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oolong
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Updated February 21, 2012 11:05:36

The mayor of a major Japanese city has told a visiting Chinese official that he doubts the infamous Nanjing massacre happened.

After capturing Nanjing during the Sino-Japanese war in 1937, Japanese soldiers embarked on an orgy of rape and murder, with China estimating that 300,000 people were killed.

But at a meeting with a visiting Chinese official, Nagoya's mayor Takashi Kawamura said that he believed only "conventional acts of combat" took place in Nanjing.

He said he doubted the massacre of civilians occurred.

In Beijing, a foreign ministry spokesman said there was irrefutable proof of the murder of hundreds of thousands by the Japanese army.

I wonder what devils666 and asiaticglory have to say about this?lol,asian unity my @$$.
AsiaticGlory
I said I promote Asian unity to OVERSEAS Asians. Asians from Asia can hate each other if they want. Just don't bring your conflicts to the overseas communities. Us overseas Asians are surrounded by whites, blacks, Latinos, Indians, and Semitics so Asian unity is a matter of survival for us.

I have more in common with Vietnamese and Koreans raised in America and Australia than with Han Chinese raised in China and Taiwan.
oolong
You changed ur slogan to that after I challenged you.You were just mocking South China Sea Disputes two days ago.
AsiaticGlory
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 07:17 AM) *
You changed ur slogan to that after I challenged you.You were just mocking South China Sea Disputes two days ago.


That's because the South China Sea Disputes is stupid and childish. Regardless of my actual views, I am going to mock it.

Now that I think about it, it would probably benefit the overseas Asian community if a war does take place in the Far East. Such a war would bring Asian refugees to the overseas which would increase our population.
The conflicts in the Middle East are increasing the number of overseas Arabs.

Why don't the Chinese and Vietnamese go extract resources from Africa or something? Africa is rich in resources and the blacks who live there did nothing with the resources.
oolong
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 09:23 AM) *
That's because the South China Sea Disputes is stupid and childish. Regardless of my actual views, I am going to mock it.

Now that I think about it, it would probably benefit the overseas Asian community if a war does take place in the Far East. Such a war would bring Asian refugees to the overseas which would increase our population.
The conflicts in the Middle East are increasing the number of overseas Arabs.

Why don't the Chinese and Vietnamese go extract resources from Africa or something? Africa is rich in resources and the blacks who live there did nothing with the resources.

What do you mean why,its their resources,doesnt matter what they do with them.
Rayzor
Here in Malaysia, in our History textbook, we were taught that during Japanese occupation, they done a lot of terrible things especially to ethnic Chinese. Among all the foreign power that come to rule Malaysia in the past, Japanese time is definitely the worst moment in our history.

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Living conditions under the Japanese were brutal with frequent reprisals against the ethnic Chinese population by both the occupying Japanese army and the secret police (Kempeitai).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_occu...ving_conditions

However, the younger generation of Malaysia today including ethnic Chinese do not hold grudge to Japanese.
AsiaticGlory
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 07:28 AM) *
What do you mean why,its their resources,doesnt matter what they do with them.


That's not my point. The point is that if the Chinese and Vietnamese want more resources, why don't they go find other sources instead of a couple of rocks?

Africa, Siberia, Antarctica, etc. are all rich in untapped resources.

That's what the whites did. Rather than fight over meager possessions on their continent, whites went out and searched for resources from other locations. The end result of course is that whites have a large presence in every continent.
oolong
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 09:36 AM) *
That's not my point. The point is that if the Chinese and Vietnamese want more resources, why don't they go find other sources instead of a couple of rocks?

Africa, Siberia, Antarctica, etc. are all rich in untapped resources.

That's what the whites did. Rather than fight over meager possessions on their continent, whites went out and searched for resources from other locations. The end result of course is that whites have a large presence in every continent.

The whites control Africa,and the media.China did a little investment in africa,and they threw all kinds of accusation at us,Darfur and such.
AsiaticGlory
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 07:41 AM) *
The whites control Africa,and the media.China did a little investment in africa,and they threw all kinds of accusation at us,Darfur and such.


exactly
The ancestors of whites explored the world and now modern day whites dominate the world.
oolong
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 09:49 AM) *
exactly
The ancestors of whites explored the world and now modern day whites dominate the world.

