you know how puerto ricans have bomba and salsa and now they have reggaeton which i think is like a mix of bomba with jamaican reggae theme..

and domincan republic has merenque..

does the philippines have their own style? since we were also a spanish colony did we make a fusion of indigenous and spanish style music to be something distinct that is has a whole name and identity for itself?

maybe we dont because i was reading about the history of bomba, salsa, reggaton, merenque etc and they say the roots of it go back to the west african slaves who were imported to the latin american countries.. i guess since the spanish didnt import africans to the philippines we lack those beatz in our music.. (but we do have negritos...) anyways i dont even really know if we have our own sound... i mean i know we got our indigenous, rural, and spanish dances.. but yeah.. whats d philippines reggaton? lOl damn reggaeton is hott lately... but you know puerto ricans always been hot in my opinon..

Yes we do, its called OPM

OPM "original pinoy music"? how original is it, cause it seems like rock songs sung in tagalog, rap songs.. but sung in tagalog.. etc etc

im talking about a certain style/beat/sound that u can say.. yup thats from the philippines.

but in order to have that i guess u need to use your own unique insturments that are native to your country, and i guess since filipinos are fond of using western insturments therefore we lack our own sound?

Don't forget, filipinos are imported to the islands too. Since we originally came from mainland asia.

^ what are u doing, defending our lack of unique philippine sound/music style?

yeah, to think... you're right. we do not have our own genre. the thing we call OPM are just songs sang in tagalog, some of which i thought are really original. i was wrong. they were just revivals.

actually we do lots of it dalawapo, a lot if you see the folk dances of the Philippines, like pandanggo, jota, tinikling and carinosa, etc..its so definitely very unique, each region has its own style of dancing that has spanish influence..unfortunately, we have not developed it as much as the latin americans did when the Yankees came and also because of ultranationalist people who think everything colonial is evil..if you know what i mean

those are dances, i am talking about a sound or genre of music that is unique and associated with a particular country as being the center of it..

secondly, u cannot blame the americans for the philippin's lack of a unique style of music because if u didnt already know, puerto rico was sold to the united states along with the philippines after the spanish-american war, and the US still continues to claim puerto rico as a terroriity to this day and yet the puerto ricans are CONTINUING to come out with ingenius music forms, not just copying or imitating verbitm american styles... and so puerto ricans are influencing american media. filipinos being the largest asian ethnic group in the states and having the longest historical pressence in the states of all the asian groups, i think we have influenced with our culture only minutely, why? perhaps because we are imitating and not inovating..

thats what im trying to say, the genre of a certain music or style hasnt progressed..Sure there are genre of style with lots of beats and and guitars in the Philippines, but it hasnt been appreciated by Filipinos because American style is better and marketable..Filipinos has not find a way to market its own genre of music to the global world. But there are a lot of indie musicians out there who are trying to fuse both ethnic and latin beats into their music, sadly they either become folk songs or world music which is again not really appreciated by majoity of Filipinos. Just listen to the music played by those folk dances and you can picture out how it shoud have been today if it was innovated in a way that is global, yet uniquely filipino and not influenced at all by american pop culture.

when i think of distinctly filipino sound i think of gongs mixed with zithers like those playen by the native tribes of luzon and mindanao. its like "clinka a ting clink a ting.. tong tong tong.. tong"

even the muslims they use brass gong type insturments, the kulintang, bop bop bop bop... bop"


but the christianized tribes use guitars, wind insturments, drums basically western insturments as though its some opera concerto or marching band. im sure the christianized tribes used to use gongs and zithers in the past much like their indigenous counterparts but these died out and were replaced...

