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namjanurse7
As you can tell from my I.D my major is nursing
There are a lot of filipinos in all my nursing classes.
Why is there soo many filipinos majoring in nursing and also many filipino nurses in california?
also when i was doing community service at a retirement home, 90% of the workers were filipino why nursing?
PepsiCola
Because filipinos are natural care givers.
redhotchili
I think it's in our nature to be caring. That's what foreigners say, at least icon_redface.gif
Zelnom
Good money and they're in demand.
ronin
I don’t know. I’ve been asking that question myself. None of my relatives in my family clan who are related to me by blood are nurses or work at a hospital. However, some of my uncles' wives whom they met here in the US are nurses. My cousin is studying to be a doctor though. I visited my Aunt recently at a Catholic hospital in the suburbs of Chi-town and I didn’t see a lot of Filipino nurses there. Only a few. I’m thinking you’re in California or Hawaii where you would see 90% of Fil-Ams as nurses at a hospital. At least they came here as legal educated professionals that the US can utilize instead of as friggin’ border illegals and boat refugees like some other ethnicities and nationalities.
There’s a lot of shortage of nurses in the U.S. because a lot of native born American students aren’t interested in studying nursing or medicine. Probably because of the American public education system here where learning science and math is low compared to other countries in all of Europe and most of Asia. So hospitals have to recruit foreigners from Philippines, South Korea, UK, Russia, South Africa, etc to work as nurses so long as the medical schools and facilities there are modern. My mom’s family doctor is a British Asian Indian.
Personally the P.I. need to really boost up it’s economy like investing in indigenous computer and automobile technology that can exported as products to other countries that can use them and become a heavy industrialized country where the GDP would be equal to western countries. That way you wouldn’t see a lot of Filipinos leave the P.I. in droves to work as nurses or oil workers. That’s not good for the people in the P.I. especially in rural areas that a lot of Filipino Nurses are leaving to work abroad permanently. I read about this in a local Fil-Am newspapeer. BTW, check the US Navy and US Marine Corps or American Airlines and United Airlines, and you’ll probably see a lot of Fil-Ams there too. icon_wink.gif
JMAC
strange phenomenon ideed...that or accounting embarassedlaugh.gif
BatangDamo
in some cases Filipino layers, doctors, and businessmen in the Philippines study nursing to get jobs in the U.S.
JuliusMariaLourdes
QUOTE (BatangDamo @ Aug 23 2005, 12:56 PM)
in some cases Filipino layers, doctors, and businessmen in the Philippines study nursing to get jobs in the U.S.
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This is true. Our family pediatrician back home (Philippines) studied BSN - or Bachelor of Science in Nursing. He took the Philippine Nursing Board Exams and topped it. #1. (as expected!). He came to the US and worked as a Nurse but at the same time ... he also took the USMLE (United States Medical Licensure Exam.) and passed steps 1, 2, & 3. He underwent the arduous task of being in the waiting list in applying for medical residency... but finally made it after 2 years of waiting. He's now a fellow in Pediatrics in the Los Angeles area.
kunomchu
nurses are in high demand yet their pay isn't as good. fu-ked up if u ask me.
Kanlungan
People want MORE money. I know some peeps in my highschool who wanted to go abroad through nursing and these peeps even change their mobile phones twice a year?

Reason(IMHO)? - Personal Greed!
Zelnom
QUOTE (ronin @ Aug 23 2005, 06:31 AM)
There’s a lot of shortage of nurses in the U.S. because a lot of native born American students aren’t interested in studying nursing or medicine. Probably because of the American public education system here where learning science and math is low compared to other countries in all of Europe and most of Asia. So hospitals have to recruit foreigners from Philippines, South Korea, UK, Russia, South Africa, etc to work as nurses so long as the medical schools and facilities there are modern. My mom’s family doctor is a British Asian Indian.


You're on the right track. There's a shortage of nurses in the US so they have to import nurses from other countries. And it's mostly from the Philipines because of the countries' similar university health care curriculums and teaching methods, making an eaier transition. Filipino nurses would also prefer to practice in the US because their salary would be higher than in the Philippines.
Forumwalker
it's this way..