And thats not about to change anytime soon so you can forget about Africa.The only asian country that has the ability and ambition to make a difference is China.If we make it,every asian country can take a piece,but if we dont make it,u can wait for all those little asian countries to kick us when we are down.They did it the last time right now they are all siding with the west.So theres no fairness no brotherhood we are on our own.
AsiaticGlory
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 08:00 AM) *
And thats not about to change anytime soon so you can forget about Africa.The only asian country that has the ability and ambition to make a difference is China.If we make it,every asian country can take a piece,but if we dont make it,u can wait for all those little asian countries to kick us when we are down.They did it the last time right now they are all siding with the west.So theres no fairness no brotherhood we are on our own.


I agree. China is the only Asian country that can make changes happen on a global scale.

This is yet another reason for overseas Asians to build a new Asian society in the Pacific Northwest. It would increase the ability of the Mongoloid race to influence the planet. The overseas Asians are also more pan-Asian so maybe we would be the "middle ground" for Asian infighting. It's kind of like how the presence of pan-white USA is a counter to the intra-white conflicts of Europe.
oolong
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 10:43 AM) *
I agree. China is the only Asian country that can make changes happen on a global scale.

This is yet another reason for overseas Asians to build a new Asian society in the Pacific Northwest. It would increase the ability of the Mongoloid race to influence the planet. The overseas Asians are also more pan-Asian so maybe we would be the "middle ground" for Asian infighting. It's kind of like how the presence of pan-white USA is a counter to the intra-white conflicts of Europe.

I dont have a problem with people from other asian countries,but I really dont think us being the same race matters at all.Remember 八国联军?Japan was one of them.And what they did during WW2?Like they gave a $hit about the mongoloid race except enslaving them?And all the other asian countries,they probably had a lot to deal with themselves but I doubt they would give us a hand when we needed them.It was America,white people that came to help.
RheeSan21
Well, when I was go to school in Russia they is teach us more about Europe part of WW2 instead of Asia. They are saying little bit about how Japan was very cruel country, torture prisoner, lose when Russian invade Manchuria and bla bla bla. Even though we is study history, I am never really learn about Nanjing incident before I move to UK. My boss here is from Guangdong, and he tell me that it was very serious incident where Japanese was destroy almost entire city and leave many starving children with dead parent. He say it was true event, and that Japan still never apologize for it.
This is all I know. My boss is very honest man, and so I am believe most of what he tell me about history of his country. I am thinking now that this story about Japan deny Nanjing incident is a lie...

newties21
I support overseas Asian unity.
It may even form a basis for the Asian unity at the old continent.
Even if it is not, there is going to be some seepage and a little two-way influence and it will be positive.
But I believe it can only succeed amongst East Asian and possible East Asian+ SEA but not overseas SouthAsians.
Hugham
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 09:15 PM) *
I said I promote Asian unity to OVERSEAS Asians. Asians from Asia can hate each other if they want. Just don't bring your conflicts to the overseas communities. Us overseas Asians are surrounded by whites, blacks, Latinos, Indians, and Semitics so Asian unity is a matter of survival for us.

I have more in common with Vietnamese and Koreans raised in America and Australia than with Han Chinese raised in China and Taiwan.


Agree with you.

Those Japanese mayor is lack of good heart and want to provoke East Asian people into conflict.

In Europe, people who denied Holocaust and other NAZI Germans evilness will go to jail.

Japanese government reputation will be judged by how they handle this misbehavior evil mayor.


QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 09:23 PM) *
That's because the South China Sea Disputes is stupid and childish. Regardless of my actual views, I am going to mock it.

Now that I think about it, it would probably benefit the overseas Asian community if a war does take place in the Far East. Such a war would bring Asian refugees to the overseas which would increase our population.
The conflicts in the Middle East are increasing the number of overseas Arabs.

Why don't the Chinese and Vietnamese go extract resources from Africa or something? Africa is rich in resources and the blacks who live there did nothing with the resources.


South China Sea is already part of China since the establishment of Republic of China in 1911.

It is the recent independent former European colonial countries in SE Asia who suddenly claiming the China's sea for their own in 1970, beyond their rightfully territory inherited from their colonial master.

I'm agree with you, Vietnamese, Filipino and Malaysians should go other part of the world to find natural resources.
RheeSan21
QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:19 PM) *
I support overseas Asian unity.
It may even form a basis for the Asian unity at the old continent.
Even if it is not, there is going to be some seepage and a little two-way influence and it will be positive.
But I believe it can only succeed amongst East Asian and possible East Asian+ SEA but not overseas SouthAsians.


