days & it happens for a reason..

No, most parents are exceptionally reasonable... If a daughter listens to what they say and teach, the parents will have no problem with that issue as long as her boy friend knows manners and knowing when it's appropriate to see her. It is the kind that ignores all good lessons and do whatever they felt they want to do that ends her parent's patience. It's not like the parent hasn't give warnings before... But they continue to do it so it's reasonable to force that unlucky dog for her. At least that brings some closure, some accountability into play. Someone has to be held responsible and that unlucky dog's clan is liable for his mistake.

Well, if you know that your parent use your Aunts as an example, don't act like them (your aunts) than...

uh ok! i was only giving you an example.. i know most hmong parents always compare their kids to others..u know so yeah. that's that. hate that $hit!!!

it's like : "you know you're asian if your parents compare you to other kids."

As for my opinion of "Forced Marriage", Forced Marriage as taken in place when you're caught doing, going out late, or practically live with that person. But when it comes to when you parents want you to married somebody they like is more "Arrange Marriage"! But now a days alot of those "Arrange Marriage" doesn't happen! Because some parents are more understanding now unlike back then! My dad always joke with me about getting me married with somebody he like! Which we only joke around with! Because they perfer their children to have a successful education before getting married! But "Forced Marriage" still happen now a days!

yeah, i agree with LaLa Tsab.

hmm... some parents are crazy a$$ strict like mines. some are more reasonable as yajthaugluv said. but Hmong people are like... tabloid magazine editors, LOL... they always got to mess some one up and make their own family the more superior.

it's sad. Hmong girls/women are put so low... they live with a price tag on their heads (lol, don't kill me girls)... but it's true.
but for the sake of your worth, don't do unpretty things (if you're smart, you should understand)... but actually, the price could depend on location.... i heard that chics on the west side are 10k... and those on the eastside are... 5k??? and chics down south are 10k while chics up north are 2k???.... dunno about midwest. but man, if that's true and you're broke, you know where to go, hahahaha......

Tabloid magazine, you know, that's a great idea. You should set up your own firm and start publishing magazines about hmong men and women. It will definitely sell. Maybe hmong people would start paying more attention to their own actions. It is because people lack self awareness that they continue to do the indecent things they do.

To think that a dowry is a price cap like the one on livestocks is a misinterpretation. But I can understand where you are coming from. Just comparing an educated woman and one who just got a diploma from high school. The parent's of the educated woman would cost a bit more because the parent will nag about how much they've spent in supporting her through her education and how much effort they put to raise her to be the person she is, *cleanliness*. All this nagging during the negotiation, the groom will have to honor their nags if he wishes to be with his beloved bride. Original idea and purpose of the dowery is lost when greed rules over, because not every college grad know their stuff. But I do believe in compensating the parents knowing the person is true and are the direct product of her parent's influence. Now this kind of person are worthy of any price. What's sad is the parents' crown jewel falls into the wrong hand who's undeserving, a total loser...

I think you women should start putting prices tags on we men too, for your sakes.


Holy crap, chicks in the west side are 10k, east are 5k, south are 10k, and north are 2k. Wow! I guess hmong women in the north are really that low. haha... But you know, it's those parents that choose not to abide by the 18 clan leaders(councils) that demand their own caps. They never think about the reverse effect of making such demands.

I just finish reading the other topic about when the hmong culture will perish and this just freakin contradict what you just said about how the hmong culture will fade away..........this is one of the man reason y hmong culture will fade away. Cuz you outsmart ur parent and dont really listen to them........but now these days parents are more lent so its okay......

kaya Posted Yesterday, 11:36 AM
yeah, i agree with LaLa Tsab.

hmm... some parents are crazy a$$ strict like mines. some are more reasonable as yajthaugluv said. but Hmong people are like... tabloid magazine editors, LOL... they always got to mess some one up and make their own family the more superior.

