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Vietnam's Failed Revolution . . .


By Le Van Tien. Mr. Tien is a Vietnamese journalist currently living in
Alexandria, Virginia. Born in 1923, he was a prisoner of conscience under
the French colonial government, under the government of Ngo Dinh Diem, and
for 14 years under the Communist regime. In 1993, while still in prison, he
received the Human Rights Watch Free Expression Award.

We are marching to Saigon.
We are entering the city.
We are liberating the South.

This was the song I heard the National Liberation Front soldiers singing as
they marched behind the North Vietnamese tanks that rolled into Saigon on
April 30, 1975. Later the lyrics were taught to children, who sang them
enthusiastically enough. Say what you will about the Communists, they have
always understood that children love parades.

In the years just after the unification of Vietnam, even as many South
Vietnamese were either fleeing in boats or being sent to prison or
"re-education," others -- particularly young people -- were willing to join
the Communists in efforts to rebuild the country. Many were even willing to
fight and die in the wars against Cambodia and China.

Yet 25 years later most of the survivors can barely remember the songs they
used to sing about the revolution. For those of us who were imprisoned or
forced into exile, it is tempting to judge the revolution by our own
standards. It is more instructive, however, to judge a movement by the
extent to which it has met its own goals. Life in Vietnam has indeed changed
in many ways since 1975, but not in any of the ways promised by the
revolution.

Vietnam was never a rich country, but now it is one of the poorest in the
world, with a per capita GDP of about $300. Teachers make $20 per month,
construction workers about $30, medical doctors $35. Of the 37 million
working-age Vietnamese, only 7 million have stable jobs, almost all in
government or in state-owned enterprises. The remaining 30 million are
seasonal workers employed for 200 days or less per year.

Almost everyone in Vietnam is struggling for survival day by day, and almost
everyone blames the government -- especially corruption in government. It is
no accident that people in rural areas are the poorest of all (according to
the World Bank, about 45% of Vietnamese farmers live below the poverty line)
because these are the areas where government is most corrupt and has the
greatest power over people's lives.

Despite the harsh measures taken by the Vietnamese government against those
who openly express their displeasure with government policies, there have
been periodic demonstrations and even uprisings among rural people
protesting corruption and oppression.

In 1989, several hundred people from villages in the Mekong Delta traveled
to Saigon, now called Ho Chi Minh City, to demand improved conditions in the
countryside. These demonstrations were partly motivated by resentment at
continued North Vietnamese domination of the South, but in the early 1990s
there were riots in three provinces in Central Vietnam, in an area known as
"the cradle of the revolution."

These events culminated in 1997 in Thai Binh, a northern province noted for
the unusually high percentage of enthusiastic Communists among its people,
in which thousands of peasants and farmers detained armed public security
officers and demanded an end to confiscatory taxes, corruption, and other
official abuses. Even a group of high-ranking Army officers from Thai Binh
openly announced that "the Communist party has succeeded in abolishing the
old regime in which man exploited man, only to replace it with a regime in
which the Party itself exploits the people." Many of the Thai Binh
demonstrators were sent to prison or re-education, but the government also
dismissed about 50 officials including the head of the provincial People's
Committee.

The poor living conditions of the farmers and the working class contrast
sharply with the lifestyle of many Communist cadres, government officials,
and executives in state-owned enterprises. They can afford conspicuous
consumption not because of their salaries, but because of their far larger
income from official corruption. In recent years, the government itself has
recognized that corruption is at the heart of its problems, strangling the
economy and scaring away foreign investors.

In mid-1999 General Secretary Le Kha Phieu announced a two-year campaign of
"self-criticism." The campaign is intended to end bribery, extortion,
smuggling, and other corrupt practices, in order to win the confidence of
the people and also of foreign investors. These investors were initially
attracted by the official policies of economic "renovation" and "openness"
announced in the early 1990s, but they have been discouraged not only by the
burdens of corruption and hyperregulation, but also by the consequent
decline in economic growth rates from about 8% annually to just over 4%.
Most ominously, many are frightened by the prospect of political instability
as a consequence of the steady erosion of the government's legitimacy.