I am not view South Asian as same with Mongoloid people. Indian, Pakistan, and these people does not have much unity with us, even if they comes from same country. To me they is different race.
oolong
Why is it always CHinese suggesting Asian unity when it was us who suffered the most from our so-called ”asian brothers“? 犯贱 much?
CRYPT
I think China should drop demand for apology from Japan. It makes China look bad and hypocritical(I admit China has caused a bit of conflict in Asia, particularly North Korea).

In the twenty-first century, things will go back to natural order. All countries of Asia will become allies of China once US naval fleets leave Asia.
RheeSan21
QUOTE (CRYPT @ Feb 21 2012, 11:26 PM) *
All countries of Asia will become allies of China once US naval fleets leave Asia.


From what I am hear, Japan and Korea is still populate with hundreds of rapist American soldier who is make much problem with locals.
oolong
QUOTE (CRYPT @ Feb 21 2012, 11:26 AM) *
I think China should drop demand for apology from Japan. It makes China look bad and hypocritical(I admit China has caused a bit of conflict in Asia, particularly North Korea).

In the twenty-first century, things will go back to natural order. All countries of Asia will become allies of China once US naval fleets leave Asia.

Im done with Japan's half-@$$ apologies.Not intersted.
And what did we do to the north korea?Dont be brain-washed by the Western media,our conscience Is Clear.
By allies,you mean they suck our blood and demand protection,and the minute China grows weak,they stab us in the back.Like what they supposely will do to America in your theory?
devils666
QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:28 AM) *
From what I am hear, Japan and Korea is still populate with hundreds of rapist American soldier who is make much problem with locals.


Don't forget the Philippines. They drove out the US base in the 1990's because there was too much rape and debauchery. The US still has military presence in the Philippines though. And Thailand is overrun by White tourists who pay to have sex with underrage children.

Asian history since the 1800's is very embarassing for us as a race. It's full of humiliation and subjugation by non-mongoloid people.
oolong
QUOTE (devils666 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:34 AM) *
Asian history since the 1800's is very embarassing for us as a race. It's full of humiliation and subjugation by non-mongoloid people.

Japan begs to differ:we killed more mongloids than any white race,asian power!
devils666
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 10:38 AM) *
Japan begs to disagree:we killed more mongloids than any white race,asian power!


I wouldn't say that's true. The atomic bombs, agent orage, and Asian slavery overseas killed a lot of mongoloids. Also, Japan militarized because Western powers were trying to take over Asia.
oolong
QUOTE (devils666 @ Feb 21 2012, 11:40 AM) *
I wouldn't say that's true. The atomic bombs, agent orage, and Asian slavery overseas killed a lot of mongoloids. Also, Japan militarized because Western powers were trying to take over Asia.

You have got to be kidding me.If it wasnt for the atomic bombs more chinese would have been killed by japanese.The first thing Japan did after militarized is invade China and kill tens of millions of Chinese.You are so anti-white you are out of your mind.
CRYPT
QUOTE (devils666 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:40 AM) *
I wouldn't say that's true. The atomic bombs, agent orage, and Asian slavery overseas killed a lot of mongoloids. Also, Japan militarized because Western powers were trying to take over Asia.


China has fought and won against UN/US forces in Korea and repelled Soviet attempts at taking Manchuria from the USSR.
RheeSan21
QUOTE (CRYPT @ Feb 21 2012, 11:43 PM) *
China has fought and won against UN/US forces in Korea and repelled Soviet attempts at taking Manchuria from the USSR.


Excuse me, is you make mistake here? Repell SOVIET attempt to take Manchuria from USSR? USSR and Soviet are same thing. Why is China need to stop Soviet from taking land away from themself? :P
CRYPT
QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:46 AM) *
Excuse me, is you make mistake here? Repell SOVIET attempt to take Manchuria from USSR? USSR and Soviet are same thing. Why is China need to stop Soviet from taking land away from themself? :P


Oops. Meant China.
AsiaticGlory
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 08:53 AM) *
I dont have a problem with people from other asian countries,but I really dont think us being the same race matters at all.Remember 八国联军?Japan was one of them.And what they did during WW2?Like they gave a $hit about the mongoloid race except enslaving them?And all the other asian countries,they probably had a lot to deal with themselves but I doubt they would give us a hand when we needed them.It was America,white people that came to help.


