African linguists have pointed out that at least five Asian major languages are of African origins. They are:
Cantonese
Japanese
South Indian
Melanesian
Korean
In fact, African texts "THE BOOK OF ANI,' makes it clear that one group of Africans called the Anu migrated first to Mesopotamia, then to India, then all the way to Japan about 10,000 years ago. The Anu lived in the Sahara and Egypt and after warring with the rest of the Egyptians, they migrated eastward.
(see www.ghanaforum.com )
The Chinese language is believed to come from the super language called Manding-Kush. It is a proto-language that was spoken in the Sahara as early as 30,000 BC and is still a major language family today.
Manding-Kush includes the Afro-Asiatic languages (Arabic, Hebrew, Tiginya), the Ba-Ntu language family, the Niger-Kordofanian, the Ku$hitic, the Manding-Shi (language of prehistoric Blacks of America, still spoken by Black American Indians like the Wa$hitaw, Yamassee, Gwele, Afro-Darienite, some Afro-Mestizas (Mandinga) of Mexico, Choco, Black Californian, Caracoles, Guanini and others; see "A History of the African-Olmecs," published by www.AuthorHouse.com also see http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
In parts of Africa, particularly from Sudan to Senegal and from the Sahara to South Africa, there are thousands of names that are identical in sound to both Chinese and Japanese. For example, names like Kong, Cheng-cheng, Ming, Yang, Anyang (ancient Cameroon city), Kwango, Chu, Wong, Fang, Ndong, Deng, Ndongo (ancient kingdom of Angola) and others are all African names used today.
HOW DID AFRICAN NAMES GET TO CHINA
Well some of us know that humans left Africa about 40,000 years ago (modern humans without any hair on their bodies ) and migrated to Asia, Australia, India and Europe. In fact, the first people to leave Africa entered India. From India they moved into SE Asia, Australia. When the one-mile high ice sheet that covered Asia and Europe melted, they moved into Asia and Europe.
Furthermore, looking at the faces of at least 25 percent of Africans in places like Sudan and Congo to South Africa, one clearly sees many featurs found in East Asian people and many found in East Indian people. In fact, the Kong-San of South Africa and tens of millions of Africans in the region where climatic conditions are as harsh as East Asia, do have similar facial characteristics as East Asians.
Yet, Africans have had these features for over one million years (high cheekbones, epicantus fold, ect., but black to brown skins, kinky hair, small to tall stature). Hence let's say the Africans who migrated to China about 40,000 years ago had features like the Kong-San.
Names and words that are identical and similar to Japanese words with similar meanings are found in parts of East Africa and in the Kalabari region of Nigeria ( see www.ghanaforum.com )
AFRICAN CU$hitIC LANGUAGES IN SOUTH INDIA
Many of the languages and in fact the people of South India are of direct African origins. The Sudra, Untouchables and many of the groups from Sri-Lanka to Bangladesh are also of ancient African origins and their languages are related to African languages found in Eastern Africa.
see http://dalitstan.org/books/sudroid
http://dalitstan.org/sudroid/books
In the case of the Philipines, some of the languages and peoples in parts of the Philipines are also of African origins. THE AUSTRIC PEOPLE OF SOUTH EAST ASIA WITH NEGROID APPEARANCE ARE IN FACT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF THE REGION. THEY ARE NOT 'LESSERS' OR 'POOR' THEY ARE THE BRINGERS OF CULTURE IN SE ASIA. Many originally came from Africa by way of India, hence the term 'Indo-China,' Indonesia.
See, "Chinese Scholars say first Chinese were African," WWW.RACEANDHISTORY.COM
Finally, the originally languages spoken in South China, Taiwan, Vietnam were Africoid languages and the people were Africoid. That may shock some, but there is documentation and recordings of journies to and from the Melanesian islands, South China and even the Americas by Africans from the 'wet' (lakefilled) Sahara and East Africa as early as 3000 BC ( see these pictures, http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
INTERESTED IN DOING FURTHER RESEARCH, SEE, "Susu Economics," pub. by www.AuthorHouse.com
HAIRSTYLES
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem3
CAPOIERA ANGOLA
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem2
also check www.suzar.com
www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html
Full Version: JAPANESE LANGUAGE IS OF WEST AFRICAN ORIGINS, SAYS
QUOTE (nubianem @ Aug 8 2005, 10:09 PM)
African linguists have pointed out that at least five Asian major languages are of African origins. They are:
Cantonese
Japanese
South Indian
Melanesian
Korean
In fact, African texts "THE BOOK OF ANI,' makes it clear that one group of Africans called the Anu migrated first to Mesopotamia, then to India, then all the way to Japan about 10,000 years ago. The Anu lived in the Sahara and Egypt and after warring with the rest of the Egyptians, they migrated eastward.
(see www.ghanaforum.com )
The Chinese language is believed to come from the super language called Manding-Kush. It is a proto-language that was spoken in the Sahara as early as 30,000 BC and is still a major language family today.
Manding-Kush includes the Afro-Asiatic languages (Arabic, Hebrew, Tiginya), the Ba-Ntu language family, the Niger-Kordofanian, the Ku$hitic, the Manding-Shi (language of prehistoric Blacks of America, still spoken by Black American Indians like the Wa$hitaw, Yamassee, Gwele, Afro-Darienite, some Afro-Mestizas (Mandinga) of Mexico, Choco, Black Californian, Caracoles, Guanini and others; see "A History of the African-Olmecs," published by www.AuthorHouse.com also see http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
In parts of Africa, particularly from Sudan to Senegal and from the Sahara to South Africa, there are thousands of names that are identical in sound to both Chinese and Japanese. For example, names like Kong, Cheng-cheng, Ming, Yang, Anyang (ancient Cameroon city), Kwango, Chu, Wong, Fang, Ndong, Deng, Ndongo (ancient kingdom of Angola) and others are all African names used today.
