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skat3r
A Vietnamese Roman Catholic priest in Taiwan is providing shelter and assistance to around 20 women who claim to have been raped or sexually assaulted by two labour brokers.
Father Nguyen Van Hung told the BBC that he estimates up to 50 female overseas workers in Taiwan could have been victims of the men, who run an employment agency in Tainan.



The allegations against the men, which Taiwanese authorities are investigating, include assaulting the women during "physical examinations" carried out when they were applying for work as maids in the country.

The two men are also accused of forcing the women to sign documents denying that they were sexually assaulted. It is alleged that one of the women was paid $2,000 to stay silent.

In an interview with the BBC Vietnamese Service, Mr Tran Dong Huy, Head of Vietnam's Ministry for Labour's Representative Bureau, denied that the Vietnamese authorities were not doing enough to protect the women, who are now said to be living in very poor and cramped conditions.

He said that his bureau had contacted the Taiwanese authorities immediately, asking them to help any Vietnamese women who came to them needing protection and accommodation, and that his mobile number was always available.

Epidemic

The Vietnamese media frequently publish stories of Vietnamese workers overseas being maltreated, beaten and humiliated by their employers.

For several years they have criticised the Vietnamese Ministry of Labour for not doing enough to protect the workers abroad, particularly those in South Korea and Taiwan.

Dinh Quanh Anh Thai, a journalist for Little Saigon Radio in California - who has been investigating the conditions for Vietnamese female workers in Taiwan - said the fact the alleged victims are now under the care of Father Nguyen Van Hung, and not with Tran Dong Huy, proved they did not trust the government's representative.

Tran Dong Huy replied that those women only went to the priest because they had his phone number.
waterlily
It's their fault. They should never come to Taiwan. They should have known that Taiwanese people are famous for being rude and ungracious.(Not me, every Vietnamese now say so)
khu91x
QUOTE (waterlily @ Jun 3 2005, 03:04 PM)
It's their fault. They should never come to Taiwan. They should have known that Taiwanese people are famous for being rude and ungracious.(Not me, every Vietnamese now say so)
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If these women weren't cheap hoes they probably woudln't get mistreated , it's common sense. And think about the type of people that would buy these women , thugs , pimps ,and abusive men again it's common sense. Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes.
flipcombatmedic
QUOTE (khu91x @ Jun 3 2005, 03:16 PM)
QUOTE (waterlily @ Jun 3 2005, 03:04 PM)
It's their fault. They should never come to Taiwan. They should have known that Taiwanese people are famous for being rude and ungracious.(Not me, every Vietnamese now say so)
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If these women weren't cheap hoes they probably woudln't get mistreated , it's common sense. And think about the type of people that would buy these women , thugs , pimps ,and abusive men again it's common sense. Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes.
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but it said there they went to taiwan to become maids. i think it's not fair to say that all of them came there to be prostitutes and no matter what you say violence against others is never justified.
Rappapa
QUOTE (waterlily @ Jun 3 2005, 03:04 PM)
It's their fault. They should never come to Taiwan. They should have known that Taiwanese people are famous for being rude and ungracious.(Not me, every Vietnamese now say so)
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What a half assed bigoted statement.
chynagongju
QUOTE (Rappapa @ Jun 3 2005, 04:44 PM)
QUOTE (waterlily @ Jun 3 2005, 03:04 PM)
It's their fault. They should never come to Taiwan. They should have known that Taiwanese people are famous for being rude and ungracious.(Not me, every Vietnamese now say so)
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What a half assed bigoted statement.
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agreed.

Waterlily: What gives you the right to speak for "EVERY VIETNAMESE?" icon_rolleyes.gif
Byron
What I don't get, is after they done the deed they paid some of them $2000 to be quiet.