One thing I notice about Japanese people is they emulate the dominant power. Their original culture was heavily influenced by the Tang Dynasty which was the dominant power in Asia of the time. During the 1800s, the West became dominant so the Japanese adopted western culture. In other words, Japan follows the superpower.

In the Asian American community, the Japanese are probably the most likely to become Americanized.

The reason the Japanese during WW2 treated other Asians badly was because other Asian countries were less developed. They looked down on other Asians. However, this behavior isn't limited to Japanese people. Most Asians look down on poor people. A lot of Asians value class more than race.

It's the same reason why Northeast Asians look down on Southeast Asians. It is also why fellow Han Chinese from Taiwan, Singapore, and Hong Kong look down on mainland Chinese.

Asians are too obsessed with class.

QUOTE (newties21 @ Feb 21 2012, 09:19 AM) *
I support overseas Asian unity.
It may even form a basis for the Asian unity at the old continent.
Even if it is not, there is going to be some seepage and a little two-way influence and it will be positive.
But I believe it can only succeed amongst East Asian and possible East Asian+ SEA but not overseas SouthAsians.


South Asians are racially different so they are not our business at all. The exception are the indigenous peoples of northeast India, Bhutanese, and some Nepalese.

I don't know why people put Mongoloids and South Asians in the same category.

QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 09:24 AM) *
Why is it always CHinese suggesting Asian unity when it was us who suffered the most from our so-called ”asian brothers“? 犯贱 much?


It's mainly overseas Asians who promote Asian unity. Most of the pan-Asian supporters that I know grew up in the West. Some come from northeast India. I know a couple of them from Kazakhstan and Siberia.

Han Chinese from China, Taiwan, and Singapore don't care about Asian unity.

QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Feb 21 2012, 09:28 AM) *
From what I am hear, Japan and Korea is still populate with hundreds of rapist American soldier who is make much problem with locals.


yep
All non-Asian military forces should be removed from the Far East. American soldiers should guard their border with Mexico. Americans shouldn't worry about Asian issues when their country is being conquered by Mexicans.
oolong
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 11:48 AM) *
One thing I notice about Japanese people is they emulate the dominant power. Their original culture was heavily influenced by the Tang Dynasty which was the dominant power in Asia of the time. During the 1800s, the West became dominant so the Japanese adopted western culture. In other words, Japan follows the superpower.

In the Asian American community, the Japanese are probably the most likely to become Americanized.

The reason the Japanese during WW2 treated other Asians badly was because other Asian countries were less developed. They looked down on other Asians. However, this behavior isn't limited to Japanese people. Most Asians look down on poor people. A lot of Asians value class more than race.

It's the same reason why Northeast Asians look down on Southeast Asians. It is why also fellow Han Chinese from Taiwan, Singapore, and Hong Kong look down on mainland Chinese.

Asians are too obsessed with class.

But only japanese went out and commited massive murder and massacre.The fact that they are the same race as us only made it worse.I dont know why you people are defending them,you are just so obsessed with race its pathetic.
doggyji
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 10:32 AM) *
And what did we do to the north korea?Dont be brain-washed by the Western media,our conscience Is Clear.
By allies,you mean they suck our blood and demand protection,and the minute China grows weak,they stab us in the back.Like what they supposely will do to America in your theory?
I think you are treating strategic diplomacy too much on a personal level. Smaller countries that do not have a strong political leverage have to rely on the tedious power balancing game. Joseon kept their alliance with Ming even after Qing emerged. What happened? Straight military invasions from Qing. It was "China" that invaded Korea although you would say Qing wasn't real China. From China's perspective, they had their own reasons but China's involvement in Korean War also prevented unification of the Korean peninsula as a result. It's not that black and white as you seem to think China has only been a victim although I understand where you are coming from.
CRYPT
QUOTE (doggyji @ Feb 21 2012, 11:15 AM) *
I think you are treating strategic diplomacy too much on a personal level. Smaller countries that do not have a strong political leverage have to rely on the tedious power balancing game. Joseon kept their alliance with Ming even after Qing emerged. What happened? Straight military invasions from Qing. It was "China" that invaded Korea although you would say Qing wasn't real China. From China's perspective, they had their own reasons but China's involvement in Korean War also prevented unification of the Korean peninsula as a result. It's not that black and white as you seem to think China has only been a victim although I understand where you are coming from.