it's sad. Hmong girls/women are put so low... they live with a price tag on their heads (lol, don't kill me girls)... but it's true.
but for the sake of your worth, don't do unpretty things (if you're smart, you should understand)... but actually, the price could depend on location.... i heard that chics on the west side are 10k... and those on the eastside are... 5k??? and chics down south are 10k while chics up north are 2k???.... dunno about midwest. but man, if that's true and you're broke, you know where to go, hahahaha......

man hmong women arent a price tag only you see it that way........once the hmong woman is bought and brought home isnt she loved by her husband's new family?? Yes she is, family is everything to hmong people. Only few times are seen when the family disregards their daughter in law cuz she's a slut hoe or whateva you wanna call it. Does the groom bring their wife home and treat them like crap?? Hell no.........he loves and treasures her and hopes that she knows the role of a hmong woman for example cook, clean, and be polite....

How young are you?? You must be young since you dont know y the midwest chicks arent worth as much. You know why the chick from midwest are the cheapest?? Its cuz most of them are divorced for some stupid reason or go out clubbing too much or are hoes. Where do you think all the hmong porno comes from midwest man..............

That's hmong women with too much education for you bro. It's an insult to their status quo.

hmong_bboy, it's certain some love and care for their wives, but some are disgustingly cruel in what they do. some are corrupted by the fast lips of some Hmong ppl, as i said, some are like tabloid mag. editors... there's many stories that i've seen and heard first and secondhand. but honestly, living as a daughter, behind closed doors, i hear what women say when they think no one is around. you just don't know what goes around and people never know the whole story... i hear it in the kitchen, lol, while you men sit in the living room. a lot of Hmong women love gossip...i just think it's interesting what i hear but i don't take it seriously.

but i just wonder about the prices... is it true? but i know in some places, some are considerate of those who are poor, so they lower the region's price of dowry... and honestly, the young ladies in the midwest, as it's growing in population due to the farm business... it remains unclear as of now... but in most cases, it depends on the parents *shrugs*

Im sry but i feel sorry for your children...I would be so depressed I would run away from home if my parents were like you.

The sad thing is you just dont know the hmong culture yet.......by reading ur comments here and there i feel sad for you.....the reason y you would run away because you werent raised the hmong way if you were you would just listen and fear punishment from ur parents......eventually you get used to it and move on......

Hmong parents or elders arent as stupid as they look just because they dont know english doesnt mean they're stupid they capable of doing more things than you'll ever know..............they're fast learners and can do things better than we can ever do..........

Hmm i dont think all of that is right...i mean i know a few girls who were raised the hmong way and they have run away from home. I think forced marriage is sad I wouldnt want my parents to force me into marrying someone I didnt love whether if he was hmong or not. I dont think elders can always make the right decisions either.

My grandmother knew this young girl in laos who committed suicide because she was being forced to marry her own Uncle who of course was wealthy and she was in love with another man who didnt have much. I know that our elders want the best for us but it doesnt always turn out perfect, I think that they need to listen to us also and understand that some of their ways isnt the best for us.

Don't make yourself so deserving that's all.

NEVER I just think it is selfish and cruel for the parents to do that to their children. I know that some cultures still do that, but i dont think its fare to FORCE two people who dont love eachother to marry PERIOD!

Lol you probably do what most of the hmong people would do run away and come back home lol.............

i agree with yajthaugluv, be a good girl and boy and you won't be forced into something you don't. it's really truly that simple.


thsoe that gossip will probaly get hurt by the gossiping so better to just close your ears to such things.

i have a aunt who'd gossip about anyone and anything...usually she's the one that starts the gossip. whenever i hear anything from her i don't believe it...unless i hear and see for myself about that person that is being gossiped about.

about the bride price, it's whatever the parents want it to be. usually during negotiation, if the bride price hasn't been settled and they are still discussing/arguing about the bride price then the guy side could possibly tso tes khiav. that sux because then bad blood between the families in future negotiations. newho, don't look it as a bad thing. most parents give some of the bride price as dowry back to you and your husband anyways. also, if you guys throw a party (like a wedding reception), then the other part of the bride price is the money that is going towards the party. plus you have to think about the second part of the wedding when the bride and groom comes back to the brides house, the bride's parents have to provide food for the people that comes with groom and other family members (on bride side). damn you guys must think that it's cheap getting married but it ain't. y'all must think that the parents gets the dowry to spend all to themselves but they don't.

note: only greedy parents will keep the money to themselves.

if any guys are getting married, don't ever agree to paying for half the wedding reception (the dance party) rather than the bride price because that is going to cost more than paying the bride price.