Uh wouldn't have been cheaper for them to buy a prostitute, if they were that desperate, or are the whores in Taiwan cost more than $2000?
Titanium
Such a sad topic, but what can anyone do? Afterall prostitution is the oldest profession in the world and apparently these Taiwanese scumbags want to pay for cheap hoes and unfortunately Vietnam happens to be their target.
damahu69
here's the scoop from a major taiwan newspaper if you can read chinese.

the abusers are father and son, they run an employment agency for placing vietnam maids in taiwan.

obviously they are also into fetish. sometimes they'd gang rape a viet girl while forcing 3-4 other girls to watch, saying they are teaching them love techniques. hideous stuff.



越劳哭诉》藉体检 轮流上 叫其他人观摩


记者吕开瑞/桃园县报导

遭洪庆章、洪明裕父子性侵的越南女外劳「阿桃」、「小红」昨天表示,洪家父子以「帮雇主检测身体」等理由对她们轮流性侵,还要其他女外劳旁观「学习」,实在「太坏了、不是人」。

遭洪庆章父子性侵的越南女外劳,单是通过教会组织查出的就有十多人,分别被安置在桃园市外籍牧灵中心及中途之家。记者昨天通过管道访问阿桃及小红。

阿桃有大学学历,因家境贫困想来台扒分,通过洪庆章父子的仲介公司介绍帮佣。不懂普通话的阿桃通过翻译指出,她去年十一月来台,洪庆章先以「雇主要求他要先检测外劳身体」为由,把她带进房间要她脱去衣服,随即摸遍她全身,还以手指侵入她下体。

她原以为这些都是必要的手续,没想到检测后,「老的」对他性侵,隔天儿子又对她性侵害,威胁她不得声张。接下来的两天,父子又轮流对她性侵害,四天后才把她交给雇主。

小红的遭遇和阿桃差不多。去年十二月来台时,也被洪庆章父子以检测身体为由轮流性侵害。小红还表示,洪家父子还告诫她,来台帮佣有的雇主「会有特别需要」,要她懂得伺候雇主不得违抗,否则任务不保,因此要先教会她「做爱技巧」。

小红描述洪家父子除了对她性侵害,还要求三到五名女外劳旁观。据她所知,旁观的女外劳后来也被洪家父子以指导做爱技术等理由性侵害。由于洪庆章父子有时还要求她们放假时回仲介公司,因此有多名女外劳被多次性侵。

谈到洪庆章父子的暴行,阿桃和小红伤心落泪,以「太坏了、根本不是人」形容洪庆章父子。

两人表示,她们初来台湾,根本搞不清楚台湾的情况,她们为优化家计来台,很担心钱没赚到万一出事被遣送回国,不但扒分贴补家计心愿泡汤,还积欠借来的旅费,因此一直不敢张扬,身心备受煎熬,直到有同伴向天主教牧灵中心求助,确认中心愿意收留和主持公道后,才敢出面投诉。
MING-LOYALIST
QUOTE (khu91x @ Jun 3 2005, 03:16 PM)
QUOTE (waterlily @ Jun 3 2005, 03:04 PM)
It's their fault. They should never come to Taiwan. They should have known that Taiwanese people are famous for being rude and ungracious.(Not me, every Vietnamese now say so)
*


If these women weren't cheap hoes they probably woudln't get mistreated , it's common sense. And think about the type of people that would buy these women , thugs , pimps ,and abusive men again it's common sense. Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes.
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Those women shouldn't be abused no matter what their work was.
Whoever broke the law is in the wrong.

"Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes."
I don't agree with this since lots of Taiwanese love Japanese AV idols.
華夏無產
They should not have come to Taiwan. They should have stayed in the warm and cozy jungles of Vietnam.
flipcombatmedic
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:58 PM)
They should not have come to Taiwan.  They should have stayed in the warm and cozy jungles of Vietnam.
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i thought most of taiwan is still forested?
Byron
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:58 PM)
They should not have come to Taiwan.  They should have stayed in the warm and cozy jungles of Vietnam.
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I agree, please tell your friends to stop going to Vietnam to look for brides.