Didn't the Ming send soldiers to help the Josen Dynasty?
AsiaticGlory
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 09:53 AM) *
But only japanese went out and commited massive murder and massacre.The fact that they are the same race as us only made it worse.I dont know why you people are defending them,you are just so obsessed with race its pathetic.


You really don't know about racial differences, do you? There is more to race than just physical appearance. Racial differences exist when it comes to behavior and intelligence.
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_...on_Behavior.pdf
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf
http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/22/1/108/

Japan's behavior isn't that much different from that of the other Asians.

Chinese also killed each other in their own civil wars like the Warring States Period. By your logic, we can say that Chinese unity is "pathetic" because different groups of Chinese also killed each other a lot throughout history.

Regardless the modern world is one where the races with high IQs are building developed nations. They are no longer the ones that commit violence. Japanese and Mongolians would just build a developed country and not be murdering anyone.

Hint: The Vikings were a group of whites who killed a lot of their fellow whites. Their modern day descendants have developed countries and get along with other whites just fine.

In the future, Altaic nomads would probably be like the Norway, Sweden, and Denmark of today. In other words, their ancestors were violent but they are no longer violent in the modern world.
oolong
QUOTE (doggyji @ Feb 21 2012, 12:15 PM) *
I think you are treating strategic diplomacy too much on a personal level. Smaller countries that do not have a strong political leverage have to rely on the tedious power balancing game. Joseon kept their alliance with Ming even after Qing emerged. What happened? Straight military invasions from Qing. It was "China" that invaded Korea although you would say Qing wasn't real China. From China's perspective, they had their own reasons but China's involvement in Korean War also prevented unification of the Korean peninsula as a result. It's not that black and white as you seem to think China has only been a victim although I understand where you are coming from.

I feel bad for the north koreans but its not like China had a choice.And most of their suffering is caused by Kim's family.South korea allying with america also prevented unification of the korean peninsual.Like I said,we have a clear consious on this.
And Qing,really?We couldnt even protect ourselves,Joseon,however,under so many years of China's protection,didnt really try to help us.How desperate are you trying to find something to blame us?


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You really don't know about racial differences, do you? There is more to race than just physical appearance. Racial differences exist when it comes to behavior and intelligence.
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_...on_Behavior.pdf
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf
http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/22/1/108/

Japan's behavior isn't that much different from that of the other Asians.

Chinese also killed each other in their own civil wars like the Warring States Period. By your logic, we can say that Chinese unity is "pathetic" because different groups of Chinese also killed each other a lot throughout history.

Regardless the modern world is one where the races with high IQs are building developed nations. They are no longer the ones that commit violence. Japanese and Mongolians would just build a developed country and not be murdering anyone.

Hint: The Vikings were a group of whites who killed a lot of their fellow whites. Their modern day descendants have developed countries and get along with other whites just fine.

In the future, Altaic nomads would probably be like the Norway, Sweden, and Denmark of today. In other words, their ancestors were violent but they are no longer violent in the modern world.

Then maybe blacks deserve a second chance from people like you because what they did isnt even 1% as bad as the superior asian and whites did?
Japanese will kill again if they have the chance,just like the whites are still doing the killing in Middle East and Asia.Whats really pathetic is no japanese and mongolians are really asking for unity with Chinese,if they do they are doing it out of fear,so stop throwing yourself at them.
CRYPT
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 11:21 AM) *
You really don't know about racial differences, do you? There is more to race than just physical appearance. Racial differences exist when it comes to behavior and intelligence.
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/Race_...on_Behavior.pdf
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/pppl1.pdf
http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/psp/22/1/108/

Japan's behavior isn't that much different from that of the other Asians.

Chinese also killed each other in their own civil wars like the Warring States Period. By your logic, we can say that Chinese unity is "pathetic" because different groups of Chinese also killed each other a lot throughout history.

Regardless the modern world is one where the races with high IQs are building developed nations. They are no longer the ones that commit violence. Japanese and Mongolians would just build a developed country and not be murdering anyone.

Hint: The Vikings were a group of whites who killed a lot of their fellow whites. Their modern day descendants have developed countries and get along with other whites just fine.

In the future, Altaic nomads would probably be like the Norway, Sweden, and Denmark of today. In other words, their ancestors were violent but they are no longer violent in the modern world.


