What do you think of these Asian and whites other non blacks who try and act black (more accurate discription try to act in a way more assioted with a certain section of the African American community)

Is it a harmless trend just copying a popular culture introduced by hip hop and the ilk or is it a form of madness (after all if an American Asian or white were to go around putting on phony Russian accents most people would say they are mad so whats so different about Chiggas or wiggas?).

Or is it something worse something that derides Black people like Al Jolson without the make up as one Black Friend of mine put it?

So whats your view on these strange characters?

you should be more specific. wearing baggy pants or those hip hop clothing lines is one thing, but saying "nigga" is another.

No I`m not so much talking about the clothing though that can be part of it..

But I mean the whole thing the way of talking the whole wassup my (insert word here) style of speech.

Even the invention of the word chigga just cuz it sounds like nig---

Its Asian and whiite guys and girls acting and speaking like hip hop black guys I mean.

It all depends on who it is. Some non-blacks have grown up around blacks, therefore are just products of their own environment, so I wouldn't say they're "acting" like anything. Other non-blacks who have grown up in mostly affluent white neighborhoods and then put on the act of being hard or "ghetto" I can only think of as "cute". Actually I feel that way about anyone who comes from the suburbs and pulls that act, even if they are black.

Then again, look at the early "wiggas" like GEORGE GERSHWYN and ELVIS PRESLEY etc. etc. etc. No one is laughing now, are they?

Ha but Elvis and Gersshwyn didn`t spend their whole days trying to talk walk and speak "black"

Still you have a point about Blacks from the suberbs doing similar after all the hip hop gangsta style is no more natural to them than it is to the wiggas and Chiggas

LL Cool J was like that wasn`t he and is puffy Combs that same way too?

Is Eminem for instance someone you would say its okay with and more enviroment than imitation ? I have heard he grow up in a detriot ghetto surrounded by hip hop and people talking "gansta"

I usually ignore them. And blacks who act like that too for that matter.

Actually both of them (Elvis and Gershwin and many many other White celebrities that today no one even thinks of the huge black influence on) did a lot to imitate black styles. A lot.

Puffy Combs' parents are actually from the islands....usually they have a different kind of thing going on so I don't know, NY likely changed him "urban" like other NY Caribbeans though (it seems that NY black people are mostly Caribbean and Caribbean descended for some reason. It surprised me! ).

I'm pretty sure "Eminem" used to live on my block, and I know for a fact that the neighborhood I live in now was his hangout neighborhood because my route to school was blocked off so he could make his stupid 8 mile movie.
So he is basically a neighborhood boy, although I don't think of him as an originator. Do you see? He's not a phony, but he's not an original.

What 8 mile represents to Detroiters is a racial divide. The people before 8 mile in Detroit are mostly all black, the people after 8 mile in the suburbs are white. So there you go.

I hope I don't look like one to you guys </3

Oh yeah I know Elvis and Gerswin copied Black styles hey you know some old music there Jerry Lee Lewis too Rock and roll itself is originally based on a Black music form isn`t it?

I just meant that unlike real wiggas and Chiggas they didn`t spend all their time trying to talk walk and act "black" when off stage they just copied the music style not speech ect.

I know someone from Detriot thats a pretty rough area isn`t it? or is it like most places were some areas are safe and others real scary?

You are ke ai.
Don't worry.

Well in one pic you have a baseball cap in the next you are wearing a hoody hm well----- LOL.

I personally don't really care ... if someone wants to act that way then let them be lol

i dress with a certain style, but i dont "act" black...i think people who are not into tha hiphop scene will automatically think people who dress that certain way are tryna be like 50 Cent... thats bs

I wouldn't regard that as acting black because around 90% (random figure) of black people in the UK don't even talk like that. If they do everyone thinks they're talking like an African American not just someone who is black. America has too much of this retarded 'gangsta' bull$hit.

Identity problems are stupid... oh well, not my problem... blame society and MTV

Yes thats a point in case I suppose a more acurate discription would be trying to act like black American hip hop gangstas.

UK Blacks are a good case in point like how so many of them use the "n" word now which they never did before.

So I guess its not just non Blacks that do this copycating but it is just that bit more noticable and foolish looking when non Blacks do it.

UK blacks don't use the 'n' word unless they're the retarded ones who act 'gangsta' of which there are very few.

Yeah I have seen a few of them use it but like you say probably retarded wanna be US gansta clones.

Two words Identity Crisis.