1. americans hate caring for their own people and wiping sh*t so they dont go into health services.
2. the health services industry declines and demand for nurses are high.
3. nobody goes into nursing so they increase the pay plus additional incentives.
4. still, no american going into nursing.
5. government is forced to outsource from other countries.
6. philippines is in dire need of money, also the people.
7. filipinos are natural-born caregiving people.
8. filipino takes up nursing and works abroad.
9. filipino gets paid with dollars + incentives.
10. filipino has a higher paying job than ordinary american.. hehe
11. still, americans treat filipinos like they are nothing.
12. all filipinos go home. health industry falls and crumbles. american oldies die because of lack of care...
13. america falls. hahaha

the power of the first and only citizen of the world.. the filipino. hehe

if you notice that there are many filipinos in california, it's because of its proximity to the philippines and the weather... of course, just like home!!! ^_^
Kanlungan
We're sending out our nurses but come to think of it, we badly need nurses AND DOCTORS, too. It's not impossible that there would not be a single nurse in the Philippines one day.
PepsiCola
LOL I ended up in the US because my mom is a nurse.
LOL alot of women from my mom's side of the family who come from a small provinvicial village in Visayas are nurses in the US or inspiring to be one.
JuliusMariaLourdes
QUOTE (namjanurse7 @ Aug 22 2005, 03:38 PM)
As you can tell from my I.D  my major is nursing
There are a lot of filipinos in all my nursing classes.
Why is there soo many filipinos majoring in nursing and also many filipino nurses in california?
also when i was doing community service at a retirement home, 90% of the workers were filipino why nursing?
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^LOL. Ehem, where should I start?

Question: Why is there soo many filipinos majoring in nursing?
Answer: (Maybe) because Filipinos think that the nursing profession is a stable one.

Question: Why are there so many filipino nurses in california?
Answer: California is the state with the most numerous Filipino population. Google it, and you will know.

Question: "also when i was doing community service at a retirement home, 90% of the workers were filipino why nursing?"
Answer: same as my first answer. lol.
LallyJane
Because it's in demand in the U.S. and other part of the western world. It's all about economics.
kermit_criminal
Its because nursing is a stable field to be in, it is always in demand.

Filipinos are not like Americans in that they do not think they are too good to clean $hit.

my sister was a nurse in chicago for 8 years, after that she baught a lot in florida and now runs 3 nursing homes 4 years later.
Jason_so_brave
coz we're not creative enuff? lol just joking
sango27
25% of all nurses in the world are filipinos... according to a newspaper.. hehe... not impossible... I also want to be a nurse or dermatologist...
martin_nuke
Scandal in Philippines could affect healthcare in United States


Published September 2006


For years, hospitals and doctor's offices in the United States have sought the services of nurses from the Philippines to help curb the growing nursing shortage. However, a scandal in the Philippines-that 42,000 nursing graduates in June received test questions in advance-could hurt the reputations of the migrating nurses, The New York Times reports.

The article alleges that students who took prep classes with George Cordero, the president of the Philippine Nurses Association, received the exams. Cordero, who denies the report, has resigned from his position.

On Thursday, the Manila Standard Today reported that Filipino President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo has ordered retakes in areas where leaks were confirmed. Still, American recruiters, questioning the results and integrity of past exams, may now start shying away from Filipino nurses, according to experts cited by The Times.

http://www.hcpro.com/content/61665.cfm

'Scandal' Raises Questions About Filipino Nurses

August 22, 2006

The status of the Philippines "as one of the world's top producers of nurses could be threatened" after confirmation by the Filipino Professional Regulation Commission that hundreds of the 42,000 nursing school graduates who took Board of Nursing examinations in June received questions in advance, the New York Times reports. The Philippines serves as the main supplier of foreign nurses to the U.S., and a change in immigration law earlier this year removed the cap on the number of foreign nurses U.S. hospitals and clinics can hire.

