you obviously don't know the meaning of Third Reich. All people who support nazi does not have to have racist toward all other races. We only targeted one race and one only during the realm of Third Reich. And they were the Jews. If we had great racism toward other races, we might have already exterminated lot of those Middle Easterns in Africa and Egypt, but unlike we did to Jews, we did not killed them brutually. And those Chinese and Mongolian soldiers who were fighting for the Soviet Union, when they were captured by the Third Reich army during the Russian expansion, we did not brutually excuted them but used them as frontline soldiers. We gave them a chance and fight for the Third Reich.

Hitler did said he was going to create Aryan race in this world and exterminate the aliens/inhuman races. But some of us knew it was far from just a dream, but if that was possible, many Germans would still be racism toward on other races.

The word nazi implies racism. We are not stupid here. How can you be a nazi and not be a racist?

Please specify what kind of racism you mean.

Oh, you are such saints...

I do hate asians, blacks, jews, and mixed races.

Racism against the jewish. Dont tell me racism does not come to mind when you hear the word nazi Damo...

You just seem to have contridicted yourself.

racism and problems are two big different words.

It does, but only because of historical association between racism and the ideology of specifically the 20th century German Nazis.

National Socialism itself doesn't necessarily have to be racist, since it is mainly a political ideology, and 'nation' can be defined by factors other than race. Also, there are different kinds or 'levels' of racism.

However, since SS has confirmed that he is in fact a racist, I see no point in going into this topic in depth.

Focus on this.



So is there a difference between "great racism" and "racism"?

Either way I could care less what a racist Nazi thinks of us But just don't expect to receive any respect from people you hate.

hey guys we're gettin a lil off topic.

maybe u guys can start a new discussion in the "other culture" section to further talk about this.

Thanks for the reminder Nung, but when has that ever happened

"I do hate asians, blacks, jews, and mixed races."

Does the above statement in no way contradict what you stated before when you wrote "I have no big problem with your race"

How can you have no problem with someone and simultaneously hate them? Is that not contradictory?

Maybe to Nazis, hate is a normal thing and not a "big problem"

He is a damn nazi, he says different words but it all means same to him. "RACISM"

Fair enough Damo.

"National Socialism itself doesn't necessarily have to be racist, since it is mainly a political ideology, and 'nation' can be defined by factors other than race. Also, there are different kinds or 'levels' of racism."

True. But I have just never encountered tolerant nazi. You have made your point.


Kulong and Damo I dont know why you are trying to reason with him. You will have no success I am sure.

I don't know about DaMo but I was just making him realize that he contridicted himself.

Kulong there is no way that he did not realize it by himself. He knew what he previously said. I think he is just playing games you two.

Whatever the case, I find him amusing

Same here

Hasn't this gone a little off topic? It's supposed to answering the question 'What are Wapanese?'

{Why is someone like Schultzstaffel allowed to promote his 'propoganda' on this site?! It does slightly concern me....}

Hahaha... no offense to you JamesLovesAyumi but this has become the norm of AF.

1.) Someone starts an interesting and specific topic.

2.) Someone offends someone

3.) People fighting each other

4.) Discussion of the previous interesting and specific topic turns into "whose race is better" and goes off topic

5.) People calling each other names and throw out personal insults

6.) Someone like JamesLovesAyumi points out that the thread has gone off topic

7.) No one listens and people keep fighting until they get tired and/or bored

Kulong, you're right... There is a lot of digressing from the actual topic as people start having 'Differences of Opinion' aka "fights".... then it all gets personal... and so on and so forth...

That couldn't be further from the truth

White
A member of a racial group of people having light skin coloration, especially one of European origin.
nationalism
1) Devotion to the interests or culture of one's nation.
2) The belief that nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.
3) Aspirations for national independence in a country under foreign domination.

where the hell did segregation and supremacy come in?
and, "Keep the race pure"?!?
when the hell have you heard a Canadian campain to kick all the Chinese immigrants out?
you should take a walk around a university sometime, and start counting how many asians you see...
lots live here, just as many come from overseas
is that a "keeping the race pure"?
You Japanese keep your country a hell of a lot "purer" than we do

what you talk of is White Supremacy, or, the KKK
which is only a minor and, for the most part, unwanted part of North American culture
they are not the norm


Nationalism means supporting one's nation!
If you support a race, you are a racist, or a supremacist


So... you don't hate all whites... just the nationalists
Well, I'm white, and Canadian, and I love my country
So.... looks like I'm a white nationalist, by definition
Does that make you hate me?
Maybe.
Does this make me a Nazi, too?
I think not.