I listen to alot of RnB and I dress in urban clothing too but you don't hear me talking with a fake street accent like Im from St louis when im from canada. I guess its a fad nowadays to be someone your not. Most times people look at music videos and can't distingush between whats real and not. These fake thugs walking the streets with there st louis accents thinking there nelly and the st lunatics is really whats funny.

Whats even worse is they can tell you 1000 interesting facts about rap and RnB music and yet when it comes to talking about where they come from and the traditions they practice at home they have nothing to say thats when people who act like somebody else has got to stop. When they know more about other cultures then they do about there own.

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I couldn't care less what whites decide to do. However when asians go out of their way to behave and take in the black mentality. I see it as a negative. What their culture has become has degraded their community to the point of ridiculousness. Why would anyone want to willingly behave in that way when they don't have to?



It isnt harmless. Infact I'm sure thats what the older generation blacks said to themselves when this new culture arose. "I'ts nothing." "They'll grow out of it". The difference between emulating the russians and this black gangsta culture is simple. One promotes misbehavior. Glorifies violence,crime,prostitution you name it. Infact the word "gangsta" also means criminal correct? Where as just using a russian accent would be pretty much harmless. If you tried to immitate russian alcoholism then it would be different.



Does this emulation deride blacks? I don't think it does. Does behaving like a Tryad deride the chinese community? I doubt it. If anything behaving like a wigger derides the various asian communities that these kids are from.

Oh I only used the emulating Russians example to illistrate peoples strangness in seeming to accept this apeing of black culture .

In so much as if a Japanese or Chinese ect were to all of a sudden start talking to everyone with a phony Russian accent most of their peers would look at them and go "hey are you alright have you gone mad or something" and yet many in society seem to be strangly accepting of those that decide to copy this "Black" speech pattern.

I agree its also the worst form of imitation since it suggests a hero worship of murderers and rapists these gangster rappers promote only the worst behavior.

I wil confess to the fact it doesn`t suprise me so much when whites do it since they are well known as culture vultures but when Asians chose to emulate such low lifes it is somewhat more shocking and disturbing.

Yes you are right Gansta means Criminal in fact its a deriative of the word Gangster you see these people have even gone so far as to create their own sub culture of spelling or rather mispelling.

The only good news is that at least this worship of ganstas and their life style is not as wide spread amoungst Japanese as it is amoungst some other Asian groups (though interest in any hip hop may lead to contracting this condition).

At least it isn`t as widespread well at least no one has invented a word such as Jigga lol...You see these imitators have invented these words for themselves just because they wish to have a word to call themselves that rymes with the "n" word.

I guess I couldn`t really say if this behavior derides Blacks though some do seem upset when they see it as for wether imitating a triad would insult Chinese I couldn`t say but I am sure that if non Chinese were to suddenly start imitating a Chinese speech pattern many of them would feel somewhat offended?

1. The hip-hop culture isn't "black mentality" and it ISN'T black culture . It's a small part of it which is extremly overrepresented in the media. And pretty much every culture has some form of negative elements to it. Not just African-Americans. The majority of media attention that blacks get is either in sports or the entertainment industry. That doesn't mean that that's all there is to us.

2. Seeing how the asian crime rate hasn't been skyrocketing (although it's been rising) I doubt to many are listening to rap and then deciding to go out and rape and murder. Most of them are stupid wanna-bes who try to talk and act like "thugs" and for the most part that's pretty much the extent of it.

The originators of this culture were black. It may not be "black culture" but it is the largest and most powerful aspect of black culture. I agree every culture does have negative elements. However usually they arent the dominant elements jasel. I have only seen that in inside of the black community. I never claimed you were all entertainers or athletes jasel. Infact I couldn't care less. My only problem is that the negative elements of your culture are spreading to others. Like a disease of sorts. That is my only qualm with your community.



Even so jasel. With the glorification of crime in this negative subculture it may go further. I don't even want it to have a chance to get that way.

If it's "the largest and most powerful aspect of black culture" because they splatter it all over the media than it's fair to say that asexual asian males with fobby accents, pathetic social skills, low self-confidence and esteem, mom and pop shops, miniscule genitalia, and kung fu fighting are the largest and most powerful aspects of asian culture. I also wouldn't try blaming blacks because there are asians out there trying to act ghetto. I'd say that's more of a social issue in the asian community since I've noticed that ghetto behavior isn't the only element of a different culture alot of asians go out of there way to emulate and imitate.