HOW DID AFRICAN NAMES GET TO CHINA
Well some of us know that humans left Africa about 40,000 years ago (modern humans without any hair on their bodies ) and migrated to Asia, Australia, India and Europe. In fact, the first people to leave Africa entered India. From India they moved into SE Asia, Australia. When the one-mile high ice sheet that covered Asia and Europe melted, they moved into Asia and Europe.
Furthermore, looking at the faces of at least 25 percent of Africans in places like Sudan and Congo to South Africa, one clearly sees many featurs found in East Asian people and many found in East Indian people. In fact, the Kong-San of South Africa and tens of millions of Africans in the region where climatic conditions are as harsh as East Asia, do have similar facial characteristics as East Asians.
Yet, Africans have had these features for over one million years (high cheekbones, epicantus fold, ect., but black to brown skins, kinky hair, small to tall stature). Hence let's say the Africans who migrated to China about 40,000 years ago had features like the Kong-San.
Names and words that are identical and similar to Japanese words with similar meanings are found in parts of East Africa and in the Kalabari region of Nigeria ( see www.ghanaforum.com )
AFRICAN CU$hitIC LANGUAGES IN SOUTH INDIA
Many of the languages and in fact the people of South India are of direct African origins. The Sudra, Untouchables and many of the groups from Sri-Lanka to Bangladesh are also of ancient African origins and their languages are related to African languages found in Eastern Africa.
see http://dalitstan.org/books/sudroid
http://dalitstan.org/sudroid/books
In the case of the Philipines, some of the languages and peoples in parts of the Philipines are also of African origins. THE AUSTRIC PEOPLE OF SOUTH EAST ASIA WITH NEGROID APPEARANCE ARE IN FACT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF THE REGION. THEY ARE NOT 'LESSERS' OR 'POOR' THEY ARE THE BRINGERS OF CULTURE IN SE ASIA. Many originally came from Africa by way of India, hence the term 'Indo-China,' Indonesia.
See, "Chinese Scholars say first Chinese were African," WWW.RACEANDHISTORY.COM
Finally, the originally languages spoken in South China, Taiwan, Vietnam were Africoid languages and the people were Africoid. That may shock some, but there is documentation and recordings of journies to and from the Melanesian islands, South China and even the Americas by Africans from the 'wet' (lakefilled) Sahara and East Africa as early as 3000 BC ( see these pictures, http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
INTERESTED IN DOING FURTHER RESEARCH, SEE, "Susu Economics," pub. by www.AuthorHouse.com
HAIRSTYLES
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem3
CAPOIERA ANGOLA
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem2
also check www.suzar.com
www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html
Cantonese
Japanese
South Indian
Melanesian
Korean
In fact, African texts "THE BOOK OF ANI,' makes it clear that one group of Africans called the Anu migrated first to Mesopotamia, then to India, then all the way to Japan about 10,000 years ago. The Anu lived in the Sahara and Egypt and after warring with the rest of the Egyptians, they migrated eastward.
(see www.ghanaforum.com )
The Chinese language is believed to come from the super language called Manding-Kush. It is a proto-language that was spoken in the Sahara as early as 30,000 BC and is still a major language family today.
Manding-Kush includes the Afro-Asiatic languages (Arabic, Hebrew, Tiginya), the Ba-Ntu language family, the Niger-Kordofanian, the Ku$hitic, the Manding-Shi (language of prehistoric Blacks of America, still spoken by Black American Indians like the Wa$hitaw, Yamassee, Gwele, Afro-Darienite, some Afro-Mestizas (Mandinga) of Mexico, Choco, Black Californian, Caracoles, Guanini and others; see "A History of the African-Olmecs," published by www.AuthorHouse.com also see http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
In parts of Africa, particularly from Sudan to Senegal and from the Sahara to South Africa, there are thousands of names that are identical in sound to both Chinese and Japanese. For example, names like Kong, Cheng-cheng, Ming, Yang, Anyang (ancient Cameroon city), Kwango, Chu, Wong, Fang, Ndong, Deng, Ndongo (ancient kingdom of Angola) and others are all African names used today.
HOW DID AFRICAN NAMES GET TO CHINA
Well some of us know that humans left Africa about 40,000 years ago (modern humans without any hair on their bodies ) and migrated to Asia, Australia, India and Europe. In fact, the first people to leave Africa entered India. From India they moved into SE Asia, Australia. When the one-mile high ice sheet that covered Asia and Europe melted, they moved into Asia and Europe.
Furthermore, looking at the faces of at least 25 percent of Africans in places like Sudan and Congo to South Africa, one clearly sees many featurs found in East Asian people and many found in East Indian people. In fact, the Kong-San of South Africa and tens of millions of Africans in the region where climatic conditions are as harsh as East Asia, do have similar facial characteristics as East Asians.
Yet, Africans have had these features for over one million years (high cheekbones, epicantus fold, ect., but black to brown skins, kinky hair, small to tall stature). Hence let's say the Africans who migrated to China about 40,000 years ago had features like the Kong-San.
Names and words that are identical and similar to Japanese words with similar meanings are found in parts of East Africa and in the Kalabari region of Nigeria ( see www.ghanaforum.com )
AFRICAN CU$hitIC LANGUAGES IN SOUTH INDIA
Many of the languages and in fact the people of South India are of direct African origins. The Sudra, Untouchables and many of the groups from Sri-Lanka to Bangladesh are also of ancient African origins and their languages are related to African languages found in Eastern Africa.
see http://dalitstan.org/books/sudroid
http://dalitstan.org/sudroid/books
In the case of the Philipines, some of the languages and peoples in parts of the Philipines are also of African origins. THE AUSTRIC PEOPLE OF SOUTH EAST ASIA WITH NEGROID APPEARANCE ARE IN FACT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF THE REGION. THEY ARE NOT 'LESSERS' OR 'POOR' THEY ARE THE BRINGERS OF CULTURE IN SE ASIA. Many originally came from Africa by way of India, hence the term 'Indo-China,' Indonesia.
