I found this doc on YouTube. Watch this to see how our fathers fought against America. The spirits of Vietnamese people won't never die. This is a production of Japanese dubbed in Vietnamese, SR no English subtitle
P.S: Never underestimate Vietnamese woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3yjarzPS68...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki8hDjKxZV0...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7RuV6yyhmQ...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHJW-4MrBX0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbS2BXeQRyM...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmSBMSOZ2_c...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1e52MBnWUA

good post. Thanks

nice vid... thank... almost make me cry... everytime i think about this war my tears drop... we have lost so much.

Japanese is good...

Do you know Human Rights Watch? As we all know, HRW is the foremost guardian of Vietnam's human rights and justice. If the Vietnamese people lost so much as you claim, how come HRW never mentions this?

^ You talk as if you never heard about the Vietnam war.

During the Vietnam war, the U.S. dropped more bombs on this tiny country than all the bombs used in WW2 by all countries, Axis and Allies combined.

O rly ? I wish the US killed more Commies in the specific locations where they dropped the majority of the bombs. I wish they dropped that much bombs on the supply route in the northern border region as well. So there would be more of those casualties of non-Vietnamese that the VC hided from the press.

Damm, the "evil" US vs "great leaders of mankind" Stalin-Mao-Ho.
Poor Japan, poor south-korea, poor Thailand, poor Singapore, poor Malaysia, poor Australia, they don't have these little 3 Commies to save them from the "evil" US.

I wonder what the little Commies love so much about living in the US now. If I were them, I would go back to where these 3 commies are worshiped, if not now, at least for a time.

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Japan have a communist party Nhat Ban Cong San Dang (日本共産党).

poor south korea got hit and harrassed everyday by sina communist...

poor Commies China they are the second largest economy now.

Poor Thailand the word "glory" is not exist in the modern history.



your source?



They did, they even think about use nuclear, but it couldn't came true because our political tatics.

do you know that the bombing of U.S crushed everything, every house, every acient and cultural structure?.

how come a Vietnamese doesn't even feel anything when he see his country being bombed? So North Vietnam is not Vietnam so you don't feel a thing? Do you know that they bombed the southern too, they killed Southern Vietnamese who are not Communist too... and you even wish for more bombs.

I wish at least you guys have more pride and understanding but seems like i overestimated you....

C'mon now. Please don't use the Commie-Ho's tactics outside of Vietnam.

Your fallacies that the Commies in Vietnam and the Commies Ho Chi Minh and Mao taught won't go without a rebuttal.

"poor south korea got hit and harrassed everyday by sina communist..." C'mon now ! Harassed EVERYDAY ? Yeah, you compare Commie Vietnam with South-Korea ? Damm, the Commies ! You really compare South-Korea with Commie Vietnam ? You really compare a few harassments with the death and dissapearance of our Viet fishermen ?

"Japan have a communist party Nhat Ban Cong San Dang (日本共産党). " C'mon Commies! What does it have to do here ? What is your point here ? You bring in Commies irrelevant information ! Almost every free countries have or had a Communist Party. If the initial arguments here were:
There are no "Commies Party" outside of Commie Vietnam and Commies China.

Then you can be upset and come right back with: "No ...(insert expletives)... Japan have (had) a Communist Party, USA have a Communist Party, UK have a Communist Party... etc etc". Then your point will be more relevant, okay Commie ?

Your Commie-Ho trick to bring irrelevant info won't work.

"poor Commies China they are the second largest economy now." Again, Commies-Mao and Commie-Ho taught you the Commies tricks again.

Your info about China Economy are not really accurate, and not really relevant (and also very Ho-Chi-ing lame) :
Not really accurate: Populous countries sometimes have bigger economy, doesn't mean they are better than smaller economy country with smaller population. Commie-China have Economy Nxxx times bigger than a European country doesn't meant they're better.

Not really relevant: The argument was not about who having big/small economy. These tricks in argument of the Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh don't work anymore.

Ho-Chi-ing lame: China economy only take a hike AFTER they started to follow the Economic system of the West, the VERY SYSTEM that the Commie-dog-Ho-Chi-Minh decries.

"Poor Thailand the word "glory" is not exist in the modern history."[i]:

Danm, only the Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh know what this have to do in the argument.
(Yeah, the Commie-Ho taught you to love him, to worship him, Commie-Ho is the Greatest ever ever ever.... OOOO...K...A...Y Commies ).

My statement: [i]I wonder what the little Commies love so much about living in the US now. If I were them, I would go back to where these 3 commies are worshiped, if not now, at least for a time.
Your rebuttal: your source?
Source of what ? Of whether the Commie-Mao, Commie-Ho, Commies-Stalin are/were worshiped ? C'mon, Commies. Let's just for a moment talk about the Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh: You really REALLY need people to provide you proof of the Commie-Ho being worshiped ?

My statement: "I wish they dropped that much bombs on the supply route in the northern border region as well".
Your rebuttal: "They did, they even think about use nuclear, but it couldn't came true because our political tatics."