However, the "scandal ... could greatly damage the status of Filipino nurses abroad," with some U.S. recruiters currently "turning away nurses who took the fraudulent board exams" and with many nurses who remain in the Philippines "having difficulty finding jobs," the Times reports.

According to initial allegations, George Cordero, at the time president of the Philippine Nurses Association, distributed board exam questions to nursing school graduates who took his coaching classes. In addition, Cordero allegedly bribed board examiners to obtain the questions in advance and paid for a trip to Switzerland for some board members.

Cordero has denied the allegations but has resigned as president of the association.

Industry groups have asked the commission to require nursing school graduates who took the exams in June to retake them to address the "tainted credibility of Filipino nurses here and abroad," but students who passed the exams maintain that they should not have to retake them (Conde, New York Times, 8/21).

http://www.californiahealthline.org/index....p;itemID=124523
psyche
filipinos are just being practical. Nursing is the clearest way to earn a living..you may call it lack of ambitions for us Filipinos but that is the most accessible way to our American dreams..
maharlika
Because it is the most economic profession as of present. If engineering becomes the job of necessity in the future, then most of us will become engineers. Due to our years of dealing with foreign invaders, we have become a people so adapted to adaptation and thus, survival.

We are not proud that we are good at becoming only medical professionals, but we take pride that we can be what we want ourselves to be... as in anything. Doctors, nurses, caregivers, merchant marine, engineers, teachers (to name a few)... you name it. Not to mention, with regards to our work ethics, our renown on how most of us work with such diligence.

I take pride and consider myself privileged to mention in my class here in the United States that the Philippines has a Constitution that mandates the Philippine government to appropriate the largest portion of funds (by percentage) in pursuit of educating the younglings of our nation.

We, Filipinos, had, have, and will always have a talent for survival even at the cause of shedding some of our cultural identity, and we will pursue such course as long as our families are safe and have a full meal each day.
perseus
Why nursing? Simple. It pays a lot (when I found out how much some nurses can make in California, I was floored) and for Filipinos in the Philippines, it's a way to get out of the country and make a lot more $$ abroad to support their families. The US Embassy makes it hard for Filipinos to immigrate to the US the traditional way (if they go easy on them, too many people will flee) and nursing makes it possible for Filipinos to leave the country since there's a huge demand for it around the world. Hospitals/employers even take care of the visas and paperwork and they have so many incentives for nurses because they're really desperate right now.

QUOTE(BatangDamo @ Aug 23 2005, 11:56 AM) [snapback]982820[/snapback]

in some cases Filipino layers, doctors, and businessmen in the Philippines study nursing to get jobs in the U.S.
Yup. It's pretty sad how some of these professionals give up their careers to become nurses, but I can't blame them because a lot of them feel like it's their one shot to get out of the country. My cousin in the Philippines is a doctor and you won't believe how low they get paid! Up to now, she still depends on her parents for money to go shopping even though she's already a doctor (yeah her salary is that low). Doctors in the Philippines either do it for the prestige or because they like their job. They sure aren't in it for the money.

Most Filipinos are practical and they usually go with whatever career is in demand/whatever can get them out of the country and or financial trouble. Years ago, it was physical therapy and computer science.

QUOTE(kunomchu @ Aug 23 2005, 12:28 PM) [snapback]982878[/snapback]

nurses are in high demand yet their pay isn't as good. fu-ked up if u ask me.
That's not true. They get paid well, at least where I live.
ross_diadame
nursing? - its wer ye can hav lotsa money... really!!
tho engineering is the top most paid job in dubai.

im a nurse now and i duno... i dont want to work in wards cuz its boring n i cant learn things excepr sit and do nursesnotes without even looking at yer patients cuz thats wat hapein in public hosp here in the phil...
i get bored easily.
i wanna work in ER OR or police rescues... or on aircrafts/sea wer theres adventure.
i wanna go to africa too to help... but before that im goin to buy lots lots of aything... weeeeee!!!

but no i dont dream of living in america or new zealad or uk...
mmm. japan maybe LOL...
Hensoldt
Why Nurses?