i dont know if the "clinka ting clinka ting" sound will ever catch on gobally tho because its kinda like an aqquired taste it can sound annoying if u dont have a reason to appreciate it as one of the last living legacys of your people's native culture... and duh they (d rest of the world) aren't filipino so they might not think of it that way.. or even some filipinos dont care for it, that old school jamz... they want the new kids on the bloc

really? so whats the point of trying to appreciate merengue or salsa and then looking for it in the Philippines..the zithers and gongs, actually it is considered as a world music, it is already a genre popularized of course by the Indians..the opera concerto and marching band however is different from the music of what im talking about..Im too lazy and a bit on a hangover to explain about this but would you, at least look for music danced in the folk dances in the philippines, there are a lots of beats and rythm in there, this of course, depend on the kind of folk dances. Also, check out the ethnic dances, the dances of Prehispanic pinoys and tribal people, im sure youll get a kick of it, but hey whatevr...

well indians have a distinct sounding use of the drumbs and zither, theirs is like... "doy doy... doy" "tok tok tok"... mm something like that

anyways, i know whats distinctly filipino sounding... bamboo poles getting hit together and rattaan sticks hitting together..

i have just discovered it, now who is going to market the sound and make it famous across the globe!

i nominate ek-ek, horitaka, and jmac team up and create a traveling band called.... ?????

our own style of pinoy music would be beating on bamboo sticks and chanting

uhm yeah whatever but the pioneers of world genre music was started by the indians, nowadays you'll see a diverse world genre from different countries, from barzil to jamaica to australia, africa, southeast asia, latin america and also eastern europe, etc..

mulawin. i just noticed that your always trying to argue with someone, i dont think u have a civil bone in your body.. maybe you should self-evaluate that little i just said cause perhaps it transends to your actual life where you might have social inadequacies..

yes i do like to argue with someone if i have my opinions for or againts it.. but would you read the thread again and see who argued first.. Anyways, this is after all a forum and you started this topic, so if you dont want me to argue on some points with what you said, then dont reply, its that simple... talking about civil bones, were you just this guy who likes trolling and cloning around with malay nazi ideologies a month before?? Not until everybody hated you around here and then you started this born-again drama, confessing to the whole world about why you are being a loser to all the peeps around here, and because you only did those things because of Satan and your homosexual tendencies has clouded your mind?? Lolz! boy, talking about social inadequacies..

so what do you want from me that i feel like your following me all over the forum trying to spark some arguement with me as though your looking for a fight or your trying to bully me on the internet? lol. yea i used to do some bad crazy $hit on here and got caught up in racist dialouge as well, (notice that means it went both ways, i think you can not help it if you put yourself in a situation where everybody is shooting each other down) but anyway back to about you and me Mulawin. i can ignore you but then again you can like use your spider senses to get that tingling sensation and realize maybe im not interested in arguing with you and tone your aggressive behavior towards me down a notch cause im not on af to fight with anyone, just to relax still say some crazy $hit.. but the good kind. so bye now. have a blessed sunday morning and dont forget to have breakfast cause its the most important meal of the day, ok? im just concerned, what im basically trying to say is, lets not talk to each other anymore.

sure! and may i add, maybe you should notify on your topic starter who are suppose to reply and whos not..just wondering how you like to start a thread and gets annoyed when somebody argues with you ..and btw, dont flatter yourself, your'e not worth stalking.

Filipino music genre

Kundiman - these are love songs which originate during the Spanish period. they began as protest songs, which were used in protest sarswelas. It comes from "kung hindi man", maybe like "kung hindi man tayo maging malaya, mas mabuti pang mamatay" which is the theme of most of these songs - pining for love, for freedom, glory, etc.

in the 70's we had the Manila sound popularized by VST and co., hotdogs, etc.

the pinoy rock of sampaguita, mike hanopol, freddie aguilar, whose Anak I heard in Malay here in Penang

check also the novely sounds of the Bisaya - Max Surban, Yoyoy Villame, Pirot, etc - these ones are like the pop yeye songs of the Malaysians. must have come from the same stream.

these music hardly get into the category of world music. I wonder what the criteria are. if we listen to the puto mayo collections they are more on latin, afro, indian beats. but Makiling Ensemble once topped the world music sales of Tower Records in Makati. throw in also pinikpikan - I think they have two or three albums already.

the music of bayang barios is also distinctly pinoy, joey ayala too. and throw in Asin for the makabayan songs of the 80's

we should not keep comparing what we have or don't have with what other cultures have. like any cultural item music is created according to the socio-political conditions of our time. so we definitely did not create reggae, or whatever like they did in the latin americas.

