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JuliusMariaLourdes
When Jose Rizal was in Europe, it was noted out that he found a European girlfriend somewhere in the border of Germany and Austria. Then it was rumored that Adolf Hitler was the son of Jose Rizal.

Jose Rizal (the father)
Adolf Hitler (the son)
juwanFromTaiwan
QUOTE (JuliusMariaLourdes @ Sep 21 2005, 11:30 AM)
When Jose Rizal was in Europe, it was noted out that he found a European girlfriend somewhere in the border of Germany and Austria.  Then it was rumored that Adolf Hitler was the son of Jose Rizal.

Jose Rizal (the father)
Adolf Hitler (the son)
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So Hitler was part Filipino. Despite killing over 6 million Jews who were mostly not of Semitic stock but probably Eastern-European, he sure didnt know very much between actual race and religion.
tehwprks
Hoax.
ronin
Are you like on crack, man?icon_rolleyes.gif Hitlerís family was deep inside Austria, in a ďMayburyĒ like sleepy town and they were a working class family not in academia or in a university which is where Jose Rizal, a multi-talented Renaissance man, would mostly meet Europeans of Academia. Jose Rizal never visited Austria. He lived and studied in Spain and learned how to speak Catalonian there along with many other langauges including Latin and Sanskrit. He also studied in Heidelberg, Germany (far from Austria) and France . One of his many foreign girlfriends other than his two Filipina girlfriends was Irish, Belgian, British, Japanese, and I think French. No Austrian girlfriend, otherwise both scholars in the P.I. and Spain would have known about it by now.
Jose Rizalís girlfriends(click here)
Alois Hitler and his son look almost like each other as does his mother who was a Catholic zealot. He came from a Catholic family and was an altar boy like Al Capone, Fidel Castro, and Joseph Stalin (whose mother wanted him to be a priest). Thatís probably where he learned to be anti-semetic. (The Catholic Church and the other Protestant branches use to be very anti-semetic in the past 2 milleniums). I brought that up in case someone says heís part Jewish. Iím a WW2 history buff since I was a kid (mostly WW2 aviation). So I know about this stuff.
JuliusMariaLourdes
QUOTE (ronin @ Sep 21 2005, 12:29 PM)
Are you like on crack, man?icon_rolleyes.gif
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LOL. Asking a question such as: "Was Hitler The Son Of Jose Rizal?" - will simply try to solicit ideas - and that wouldn't sound like I'm on crack... man... lol - but let me tell you this: you don't sound like you are on crack. (but I could be wrong). beerchug.gif
ronin
Well, I think there might be more Filipinos on this board whoíll be upset about this and think youíre on crack. Anyway, look at Hitlerís earlobes and Rizalís Earlobes, they donít match. Hitlerís earlobes flaps while Rizalís earlobes are attached. Then look at Alois Hitlerís earlobes. It also flaps like his son:


Alois Hitlerís profile
source1
Hitler's mother's earlobes also flaps and is not attached:

source2
Mr_Koolitz
Bwaahahaha! this cracks me Upp!!

Hitler da Son of Rizal, Yeah! that's why Hitler wanted the world for Rizal's memory!
Hitler should have nailed Spain first instead of Poland! tsk tsk tsk...
Bisdak
Really? Then maybe we'll have to change the name of Adolf Hitler to Adolf Rizal..hehehe! Very funny! :lol:
Cristiano_Ronaldo
QUOTE (Bisdak @ Sep 21 2005, 11:48 PM)
Really? Then maybe we'll have to change the name of Adolf Hitler to Adolf Rizal..hehehe! Very funny! :lol:
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OHH SNAAPPP! That's even more bad@$$-sounding than Adolf Hitler.