1. The US has a high demand for nurses.

2. It pays a lot of money. As in six figure income for the nurse alone, with overtime.

That's why Filipinos have one of the highest median income in the US.
FlipSides
My sis brother-in-law, which is a nurse (FOB, only 2 years), bought a 4 bedroom house, he pays the mortgage ... by himself. His parents and his sis with 3 kids lives with him, hes gay. When the house got blessed few months ago, big party too, his gay side was thru the roof that day, kinda irritates me. hay naku mga gahgahh!

Bading nga naman.



The EDGE
nurse is a good job
mongo
i'm studying to be a nurse biggrin.gif
lactobacillus
QUOTE(redhotchili @ Aug 23 2005, 02:31 PM) [snapback]981686[/snapback]

I think it's in our nature to be caring. That's what foreigners say, at least icon_redface.gif



You think so? laugh.gif
*promo
QUOTE(psyche @ Sep 11 2006, 02:51 AM) [snapback]2282329[/snapback]

filipinos are just being practical. Nursing is the clearest way to earn a living..you may call it lack of ambitions for us Filipinos but that is the most accessible way to our American dreams..



ummm ouch! Talktohand.gif

Iatros
QUOTE(namjanurse7 @ Aug 22 2005, 05:38 PM) [snapback]980746[/snapback]

As you can tell from my I.D my major is nursing
There are a lot of filipinos in all my nursing classes.
Why is there soo many filipinos majoring in nursing and also many filipino nurses in california?
also when i was doing community service at a retirement home, 90% of the workers were filipino why nursing?



Beats the hell out of me. Probably because it's the only jobs we or they can get? Actually, I became a nurse by accident. I wanted to join the infantry in the U.S. Army back in 1990, but for some reason I picked "Medical Specialist" as my MOS because it sounded cool (like a dummy). When I found out "Medical Specialist" was a new PC term for "Combat Medic" I didn't mind. Anyhoo, I became a medic in the reserves and when my unit was offering free LVN/LPN training, I took advantage of that and I've been a nurse ever since(not actually true, I've been a CNA, unit clerk, and telemetry tech as well). I'm going back to school because the next step for an LVN is RN. Since I'm an EMT-B as well, I'm taking(going to) Paramedic courses.

QUOTE(psyche @ Sep 11 2006, 04:51 AM) [snapback]2282329[/snapback]

filipinos are just being practical. Nursing is the clearest way to earn a living..you may call it lack of ambitions for us Filipinos but that is the most accessible way to our American dreams..



But it kinda sucks that you're only doing nursing because of the money doesn't it? I would rather be a firefighter or paramedic than a floor male nurse anyday. Gotta pay the bills though.

QUOTE(lactobacillus @ Mar 29 2007, 12:10 AM) [snapback]2822824[/snapback]

You think so? laugh.gif



Ummm...no.

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QUOTE(psyche @ Sep 11 2006, 04:51 AM) [snapback]2282329[/snapback]

filipinos are just being practical. Nursing is the clearest way to earn a living..you may call it lack of ambitions for us Filipinos but that is the most accessible way to our American dreams..



I disagree. You just have to go back to college, get that paper and be persistant in your job hunt. Nursing isn't the only job for Filipinos. Unless, you live in the PI and absolutely have no other options...then yeah.

Ilonggo
QUOTE(namjanurse7 @ Aug 22 2005, 06:38 PM) [snapback]980746[/snapback]

As you can tell from my I.D my major is nursing
There are a lot of filipinos in all my nursing classes.
Why is there soo many filipinos majoring in nursing and also many filipino nurses in california?
also when i was doing community service at a retirement home, 90% of the workers were filipino why nursing?





i guess it's a trend, lol. you know someone that's successful in that field, or you came from a family of caregiver, so you subconsciously wanna be like that person as well, IMO...
eldard
Why not? It's the easy way out?