Japan, Korea, and Taiwan were built by Whites basically.
devils666
QUOTE (doggyji @ Feb 21 2012, 12:15 PM) *
I think you are treating strategic diplomacy too much on a personal level. Smaller countries that do not have a strong political leverage have to rely on the tedious power balancing game. Joseon kept their alliance with Ming even after Qing emerged. What happened? Straight military invasions from Qing. It was "China" that invaded Korea although you would say Qing wasn't real China. From China's perspective, they had their own reasons but China's involvement in Korean War also prevented unification of the Korean peninsula as a result. It's not that black and white as you seem to think China has only been a victim although I understand where you are coming from.


the Korean war was due to American backed S. Korea and Soviet backed N. Korea. It was more like a chess game between the US and USSR. China wanted to protect it's borders and interests which is understandable. It's just too bad that it was the Koreans who suffered from foreign intervention.
doggyji
QUOTE (CRYPT @ Feb 21 2012, 11:19 AM) *
Didn't the Ming send soldiers to help the Josen Dynasty?
They did. Before anything else, Ming was culturally favored by Joseon officials. My point is that if the Joseon officials were simply calculating what's gonna be safe for them, they wouldn't have offended Qing.

QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 11:21 AM) *
I feel bad for the north koreans but its not like China had a choice.And most of their suffering is caused by Kim's family.South korea allying with america also prevented unification of the korean peninsual.Like I said,we have a clear consious on this.
I understand China was also seeking their own national security and it's hard to blame a single party for complicated geopolitical matters like this. God damn, Kim family.

QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 11:21 AM) *
And Qing,really?We couldnt even protect ourselves,Joseon,however,under so many years of China's protection,didnt really try to help us.How desperate are you trying to find something to blame us?
Easy, dude. Who's blaming what? We aren't directly related or responsible for what happened centuries ago. Don't take historical discourses too personally. I'm simply saying every country's leaders are supposed to seek national security and when their art of diplomacy failed, the people had to suffer the consequences.
oolong
QUOTE (doggyji @ Feb 21 2012, 12:31 PM) *
They did. Before anything else, Ming was culturally favored by Joseon officials. My point is that if the Joseon officials were simply calculating what's gonna be safe for them, they wouldn't have offended Qing.

This is the reason I dont believe in the alliance with small countries,they think its ur obiligation to protect them,the minute you lose ur ability to do so,they blame everything on you,even the humiliation they may have felt when under ur protection.As if Ming was responisble that Qing invaded Joseon.
AsiaticGlory
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 10:21 AM) *
Then maybe blacks deserve a second chance from people like you because what they did isnt even 1% as bad as the superior asian and whites did?
Japanese will kill again if they have the chance,just like the whites are still doing the killing in Middle East and Asia.Whats really pathetic is no japanese and mongolians are really asking for unity with Chinese,if they do they are doing it out of fear,so stop throwing yourself at them.


Only problem is that blacks are incapable of building a modern civilization in the first place. They aren't smart enough. America's education system is being dumbed down because blacks are constantly complaining about how it's too difficult.

The only reason blacks didn't kill as many people is because they weren't able to invent the weapons needed to cause that much destruction in the first place. It's hard for blacks to mass murder anyone when all they had were spears. If blacks had machine guns, airplanes, and nuclear missiles, you can bet that they would be killing a lot. Imagine if some "ghetto thug from da hood" had a nuclear weapon.

Whites are not committing most of the violent crime in the West. Every rape in Sweden is committed by Muslim immigrants. America's jails are filled with blacks and Mexicans. A quick Google search will show you all of this evidence. The wars in the Middle East is mainly politicians being manipulated by Jews. Most whites aren't interested in invading the Middle East.

Once again, my pan-Asian views are being directed at the OVERSEAS communities. If you Chinese from China want to hate Japanese and Mongolians then by my guest. Just don't bring that conflict to the overseas.
zoopiter
QUOTE (CRYPT @ Feb 21 2012, 11:26 PM) *
I think China should drop demand for apology from Japan. It makes China look bad and hypocritical(I admit China has caused a bit of conflict in Asia, particularly North Korea).


i would disagree. china should correct attitudes in other conflicts while demanding apology from the relevant politician from japan or the relevant department or state. that will make two right, rather than two wrong.
oolong
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 12:44 PM) *
Only problem is that blacks are incapable of building a modern civilization in the first place. They aren't smart enough. America's education system is being dumbed down because blacks are constantly complaining about how it's too difficult.