What's the theory behind this anyway?
eins098
Oh dude! i just recently finished my history subject and we're talking a lot about Jose Rizal's life but never a single page of the book talks about the sons of Rizal neither Adolf Hilter was his son. All was there is the girls of Rizal!
eins098
Oh dude! i just recently finished my history subject and we're talking a lot about Jose Rizal's life but never a single page of the book talks about the sons of Rizal neither Adolf Hilter was his son. All was there is the girls of Rizal!
Bisdak
QUOTE (Cristiano_Ronaldo @ Sep 22 2005, 01:51 PM)
QUOTE (Bisdak @ Sep 21 2005, 11:48 PM)
Really? Then maybe we'll have to change the name of Adolf Hitler to Adolf Rizal..hehehe! Very funny! :lol:
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OHH SNAAPPP! That's even more bad@$$-sounding than Adolf Hitler.

What's the theory behind this anyway?
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i don't know... embarassedlaugh.gif2
filipinoy
Hlter should have told the Axis not mess with his father's homeland


then hilter was also part chinese?????cuz rizal has chinese ancestry
Suijen
QUOTE (filipinoy @ Sep 21 2005, 10:29 PM)
Hlter should have told the Axis not mess with his father's homeland


then hilter was also part chinese?????cuz rizal has chinese ancestry
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Haha, that would explain why he liked the Chinese more than Japanese.
Kanlungan
If Rizal was Hitler's Dad, them Hitler must be part Pinoy, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese at Aeta... No wonder Hitler was small embarassedlaugh.gif

Don't take this seriously, aight? Hehe
ronin
QUOTE (Mr_Koolitz @ Sep 21 2005, 06:01 PM)
Bwaahahaha! this cracks me Upp!!

Hitler da Son of Rizal, Yeah! that's why Hitler wanted the world for Rizal's memory!
Hitler should have nailed Spain first instead of Poland! tsk tsk tsk...
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Fascist Spain under Fransisco Franco and Nazi Germany were allies during WW2. Hitler wouldnít have invaded Spain. Franco would have Fascist Spain join Nazi Germany and Italy as a vassal state under Nazi Germany if Hitler had won WW2. Germany and Italy wanted their ally, Spain, to join them in WW2 because of their strategic position. But they were officially neutral during WW2 because they were busy rebuilding their country after going through a Civil War which the Nazis and Fascist Italy help provided weapons, volunteer troops, armor, and airplanes to Francoís fascist Nationalists against the incumbent socialistic leftist Second Spanish Republic. Instead, Franco let German UBoats dock at their ports and sent in 4 infantry regiments and an airwing under the command of the Werrmacht Heer. It's to pay back Stalin for helping his enemies in their Civil War.source
toki
there are seriously soooo many theories about hitler's dad that its almost impossible to tell. i also heard that hitler's dad was jewish and he started hating jews because his father was an @ss and beat up his mother right in front of him. and his father was a horrible father. but that also could just be theories because hitler burned all his records.

well whatever it was. he sure didn't seem proud of his past or heritage.... so it can be SORTA assumed that he didnt want people to know he wasn't "pure aryan".. but then again. thats a theory as well
Mulawin
I think it is a propaganda started out many years ago to discredit Jose Rizal as the Philippine National hero, one more popular propganda agints rizal was that Rizal is US-sponsored national hero..

Here is an amsuing article written by Manuel Quezon III...


Adolf Rizal (And his half-brother, Mao Rizal)

By Manuel L. Quezon, III


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Here is the craziest thing I've heard (and I've heard it more than once, at parties): Adolf Hitler was really the illegitimate son of Jose Rizal. Here is the second most crazy thing I've heard: Mao Zedong was actually Rizal's illegitimate son. Two variations, I suppose, on the idea that "Yes, the Filipino Can!"

Sadly, I found the two theories so funny, that I never thought of asking the people who told them to me to explain on what grounds they based their claim about Der Fuehrer and the Great Helmsman. A dentistry student friend from U.E. has also heard these fanciful theories, but neither did it occur to him to ask on what evidence these fanciful claims were based. So I did a little research to find out how people could make such a story up.