I don't approve of anyone treating women as objects.
khu91x
QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Jun 3 2005, 08:44 PM)
QUOTE (khu91x @ Jun 3 2005, 03:16 PM)
QUOTE (waterlily @ Jun 3 2005, 03:04 PM)
It's their fault. They should never come to Taiwan. They should have known that Taiwanese people are famous for being rude and ungracious.(Not me, every Vietnamese now say so)
*


If these women weren't cheap hoes they probably woudln't get mistreated , it's common sense. And think about the type of people that would buy these women , thugs , pimps ,and abusive men again it's common sense. Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes.
*



Those women shouldn't be abused no matter what their work was.
Whoever broke the law is in the wrong.

"Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes."
I don't agree with this since lots of Taiwanese love Japanese AV idols.
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And you suppose gangsters don't deserve to be killed by others?
MING-LOYALIST
QUOTE (khu91x @ Jun 3 2005, 09:20 PM)
QUOTE (MING-LOYALIST @ Jun 3 2005, 08:44 PM)
QUOTE (khu91x @ Jun 3 2005, 03:16 PM)
QUOTE (waterlily @ Jun 3 2005, 03:04 PM)
It's their fault. They should never come to Taiwan. They should have known that Taiwanese people are famous for being rude and ungracious.(Not me, every Vietnamese now say so)
*


If these women weren't cheap hoes they probably woudln't get mistreated , it's common sense. And think about the type of people that would buy these women , thugs , pimps ,and abusive men again it's common sense. Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes.
*



Those women shouldn't be abused no matter what their work was.
Whoever broke the law is in the wrong.

"Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes."
I don't agree with this since lots of Taiwanese love Japanese AV idols.
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And you suppose gangsters don't deserve to be killed by others?
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Gangsters???
Whoever breaks the law deserves to be punished.
In this case it was the Taiwanese men not the Viet women who broke the law.
waterlily
skat3r, you shoud not post this topic here.

QUOTE
If these women weren't cheap hoes they probably woudln't get mistreated , it's common sense. And think about the type of people that would buy these women , thugs , pimps ,and abusive men again it's common sense. Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes.

Typical Taiwanese men talk like that, don't they.
SlantedVision
QUOTE (damahu69 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:42 PM)
here's the scoop from a major taiwan newspaper if you can read chinese.

the abusers are father and son, they run an employment agency for placing vietnam maids in taiwan.

obviously they are also into fetish. sometimes they'd gang rape a viet girl while forcing 3-4 other girls to watch, saying they are teaching them love techniques. hideous stuff.



越劳哭诉》藉体检 轮流上 叫其他人观摩


记者吕开瑞/桃园县报导

遭洪庆章、洪明裕父子性侵的越南女外劳「阿桃」、「小红」昨天表示,洪家父子以「帮雇主检测身体」等理由对她们轮流性侵,还要其他女外劳旁观「学习」,实在「太坏了、不是人」。

遭洪庆章父子性侵的越南女外劳,单是通过教会组织查出的就有十多人,分别被安置在桃园市外籍牧灵中心及中途之家。记者昨天通过管道访问阿桃及小红。

阿桃有大学学历,因家境贫困想来台扒分,通过洪庆章父子的仲介公司介绍帮佣。不懂普通话的阿桃通过翻译指出,她去年十一月来台,洪庆章先以「雇主要求他要先检测外劳身体」为由,把她带进房间要她脱去衣服,随即摸遍她全身,还以手指侵入她下体。

她原以为这些都是必要的手续,没想到检测后,「老的」对他性侵,隔天儿子又对她性侵害,威胁她不得声张。接下来的两天,父子又轮流对她性侵害,四天后才把她交给雇主。

小红的遭遇和阿桃差不多。去年十二月来台时,也被洪庆章父子以检测身体为由轮流性侵害。小红还表示,洪家父子还告诫她,来台帮佣有的雇主「会有特别需要」,要她懂得伺候雇主不得违抗,否则任务不保,因此要先教会她「做爱技巧」。