The dog Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh used to use this commie-trick too: to make up things: Tell me good children of the Commie Ho Chi Minh: Since when did I say "THEY DIDN'T" ? (let's just assume for now that they DID drop in the norther border region near China and killed alot more "non-Vietnamese" Commie-Chinese in consequence).

The Commie Ho Chi Minh taught you to lie but it won't work. little Commies:
"do you know that the bombing of U.S crushed everything, every house, every acient and cultural structure?."

Can you give us 20 (TWENTY) DIFFERENT REFERENCES supporting: "US bombs crushing.... every acient and cultural structure...".

No ? How about 10 References ? You said EVERY, then surely, your Commie brain can find at least 10, can you not ?

You can not right ?
Then, WHY do you lie commie? WHY do you say thing just like your Liar Commie-Father Ho Chi Minh who used to lie ?

"they even think about use nuclear, but it couldn't came true because our political tatics.":

So you base your Commie argument on what "THEY THINK" , Commies ? "THEY THINK" to shoot Nuclear missiles to incoming flying object from space too. Scary stuff. So ?

"how come a Vietnamese doesn't even feel anything when he see his country being bombed?" :

Yeah that's right Commies Only, ONLY your Commie-father Ho Chi Minh feel anything. Nobody else FEEL like your Commie-father Ho Chi Minh. (The Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh taught you that ONLY HIM, ONLY THE COMMUNIST PARTY, FEEL ANYTHING . Not just the Commie-Ho, but the other Commies in North-Korea taught the Commie-Little kids too: ONLY the Commie-Kim the greatest leader of Korea "FEEL ANYTHING".

With all that said, I can only say this: COMMIE-HO-CHI-MINH, You did a marvelous job to your children, to brainwash them, to teach them to lie just like you, HO-CHI-MINH.

He's a Catholicist, his loyalty is the Poope and Virgina Mary. However, give him a young boy, he'll be pleased as Punch

You talk as if you've never heard of Human rights Watch. They love the Vietnamese people like Catholicist Priests love children

My child of the Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh, don't you forget your father the dog-Ho-Chi-Minh and his accomplice To-Huu taught you ?

LET ME QUOTE:
"Tho Mao chu tich, tho Xit ta lin bat diet"

For people who don't understand Vietnamese, the above sentence mean:
LET'S WORSHIP MAO, LET'S WORSHIP STALIN".

So when you insult other religions, think about the religion of your Commie-Father the dog-Ho-Chi-Minh.


Oh yeah, give your commie-father the dog Ho Chi Minh a bunch of young boy and young girl and your doggie-father will be pleased like you never seen the doggie-Ho-Chi-Minh pleased .

By the way, child of the dog Ho Chi Minh, WHY do you dodge the legitimate request:

Can you give 20 references of US bombing crushing every ...:
"do you know that the bombing of U.S crushed everything, every house, every acient and cultural structure?."

C'MON commie child of THANG` CHO' DE? HO CHI MINH, WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER FOR THE OTHER COMMIE KID's ARGUMENT AND GIVE US 20 REFERENCES (at 20 different locations) TO PROVE THAT U.S "bombs crushed everything, every house, every acient and cultural structure?" Yeah, EVERY ANCIENT AND CULTURAL STRUCTURE.

STOP dodging questions like Thang` Cho' De? Ho^`, will you ?

You said effectively:
HRW doesn't document Vietnam lost much during the war. Hence since HRW says so, it must be true.
What, HRW is the official recorder keeper and spokesman for Vietnam?

I'm saying research the war itself. Vietnam( both the Northern half and Southern half ) lost greatly, Human suffering, damaged to property and economy took decades to repair, even today, Vietnam is just emerging as an economy.

Vietnam suffered like all the other countries caught up in the cold-war. Vietnam suffered for no other reason than they became pawns in a US Vs Russia confrontation.

um but the thing is our culture got destroyed, our people suffered from time to time... just finished the problem with the French then the U.S come and support the french to destroyed our country again with the powerful-advanced weapon with scorched earth tatics, and again the problem with French was solved, this time is the American themselves...we don't even have a rest. To die for your country is much more important than live in your enemies hands.

This is what marked the war between us and white - the western alliance with the lead of French started the campain around 1859:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochinchina_Campaign

This is what marked the begining of the War beetween us and the American... even it is in 1861 of 19th century:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Qui_Nh%C6%A1n

and then our capital structure and culture is heavy destroyed by the french in 1886 at the end of Battle of Dong Kinh (Tonkin).

Few picture of Dong Kinh battle:





This is how the traitors who dare to betrayed our country do:


just like the unix noodles above... thus marked the end of our prounded country... and the beginning of French's indochina.

And the day of unification in april 30 1975 is the day marked our victory, our pride restored and the end of our suffering. And we once again live happiness ever since...