The claim that Adolf Hitler was Rizal's progeny must be based on the following facts:

Adolf Hitler was born on April 20, 1889 (that means he could have been conceived sometime in August, 1888) , in the little village of Braunau, near the German-Austrian border.
He was born an Austrian and remained one until the 1930's.
The name of Hitler's mother was Klara Polzl.
At one time she was a maid, in Vienna.
Hitler always considered the town of Linz, in Austria, as his hometown (in his Political Testament he referred to "my home-town of Linz on the Danube.").
Hitler's oldest brother, Gustav, born on May 17, 1885, and his sister Ida, born in 1886, both died before he was born.
Bavaria was considered the "cradle" of Nazism.
The Nazis made Japan one of the Axis powers. At one point they were trying to prove that the Japanese were Aryans to make them members of the "master race."


Now combine the above information with the following culled from the life of Rizal:

On February 1, 1886, he left Paris for Germany. He went to Heidelberg, Wilhlmsfeld, Munich (in Bavaria), all somewhat near the German-Austrian border; on August 9, 1886 he left for Leipzig ("visiting various German cities along the way," one book says), arriving there on August 14. In October he went to Dresden and then to Berlin.
In Berlin he finished Noli Me Tangere. One of the book's characters is named Maria Clara.
On May 11, 1887, Rizal began his Grand Tour of Europe. He went to Dresden, Teschen (now Decin in the former Czechoslovakia), Prague, and then Brunn (where he lost a diamond stickpin), and Vienna (where he got back his stickpin, which was found by a maid in the hotel he stayed in in Brunn) in Austria .
On May 24, 1887, he left Vienna by riverboat to see sights on the Danube River (on the boat he saw paper napkins for the first time). His voyage ended at Linz.
From Linz he went to Munich (where Hitler attempted a putsch in 1923) and Nuremberg (site of the Nazi Party rallies and the War Crimes trials), and other German cities.
Rizal was in the German Empire, sometimes past the German-Austrian border, from February 1886 until he went to Switzerland in early June, 1887.
Rizal was again in Europe from May 24, 1888, until October 18, 1891. He was in London, Paris, Brussels, Madrid, Biarritz, Ghent. He was in Europe during the time Hitler was conceived and when he was born.
Rizal in 1888 had an affair with a Japanese woman, Seiko Usui, when he visited Japan. She had an only daughter, Yuriko, by a foreign husband some years after her encounter with Rizal. Yuriko later married the son of a Japanese politician.



Put all this information together and you may be able to conclude the following: [

Hitler was conceived either in 1887 when Rizal passed through Linz or other towns (such as Brunn - how do you think he lost the diamond stickpin? And who was the "maid" who found it later and gave it to Blumentritt who forwarded it to Vienna?) near the Austrian border: in which case Hitler's older siblings were fictitious, to cover up his mother's being pregnant with him. In other words Hitler was actually born before 1889.

Or he was conceived in August, 1888, when Rizal was supposedly in London. Or perhaps in September, 1888, when Rizal went to Paris for a week (to have a rendezvous with Klara?). Maybe when to Paris in 1889 it was so he could communicate more easily with the now-expecting Klara? Klara Polzl's affair with Rizal may have centered around Linz, which is why the Hitler family moved there later (so Mama Hitler could live where she had An Affair To Remember), which would explain Hitler's fondness for the town.

Finally, Seiko Usui's only daughter was not really fathered by her husband, Alfred Charlton. He was simply a front. Yuriko, you see, was Rizal's daughter! And Hitler knew she was his half-sister. She used her influence on her brother Adolf to convince him to enter into an alliance with Japan (making it one of the Axis powers): which is why Japan invaded the Philippines! Yuriko made it clear to Hirohito that Hitler would appreciate it if his ally were to take over his father's homeland. And of course the reason why Hitler wanted to become dictator of Germany was because his natural father had spent some of the most interesting years of his life there!

That, I think, is the rationale behind such a fantastic claim based on information that can be gathered from any High School textbook on Rizal and any good biography of Adolf Hitler. Naturally, this can only be done through selective use of the evidence, but it does make for an amusing piece of historical fiction.