小红描述洪家父子除了对她性侵害,还要求三到五名女外劳旁观。据她所知,旁观的女外劳后来也被洪家父子以指导做爱技术等理由性侵害。由于洪庆章父子有时还要求她们放假时回仲介公司,因此有多名女外劳被多次性侵。

谈到洪庆章父子的暴行,阿桃和小红伤心落泪,以「太坏了、根本不是人」形容洪庆章父子。

两人表示,她们初来台湾,根本搞不清楚台湾的情况,她们为优化家计来台,很担心钱没赚到万一出事被遣送回国,不但扒分贴补家计心愿泡汤,还积欠借来的旅费,因此一直不敢张扬,身心备受煎熬,直到有同伴向天主教牧灵中心求助,确认中心愿意收留和主持公道后,才敢出面投诉。
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scums.
Fil-Am
WHy is this in Filipino Chat again?
Sleazy Dizzy
again some mod did this on purpose and should get shot at..........not to metion the other thread
華夏無產
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 3 2005, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:58 PM)
They should not have come to Taiwan.  They should have stayed in the warm and cozy jungles of Vietnam.
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I agree, please tell Taiwanese men to stop going to Vietnam to look for brides.
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I will. We don't need to race-mix with prognathic negritos. biggthumpup.gif
Gahwe
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 4 2005, 05:07 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 3 2005, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:58 PM)
They should not have come to Taiwan.  They should have stayed in the warm and cozy jungles of Vietnam.
*


I agree, please tell Taiwanese men to stop going to Vietnam to look for brides.
*


I will. We don't need to race-mix with prognathic negritos. biggthumpup.gif
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Wow, this is comming from a Cantonese? How dare you spit on your own face. embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2

Btw, Why is this thread in the Philippines forum?
RockOn HardGuy
QUOTE (Gahwe @ Jun 5 2005, 11:02 PM)
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 4 2005, 05:07 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 3 2005, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:58 PM)
They should not have come to Taiwan.  They should have stayed in the warm and cozy jungles of Vietnam.
*


I agree, please tell Taiwanese men to stop going to Vietnam to look for brides.
*


I will. We don't need to race-mix with prognathic negritos. biggthumpup.gif
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Wow, this is comming from a Cantonese? embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2
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why is this thread in the flipino section since its about vietnam and taiwan?????????

i wonder..........
khu91x
QUOTE (waterlily @ Jun 4 2005, 09:06 AM)
skat3r, you shoud not post this topic here.

QUOTE
If these women weren't cheap hoes they probably woudln't get mistreated , it's common sense. And think about the type of people that would buy these women , thugs , pimps ,and abusive men again it's common sense. Prostitues deserve getting slapped anyways , their all low lifes.

Typical Taiwanese men talk like that, don't they.
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Your typically annoying.
Emperor
QUOTE (Gahwe @ Jun 6 2005, 07:02 AM)
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 4 2005, 05:07 PM)
QUOTE (Byron @ Jun 3 2005, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE (華夏無產 @ Jun 3 2005, 08:58 PM)
They should not have come to Taiwan.  They should have stayed in the warm and cozy jungles of Vietnam.
*


I agree, please tell Taiwanese men to stop going to Vietnam to look for brides.
*


I will. We don't need to race-mix with prognathic negritos. biggthumpup.gif
*



Wow, this is comming from a Cantonese? How dare you spit on your own face. embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2

Btw, Why is this thread in the Philippines forum?
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華夏無產 is a Taiwanese.
devilish
icon_smile.gif
Forumwalker
QUOTE (RockOn HardGuy @ Jun 6 2005, 01:04 PM)
why is this thread in the flipino section since its about vietnam and taiwan?????????

i wonder..........

um, we're hosting multilateral peace talks?! *sarcasm* embarassedlaugh.gif2
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