Okay, I want to give an early Xmas gift to the little Commies here. Please marvel and be proud in the presence, although in a glass coffin, of your Commie-father-of-the-Vietnamese-Race (TO QUOTE THE STUPID-COMMIE) :

Damm, poor Thailand, poor Hong-Kong, poor Japan, poor South-Korea, poor Malaysia, which are nations who don't have such a great man like the dog-Ho-Chi-Minh to give them Happiness, the Commie-Dog-Brand of Happiness that only, ONLY, the dog-children could comprehend.

Now, looks like the Little Commie dodge the questions about the US bombing again.

Remember that the little Commie said that the US bombs crushed EVERY ancient and cultural structures.

And yet, the child of the Liar Commie-Dog Ho Chi Minh CAN NOT even provide 20 references to support that claim.

SO YEAH: COMMIE-HO-CHI-MINH, YOU TAUGHT YOUR CHILDREN TO BE A STUPID LIAR, JUST LIKE YOU, YOU HO-CHI-MINH, DESPICABLE MURDERER.

Commies massacred our people in Hue, 1968:

http://vnafmamn.com/fighting/massacre_athue.html

Funny the commie-children of the Commie-puppet write (Vietnamese language) which was made for them by the West.

There is a good chance that the Child of the Commie-Puppet Ho Chi Minh is living in the West too.

Please, do us a favor: Go back to the Tomb of your Commie-Puppet Ho Chi Minh.


Stupid commies taught By Commie-Ho, please look at Hong-Kong,

Yes, they are a colony of the West for a long time. And today, hoards of Vietnamese women have to go there to make a living. These women have to thank your LITTLE-COMMIE-DOG HO-CHI-MINH I'm sure.

and please look at South-Korea, Malaysia, Japans, etc . Look at the little Commies living in the West here: They don't even want to leave . They are so desperate to stay here, to assume Western culture and identity.

We all have seen pictures of the Traitor Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh kissing the Commies Chinese asses.

We all have seen the letter that the Traitor, Thằng Chó Đẻ Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh sent out to the Commie Chinese in 1958, basically giving away our lands to the Commies Chinese.

And yet, the Stupid Commies has the guts to say anyone else but their Commie-Father, a traitor.

Such irony.

You're being too harsh, he's not a traitor, being loyal to the Pope and the Vagine Mary is not traitorous, it's just idiotic pedophiliac syndrome.

In fact I doubt he's capable of being an effective traitor. Does he understand what he has written? I don't

Funny two stupid little Commies talking to each other, worshiping a murderer and secret-agent of Stalin in a liar and stupid despicable dog named Ho-Chi-Minh, who sent a letter to his master in 1958 to sell out the Vietnamese islands, which islands our fishermen can't even go anywhere nearby today. Congratulation, commie-dogs.

Stupid little commies still worship the Commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh while knowing he sent the stupid letter to the Commie-Chinese in 1958 to sell out the Sea territories in the South-China Sea.

Stupid little commies still worshiped the Commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh while because of him, Vietnam was engulfed in a war between the superpowers. [Look at Hong-Kong, Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore: Are they oppressed ? Are they inferior ? YES THEY ARE, but in the manner the stupid Ho-Chi-Minh taught the stupid little commies.

Stupid little commies still cannot provide the names, the locations of 20 ancient structures to prove US bombs "crushed EVERY ancient structures of Vietnam". Oh wait a minute, the liar commie Ho-Chi-Minh taught the little Commie to lie just like himself. Let's recall that this Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh wrote a fake book (using fake name), to say good things about Ho-Chi-Minh (who was himself HAHAHA). Not even Stalin resorts to that kind of deception.

Stupid little commies still insult religions, while knowing the Commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh brought to Vietnam a religion, Communism, that decries all kinds of religions, and worship no one but the Commies leader, and worship no one but murderers and assassins. Recall how the mistress of the Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh mysteriously hit by a truck at night in Hanoi. What a young lady like her doing at night at that time with nobody around ? Her sister got killed afterwards as well. All the while, the commie-liar Ho-Chi-Minh lie about never being married .

Please, my little commies who love the commie-Ho-Chi-Minh : Don't stay here in the land of the Capitalists : GO BACK TO COMMIE-VIETNAM RIGHT NOW !

C'MON, LEAVE US/AUSTRALIA/CANADA, RIGHT-NOW, LITTLE COMMIE-DOGS.

I thought the Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh said Capitalism is very bad, why are you little Commies still here ?

One more word to the two little Commies above and all other little commies about to join in as well:

STOP reading/writing in Vietnamese right now.

Because without the colonialists, there wouldn't be that language today. I know the Stupid-Puppet Ho-Chi-Minh never taught you that, so I thought I would remind you little children of the puppet Ho-Chi-Minh as often as I could.

And remember if there weren't a Catholic who made the initial comprehensive dictionary in Vietnamese, you Commie little brainwashed dogs would certainly still have to read/write in Chinese-like symbols.

NOW, WHAT THE DOG HO-CHI-MINH HAD DONE FOR YOU AND VIETNAM ? NOTHING BUT DESTRUCTION AND POVERTY. WAS THE COMMIE-HO-CHI-MINH HONEST TO YOU ? RECORDS SHOWED NO, HE WAS NOT HONEST.
Think about it.