See, "Chinese Scholars say first Chinese were African," WWW.RACEANDHISTORY.COM
Finally, the originally languages spoken in South China, Taiwan, Vietnam were Africoid languages and the people were Africoid. That may shock some, but there is documentation and recordings of journies to and from the Melanesian islands, South China and even the Americas by Africans from the 'wet' (lakefilled) Sahara and East Africa as early as 3000 BC ( see these pictures, http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
INTERESTED IN DOING FURTHER RESEARCH, SEE, "Susu Economics," pub. by www.AuthorHouse.com
HAIRSTYLES
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem3
CAPOIERA ANGOLA
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem2
also check www.suzar.com
www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html
http://www.ghanaforum.com
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html
http://www.suzar.com
all race came from africa. so what are you trying to prove?
A tad afrocentric, don't you think?
If they can't claim the European culture, they might as well try to claim the Asian.
JK.
JK.
QUOTE (AgentBach @ Aug 8 2005, 10:04 PM)
If they can't claim the European culture, they might as well try to claim the Asian.
JK.
JK.
I've seen Afrocentrist websites claim Europe and/or Asian culture. It's all bull$hit.
An Afrocentrist, Eurocentrist, etc. have no credibility whatsoever.
Jesus is Black.
Isn't it funny how everything comes from Africa yet Africa is the least developed in the world?
That is because the White Man repeatedly raped Africa until she was barren, depressed and indignant
...someone delete this offensive thread- its offensive to linguists of all colors
Yes it is. Yes it is.
Just give it a week. And it shall go away...
Just give it a week. And it shall go away...
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 8 2005, 08:55 PM)
Yes it is. Yes it is.
Just give it a week. And it shall go away...
Just give it a week. And it shall go away...
lol we actually found something to agree on
QUOTE (nubianem @ Aug 9 2005, 11:09 AM)
African linguists have pointed out that at least five Asian major languages are of African origins. They are:
Cantonese
Japanese
South Indian
Melanesian
Korean
In fact, African texts "THE BOOK OF ANI,' makes it clear that one group of Africans called the Anu migrated first to Mesopotamia, then to India, then all the way to Japan about 10,000 years ago. The Anu lived in the Sahara and Egypt and after warring with the rest of the Egyptians, they migrated eastward.
(see www.ghanaforum.com )
The Chinese language is believed to come from the super language called Manding-Kush. It is a proto-language that was spoken in the Sahara as early as 30,000 BC and is still a major language family today.
Manding-Kush includes the Afro-Asiatic languages (Arabic, Hebrew, Tiginya), the Ba-Ntu language family, the Niger-Kordofanian, the Ku$hitic, the Manding-Shi (language of prehistoric Blacks of America, still spoken by Black American Indians like the Wa$hitaw, Yamassee, Gwele, Afro-Darienite, some Afro-Mestizas (Mandinga) of Mexico, Choco, Black Californian, Caracoles, Guanini and others; see "A History of the African-Olmecs," published by www.AuthorHouse.com also see http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
In parts of Africa, particularly from Sudan to Senegal and from the Sahara to South Africa, there are thousands of names that are identical in sound to both Chinese and Japanese. For example, names like Kong, Cheng-cheng, Ming, Yang, Anyang (ancient Cameroon city), Kwango, Chu, Wong, Fang, Ndong, Deng, Ndongo (ancient kingdom of Angola) and others are all African names used today.
HOW DID AFRICAN NAMES GET TO CHINA
Well some of us know that humans left Africa about 40,000 years ago (modern humans without any hair on their bodies ) and migrated to Asia, Australia, India and Europe. In fact, the first people to leave Africa entered India. From India they moved into SE Asia, Australia. When the one-mile high ice sheet that covered Asia and Europe melted, they moved into Asia and Europe.
Furthermore, looking at the faces of at least 25 percent of Africans in places like Sudan and Congo to South Africa, one clearly sees many featurs found in East Asian people and many found in East Indian people. In fact, the Kong-San of South Africa and tens of millions of Africans in the region where climatic conditions are as harsh as East Asia, do have similar facial characteristics as East Asians.
Yet, Africans have had these features for over one million years (high cheekbones, epicantus fold, ect., but black to brown skins, kinky hair, small to tall stature). Hence let's say the Africans who migrated to China about 40,000 years ago had features like the Kong-San.
Names and words that are identical and similar to Japanese words with similar meanings are found in parts of East Africa and in the Kalabari region of Nigeria ( see www.ghanaforum.com )
AFRICAN CU$hitIC LANGUAGES IN SOUTH INDIA
Many of the languages and in fact the people of South India are of direct African origins. The Sudra, Untouchables and many of the groups from Sri-Lanka to Bangladesh are also of ancient African origins and their languages are related to African languages found in Eastern Africa.
see http://dalitstan.org/books/sudroid
http://dalitstan.org/sudroid/books
In the case of the Philipines, some of the languages and peoples in parts of the Philipines are also of African origins. THE AUSTRIC PEOPLE OF SOUTH EAST ASIA WITH NEGROID APPEARANCE ARE IN FACT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF THE REGION. THEY ARE NOT 'LESSERS' OR 'POOR' THEY ARE THE BRINGERS OF CULTURE IN SE ASIA. Many originally came from Africa by way of India, hence the term 'Indo-China,' Indonesia.
See, "Chinese Scholars say first Chinese were African," WWW.RACEANDHISTORY.COM
Finally, the originally languages spoken in South China, Taiwan, Vietnam were Africoid languages and the people were Africoid. That may shock some, but there is documentation and recordings of journies to and from the Melanesian islands, South China and even the Americas by Africans from the 'wet' (lakefilled) Sahara and East Africa as early as 3000 BC ( see these pictures, http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
INTERESTED IN DOING FURTHER RESEARCH, SEE, "Susu Economics," pub. by www.AuthorHouse.com
HAIRSTYLES
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem3
CAPOIERA ANGOLA
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem2
also check www.suzar.com
www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html
Cantonese
Japanese
South Indian
Melanesian
Korean
In fact, African texts "THE BOOK OF ANI,' makes it clear that one group of Africans called the Anu migrated first to Mesopotamia, then to India, then all the way to Japan about 10,000 years ago. The Anu lived in the Sahara and Egypt and after warring with the rest of the Egyptians, they migrated eastward.