That's true... should just dump her if she expects you to pay for the reception and such.

i wouldnt like it of being force being marriage to someone i barely knoe cuz it wud suck.wat if they lazy and dont know their manners or their own hmong culture.that wud really suck

forced marriage? ha!

if my parents tried doing that
i'd laugh really hard & take off.
i oppose it all the way.
people are never successful.
so many divorce rates from it.

Forced marriage??? People still practice it nowadays??? I thought it was just a fad from years ago..... My sister got forced to marry some douchebag from wisconsin years ago, it lasted for like 2-3 years, then she left cause they treated her like $hit. Needless to say, I won't be taking my part in that practice, because when you take someone elses daughter and run away with them and she doesn't want to go with you, it's called kidnapping... I literally "lol" at people when they get forced to marry, because it seems people are really insecure these days, that they have to sink so low to get married. They should make a TV show about this crap haha...

I'd probably find it normal if it was a part of my culture, so yes, I guess I would.

I simply wouldn't do it.

..... The reason why Hmong people - even those born in the U.S. - do it is because they understand the concept of 'forced marriage'. It's just like understanding the concept of following the "do not enter" signs and "STOP" signs. This also applies to slavery.. but that's another topic =)

The real reason and motivation is, the parents are sick and tired of having to deal with her ways so they would just bind that poor bastard with their daughter so she can at least calm down. Because the law can't do anything to discipling her.

dang. why do hmong girls retaliate so much! anyway, force marriage. imho, like everyone said.

Because they're ashamed of themselves getting force into marriage and when it failed they look at the parents to blame. Straight up pathetic!...

i hate forced marriage and im a guy too! if someone tries that with a girl i know i kick his @$$ and that's the American way....

Sup peeps, force marriage? That still happens...lol...alright seriousness now...hmmmm. I think force marriages are retarded. First I think guys shouldn't be so afraid of taking a girl out on a date. step 1: get to know the girl's parents particularly her mom and her siblings(build relationships)...step 2: Ask her parents for permission to take their daughter out and indicate what time your going to be back. (not as hard as you think, never ever sneek out)...Step 3: If they say yes then it's a go ahead but if they say no then that fine too. If you do these things most likely you won't get into any dramas and it'll show that you are responsible, respectful, and courteous. If her parents don't like you well, it's okay, there's plenty of fish in the sea. Practice these steps and soon you'll be a pro...lol...but if you mess up and force marriage comes up, don't do it.(guys please, please do not i repeat do not go for any jail bait) force marriage is nothing but a idle threat, their just mad, let them cool down. If they won't let their daughter in the house, don't take her it's a trap their setting you up cuz if you take her their going to say all kinds of things next time. Leave her there at her folk's house they will eventually let her in, reasure her that everything is going to be okay and your not leaving her but that your presence there makes it worse. No one I mean no one can force anyone to marry someone just because you came late and even if you snucked out, they still can't force you. Yall know why cuz this is america, hmong rules are not applicable here. (remember this isn't laos or thailand). I'm not saying be disrespectful of our culture or anything, but force marriage is illogical and ill rational. They can't call the cops on you not unless you went out with a minor. (dont do it, your asking for jailtime)...lol...Yea your parent's might lose face, but they'll get over it. It's better to lose face then to face a force marriage...lol...So in conclusion follow the steps I mentioned earlier and you'll be all good, if not remember this is america.