Stephen Fry & friends on the life, loves and hates of Christopher HItchens

In this historic event, Stephen Fry and other friends of Christopher Hitchens came together to celebrate the life and work of this great writer, iconoclast and debater. Fry was joined on stage at the Southbank Centre's Royal Festival Hall by Richard Dawkins and the two discussed Hitch's unflinching commitment to the truth. Hollywood actor Sean Penn was beamed in from LA by Google+ and, between cigarette puffs, read from Hitch's acclaimed work, The Trial of Henry Kissinger. Five friends of Hitch spoke via satellite in New York: satirist Christopher Buckley and editor Lewis Lapham mused on Hitch's prowess as a journalist. 'Like a pot of gold', said Lapham. Martin Amis, Salman Rushdie and James Fenton delighted the audience with stories of Hitchens as a young man. Rushdie drew roars of laughter when he recounted a word game invented by Amis and Hitchens where the word 'love' is replaced with 'hysterical sex'. Particular favourites included Hysterical Sex in the Time of Cholera and Hysterical Sex Is All You Need.

Watching the event with Hitch at his bedside in Texas, Hitch's wife Carol and novelist Ian McEwan provided an email commentary. 'His Rolls Royce mind is still purring beautifully', typed McEwan.

The event was watched live by 2500 at the venue, and by thousands more in UK cinemas and online.

I am a big fan of Stephen Fry and of QI. Very clever man he is, but your link doesn't work.

Anyways, he is an atheist and good friend with Christopher.

Here is a link from the intelligence squared debate where stephen fry fighted the motion '' is the catholic church a force of good in the world.''

Needless to say, Fry fried the motion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zb0-yI3q9A

In the end of the first part he talks about the Roman Catholic Church made a joint statement with the most extremist Islamic countries to veto the rights of the women in the UN Cairo population conference, because both oppose the choice of women.

Anyways, what atheists and other outsiders do and whats wrong is:

They shouldnt judge a complete religion just because of the actions of few or even of their religious leaders. Because most leaders are corrupted by the sins of the world.

Neither should you be ignorant about and deny the wrong doings of your own religion. (cough)

Hee! I fixed the link...thx!

Biblical and Quranic sexism is a fact.

Women in the Bible and the Quran:

http://bibleandquran.com/women.htm
http://www.bible-koran.com/English/Articles/Women/women.html

Read and draw your own conclusion rather then believe the half truths or outright lies spun by the Islamofacist such as those above. Then compare which is the more cruel and evil in it's teaching and its deeds.

People who were devoted to religion, when they hear criticism about their religion they get so angry. Stephen Fry and his friends are mild mannered in their stance compared with these religious types.

Next time some religious type tells you : I'll pray for you

Just follow this brilliant and true reply : I'll think for you

Funny how when caught fibbing and telling half truth yet again, the oh so 'wise' Tangawizi the liar just resorts to more accusation which she can never substantiate. She defends Islam (but never produce any evidence to back her claim) and she attacks Christianity with half truth or outright lies because I am a Christian. She thinks the acerbic and nasty Fry and Hitchens are mild compare to the religious type. But why blame the religious when she herself is so so so religious following her own brand of leftist Westernised mambo jambo new age meditative contemplation nonsense? It is the case of the pot calling the kettle black if there is ever one! Her self righteous indignation is quite amusing if not pathetic!

But let's see what the Quran really says about women from the American ABC's Islam Deception exposed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWHDgJ9svxM

It is not surprising this liar Tangawizi lumped the Bible and the Quran together which I refuted above. What really is a woman's worth according to the Quran?
Click here: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/01...-worth-less.htm

The real truth is what's happening now is fair because of the things especially American government did to the Muslims.

Real truth? Fair?
Explain and substantiate your claim.

HAVE THE RELIGIOUS GONE LOONY?

'Harry Potter and yoga are evil', says Catholic Church exorcist
For most people it is a way of toning the limbs and soothing the stresses of everyday life, but the Catholic Church’s best-known exorcist says yoga is evil.


Father Gabriele Amorth, who for years was the Vatican’s chief exorcist and claims to have cleansed hundreds of people of evil spirits, said yoga is Satanic because it leads to a worship of Hinduism and “all eastern religions are based on a false belief in reincarnation”.

Reading JK Rowling’s Harry Potter books is no less dangerous, said the 86-year-old priest, who is the honorary president for life of the International Association of Exorcists, which he founded in 1990, and whose favourite film is the 1973 horror classic, The Exorcist.

The Harry Potter books, which have sold millions of copies worldwide, “seem innocuous” but in fact encourage children to believe in black magic and wizardry, Father Amorth said.