Now, as to the idea that Mao Zedong was also Rizal's son. Unfortunately this claim cannot be supported by even the most spurious evidence. Mao Zedong was born in 1893, in Hunan Province, which you could say is kind of near Hong Kong. But at that time (1893), Rizal was in exile in Dapitan. Now it would have been possible for Rizal to scamper around Europe and get Klara pregnant without anybody noticing, but he couldn't possibly have jumped into a boat and rowed to Hong Kong without being caught. He did pass through Hong Kong in 1888 and 1891 but he never seems to have visited other parts of China (unless you count Xiamen and Macao). So there are no details that can be manipulated.

These exercises in foolishness prove how creative us Filipinos can be. What other people would be able to make the bogus claim that one of their heroes fathered the man who almost turned Europe into a "howling wilderness" (as one U.S. officer wanted to do with Samar)? That would have been poetic justice, I suppose, the brown man strikes back and all that sort of thing.
xXADoBOXx
Jose Rizal = PIMP
Hitler = some looser german kid...
nope its not his son..
Mr_Koolitz
QUOTE (ronin @ Sep 22 2005, 04:06 PM)
QUOTE (Mr_Koolitz @ Sep 21 2005, 06:01 PM)
Bwaahahaha! this cracks me Upp!!

Hitler da Son of Rizal, Yeah! that's why Hitler wanted the world for Rizal's memory!
Hitler should have nailed Spain first instead of Poland! tsk tsk tsk...
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Fascist Spain under Fransisco Franco and Nazi Germany were allies during WW2. Hitler wouldnít have invaded Spain. Franco would have Fascist Spain join Nazi Germany and Italy as a vassal state under Nazi Germany if Hitler had won WW2. Germany and Italy wanted their ally, Spain, to join them in WW2 because of their strategic position. But they were officially neutral during WW2 because they were busy rebuilding their country after going through a Civil War which the Nazis and Fascist Italy help provided weapons, volunteer troops, armor, and airplanes to Francoís fascist Nationalists against the incumbent socialistic leftist Second Spanish Republic. Instead, Franco let German UBoats dock at their ports and sent in 4 infantry regiments and an airwing under the command of the Werrmacht Heer. It's to pay back Stalin for helping his enemies in their Civil War.source
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Ummm newsflash! Germany is not looking for permanent Ally, ask Russia...
Ek-ek
That story is just hoax! Not true just rumors.........
corky
QUOTE (juwanFromTaiwan @ Sep 22 2005, 01:51 AM)
QUOTE (JuliusMariaLourdes @ Sep 21 2005, 11:30 AM)
When Jose Rizal was in Europe, it was noted out that he found a European girlfriend somewhere in the border of Germany and Austria.† Then it was rumored that Adolf Hitler was the son of Jose Rizal.

Jose Rizal (the father)
Adolf Hitler (the son)
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So Hitler was part Filipino. Despite killing over 6 million Jews who were mostly not of Semitic stock but probably Eastern-European, he sure didnt know very much between actual race and religion.
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short answer of course not! embarassedlaugh.gif2
skat3r
LOL Hitler's a Mexican.

adios juden
Nihonto
QUOTE (JuliusMariaLourdes @ Sep 21 2005, 11:30 AM)
When Jose Rizal was in Europe, it was noted out that he found a European girlfriend somewhere in the border of Germany and Austria.  Then it was rumored that Adolf Hitler was the son of Jose Rizal.

Jose Rizal (the father)
Adolf Hitler (the son)
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The hair is only SLIGHTLY similiar. :\

This is stupid, Hitler was Austrian.
sheila
i dont think so.=)
aaaaaaa
Hitler was a devout catholic
P. Bredahl
Alois Hitler...
iMumble
I don't believe this $hit. This is would be totally ludicrous, and people would know about it.