You can also blame our Department of Education. Instead of encouraging people to get a formal education, they tell them to go for vocational instead so they'd land a job somewhere like Saudi as mananahi, weaver, sewing machine operator, thread kneader, manunulsi, and other very fulfilling jobs. embarassedlaugh.gif OUr country is governed by dumbasses that was voted to power by the dumb(m)asses.
kfd
There are a number of reasons for this:

1. There's a shortage of nurses in the States and in Canada; in Canada, there were tons of cuts made in the healthcare sector including educating its own nurses in 1990s...and to this day, they'd rather get nurses abroad who they can pay less money to (in comparison to their Canadian counterparts) than educating and creating Canadian nurses.

2. The person who made the post before me hit another point with the Filipino government not controlling the number of nursing schools popping out everywhere in the Philippines. There's no quota either to control the number of people who enter nursing schools. This leads to a problem of educating too many nurses who all plan to leave the country..and few people in other professions such as urban planning, education, government, etc.

3. A big part of the reason why the Filipino government refuses to control the number of nursing schools/students is because they know that other countries are in demand of nurses. Instead of spending money on providing social services, they depend on international nurses to send remittances back to their families. In many ways, the Filipino gov't is avoiding fiscal responsibility. Less services and gov't support means a lower quality of life which in turn, motivates people to get out of the country and nursing has been working as a ticket out for a long time now.

What bothers me is that few people stop to think how all these factors are interrelated. Filipinos are natural caregivers? That's bull$hit. They are no less natural caregivers than other cultures who are community-oriented. If other countries began to spend their own money on educating their own nurses or if the Filipino government stopped being so corrupt and the quality of life improved in the Philippines, people would have fewer reasons to turn to nursing as a lifetime career. How else do you explain Filipino doctors taking a "step down" to become nurses? They sadly found out that doctors are in less demand or have more trouble finding work in the States. In Canada, I don't think that would be so much as a problem since it has a doctor shortage..to the point where they're looking to South Africa for doctors right now.
linn82
my vote's on the huge nurse salary....j/k. honestly it's probably because we're family oriented and are natural caregivers, i suppose. it's not that difficult of a job, nursing i mean, and there's always much demand for it. let's carry on the trend icon_smile.gif
Mephisto
Filipinos are family oriented. We respect and care for our sick and elders.

I guess it has to do with how we are raised as a person.. our parents still carry us even we are old enough to walk, and it is still acceptable for the parents for their child to still live with them even they have already have a family of their own. In return, we show love and care until their dying days. It may have negative to some but it is the trait that make us unique that is how we bond as family.

That's why the world, not only the US or Canada, prefer Filipino nurse / caregiver because of how we Filipinos treat and care for their sick and aging relatives... and not only for caregiving homes, Filipino nurses are in demand also on hospitals.. The world needs our nurses and Filipinos took that opportunity
ilikechicken
Filipinos are "family oriented" when it comes to their own families. Other than that I would have to agree with what Kfd said. "They are no less natural caregivers than other cultures who are community-oriented."

Filipinos are opportunist and nursing is providing an opportunity for getting out of the country and having a better life.
makbats
Filipinos became the world's nurses because after world war II the education system was overhauled and ultimately had standards similar to the states. Having a similar educational system allowed hospitals in the states to trust the educational background of filipino nurses. During the 60's and 70's, due to many factors in the states, there were shortages of doctors of nurses. Seeing a great pool of reliable, educated talent the American hospitals honed in on the Philippines. The flood gates were opened. In the Philippines, seeing the success of the nurses and doctors in the states convinced others that medical careers were the ticket to their visa and success. That initial migration is considered to be a "Brain Drain" as not only did many of the top medical personnel leave the Philippines but many engineers and scientists did too. Ever since then, filipinos have pursued medical careers in the states, primarily nursing now.
martin_nuke
Because if you are a nurse especially a Man Nurse, this is an oppurtunity to be a UFC fighter just like Phillip Nover and Mark Munoz who were Man Nurses that became UFC fighters.
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