Peace mga pare! Why all the hostility?
Dalawapo, there are alot of local rhythms used. Try looking for albums put out by Mitu's Tribe. He makes percussion instruments and specializes in studying the different rhythms of different tribes. There is really so much stuff out there. You just have to look for it. Your local library might be a good place to start. Also, I know I've said this before, check out JOSE MACEDA. Didn't we already have a thread on indigenous Philippine music?

Mitu is for Mike Tupas. I think he stays in palawan, but has gone the rounds of the islands. I bought a tape of his from Ayala Museum many years ago. I heard he has produced more. the shop that sells some of the casette in boracay is nowhere to be found last april i was there. I am not sure if they produce CDs now.

he designs musical instruments as well.

In Davao City, I met with a group of artists led by a guy named Kublai. he is a prolific visual artist, but he also hangs around with a group of musicians. they let me listen to a CD they have recorded of live, spontaneous music they have played. But these sound more of percussions, and couldn't be any distinct from the ethnic music produced in other parts.

i dont know how to distinguish filipino sounds from others.anyway, how can we describe filipino music?as in the exact description of filipino music?

slightly off-topic: OPM doesnt necessarily mean a song sang in Tagalog/Filipino. it encompasses all songs sang and composed by Filipinos whether in English, Filipino or any other dialect for that matter.

on-topic: we officially don't have a specific genre but having OPM is enough.. ^_^ it still defines us as a distinct group of people.

^ i dont feel that way

Thats really interesting i really want to hear what "anak" sounds like malay. Anyways i think filipino folk music is a genre in itself.

True. But in Antique, we have OKM. Original Kinaray-a Music. but that's only a marketing strategy. it's still OPM by your definition.

another note:
We cannot box Filipino music as just one kind of music. the dynamics of music is so vast the music Filipinos produce could range in styles and form from Classical to Jazz, to ethnic, to rock to pop, to folk.
Remember the Filipino is also a mixture of races and ethnicities.

[quote=dalawapo,Jul 30 2005, 10:49 AM]
you know how puerto ricans have bomba and salsa and now they have reggaeton which i think is like a mix of bomba with jamaican reggae theme..

and domincan republic has merenque..

does the philippines have their own style?

yep we do. have you heard the music of Joey Ayala at ang Bagong Lumad... they use indegenous instruments... one my favorite is the kubeng - made of bamboo and when being flipped back and forth - makes a vibe. i even have one kubeng given to me from Joey Ayala himself.

im interested in zithers... i want to own an indigenous philippine zither, i saw a dance performance where one type was used, it looked like a big bamboo tube and it was held against the stomach and it was plucked... kinda like a bamboo d!ck and ur plucking it, anyways do u know what im talking about?

not about plucking ur d!ck.
bamboo zithers - if you can visit the museum at the cultural center of the philippines, they have all kinds of indigenous musical instrments - zithers and all - not only of the phils but all of asia.

some bamboo zithers can be bought at souvenir shops, tho i am not sure if they sound good. the real ones must belong to the communities or artists themselves.

regarding OPM

i think im beginning to like Bamboo and Hale... i saw some of their music videos and i thought they were very nice. but i havent been exposed to many of their songs so i cant really say for sure yet. anyone got any good suggestions on good songs these 2 bands sing? or have any biographical stuff to share with me about them?

hale- the day you said goodnight(my favorite)
broken sonnet

bamboo--noypi
hallelujah

i saw the music video to halleluhay, anyways what does halleluhay mean ??/