The Vietnamese government seems to understand that it is in danger of losing
its grip on power. It has been quietly advised by scholars, international
financial institutions and representatives of other governments that it must
act to regain the trust of the Vietnamese people. The most obvious way to do
this would be through a campaign of renovation and openness extending beyond
the economic sphere to include freedom of expression, religion, and the
press as well as steps toward more representative government.

Party leaders, however, regard these freedoms as an even greater threat to
their power than the current popular dissatisfaction with government. In
August 1999, at the closing session of the Seventh Communist Party Plenum,
General Secretary Le Kha Phieu stated that "there will be no sharing of
power. The Communists will hold firmly to leadership. Any request for
democracy, freedom, human rights, or 'peaceful evolution,' is a conspiracy
by the enemy forces to erase the socialist regime in Vietnam."

This injunction has manifested itself in strong measures by local
authorities throughout the country against actions suspected to be harmful
to internal stability and order. Most recently, a number of Hoa Hao
Buddhists were imprisoned for participating in a ceremony to commemorate the
53rd anniversary of the disappearance of their founder.

Father Chan Tin, an outspoken Roman Catholic priest and human rights
advocate, was recently "tried" in absentia at public meeting organized by
the People's Committee in the district where his church is located. Father
Tin was charged with such crimes as "seeking to abolish the leadership of
the Communist Party" and "destroying the solidarity between religions and
the state." And the principal leaders of the Unified Buddhist Church of
Vietnam, the country's largest religious denomination, remain under virtual
house arrest.

The government also recently arrested, searched, and deported French
reporter Sylvaine Pasquier, who was apprehended outside the house of former
political prisoner Nguyen Dan Que, whom she was attempting to interview. Ms.
Pasquier reports that at one point her interrogator made a gesture to
simulate a gun at her head and said he could put heroin in her purse and
condemn her as a drug smuggler.

Next month Mr. Phieu will make an official visit to France at the invitation
of President Chirac -- the first visit to a democratic country by a General
Secretary of the Vietnamese Communist Party since Ho Chi Minh visited France
in 1946. The Phieu visit was arranged with the help of the French Communist
Party, which recently announced its determination to "rejuvenate the spirit
of communism" as a movement committed to "return political power to the
individual citizen."

Perhaps Mr. Phieu and his colleagues in the Vietnamese Communist Party will
come to share the insight of their French comrades that Communism can only
survive by finding a way to coexist with democracy and individual freedom.
If not -- if they keep trying to cure the consequences of Stalinism with
more Stalinism -- it is hard to imagine that anyone will be singing songs
about the revolution in another 25 years.


Link: https://lists.lsit.ucsb.edu/archives/gordon...ril/001540.html

herosword
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"Perhaps Mr. Phieu and his colleagues in the Vietnamese Communist Party will
come to share the insight of their French comrades that Communism can only
survive by finding a way to coexist with democracy and individual freedom.
If not -- if they keep trying to cure the consequences of Stalinism with
more Stalinism -- it is hard to imagine that anyone will be singing songs
about the revolution in another 25 years."


This is a rather interesting proposal and probably a moderate way forward for Vietnam politically. It's too late to reverse the "Revolution" but the communist party could survive within the framework of a democratic state. Many communist egalitarian ideas are good; but they are cannot be applied under absolute communist tyranny...the gap dividing the poor and rich can most effectively be mitigated under a democratic framework. Only under a system where the poor are enfranchised can they balance against the established bourgeois (now ironically the rich, corrupt communist officials).

It is interesting to note countries where the fusion of democracy and communism has worked. Mongolia has a democratically elected communist President. The Communist Party still has a large constituency in Russia. More convincingly, communism's more moderate sister socialism, has been effective in the Western European Country realizing the goals of a progressive government, an affluence citizenry, and an egalitarian society.