“Practising yoga is Satanic, it leads to evil just like reading Harry Potter,” he told a film festival in Umbria this week, where he was invited to introduce The Rite, a film about exorcism starring Sir Anthony Hopkins as a Jesuit priest.

“In Harry Potter the Devil acts in a crafty and covert manner, under the guise of extraordinary powers, magic spells and curses,” said the priest, who in 1986 was appointed the chief exorcist for the Diocese of Rome.

“Satan is always hidden and what he most wants is for us not to believe in his existence. He studies every one of us and our tendencies towards good and evil, and then he offers temptations.” Science was incapable of explaining evil, said Father Amorth, who has written two books on his experiences as an exorcist. “It’s not worth a jot.

The scientist simply explores what God has already created.” His views may seem extreme, but in fact reflect previous warnings by Pope Benedict XVI, when as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger he was the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican’s enforcer of doctrinal orthodoxy.

In 1999, six years before he succeeded John Paul II as Pope, he issued a document which warned Roman Catholics of the dangers of yoga, Zen, transcendental meditation and other 'eastern’ practises.
They could “degenerate into a cult of the body” that debases Christian prayer, the document said.
Yoga poses could create a feeling of well-being in the body but it was erroneous to confuse that with “the authentic consolations of the Holy Spirit,” the document said.
Italian yoga schools said Father Amorth’s criticism was absurd.

“It’s an accusation that has nothing to do with reality,” Vanda Vanni, the founder of the Mediterranean Yoga Association, told Adnkronos, an Italian news agency.

“It’s a theory — if one can call it a theory — that is totally without foundation. Yoga is not a religion or a spiritual practise. It doesn’t have even the slightest connection with Satanism or Satanic sects.” Giorgio Furlan, the founder of the Yoga Academy of Rome, said yoga had nothing to do with religion, “least of all Satanism.” “Whoever says that shows that they know absolutely nothing about yoga,” he said.

Father Amorth has previously said that people who are possessed by Satan vomit shards of glass and pieces of iron and have such superhuman strength that even children have to be held down by up to four people.
He has also claimed that the sex abuse scandals which have engulfed the Catholic Church in the US, Ireland, Germany and other countries was proof that the Anti-Christ is waging a war against the Holy See.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/harry-p...h-exorcist.html

Suppose that Muslims are all bad. Then Western world such as American government is all good?

You made a claim such as that above. Instead of explaining and substantiating your claim you come back with another? Is that what you get from practicing your faith by making further generalization without ever bother to prove any of your claim? There is no point 4 me to address your 2nd claim until you have provided some explanation backed by evidence for your first claim.

BTW, just look at what your cohort Tanga the liar posted. Should Father Amorth not allow to even express his opinion on anything Harry Potter included? Is that so bad compare to what is being perpetrated in the name of Islam? I'd say Tanga is truly pathetic, all that contemplative meditation nonsense has caused her brain to be porous. She is obviously deranged! But then again we all know that it is always open season as far as Christianity is concerned and the Catholic Church in particular. Because Catholics will not go on murderous rampage and kill you just because you criticize them. But Muslims surely wil!

Just because Fr. Amorth belongs to the Catholic Church doesn't mean he speaks for the Church, that much is obvious to any logical and sane person.

Muslims aren't allow to do yoga, it is haram and it is against the teaching of Islam. At least that's what the Indon and Malasia ulamas declared in 2010. I don't see Tanga doing the dirt on Islam re yoga. Obviously fairness is never in her vocabulary

Catholic Church continues murderous rampage in Africa

This is why more and more people are listening to, and agreeing with the likes of Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. And also why believers are pulling away from organized religion in droves.

This one statement will lead to the death of countless. Archbishop Francisco Chimoio and every one at the Vatican, including the Pope, should be tried for murder. It's that simple. They have gotten a free pass on murder for far too long.


"S. African bishop: Condoms tainted with AIDS"

MAPUTO, Mozambique (Reuters) - The head of the Catholic church in Mozambique said on Wednesday he believed some European-made condoms were deliberately tainted with the HIV/AIDS virus to kill African people.

“I know of two countries in Europe who are making condoms with (the) virus on purpose, they want to finish with African people as part of their program to colonize the continent,” Archbishop Francisco Chimoio told Reuters.

“If we are not careful we will finish in one century.

“I also know some companies who are manufacturing anti-retroviral drugs already infected with the virus, also in order to finish quickly the African people,” Chimoio said.

He declined to name the European countries in question or the source of his allegations.

The Catholic Church, followed by 17 percent of Mozambique’s population, opposes the use of condoms.

“People must choose what they want between death and I propose to them that (abstinence) is the best way to fight HIV/AIDS,” Chimoio said.