Peace out.
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That does make sense. The ARVN troops were known to be pedophiles. When ARVN troops got to a village they would force 8-14 year old girls to have sex with them.

tl;dr

VNCH troops raped little kids. So that would amke sense for this Unix guy to be a pedophile seeing as how he like the VNCH so much.

Another child THẰNG CHÓ ĐẺ BÁN NƯỚC CHO TÀU HỒ CHÓ MINH , trying to avoid to answer the question: Give us the proof that :

"US bomb "crushed EVERY ancient structures of Vietnam".

By their non-answer, it seems these 3 little commie-dogs are saying:

[b]"We're sorry. We don't have any proof. We're just lying like how our Father the Commie-dog HCM teach us".

Funny the three little commie dogs talking to each other, but when people asked them: where is the proof the "US bomb "crushed EVERY ancient structures of Vietnam", they can't even provide 20 references.

Yeah, bow to your commie-father, little Commies : (Let's recall this dog wrote a letter, 1958, to sell out our Vietnam's territory to his master the Commie Chinese).
(Uhmm, Thank you, THẰNG CHÓ ĐẺ BÁN NƯỚC CHO TÀU.)


THAT'S HOW THE STUPID LIAR HO-CHI-MINH TEACH THEM: TO BE A STUPID LIAR .

Let's recall that:

The Commie-Dog Ho-Chi-Minh was well known to have been taken picture of kissing little girls on the lips. (Google it).

The Commie-Dog Ho-Chi-Minh was well known to ask young women private questions like: "How are your menstruations going lately?" (i swear to you, the Commie newspaper DID publish a story telling this).

Oh, poor Malaysia, they don't have a stupid dog like HO-CHI-MINH to save them from the West .

My little commie friends, please look at Malaysia:


Do Malaysians have Commie Ho-Chi-Minh ? No they don't.
Do Thailandais have Commie Ho-Chi-Minh ? No they don't.
Do Hong-kong ppl have Commie Ho-Chi-Minh ? No they don't.

So what did the dog HCM do to Vietnam, and to you, my commie friends ?

NOTHING.

(... other than selling our country to China Communists; other than bringing the stupid religion into Vietnam; other than putting stupid Commies ahead of our culture; other than worshiping murders like Stalin; other than decimate countless our Vietnamese intellectuals in the 50s; ..., and more... ).

If the dog HCM can lie about tiny things like whether he's married or not,

and if the dog HCM can write a book under a fake name to do public-relation for HCM (which is himself),

then please think about the things that he can do to rape and murder our culture, our intellectuals, Buddhists and non-Buddhists included.

Without the dog HCM, we would be, at the very least, like Taiwan today. Recall that in 1950 before the war intensified, VN was only behind Japan and the tiny Singapore/HongKong. (Google pictures of Hanoi-Saigon in 1955 and you'll see).

Look around, and think about it, my friends.

The Stupid Red Commie flag, that the Commie-dog HCM mimic his master the Commie-chinese flag of 1923. Google: 1923 Flag Phu-kien, and you'll see.

The Vietnamese Heritage flag, originated more than 100 years ago:


Sorry little commies, only the dog HCM worships Chinese master and mimic their exact commie flag of 1923.
Do you think true Vietnameses would worship a Chinese flag ? Do you think the Commie in Vietnam, after hiding from you mundane things like the date of death of HCM, would tell you the truth about its commie flag ?

Please think about it.
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I didn't know that. I was only referring to the Catholicist Church which is the world's largest and only legal pedophile organization

LATEST news: tens of thousands of children were sexually abused the Catholicist Church in Holland.

Yeah, Catholic and Christian countries are bad.
No wonder this little Commie dog refuses to leave. Stupid Commie got his stupid Hypocrite face uncovered.

I thought your Father the dog HCM said Capitalist and Christians are bad, now you don't even want to leave. What a Stupid Commie animal. Get the hochim...ing out of here you dog. Go back to where you can worship a murderer, half pedophile, half stupid cannot-make-his-own-flag Ho-Chi-Minh.

As for the other child of the commie HCM with the nicknam ...Khiem, let's recall he indirectly call his own family are sucking white ...d (to quote his words), in parts because thanks to the West, they can read and write in Latin alphabets today.

So, thank you commie-dog HCM, you teach your children quite well.

To the other Commie, please answer the honest and simple question:

Please provide a proof that "US bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam" before everyone forgets what you initially wrote.

But I suggest you dodge the question and don't answer it.


PS:
I think I have to let the 3 little Commie-dogs barking with each other now.
After a few days, I can come back and conclude that the stupid dog just lie when he said "US bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam", just like the Commie-puppet sell-out to China HCM loved to do (master of deception, taking a fake name to write a fiction-like short-story book to promote HCM (himself). Anybody wants a Source reference for this ? I can give you no problem.

All the while, the 2 other little dogs keep barking to detract people's attention so the 1st little commie doesn't have to answer his own statement.

Nice try but the commie tricks are too well known now.