The problem in Vietnam is how does one topple the established old men who control the mechanism of dictatorship. Can Vietnamese find the "revolutionary" spirit to truly reform their society or must the country wait for some enlightened leader in the Party to lead the way to reform? The later is possible but difficult; the former is a better bet.

To reiterate, there are three paths that could reform could take:
1) violent overthrow --> unlikely since foreign intervention would be required. International Intervention is unlikely and undesirable for both the adversary and the home coutnry. Considering the legacy of the Vietnam War, even the most powerful states are loath to wallow into the morass of Vietnamese politics and resistence.

2) Vietnam is squeezed/destabilized by international sanctions causing unrest and internal revolution --> this approach might work but is particularly undesirable both for the cost that it inflicts on the wellbeing of Vietnamese citizens and the possiblity it might not work. Case and Point --> North Korea is on the brink of economic collaspe, but instead of a people's rebellion, the regime has only tightened its autocratic grip on the country.

3) gradual, PEACEFUL reform: the most desirable solution because it avoids the cost of the other two. It will likely occurs under these conditions:
-constant international pressure through international institution such as the UN, WTO, and ASEAN to reform
-activist organizations and protests by forces for change externally and internally
-Vietnamese affluence allowing the citizenry to reach a level of "awareness" that will make them demand more say in the running of their government
-communist failure to tackle corruption
-a citizens revolt supported by the army (this is difficult but it did happen in Russia)

THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT DEMOCRATIC FORCES SHOULD TAKE A PASSIVE OR NONCHALANT APPROACH. On the contrary, these agents of change (namely the South Vietnamese community abroad) should actively oppose the human rights and inhumanity of the regime, but leave room for dialogue and reapproachment. Whether we like it or not, we already support the regime through the forms of money sent back to relatives. This uneasy economic relationship should be acknowledged and used as leverage to pressure the regime to change.
This will invariably require dialogue between the diasporic community and the Communist Party; something difficult by itself.
worker_bee
I can tell with great certainty that the woman and the man waving the flag in his right hand are Catholics from the North (1954). They have the unique facial characteristics of Northerners
Sideley
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Jul 18 2005, 10:15 PM)
I can tell with great certainty that the woman and the man waving the flag in his right hand are Catholics from the North (1954). They have the unique facial characteristics of Northerners
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so then, bastard ! You should keep in mind that the Vn culture cradle is in the North.

Don't try creating divide between Vietnamese people. Foreign bastard !!!

To the topic starter : beerchug.gif Good solution.
Suijen
Why did they drag China into this?



They make it sound like it's China's fault this happened.
herosword
QUOTE (Suijen @ Jul 18 2005, 02:36 PM)
Why did they drag China into this?



They make it sound like it's China's fault this happened.
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Well, China is a major player in the region. Could the Vietnamese communist won the war without the CCP backing? The Soviet spread communism to the Chinese and the Chinese ensured it spread to Southeast Asia and Korea.
Happy Asian
QUOTE (Sideley @ Jul 19 2005, 05:34 AM)
QUOTE (worker_bee @ Jul 18 2005, 10:15 PM)
I can tell with great certainty that the woman and the man waving the flag in his right hand are Catholics from the North (1954). They have the unique facial characteristics of Northerners
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so then, bastard ! You should keep in mind that the Vn culture cradle is in the North.

Don't try creating divide between Vietnamese people. Foreign bastard !!!

To the topic starter : beerchug.gif Good solution.
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I'm second that.

It doesn't matter whether you're from the North or South, you are VIETNAMESE and that is that.
worker_bee
You called me a "foreign bastard"? There are so many ways I can twist those words around, shove them down your throat so you can joke on them. But I'm tired. "Married with children" is on. "Foreign bastard"! How ironic. You might want to edit your post before I have some time.
Da_Vince
I am sicking tired of these kinds of long @$$ posts, make it short and sweet so people don't get tired of reading them... biggthumpup.gif
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