(see www.ghanaforum.com )
The Chinese language is believed to come from the super language called Manding-Kush. It is a proto-language that was spoken in the Sahara as early as 30,000 BC and is still a major language family today.
Manding-Kush includes the Afro-Asiatic languages (Arabic, Hebrew, Tiginya), the Ba-Ntu language family, the Niger-Kordofanian, the Ku$hitic, the Manding-Shi (language of prehistoric Blacks of America, still spoken by Black American Indians like the Wa$hitaw, Yamassee, Gwele, Afro-Darienite, some Afro-Mestizas (Mandinga) of Mexico, Choco, Black Californian, Caracoles, Guanini and others; see "A History of the African-Olmecs," published by www.AuthorHouse.com also see http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
In parts of Africa, particularly from Sudan to Senegal and from the Sahara to South Africa, there are thousands of names that are identical in sound to both Chinese and Japanese. For example, names like Kong, Cheng-cheng, Ming, Yang, Anyang (ancient Cameroon city), Kwango, Chu, Wong, Fang, Ndong, Deng, Ndongo (ancient kingdom of Angola) and others are all African names used today.
HOW DID AFRICAN NAMES GET TO CHINA
Well some of us know that humans left Africa about 40,000 years ago (modern humans without any hair on their bodies ) and migrated to Asia, Australia, India and Europe. In fact, the first people to leave Africa entered India. From India they moved into SE Asia, Australia. When the one-mile high ice sheet that covered Asia and Europe melted, they moved into Asia and Europe.
Furthermore, looking at the faces of at least 25 percent of Africans in places like Sudan and Congo to South Africa, one clearly sees many featurs found in East Asian people and many found in East Indian people. In fact, the Kong-San of South Africa and tens of millions of Africans in the region where climatic conditions are as harsh as East Asia, do have similar facial characteristics as East Asians.
Yet, Africans have had these features for over one million years (high cheekbones, epicantus fold, ect., but black to brown skins, kinky hair, small to tall stature). Hence let's say the Africans who migrated to China about 40,000 years ago had features like the Kong-San.
Names and words that are identical and similar to Japanese words with similar meanings are found in parts of East Africa and in the Kalabari region of Nigeria ( see www.ghanaforum.com )
AFRICAN CU$hitIC LANGUAGES IN SOUTH INDIA
Many of the languages and in fact the people of South India are of direct African origins. The Sudra, Untouchables and many of the groups from Sri-Lanka to Bangladesh are also of ancient African origins and their languages are related to African languages found in Eastern Africa.
see http://dalitstan.org/books/sudroid
http://dalitstan.org/sudroid/books
In the case of the Philipines, some of the languages and peoples in parts of the Philipines are also of African origins. THE AUSTRIC PEOPLE OF SOUTH EAST ASIA WITH NEGROID APPEARANCE ARE IN FACT THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF THE REGION. THEY ARE NOT 'LESSERS' OR 'POOR' THEY ARE THE BRINGERS OF CULTURE IN SE ASIA. Many originally came from Africa by way of India, hence the term 'Indo-China,' Indonesia.
See, "Chinese Scholars say first Chinese were African," WWW.RACEANDHISTORY.COM
Finally, the originally languages spoken in South China, Taiwan, Vietnam were Africoid languages and the people were Africoid. That may shock some, but there is documentation and recordings of journies to and from the Melanesian islands, South China and even the Americas by Africans from the 'wet' (lakefilled) Sahara and East Africa as early as 3000 BC ( see these pictures, http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
INTERESTED IN DOING FURTHER RESEARCH, SEE, "Susu Economics," pub. by www.AuthorHouse.com
HAIRSTYLES
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem3
CAPOIERA ANGOLA
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem2
also check www.suzar.com
www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html
You're posting bosta. Your sources are a bunch of afrocentrist sites and, furthermore, your claims are completely incorrect
Afro
haha funny
haha funny
QUOTE (tree @ Aug 8 2005, 11:13 PM)
QUOTE (AgentBach @ Aug 8 2005, 10:04 PM)
If they can't claim the European culture, they might as well try to claim the Asian.
JK.
JK.
I've seen Afrocentrist websites claim Europe and/or Asian culture. It's all bull$hit.
An Afrocentrist, Eurocentrist, etc. have no credibility whatsoever.
Well Eurocentrists have no credibility but there is a certain degree of truth behind the Afrocentrist claims. I mean all humans came out of Africa and just about last human being on this earth has some sort of African genes but that was so long ago that it's irrelevant. I mean come on we're talking about 60,000 years ago or more. I mean did even Africans at that time consider them African? Whatever African blood I have in me was so long ago and insignificant that it's pointless. This was long before human civilization and history was even recorded. Long before there was even a Japanese civilization to be found. If you're going to make the argument that I'm African, I might as well say that I'm originally a primate because primates were before Africoid humans lol.
I don't know why you guys are offended, and why they take pride in afrocentric theories. Asians came from Africa? Ok, maybe. So what? Does that make Africa suddenly more significant or Africans superior? No.
Japanese language is related to the Turanian language of Hungarian.
Too funny Masao.
A lot of African names sort of sound Japanese.
QUOTE (sirgika @ Aug 9 2005, 11:02 AM)
A lot of African names sort of sound Japanese.
and a lot of polynesian islands sounds sort japanese too
My mum says there's a lot of black people in China.
QUOTE (transtic @ Aug 9 2005, 02:00 PM)
My mum says there's a lot of black people in China.
as far as i know ,94% of chinese population are han chinese,and 6% are the 55 minorities
so go figure,and say hey to your mom for me,tell her to take a trip to china see it her self
My mum is a wise and intelligent woman. My mum knows everything. EVERYTHING.
^there are very little black people in Africa.
Africans today would still be hunting wild game and not knowing how to farm if the Europeans didn't colonize. Europeans aren't responsible for famine, tropical diseases and tribal warfare.