The only reason blacks didn't kill as many people is because they weren't able to invent the weapons needed to cause that much destruction in the first place. It's hard for blacks to mass murder anyone when all they had were spears. If blacks had machine guns, airplanes, and nuclear missiles, you can bet that they would be killing a lot. Imagine if some "ghetto thug from da hood" had a nuclear weapon.

Whites are not committing most of the violent crime in the West. Every rape in Sweden is committed by Muslim immigrants. America's jails are filled with blacks and Mexicans. A quick Google search will show you all of this evidence. The wars in the Middle East is mainly politicians being manipulated by Jews. Most whites aren't interested in invading the Middle East.

Once again, my pan-Asian views are being directed at the OVERSEAS communities. If you Chinese from China want to hate Japanese and Mongolians then by my guest. Just don't bring that conflict to the overseas.

Im not gonna spend more time aruging with you about blacks because you clearly had ur mind made up.Lets just say Japanese and Mongolians commited cold-blooded murders and you defending such act is desgraceful.Using machine guns and un-maned planes doesnt make the killing cooler or superior or civilized even though you may think so.And I cant stress this enough but Japanese/mongolian flooding China is just as bad and horrifying as the blacks flooding China because no matter how superior you think they are they are not Chinese.And if Chinese dont even exist I dont care how developed and how the low the crime rate the world may become or have.
lol,just watch your back when ur building ur asian communities.And as I said you changed ur slogan just two days ago and I contributed a lot so dont bs me.
oxygen100
the reason black didn't kill as many man as yellow and white is because they were not able to do it,they are too dumb.
RheeSan21
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 22 2012, 12:52 AM) *
Japanese/mongolian flooding China is just as bad and horrifying as the blacks flooding China


So is you saying it would be bad for you if I some day come to visit China? icon_sad.gif Will you compare me to black criminal?
oxygen100
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 11:52 AM) *
Im not gonna spend more time aruging with you about blacks because you clearly had ur mind made up.Lets just say Japanese and Mongolians commited cold-blooded murders and you defending such act is desgraceful.Using machine guns and un-maned planes doesnt make the killing cooler or superior or civilized even though you may think so.And I cant stress this enough but Japanese/mongolian flooding China is just as bad and horrifying as the blacks flooding China because no matter how superior you think they are they are not Chinese.And if Chinese dont even exist I dont care how developed and how the low the crime rate the world may become or have.
lol,just watch your back when ur building ur asian communities.And as I said you changed ur slogan just two days ago and I contributed a lot so dont bs me.

what are you talking about?totally non sense.
doggyji
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 11:43 AM) *
This is the reason I dont believe in the alliance with small countries,they think its ur obiligation to protect them,the minute you lose ur ability to do so,they blame everything on you,even the humiliation they may have felt when under ur protection.As if Ming was responisble that Qing invaded Joseon.
Who even said Ming was responsible for Qing's invasions? You keep reading into something that's not there. Alliances are made out of necessity of every party involved. Ming helped Joseon as an ally but also on the flip side of it, Joseon became a buffer war zone when Hideyoshi was ultimately trying to invade China. What I'm saying is that you seem to look at international political relations as you would with personal relations.

v It's cool. icon_wink.gif
oolong
QUOTE (RheeSan21 @ Feb 21 2012, 12:55 PM) *
So is you saying it would be bad for you if I some day come to visit China? icon_sad.gif Will you compare me to black criminal?

You are a criminal?Or are you trying to imply all balcks are criminals?

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Who even said Ming was responsible for Qing's invasions? You keep reading into something that's not there. Alliances are made out of necessity of every party involved. Ming helped Joseon as an ally but also on the flip side of it, Joseon became a buffer war zone when Hideyoshi was ultimately trying to invade China. What I'm saying is that you seem to look at international political relations as you would with personal relations.

Oh,when I say "we" or "I",I dont mean me personally,I mean China,its a figure of speech.I sensed a little blame,apologize if I misread it. heart.gif
AsiaticGlory
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 10:52 AM) *
Im not gonna spend more time aruging with you about blacks because you clearly had ur mind made up.Lets just say Japanese and Mongolians commited cold-blooded murders and you defending such act is desgraceful.Using machine guns and un-maned planes doesnt make the killing cooler or superior or civilized even though you may think so.And I cant stress this enough but Japanese/mongolian flooding China is just as bad and horrifying as the blacks flooding China because no matter how superior you think they are they are not Chinese.And if Chinese dont even exist I dont care how developed and how the low the crime rate the world may become or have.
lol,just watch your back when ur building ur asian communities.And as I said you changed ur slogan just two days ago and I contributed a lot so dont bs me.