*** So long now, children of: Thằng Chó Đẻ Bán Nước HCM. ***

if you want to insult someone, you'd better give out the sources and have to be genuine and reliable, not some stupid biased $hits.
It's funny, people call your kind US's dog )

With all due respect, I think YOU, are the one who is a dog.
Now when you said (and I quote):

"people call your kind US's dog". Where is your source ?

Unlike you, when I said: "I think YOU, are the one who is a dog", I have a reason:

It's right here: NOBODY here, including me, attacked you.
And yet out of nowhere, you jumped in and attacked UN-PROVOCKED.
Yeah, deny that, dog.

i ignored that guy since i realised he is a traitor...

but one more thing, HCM is not like Stalin... his ideologies can be compare with Lenin who marked the beginning of The USSR.

Yeah, that's right, child of the Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh, who taught you that everyone, me included, is a traitor because we think without the Commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh, Vietnam would be at the very least like Taiwan, because in 1950, Vietnam was only behind Japan (and the tiny Singapore/Hong-Kong but even that is debatable).

Remember when you read/write Vietnamese, that without a French, you still write in Chinese Characters today.
So please, don't be a hypocrite like the Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh.

so you said we used to have Chinese-character language and then HCM changed it? pls give me some sources, i'm open-minded.

with all due respect, you are really an idiot. I said people call your kind US's dog so that means me included? ) your brain really fills with stupid biased $hits...

you dont know a thing about VNCH didn't you? even about the inflation and corruption of S.Vietnam.

if it is so good, so why Vietnam behind japan? why we can surpassed them... the only reason is because you guys sell our country to Westerner, japanese no, s.korea, singapore, Hongkong used to be vassal states. What is the merit of comparing vassal states? Japan is not a vassal state that is why they can do whatever they want to and also the largest economy of Asia.

s.Korea is not a rich country if Park chung-hee - a diactor didn't exist.

in 1960 VNCH ecnomy is ways far behind Korea already, litterally the country which have the lowest GDP in Asia... do not blame us for that.





1950-1973

Vietnam: 1.9
Korea: 5.2

poooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, and you dare to lied that VNCH is better than S.Korea.



no if the facking traitors and invaders didn't exist, i'll use our old characters - Nom Tu, not chinese or french.

see, only a traitors could praise the one who steal his ancestor's land, trust me you are worse than invaders.

i would be glad if he forget all about the past, i can forgive him, we could join hand and make Vietnam better, but its seems like he is an idiot, i want to forget and forgive, he want to dig it up and lie about it to blame it on us, though his kinds are the one who are traitors and brought invaders to hurt our country, but with him it is nothing, he praised the american for bombed his country, he praised French to turn his own fatherland in to a vassal state, he love everything about western imperalist - capitalist and hate everything about his country being a communist, he just want westerner to rule our country instead of our own people our own blood. He don't want our country to be the best, he just want us to be like korea... singapore, hongkong or something, his brain can't think about "the best" and "independence".

This is all you got little Commie dog ?:
"I said people call your kind US's dog so that means me included? icon_smile.gif) your brain really fills with stupid biased $hits... "

Okay, fine.

From now on, whenever you argue with somebody on this forum about something, then someone XYZ says: "People call your kind a stupid dog"... That means XYZ didn't insult you ?

OK, I'll use this trick next time.
Yeah, go ahead, please reply in this thread and the other thread with more insipid insults little Commie dog.
http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=324126

And to the other little child of the Commie HCM:

Yeah, CONGRATULATION. please go ahead, don't read/write using vietnamese, read/write in the old styled chinese-like characters only, don't lie like the commie-dog HCM.

NOW,
Can you provide us with 20 references of "US bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam" (your words) ?

I suggest that you dodge the question to answer your own statement about this.

Now, please don't confuse between about 1950 (the year I wrote) versus about 1960 (the year that your Commie brain thinks that I wrote), when the consequences of the war start to affect everything.

How can you develop an economy when everywhere a bomb that the stupid commie Ho Chi Minh got from Commie-China can blow up ?

have you watch LIFE pictures about HANOI? have you watch this Video?

your words are so dirty...sounds like what a mentally impaired patience...dog this dog that...

And those pictures showed that "US bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam" ?

Yeah, Continue to follow the teaching of the stupid-commie-ho-chi-minh "US bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam" to deceit, to lie, to mislead, to write a fake book, etc, etc.

BRAVO Commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh. You trained your children quite well, stupid puppet of Stalin/Mao.

This guy is a committed Catholicist, a profound Pope-ist, a vitriolic Vagine Mary-ist, people like him are also ardent Agent Orange deny-ists.

Expecting him to show sympathy toward Vietnam is like expecting Jesus's second coming. It ain't gonna happen.

Your paranoia of Catholicism, nowadays, can only be matched by the Khmer nationalists' hostility towards Vietnam. When anything goes wrong, you are always gonna immediately blame that same group of people off the bat.

I hope the unhealthy obsession won't lead to your destruction like it did to the Khmer Rouge.