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 9 2005, 12:44 PM)
That is because the White Man repeatedly raped Africa until she was barren, depressed and indignant
Africans today would still be hunting wild game and not knowing how to farm if the Europeans didn't colonize. Europeans aren't responsible for famine, tropical diseases and tribal warfare.
QUOTE (PanzerRon @ Aug 9 2005, 03:31 PM)
^there are very little black people in Africa.
Africans today would still be hunting wild game and not knowing how to farm if the Europeans didn't colonize. Europeans aren't responsible for famine, tropical diseases and tribal warfare.
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 9 2005, 12:44 PM)
That is because the White Man repeatedly raped Africa until she was barren, depressed and indignant
Africans today would still be hunting wild game and not knowing how to farm if the Europeans didn't colonize. Europeans aren't responsible for famine, tropical diseases and tribal warfare.
Farming started in the Middle east more than 10,000 years ago and spread north and south. So I doubt the europeans taught the Africans how to farm.
QUOTE (PanzerRon @ Aug 9 2005, 03:31 PM)
^there are very little black people in Africa.
Africans today would still be hunting wild game and not knowing how to farm if the Europeans didn't colonize. Europeans aren't responsible for famine, tropical diseases and tribal warfare.
QUOTE (RentonWong @ Aug 9 2005, 12:44 PM)
That is because the White Man repeatedly raped Africa until she was barren, depressed and indignant
Africans today would still be hunting wild game and not knowing how to farm if the Europeans didn't colonize. Europeans aren't responsible for famine, tropical diseases and tribal warfare.
Africans were farming before the Europeans even got there.
QUOTE
From Hunting to Farming
One of the more immediate ancestors of modern humans, Homo erectus, lived between 500 thousand and 1.5 million years ago and it is with this species that we see the first signs of organised hunting activity based around communities. They tended to live near water sources - along the banks of rivers or lakes.
On the basis of evidence found at one of Africa's most important geological sites, Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania, we know they constructed small structures made out of tree branches as shelter.
EVERYDAY LIFE
"The size of the shelters would suggest they lived in small family groups, and that each family would have its own residential unit.
The men would go out to hunt, and the women would have gone out to collect vegetable foods - roots, fruits, nuts and insects - that formed an important component of the diet. We know that boys were taught to become hunters and the girls gatherers."
Simiyu Wandibba, Professor of Anthropology at the University of Nairobi.
Listen to Professor Simiyu Wandibba on the early division of labour
Much of the evidence of the likely way of life in these early settlements comes from the study of communities such as the Khoisan of Botswana who still retain some elements of the hunting and gathering lifestyle.
Listen to a Khoisan community in Northern Botswana sing
When it came to hunting, early humans tended to seek out smaller animals such as rodents, and use clubs to kill them. They would avoid actually attacking larger animals such as giraffe, zebra or elephants, waiting for them to be killed by other beasts or die of natural causes.
By the middle and later stone age - between 150 and 40 thousand years ago - humans had developed more sophisticated tools, shaping stone points to use as spearheads and developing the bow and arrow. The spears could be tipped with a vegetable poison. They also used a wide range of implements made of bone that were used as needles or fish hooks.
THE RISE OF FARMING
We do not know how exactly it happened but around 10,000 years ago humans took a hugely important step that revolutionised life. They began to domesticate animals and cultivate crops.
However dramatic it may seem from our standpoint, it is likely that these developments occurred very gradually and over a long period of time.
SOCIAL ORGANISATION AND FOOD SOURCES
"After long periods of hunting and gathering we assume that these people did some experimentation with some of the plants and some of the animals. They found some animals - like the ancestor of the cow - were more friendly than others and so they brought them home and looked after them. With plants, they might try a fruit and someone dies, so they say, 'No, that's not a good fruit' and finally they would strike on the right plants and animals.
Once they have enough food, societies become more secure. Now people have time for each other. Men and women, the father and mother, have more time and one sees population explosion coming into being.
With more people you get more social stratification and specialisation. People become full time craftsmen and experts in different fields. This gives rise to trade and the first markets begin to emerge."
Henry Mutoro, Associate Professor of Archaeology, University of Nairobi.
The main crops to be developed were cereals such as wheat, barley, sorghum and millet. Some areas produced their own distinctive grains such as the Ethiopian highlands where the staple food 'tef' is still used to make the spongy traditional bread, injera.
Domestication of animals such as sheep and goats as well as the cultivation of plants meant that early humans were able to settle for longer periods of time in one area so they could oversee the sowing and reaping of crops. This meant that shelters became more permanent constructions made of mud or brick. The communities also needed more implements such as stones for grinding and pots for storage.
However, one of the main results of domestication was a rapid increase in population.
Food surplus could now be traded with other communities such as those who had retained a hunting and gathering tradition. Maize, for example, might be traded for a supply of wild honey.
ART
A more settled lifestyle also prompted people to express themselves through arts and crafts. Of all the continents, Africa is one of the richest in rock art. Images painted with vegetable dye adorn caves in the Sahara, Tanzania and South Africa. Such art gives us a unique glimpse into the life of these people, showing them not only at work - hunting and fishing - but also at play, dancing and socialising.
"The various scenes depicted in African rock art can be said to be a sort of documentary film of everyday life in prehistoric times."
Burkinabe historian Professor Joseph Ki- Zerbo, Unesco General History of Africa.
"Art reflects but also stimulates action and these prehistoric carvings and paintings proclaim the relentless struggle of African man to dominate nature but also to add to his own nature through the divine joy of creation."
One of the more immediate ancestors of modern humans, Homo erectus, lived between 500 thousand and 1.5 million years ago and it is with this species that we see the first signs of organised hunting activity based around communities. They tended to live near water sources - along the banks of rivers or lakes.
On the basis of evidence found at one of Africa's most important geological sites, Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania, we know they constructed small structures made out of tree branches as shelter.
EVERYDAY LIFE
"The size of the shelters would suggest they lived in small family groups, and that each family would have its own residential unit.
The men would go out to hunt, and the women would have gone out to collect vegetable foods - roots, fruits, nuts and insects - that formed an important component of the diet. We know that boys were taught to become hunters and the girls gatherers."