More than 16 percent of Mozambique’s 19 million people, mostly economically active adults aged between 14 and 49, are infected with HIV/AIDS. About 500 infections are recorded every day, according to the health department.

Sexual abstinence as oppose to sexual promiscuity.
It is your choice!

The Church can not and will not promote sex outside the union of marriage. Because that is against Her which is based on the Holy Scriptures. Murderous rampage? And only in Africa? Does Tangawizi understand the term she uses ? Does she understand what murderous rampage means? Is that the same as when she uses 'anyways' instead of anyway?

Tangawizi the wise is getting more insane by her every post. Oh and she is all for sexual promiscuity. Why is it when she can't control her sexual urges she ends up blaming the Church? I guess the Church won't issue a fatwa for her demise like the Mullahs would!

Tried for murder? Such exhibition of self righteous indignation. I like to see they give it a try!

And no link supplied? A liar perpetrates more lies!

if you scroll up to post #3 above you will read this Tangawizi
Tanga equates the Bible as sexist as the Quran. Though I have refuted her lie above, here are more links about women as taught by the respected high imams of Islam. If as a sane, humane and logical person, you find the teaching reprehensible and not in keeping with your values, then, do not blame the Muslims but blame the Quran. And most of all do not blame me.

Here are some 'lessons' on how to deal with women in Islam:

Killing your wife is OK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dtfi0LGvYR8...be_gdata_player

The best way to beat your wife
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yl8g8S6F3do...be_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp3Eam5FX58...be_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJNU2xx83nw...be_gdata_player

Then there is the Obedient Wives Club, founded in Malaysia. The OWC encourages Muslim wives to learn to be first class whores in order to please their husbands in bed. It has also published an Islamic sex guide. I have posted this in the Malaysian chat and as expected received plenty of flak from the usual suspects. But here is another link on this very sexist subject:
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/obedie...ex-guide/471336
What have the Jews got to do with Muslims' sexual exploits is anybody's guess. But again do note the intense and pathological hatreds for the Jews. The OWC has many chapters around the world including the UK.

I can not find any teaching from any other religions that comes close to those above. But according to Tanga the Bible is as sexist. This is yet another proof that Tanga is indeed a pathological liar.

be careful dear Chutzpah for double posting, u could get banned just like elleX0 kena banned...

it's great to see how easily provoked u are every time there's a criticism on the Church, it's like a pavlov dog experiment seeing you go on the rabid attack and labelling your fellow forummers.. u must learnt alot from the inquisition textbooks

does it make you wonder why u have failed in your efforts to win the non-muslims like us over to your anti-islamic views?

does it make you wonder what is it about YOU that you have failed to make us agree with your anti-islamic views?

like we should not feed a stray dog lest you wanna own it

don't be so persistently clinging to your glorious and holy image of your Catholic Church and anti-muslim and islamic views


let's practice what we preach and why don't we find forgiveness and compassion and lead the astray to the righteous path, ok mommy chutzpah? howabout being nice to muslims and non-muslims for once instead of going rabid on them?

hugz Chutzpah! Have a lovely weekend in Singapore!


p/s - Oh, so u vehemently don't think the Catholic church is sexist, i will agree with you on that when the day comes when she follows the other churches to allow women to be ordained in their clergy. I'd agree that the Obedient Wives Club is a freaken joke on womens' right. Islamic sex indeed... Christian sex used to be defined very vigorously too (hole in the sheet?). They like to mimic lah.. these wannabees. Saw some unbelievable sex descriptions in the old testament too. You read them before?

Even religious books have porn. They should ban it for children...

I am not interested in arguing. I am just making some points that I think worth exploring. You can just ignore what I say, and pretend that I have never said anything.

Now take care.

You can't argue with a stone or someone stone-hearted.

Anyways, the oscar wilde article is useless. She apparently doesn't know who Stephen Fry is and searched in the web for something negative. In the thousands of positive articles about him, she apparently found a bit negative. And that journalist was just trying to be funny.

You can be a fan of someone and at the same time not approve the religion he follows. And ''died a catholic''? There are many catholics, who are just catholic from birth, but don't do anything about it. Chutzpah is one of them. She is probably looking for a ticket to hell, because she is ignoring the things her bible teaches.


this might: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbdnNgqfs8



Where does she equate?



I don't see biblical is same as quranic sexism. Just admit it is both, one being more than the other. But once both were quite close, just the cultural development in Western countries improved the situations for women. And given time, middle east will reach it too.


on a sidenote: who even wants ugg boots? :S ugliest things you can have on your feet!

Bump, but with good reason. Hitchens died today. Seems the same people who adored him will air a special about him.

RIP C. Hitchens

He is well liked even by the religious nuts.