That's right.

Uncle-Ho-Chi-Minh taught us that :
Uncle Ho, uncle Mao, the great Soviet, and our other comrades like Cuba are on the good side; while the "evil" imperialist Americans and their "puppet regimes", take over the world (bành thướng thế giới) with their Capitalism (tư bản mại bản). The latter is on the verge of extinction (bên bờ vực thẩm).


Ah the "evil imperialist American". But thanks to the immense love of the country of our glorious Uncle Ho-Chi-Minh, our Vietnam was saved and thank to Him, we have : Independence, Liberty, and Happiness (Độc lập Tự Do Hạnh Phúc).


Go tell all that to the Tibetans. Go tell all that to the ex-East Germans, ex-Soviets territories, ex- etc. etc.
Go tell that to the Buddhist and Christians patriarchs alike who dared to say something that you Commies deemed "counter-revolutionary".

Go tell that to the boat people who got their monument requested to be destroyed by the Commies, monument to commemorate the unlucky boat-people who could not reach shore before their last breath, running out of water, of food.


Go tell them that. Then go back to the mausoleum of the Stupid Commie Dog Ho-Chi-Minh in Ha-noi, and recount your exploits. Stupid Little Commie Dogs.

The thing about U.S. imperialism is that it's extremely cowardly. They don't just take land like a strong nation would. They are very passive aggressive about it. One of the reasons Hitler declared war on the U.S. was it's foreign policy.

What the U.S. does is they ask another country to allow the U.S. to install bases and station troops in their country. When they refuse the U.S. puts a sanction on their country so their economy suffers. Eventually they give in and allow u.s. bases.

The U.S. is a passive aggressive imperialist. The greatest conquerors just took what they wanted. The U.S. acts like a woman when it comes to that.

Your observation is factually incorrect. I don't blame Catholicists when Anything goes wrong.

Hoever, I blame Catholicists for these things:
having denied Vietnam a free election in 1956, chosen war and separation instead,
having committed far worse crimes against human rights than Viet Cong,
having been at least as corrupt as the Communists,
committing child sex abuse world-wide,
being wolves in sheep clothing when it comes to 'pro-democracy activism',
falsely believing Mary was a virgin.

^^You are proving my point exactly. I wouldn't be surprised if given power you would start a genocide of all Vietnamese Catholics. When the country is out of Catholics, you would start accusing other people of being Vietnamese with Catholic mind and murder them. Then you would invade a neighboring Catholic country until the international troops overrun Vietnam.

Going over your points, I see the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th are coming right out of your paranoia. Most of South Vietnamese troops and her population were not even Catholics or Christians in any form. You have the right to believe in your own imagination but please keep it to yourselves.
The 4th has some recurring incidents, but to say world-wide is a gross exaggeration. Also, you are blaming a whole population for some individuals' deed, which wasn't a part of the religion teaching.
The 6th is quite insolence. It's like telling a Hinduist, "You are stupid for believing Shiva has 6 arms. Having 6 arms is anti-logical."

This response is to tell my opinion to others who may read this topic. As for wnch, at the level of hatred you are, I am sure nothing I say can get into your mind. I am not in defense of America or any outsider forces. I am just frustrated at the degree of intolerance some Vietnamese have for their fellow-countrymen. Outsiders treat you the way you treats each other.

Having said that Unix2012 is really really outrageous, too. I don't feel the need to address him b/c I have the feeling that he will disappear soon. New account + aggressive language = trolling/flame invoking.

Yes, that's right.

If only we had free election in 1956, we would have "Independence, Liberty, Happiness" right then and there. So sad too bad we had to wait still 1975 after which we have Free-election (Commie Ho-Chi-Minh style).

Now please answer this:


How can we have free and open election when the world is divided between the US and URSS/PRC ?

Please tell me: How can a puppet country have different system than the two masters countries when the two masters, who provide Weapons, Ammunition, Food and Equipment supply, Framework for Political organization Structure, etc., are Communist countries ?


Please tell me: After 1975 and even now, does Vietnam have Democracy ?

Please tell me: How can a country have Open Election when there is only One-Party ?

Please tell me: How can a country have Fair Election when there are individuals like Ho-Chi-Minh who uses a fake name to write a story-book portraiting Ho-Chi-Minh (himself in full camouflage) like a people-loving, smart, [insert all the good qualities here...] person ?

Please tell me: How can a country have a Fair Election when the doctrine of "Land Reform" (a euphemism for killing/harassing Land-owners, and everyone who is slightly wealthy) so that the State owns everything: Land/Business/Culture/Religion/Eduction/Music/Arts/...etc...?

Please tell me: How can a country have a Fair Election when even Buddhist masters are harassed (to put it mildly) ?

Please tell me: How can a country have Free Election when the very flag representing the country means: The Party leadership (the yellow Star) following the Communist Doctrine (The full red flag) ?

Answering all those questions is to realize:

There could not be Democracy with Communism. Don't be a liar like the Commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh, Stupid Little Commie Dog.