Simiyu Wandibba, Professor of Anthropology at the University of Nairobi.
Listen to Professor Simiyu Wandibba on the early division of labour
Much of the evidence of the likely way of life in these early settlements comes from the study of communities such as the Khoisan of Botswana who still retain some elements of the hunting and gathering lifestyle.
Listen to a Khoisan community in Northern Botswana sing
When it came to hunting, early humans tended to seek out smaller animals such as rodents, and use clubs to kill them. They would avoid actually attacking larger animals such as giraffe, zebra or elephants, waiting for them to be killed by other beasts or die of natural causes.
By the middle and later stone age - between 150 and 40 thousand years ago - humans had developed more sophisticated tools, shaping stone points to use as spearheads and developing the bow and arrow. The spears could be tipped with a vegetable poison. They also used a wide range of implements made of bone that were used as needles or fish hooks.
THE RISE OF FARMING
We do not know how exactly it happened but around 10,000 years ago humans took a hugely important step that revolutionised life. They began to domesticate animals and cultivate crops.
However dramatic it may seem from our standpoint, it is likely that these developments occurred very gradually and over a long period of time.
SOCIAL ORGANISATION AND FOOD SOURCES
"After long periods of hunting and gathering we assume that these people did some experimentation with some of the plants and some of the animals. They found some animals - like the ancestor of the cow - were more friendly than others and so they brought them home and looked after them. With plants, they might try a fruit and someone dies, so they say, 'No, that's not a good fruit' and finally they would strike on the right plants and animals.
Once they have enough food, societies become more secure. Now people have time for each other. Men and women, the father and mother, have more time and one sees population explosion coming into being.
With more people you get more social stratification and specialisation. People become full time craftsmen and experts in different fields. This gives rise to trade and the first markets begin to emerge."
Henry Mutoro, Associate Professor of Archaeology, University of Nairobi.
The main crops to be developed were cereals such as wheat, barley, sorghum and millet. Some areas produced their own distinctive grains such as the Ethiopian highlands where the staple food 'tef' is still used to make the spongy traditional bread, injera.
Domestication of animals such as sheep and goats as well as the cultivation of plants meant that early humans were able to settle for longer periods of time in one area so they could oversee the sowing and reaping of crops. This meant that shelters became more permanent constructions made of mud or brick. The communities also needed more implements such as stones for grinding and pots for storage.
However, one of the main results of domestication was a rapid increase in population.
Food surplus could now be traded with other communities such as those who had retained a hunting and gathering tradition. Maize, for example, might be traded for a supply of wild honey.
ART
A more settled lifestyle also prompted people to express themselves through arts and crafts. Of all the continents, Africa is one of the richest in rock art. Images painted with vegetable dye adorn caves in the Sahara, Tanzania and South Africa. Such art gives us a unique glimpse into the life of these people, showing them not only at work - hunting and fishing - but also at play, dancing and socialising.
"The various scenes depicted in African rock art can be said to be a sort of documentary film of everyday life in prehistoric times."
Burkinabe historian Professor Joseph Ki- Zerbo, Unesco General History of Africa.
"Art reflects but also stimulates action and these prehistoric carvings and paintings proclaim the relentless struggle of African man to dominate nature but also to add to his own nature through the divine joy of creation."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/f...2chapter3.shtml
Historically Europeans haven't exactly been the best farmers if you get an accurate portrayal of African and American history. What they've learned was pretty much shown to them from indigenous natives.
cool so we can kinda speak african
QUOTE (kunomchu @ Aug 9 2005, 12:42 AM)
Isn't it funny how everything comes from Africa yet Africa is the least developed in the world?
Actually Kunomchu, AFRICA IS THE MOST DEVELOPED REGION IN THE WORLD AFTER NORTH AMERICA.
When you say 'developed' are you speaking of large cities and skyscrapers?
I am speaking of resources, capital, intellectual resources, capability.
However, Africans are selling their resources to foreigners (like oil) and African professtionals by the tens of thousands are working in Europe and the Americas. Africa's trillions of dollars are in European, American and Asian banks. Africa's scientists, engineers, physicists, nurses, doctors are in foreign nations.
If Africa was so 'underdeveloped' (with four times the size of United States and a billion people living on arable land at about 30 percent of the African continent, what do you expect.
Living on the African continent is a struggle. However, Africans have survived for 1 million years, they will survive for 1 million more.
Meanwhile, as soon as Africans begin to stop allowing the 'raw materially poor and leaching' nations to exploit Africa and Africa begins to make use of her own people to develop the Motherland, that is when Africans will move forward.
Africa unlike China, Japan, Korea, were not saved with billions of dollars after the Europeans and Arabs committed the worse atrocites on the continent and underdeveloped it ( HOW EUROPE UNDERDEVELOPED AFRICA, by Walter Rodney http://www.raceandhistory.com
also see http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire
http://www.suzar.com
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com
At the present moment, if Africa is so backward, why would China and Africa be corporating in certain areas of the economy in some African nations, see http://www.sudanforum.com After all, Africans have the skills, personnel and resources to develop Africa but Africa is also a very harsh place and the colonialists after ravaging Africa left it almost bare and removed about 100 million of the best Africans from Africa to the Americas, where they (the removers, slaves, ect) used their knowledge to build the Americas from Canada to Brazil (just as the Chinese and Japanese did as well from Canada to Brazil).
Today, 'new colonialists' are causing conflict in much of Africa as they look for resources.
Much of the 'underdevelopment' that appears on the news is nothing but the result of foreigers meddling in African affairs and arming one faction against another to commit genocide and to clear African lands so oil companies can drill for oil.
Sierre Leone, Sudan, Ghana, Syria, Egypt, Zimbabwe, Rwanda. All places that scare me.
dude i can give you like 7 black forums that i post on if you want to get into stuff like this. Although 5 of them will probably tell you to get lost.