You fail at reading so much. The reason I mentioned machine guns and airplanes was to disprove your claim that blacks are more "civilized" because of their "lack of violence." Blacks would be killing far more people if they had the weapons to do so.

You're right. It won't be Chinese but it would be developed which is the only requirement for a country to be considered successful.
My point was that a China filled with Mongols/Japanese would be developed while a China filled with Africans would be 3rd world. I wasn't arguing whether or not it would be Chinese.

Regardless I think the probability of a Mongol or a Japanese accepting Chinese culture is higher than the probability of an African accepting Chinese culture.

You clearly don't understand overseas Asians. None of us care about their conflicts. None of us have the same mentalities as that of Asia Asians. I have more in common with Japanese Americans than with white or black Americans.
RheeSan21
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 22 2012, 12:02 AM) *
You are a criminal?Or are you trying to imply all balcks are criminals?


LOL, no. Just trying to make joke of when some people here say all black is criminal. Maybe it not work... icon_neutral.gif
oxygen100
QUOTE (oolong @ Feb 21 2012, 12:02 PM) *
You are a criminal?Or are you trying to imply all balcks are criminals?

who said blacks are all criminals?you?
oolong
QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 01:05 PM) *
You fail at reading so much. The reason I mentioned machine guns and airplanes was to disprove your claim that blacks are more "civilized" because of their "lack of violence." Blacks would be killing far more people if they had the weapons to do so.

You're right. It won't be Chinese but it would be developed which is the only requirement for a country to be considered successful.
My point was that a China filled with Mongols/Japanese would be developed while a China filled with Africans would be 3rd world. I wasn't arguing whether or not it would be Chinese.

Regardless I think the probability of a Mongol or a Japanese accepting Chinese culture is higher than the probability of an African accepting Chinese culture.

You clearly don't understand overseas Asians. None of us care about their conflicts. None of us have the same mentalities as that of Asia Asians. I have more in common with Japanese Americans than with white or black Americans.

Why would I care a China that is not Chinese to be successful or not?Because it is mongolid?You just dont get it.lol.



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who said blacks are all criminals?you?

I guess I was a little thrown off by somebody's sudden mention of criminals.
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QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 11:44 AM) *
Only problem is that blacks are incapable of building a modern civilization in the first place. They aren't smart enough. America's education system is being dumbed down because blacks are constantly complaining about how it's too difficult.

The only reason blacks didn't kill as many people is because they weren't able to invent the weapons needed to cause that much destruction in the first place. It's hard for blacks to mass murder anyone when all they had were spears. If blacks had machine guns, airplanes, and nuclear missiles, you can bet that they would be killing a lot. Imagine if some "ghetto thug from da hood" had a nuclear weapon.

Whites are not committing most of the violent crime in the West. Every rape in Sweden is committed by Muslim immigrants. America's jails are filled with blacks and Mexicans. A quick Google search will show you all of this evidence. The wars in the Middle East is mainly politicians being manipulated by Jews. Most whites aren't interested in invading the Middle East.

Once again, my pan-Asian views are being directed at the OVERSEAS communities. If you Chinese from China want to hate Japanese and Mongolians then by my guest. Just don't bring that conflict to the overseas.


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QUOTE (AsiaticGlory @ Feb 21 2012, 12:05 PM) *
You fail at reading so much. The reason I mentioned machine guns and airplanes was to disprove your claim that blacks are more "civilized" because of their "lack of violence." Blacks would be killing far more people if they had the weapons to do so.

You're right. It won't be Chinese but it would be developed which is the only requirement for a country to be considered successful.
My point was that a China filled with Mongols/Japanese would be developed while a China filled with Africans would be 3rd world. I wasn't arguing whether or not it would be Chinese.

Regardless I think the probability of a Mongol or a Japanese accepting Chinese culture is higher than the probability of an African accepting Chinese culture.

You clearly don't understand overseas Asians. None of us care about their conflicts. None of us have the same mentalities as that of Asia Asians. I have more in common with Japanese Americans than with white or black Americans.


Some Asians are incapable of building civilizations.
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