Although these questions shall go un-answered by the Little Stupid Commie dogs for now.
But the stupid little Commie dogs will come back at another time.

No matter how many times they were told, the little Stupid commie dogs will repeat these lies again after a silence (long-enough silence so people forget), then they will say:

XYZ "denied Vietnam a free election in 1956".
XYZ "bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam".
XYZ "dropped bombs in Vietnam more than in all wars in the 20th century".
XYZ "bombs destroyed "Palace" in Ha-noi".

ask catholicist, why do our people hate them so much if they are sooooo good, of course there are good and bad, but those who related to Vatican is just like a pack, they would matching all days, its make our street uglier, they are littering all the time.

I would do the same thing,



so it is not enough our fatherland is not hurt enough? and do you even watch the clip made by japanese at the beginning, did Hanoi after the bombing looks like a place to live?



this is the truth and mentioned in the clip as also conformed by U.S asked your master about this and he'll answer you if he is being honest.



Most of Hanoi acient structures is already being crushed by Nguyen $hit and French, and what is left being crushed by American again, the one pillar pagoda along with other structures were being rebuilt by the gov after the war, of course there is something that lost forever and cannot be rebuilt again.

You can't deny the truth unless you are a liar, and of course we know that you are a liar - a person who are happy to serve the one who invade his country, a person who happy seeing his country being crushed by foreginers bombs, a person who are happily watch his kin' killed, a person who deny every truth and happy with the lies which are made by himself.

well i'm tired of you guy, trollin as you love to, no one will likes you anyways. i doubt that real oversea Vietnamese would think like you... of course real Vietnamese are those who without a collar made by the ALXX American.

seems like you misunderstood, there is no "master" or servant terms exist in Communist ideologies like Capitalist in the southern, we are friends and friends suppose to help each other, they didnt support food like the American did with S.Vietnam though.



yes,











do you even take a look at Lybia, do you think that a corrupt gov can exist under the pressure of capitalist - western mass media?



yes whats wrong with one party? one party, all kind of people, many kind of talents,... we always have open election.

And the last thing... Ho Chi Minh is admire by human of the modern world even israel, even palestine, even algeria,..., unlike those who ruled S.Vietnam and the U.S, being mudered and all recorded as diactors...

But it is not a lie. North Viet Nam and South Viet Nam both agreed to the free election but because South Viet Nam was just a U.S. puppet and had no actual freedom the U.S. was able to override the VNCH rule and cancel their end of the free election.

U.S. is only reason there was no free election since you need two consenting parties. The communist were then the only ones who wanted a democratic election. It was the anti communist who wanted war.

Excellent post

First we hear they say:"US crushed EVERY ancient structures".

Now we hear: "did Hanoi after the bombing looks like a place to live?"

Stupid Little Commie dogs. Where did the argument "looks like a place to live" come from ? From your Stupid Commie Brain ? The stupid commie weasel Ho-Chi-Minh taught its children quite well indeed.

Please show everybody here 20 references of "US bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam".
Please don't use the stupid commie tricks that the Commie-Dog Ho-Chi-Minh taught you, Stupid Little Commie dog.

If "EVERY ancient structures" were destroyed by US bomb, then your Commie-brain should be able to give 20 direct references to show everybody here, understand stupid little Commie dog ?

If everybody follows your logic, then US bombed must have "crushed EVERY ancient structures in Japan", stupid little Commie dog.

Can your Commie-brain give us a picture ? or the approximate time in the video clip where one could make a logical correlation that EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam were destroyed by US bombs ?

But please don't worry though: continue lying like the Stupid-Commie-Ho-Chi-minh, little Commie dog. Make the stupid commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh proud.

Yeah, that is right , stupid little Commie dog:

Vietnam have open and free election even if it is ruled by One-Party.

Sarcasm aside, the thing about the stupid little commie dogs is that:

They say: "US bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures in Vietnam". And even if they've been asked so many times to provide 20 references to that, they can't answer with a direct references. If it "EVERY", that means thousands to say the least, then why is that that they can't even produce 20 references of the name, the location, the time ?

The stupid-commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh don't have any shame to use a fake name to write a fake story-book to talk about himself, then we should not be surprised that the children of this Commie-Dog would not have any shame to lie.

Even if Vietnam was a puppet of URSS/PRC in 1955, they still think that Commie-Vietnam would have Free and Open Election. Even if the Commie-Dog Ho-Chi-Minh can't even make a flag but copy its flag from the Commie-Chinese 1923 flag.

Even today, there is no more Cold-war, and Commie-Vietnam still not have Free-Open Election, their stupid Commie brain still say: Vietnam would have had Free-Open Election more than half a century ago, while they were a puppet of URSS/PRC .


If today, there is no Free-Open Election, then what are the chances of Free-Open election in 1956 ? Stupid Little Commie Dogs .

Yes, you taught your children to be just like you, liars and shameless, Stupid Commie dog Ho-Chi-Minh.