I have no problem with you shiro. You are a canadian nationalist. Not a white nationalist. White nationalism and nationalism to ones country are two different things. I believe the kkk consider themself white nationalists.

"Nationalism means supporting one's race!
If you support a race, you are a racist, or a supremacist"

I dont think thats correct. Nationalism means to support ones nation.

"Well, I'm white, and Canadian, and I love my country"

That is not a problem.

typo
I meant to put "means to support one's nation"

oops

As I have said. If that is the case I have no problem.

anyway
what my point was, is that even if the KKK call themselves "White Nationalists", nationalism doesn't imply racism

the term "white nationalism" does not exist. There's no country called "White", i'd cut my head off if you could find a country named W-H-I-T-E on a modern map. You love your country Canada, it's better to refer yourself as Canadian Nationalist, because "white" implies a race, not a nation. Calling them "white nationalists" is just as ridiculous as calling Chinese nationalists as "Yellow Nationalists".

exactly!

I think you misunderstand. 直隸總督 doesn't literally mean white nationalism doesn't exist. He mans that when people say 'white nationalism' they are total racists because they are using race as the basis of their 'love and devotion'. Also, as you have said, this white nationalism isn't about nations or countries. There is no country called white so obviously these WN's aren't saying they are nationalists of a country.

If they were Canadian Nationalists or American nationalists, then the whites would hate each other.

no, I think I understood him just fine
read his whole post, not just the part I quoted
we're saying the same things, as I read it
like I said above "white nationalism" doesn't exist
it's just a term that white supremacists use for themselves, b/c it sounds less offensive
("white nationalism" refers to a race, not a country)

QUOTE (直隸總督 @ Mar 13 2004, 07:48 PM)

Calling them "white nationalists" is just as ridiculous as calling Chinese nationalists as "Yellow Nationalists". 

also, nationalism doesn't imply hate of other nations, it only means love of your own nation
just b/c so many nationalists become filled with prejudices, doesn't mean they have to be
I'm a Canadian Nationalist, and that doesn't make me instintively hate Americans or Europeans

QUOTE (Black-a-nese @ Mar 10 2004, 12:37 PM)
Yes.. Yes i'm a wapanese (sobs) and i'm damn proud of it lol




lol my bad i'm Blackanese then

You don't have to hate other nations, not neccessarily. However, nationalists , by definition, put their national interest on the top of global welfare.
By the way shiro, you're more like a patriot rather than a nationalist.

yeah, Canada doesn't really do the "nationalism" thing well
we always put others first

EDIT:
Except Quebec
it'd be nice if they'd give up on the Seperatist angle
although, alot less people are for seperating than there were 4-8 years ago

Hi..

Hey shiro... do you live in quebec...??...If not so why do you care ??
But if you live in quebec..if you dont like ..just get the hell out...555 im kidding of course

Quebec will be a free land sooner or later,....So why not now...

Im proud to speak french and thai also of course...

Dont want to be a damm wapanese..555...why to be a wapanese..??
If you dont like yourself go buy a new damm personnality..
.there no proud..no honor..

Maybe for some freak...Damm

But anyway it all up to you...
..


See you ..

Goodnite........

no, I don't live in Quebec
but, if they do split, it will be bad for the whole country
I think it will be the worst for Quebec, but it won't be pretty for anyone else
(haha they want to split, but continue to use Canadian currency, and have the rest of Canada take their debts... they're crazy!)

if Quebec splits, many countries will stop investing in us (Canada), as we will be seen as an unstable market
if that happens, Canada will most likely become part of USA
so, yes, this is very important to me