It would pretty dumb for him to be so "Aryan race" and stuff like that if he were part Filipino.
calliezhou
QUOTE(aaaaaaa @ Nov 23 2007, 02:05 AM) [snapback]3326042[/snapback]
Hitler was a devout catholic



was he? lol

might as well be martin luther's... embarassedlaugh.gif
redzeitgeist
hitler was actualy concieved when her mom was urinating and sat on a dirty toilet seat. no, no wait... i think he sprang to life out from old rabbi Levi Shmaginastein's kosher fart that left a yellow-greenish skidmark crap stain on the underpants. everything pretty much follows through with the killing of the damn jews.
Ek-ek
I cannot believe this topic becomes active again?
speedy_gonzalez
FOR THE LAST TIME NO
THIS IS A HOAX

it was discussed during my Rizal class and when this issue was brought up,
I nearly puked

like cummon,
do really want to acknowledge ADOLF HITLER

THE ADOLF HITLER as the son of JR??

NO NO NO

just because Rizal had random sex with prostitutes doesn't mean he's the father of hitler..

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aaaaaaa
http://www.spirituallysmart.com/nazi.html
scroll down
martin_nuke
Rizal had many sons and daughters around the world we can never tell if this urban legend is true
oanari
Rizal is brown, while Hitler is white. If Hitler is Rizal's son, so this means that Hitler's mother's gene is stronger than Rizal's. Nahh!!


Anyways, Adolf Hitler's father is Alois Schicklgruber. His father changed his name to Alois Hitler. So Hitler's real name would be "Adolf Schicklgruber".
P. Bredahl






that sick fu-k has his mutters eyes..
iMumble
QUOTE(martin_nuke @ Nov 24 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]3328403[/snapback]
Rizal had many sons and daughters around the world we can never tell if this urban legend is true


Err...I don't really think he had kids all around the world and things like that. But it was proven that he had lots of sex with young European women.
martin_nuke
Does that mean that Rizal has a fetish for European Women meaning that he desires European Women? Remember that Rizal's wife is a European Josephine Bracken.
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DUMBEST fu-kING THREAD!
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QUOTE(JuliusMariaLourdes @ Sep 21 2005, 08:30 AM) [snapback]1058460[/snapback]
When Jose Rizal was in Europe, it was noted out that he found a European girlfriend somewhere in the border of Germany and Austria. Then it was rumored that Adolf Hitler was the son of Jose Rizal.

Jose Rizal (the father)
Adolf Hitler (the son)



ITS CALLED FASHION STANDARDS OF THAT ERA...IDIOT!
iMumble
QUOTE(martin_nuke @ Nov 24 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]3328674[/snapback]
Does that mean that Rizal has a fetish for European Women meaning that he desires European Women? Remember that Rizal's wife is a European Josephine Bracken.


I don't know if he really had some fetish for European women, but it's evident that he has had relationships with them mostly.
speedy_gonzalez
QUOTE(iMumble @ Nov 24 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]3328884[/snapback]
I don't know if he really had some fetish for European women, but it's evident that he has had relationships with them mostly.

of course
he loved european prostitutes
he'd rent one every week
ewwwwwwwwwwwww

but claiming hitler as rizal's son makes me puke

its impossible

why do filipinos have a habit of claiming a person to be filipino
even if she/he isn't really one....

mrconfusion87
I still laugh at that story...
speedy_gonzalez
QUOTE(mrconfusion87 @ Nov 27 2007, 05:40 AM) [snapback]3333128[/snapback]
I still laugh at that story...


you should...

of all the most unbelievable stories that they hade to made up ...
why this story...

yuk..

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martin_nuke
At first when I heard that Hitler was the son of Rizal I laughed but now I think that there is a possibility because Rizal spent a long time in Germany and he even studied medicine there. I even recently heard that Hitler was fond of Germany's Bismark Government and Ideology that Rizal wanted the Philippines to become and the first Noli Me Tangere was even published and distributed in Germany and there is even a Rizalizta Club in Germany today were there are many German members. We know that the father of Hitler is not his real father so there is still a possibility.
martin_nuke
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