Who are you talking to? You make post responding to someone but you don't clarify who you are responding to. Not only that but your posts make zero sense. Your posts start off okay but then they just fall off and end up as ramblings of a lunatic.

Answer me straight why would the U.S. cancel the free election if they love freedom and democracy so much. If South Vietnam was so "free" why was the U.S. able to override their decision.

Face it North Vietnam was the only "Free" Vietnam. Vietnam today has more freedom than it has ever had. The current government is the least oppressive gov. it has ever had as well.

The average citizen during dynasty times didn't have any power. There was no freedom under French rule. No freedom under the brief Japanese rule. No freedom for South Vietnam under U.S. rule plus all the violence carried out by ARVN and U.S. troops.

Vietnam today is the most peaceful it has ever been in a long time.

If today, there is no Free-Open Election, then what are the chances of Free-Open election in 1956 ? Stupid Little Commie Dogs .

Yes, you taught your children to be just like you, liars and shameless, Stupid Commie dog Ho-Chi-Minh.

Your stupid argument about peaceful is irrelevant. First the argument was about free election in 1956-58. Now your commie-brain turn to 60 years later ! Stupid little Commie dog.

Irrelevant argument: VN peaceful now.

Thailand too, Malaysia too, Taiwan too, Hong-Kong too, all peaceful now. What does it have to do with 1956 election ?

That's right little Commie dogs. All you can do is repeat the lies that the Stupid Commie Dog Ho-Chi-Minh brainwashed you (Free-Fair and Open General Election, Independence Liberty Happiness.)

And when you can't produce any relevant rebuttal, you have this stupid SMILE in your face, as if you are satisfied for having done WHAT YOUR Father-of-the-Nation the commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh had taught you.

Only in a short dispute and your commie brain can't stay on track and focus, bringing in irrelevant information to divert the attention from the topic at hands, then what can one expect from a argument-rebuttal style of debate with the stupid little Commie dogs ?

When I wrote 1950 Vietnam economy situation, the stupid commie dog somehow twisted into "1960" economy situation.

When we dispute about the Free-Open election and the world-turbulence of Vietnam in the context of full-blown cold-war 1955-1965, the stupid Commie dogs somehow turn to 2011's "post-liberalist" world situation, and compare that with the former.

Stupid little Commie weasel-dogs.

Let's address one item by one item .

But PLEASE DON'T. You're not invited, little commie dogs; we don't think you are able to do so without blurring up with irrelevant arguments like as shown above.

Now:
How can we have Free-Open Fair Election when your Stupid Flag is the representation of One Party, One Ideology, One State-controlled political/social apparatus ?

IN SUMMARY:
The stupid commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh should be proud.
The stupid Little Commie dogs, even with a simple question on their Statement:

Provide 20 references to support the statement:
"US bombs crushed EVERY ancient structures of Vietnam".

And even after 2 days of being asked, they can't even show that to everybody to see.

So, yes, please, continue to deny that your stupid commie-brain is what the stupid Commie Ho-Chi-Minh had inculcated in you, little stupid commie dogs.

And, yes, please, continue to tell the world what the Stupid Commie dog Ho-Chi-Minh had taught you, stupid little commie dogs.

Take care now.


Footnote:
Yes, that's right little Stupid Commie dogs. US and South-Vietnam are bad. But that's what the Stupid Commie dog Ho-Chi-Minh taught you.

At least, we don't copy the stupid Commie flag of the Commie-Chinese of 1923, Commie-dogs.

At least we don't have 80 years old people tell the truth about the atrocities you Commie did during the Land-Reform period.

Stupid Commie dogs. Even unimportant stuff like whether the Commie-dog Ho-Chi-Minh was married or not, you can't be sure, then what truth can one expect with what your stupid commie-brain can think up ?

Even with a small little detail of a year (1950) and the kind of your little stupid commie dogs already twisted into 1960, then what truth can one expect from you, little Commie dogs ?

Even with a simple flag, the commie dog Ho-Chi-Minh can't make one but have to mimic from his Commie master, then what insight can one expect from his little commie children ?

Yeah, that's right, stupid Commie dogs: USA is evil, that's why you little Commie dogs would love to stay here, if you can.

And Commie Soviet, Commie PRC, what your Stupid Commie-Ho-Chi-Minh aspired too, are such world-famous "good guys".

You stupid Commie dogs worship murderers and you come here telling people that US and allies are murderers ?!? Stupid Commie Dogs. Your Father the Stupid commie Ho-Chi-Minh trained you well.

Please, raise your stupid copy-cat commie flag in pride, go to the tomb of the Stupid Commie dog Ho-Chi-Minh in Hanoi and praise him for teaching you dogs to be such good Commie dogs.

Are you saying those points that I made are factually incorrect?

Just because my specialist subject is Catholicity you have extrapolated my views into genocide and invasion, don't you think that is a great leap of political correctness gone mad?

If being politically correct is your kind of thing then it is your kind of thing, it happens to not be my kind of thing, this forum is boring enough without even more PC.

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To UNIX ,
Any achievement to be proud of under VNCH's rule ?