QUOTE (HunterXHunter @ Aug 9 2005, 02:11 PM)
QUOTE (transtic @ Aug 9 2005, 02:00 PM)
My mum says there's a lot of black people in China.
as far as i know ,94% of chinese population are han chinese,and 6% are the 55 minorities
so go figure,and say hey to your mom for me,tell her to take a trip to china see it her self
Transtic obviously stole that quote from South Park.
So what's next , english came from china?
Or MinNan Taiwanese is not Chinese language?
QUOTE (Jasel @ Aug 9 2005, 08:11 PM)
dude i can give you like 7 black forums that i post on if you want to get into stuff like this. Although 5 of them will probably tell you to get lost.
WELL, I TRIED, I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE SOME JAPANESE HERE WHO WOULD HELP ME OUT SO I CAN DO THIS RESEARCH PAPER.
NOW, I HAVE TO CHECK THE REST OF THE INTERNET OR THE LIBRARY TO FIND THE CONNECTIONS.
YOUR MUM WAS RIGHT. In Kenya, we know for a fact that there are groups like the Anuak and Tibbou who look exactly like Australian Aborigines. We also know that about 100,000 years ago and continuously up to 2000 BC, Africans migrated to India, Melanesia, Australia, SE Asia, China and Japan.
When we say Black People in China, we are not talking about the 7-foot Dinka, Nuer and Nuba (many whose names sound identical to Chinese names like Deng, Kong, and so on). We are speaking of groups like the Montagnards of Vietnam, Agta of the Philipines, Nahki of remote Southern China (and the Mountains), the Melanesians, the Semang of Malaysia and others.
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html
http://www.aboriginalaustralia.com
I am not saying that there are tens of millions of Africoids/Negroids in China today. However the blood group 'b' clearly shows that they existed throughout China and became absorbed in the Southern Chinese population.
If not, why do Uigers (we-gurs) of Western China look like Turkish Mongols while some Chinese in Southern China and Africans, African-Americans, other Blacks have similar features?
Look at these Kong-San from South Africa
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem
BLACK HAIRSTYLES:
http://community.webtv.net/nubianem3
There are about 500 million Negroids from India to Melanesia/Australia. There are some in SE Asia, in the Philipines, so why not China?
JAPANESE, CHINESE, KOREAN, EAST INDIAN, MELANESIAN LANGUAGES ORIGINATED IN AFRICA:
See the research
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/links_to_ja..._african_la.htm
http://www.stewartsynopsis.com
http://www.suzar.com
http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire
I see the term 'Afrocentric' being used as a negative.
Well, Afrocentric means 'African Centered,' and it is a very ancient concept that has been around for over three thousand years.
Afrocentricity is a branch of MAAT (Truth and Right) that developed in North-East Africa (Egypt, Kush, Nubia) when the Hyksos invaded Egypt and destroyed the culture, burned books and tried to impose their language, religion, culture and people on the Blacks of ancient Egypt. This is similar to what is happening in Sudan and parts of Europe and SE Asia today, where elements from the Middle East or from elselwhere are spreading their religion and ideologies on others.
Anyway, Ahmose 1, a Black Egyptian liberator ( here is a picture of him http://community.webtv.net/nubianem ) fought a war against the Hyksos (Hyk-shasu) and drove them out of Egypt after about 200 years of rule.
The Hyksos who were Semite barbarians and nomads ravaged Egypt and destroyed the culture to some extent. They tried to introduce their own culture and religion on the Egyptians, that is when the idea of 'Khemetic Maat' or 'Egyptian Truth and Right' became the philosophy to reeducate the Egyptians about their lost history and culture and to revive and rebuild what was destroyed.
So, Afrocentric education today does exactly that because since the 1500's, the Europeans have totally destroyed African religion, culture and history. However, Afrocentric revival is rediscovering African/Black world history. Afrocentric education was revived in the Mid-1800's and after the Civil War by Black educators, historians and Black nationalists and Pan-Africanists like WEB Dubois and others.
Afrocentric education today includes about six 'schools."
1. The Khemitic revival about 1500 BC (Golden Age)
2. Ku$hite Period (700 BC to 325 AD)
3. Ghana-Wagadu including Muslim period 700 AD to the present see http://www.timbuktufoundation.org (West Africa) period (3000 BC to 1800 AD)
4. The Nubian and Ethiopian Christian Coptic period 300 AD to 1500 AD)
5. African-American school (1850's to the present: D.D. Houston, WEB DuBois, others, see http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/runoko.html ) This school also includes Ivan Van Sertima and others like Clyde A. Winters, the German Alexander Von Wuthenau and their work on the ancient Black Africoid Olmecs of Mexico/Central America and other prehistoric Blacks of America (WHO MIGRATED FROM WEST AFRICA, SAHARA AND NUBIA-EGYPT ABOUT 3113 BC; ANOTHER MIGRATION OF BLACK AFRICANS TOOK PLACE ABOUT 1000 BC FROM THE ASIA REGION TO MEXICO) http://community.webtv.net/pabarton
6. African school (1950's to the present; Diop, Obenga, Diouf, others)
7. Afro-Caribbean/Afro-French school (1950's to the present; various writers, scientists, others)
8. Indo-Negroid/Dalit consciousness school (1940's to the present; with Ambedkar, Rajshekar, Gopinath, others)
9. Melanesian/Papuan school; 1960's to the present (see "The Black Untouchables of India," by VT Rajshekar, YN Kly, Runoko Rashidia; see the quotes of Ben Tangghama, the former Foreign Minister of Papua New Guinea about the connections between Blacks of Asia and those of Africa)
So, 'Afrocentric' is a positive, because it is based on a very ancient concept of NOT BURNING BOOKS AND RECORDS, AND SAVING, REVIVING AND APPRECIATING HISTORY AFTER THE CULTURE HAS BEEN SACKED, INVADED OR RAVAGED.
This is what happened to our people since the 1500's and it is our duty to correct it by learning about our past.
HE WHO KNOWS NOT WHERE HE/SHE CAME FROM, KNOWS NOT WHERE HE/SHE IS GOING.
'MUM' IS BRITISH, ISN'T IT, 'MOM' IS YANK.
AFROCENTRICITY IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH AND IT INCLUDES ABOUT FIVE AREAS OF STUDY:
History
Linguistics
Genetics
Cultural similarities
Racial similarities
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Here is an article about Afrocentric education and research by Clyde A. Winters
http://community.webtv.net/paulnubiaempire
go to http://www.indiaforum.com
WHERE LANGUAGES CAME FROM ORIGINALLY:
http://geocities.com/Athens/Academy/8919/tamana9.htm
ANCIENT MANDING-SHI CULTURE OF MEXICO/CENTRAL AMERICA
http://geocities.com/Athens/Academy/8919/olmeckings.htm
Makubwa's homepage
http://geocities.com/Athens/Academy/8919/index.html
NO INDIGENOUS BLACKS IN CHINA? HOW ABOUT TAIWAN?
http://www.taipeitimes.com/news/front
dude go to www.blacktokyo.com or forum.japantoday.com because there aren't that many Japanese members here to begin with and the ones who are will probably piss on themselves trying to flame you anyway for posting this 
Whether this is true or not , it sounds like a rather bold statement. Cantonese , Korean , and Japanese came from Africa??? hmm....
Nani?...... I agree with taiwan_honbura. i highly doubt that japanese came from south africa. It couldnt be relativly possible at all, seeing how japan and africa are no where near each other.
Well languages can spread via a number of ways migration being one of them. Languages adapt and change over time as well. Location is a factor but not always a detriment. However I don't know anything about Japanese or any African languages so whatever.
QUOTE (Shao @ Aug 10 2005, 11:57 AM)
QUOTE (HunterXHunter @ Aug 9 2005, 02:11 PM)
QUOTE (transtic @ Aug 9 2005, 02:00 PM)
My mum says there's a lot of black people in China.
as far as i know ,94% of chinese population are han chinese,and 6% are the 55 minorities
so go figure,and say hey to your mom for me,tell her to take a trip to china see it her self
Transtic obviously stole that quote from South Park.
I DID NO SUCH THING!
Nubianem, I suggest posting your questions here:
Nile Valley Civilization
http://phpbb-host.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=thenile
Though it’s mainly for discussions regarding Ancient Egypt, you can’t post any African related topics in the General Section. The people on the Nile Valley Civilization forum are mature and very knowledgeable of linguistics, genetics, anthropology, etc. Someone should be able to help you or point you in the right direction.
Anyway, interesting post and I will be looking into this when I get a chance.
Nile Valley Civilization
http://phpbb-host.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=thenile
Though it’s mainly for discussions regarding Ancient Egypt, you can’t post any African related topics in the General Section. The people on the Nile Valley Civilization forum are mature and very knowledgeable of linguistics, genetics, anthropology, etc. Someone should be able to help you or point you in the right direction.
Anyway, interesting post and I will be looking into this when I get a chance.
Japanese language is clearly not of African origin.
As I stated earlier, it is related to Hungarian. If you also knew of Hungarian language, this is undenieable, the two languages are about very very close, they have many words that resemble each other, which even mean the same things.
As I stated earlier, it is related to Hungarian. If you also knew of Hungarian language, this is undenieable, the two languages are about very very close, they have many words that resemble each other, which even mean the same things.
QUOTE (Matsuoka_NSJAP @ Aug 10 2005, 08:07 AM)
Japanese language is clearly not of African origin.
As I stated earlier, it is related to Hungarian. If you also knew of Hungarian language, this is undenieable, the two languages are about very very close, they have many words that resemble each other, which even mean the same things.
As I stated earlier, it is related to Hungarian. If you also knew of Hungarian language, this is undenieable, the two languages are about very very close, they have many words that resemble each other, which even mean the same things.
Post your source for this information. It's not clear to me.
QUOTE (nubianem @ Aug 8 2005, 09:09 PM)
African linguists have pointed out that at least five Asian major languages are of African origins. They are:
Cantonese
Japanese
South Indian
Melanesian
Korean
Cantonese
Japanese
South Indian
Melanesian
Korean
On second reading, nothing in your post proves that the Japanese language has West African origins. Sorry buddy, but you have to come better than this. I can see Southern India, because the indigenous Dravidian Dalit's are believed to have African (Ethiopian) origins by some scholars, but I will have to double check.
Where did you get Japanese language has West African origins?
Turan
Turanian Languages
If you are to read those, you will see that Japanese language would be more closer to languages like Turkish, and not languages from Africa.
Turanian Languages
If you are to read those, you will see that Japanese language would be more closer to languages like Turkish, and not languages from Africa.
LOL that nibianem fool is trying to label agta as negroids??
They are austroloids not negroids, and they originated from India.
Get your facts straight, fool.
They are austroloids not negroids, and they originated from India.
Get your facts straight, fool.
QUOTE (transtic @ Aug 10 2005, 07:23 AM)
I DID NO SUCH THING!
Shut up, fatass. OH MY GOD, YOU KILLED KENNY!
QUOTE (Matsuoka_NSJAP @ Aug 10 2005, 05:07 AM)
Japanese language is clearly not of African origin.
As I stated earlier, it is related to Hungarian. If you also knew of Hungarian language, this is undenieable, the two languages are about very very close, they have many words that resemble each other, which even mean the same things.
As I stated earlier, it is related to Hungarian. If you also knew of Hungarian language, this is undenieable, the two languages are about very very close, they have many words that resemble each other, which even mean the same things.
wow, i actually found a forum that specializes in this....
http://www.celifornia.com/forum/index.php
Somehow, those countries do have their own written evidences of how their languages were created and they don't need others to tell them about that.
QUOTE (transtic @ Aug 9 2005, 11:13 AM)
My mum is a wise and intelligent woman. My mum knows everything. EVERYTHING.
Your mom is retarded.
QUOTE (dzr @ Aug 11 2005, 05:38 AM)
QUOTE (transtic @ Aug 9 2005, 11:13 AM)
My mum is a wise and intelligent woman. My mum knows everything. EVERYTHING.
Your mom is retarded.
My mother says you're a meanie.
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