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NorthernVigilance
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http://www2.dailynews.com/news/ci_3061843
English bypassed in L.A.

Peruvian immigrant Miguel Aliaga always knew that coming to Los Angeles would
mean a long struggle mastering a new language. He just never figured that language would be Korean.
In a city that lures some of the world's poorest, brightest and most ambitious immigrants, a strange phenomenon is occurring.

Clusters of immigrants are learning that America is not as much about assimilating into an English-speaking world but into a diverse immigrant culture, where Koreans can speak Spanish - and vice versa.

"At the beginning, English was very important - and it still is, if I need to go to a government office or court or get a license," Aliaga, 32, said as he sat behind a small display case in his soccer-supply shop in Koreatown.

"For me, (learning Korean) is as important because I lived in Koreatown. Now I am able to communicate with Koreans."

While no agency officially tracks the phenomenon, groups working in immigrant communities around Los Angeles can point to a handful of foreigners who assimilate by learning the dominant language - and sometimes it isn't English.

Latinos working in Chinese restaurants learn Mandarin. Koreans running manufacturing warehouses speak Spanish.

"It's a multicultural society and part of multiculturalism is multilingualism," said Ali Modarres, associate director of the Edmund G. "Pat" Brown Institute of Public Affairs at California State University, Los Angeles.

"It's beginning to show up in more neighborhoods as they become dominated by languages other than English."

But the phenomenon is more market-driven than cultural. The fortress of language is not crossed for love and friendship - but for commerce.

"To an outside person, it looks like something nice. There's an ethnic exchange going on. But the reality is that it's an exchange of necessity," said Vy Nguyen, a lead organizer for the Korean Immigrant Worker's Advocate, who works with dozens of bilingual and trilingual immigrants and speaks three languages herself - English, Spanish and Korean.

"You would think that an immigrant coming to the U.S. would have to learn (English). The reality is that Los Angeles is very ethnically diverse. In many businesses that immigrants are working in the primary language spoken there isn't English."

Aliaga, who for years stocked shelves at Korean-owned grocery stores, initially took Korean-language classes at night school to get ahead and earn a pay raise. Most of his customers spoke little or no English, and he wanted to be one of the few Spanish-speaking employees who could help customers find just the right fish or direct them to canned vegetables.

So, like thousands before him, he studied the language that would provide him with the most economic opportunity. And it happened to be Korean.

"At first it was about a job. When you understand Korean, there are more people that will hire you, especially in restaurants," he said.

Now it's about culture.

On his desk, he keeps a Korean-language instruction book and a Korean-English dictionary that he reads while waiting for customers.

"It has influenced me. Koreans are so disciplined, if they say they are going to do something. I do the same," he said.

In some ways, it's no wonder Aliaga is so enamored of Korean culture. It's the closest immigrant culture to him other than his own. The Korean woman who owns the store next door runs a tab for him, and - like him - works in her shop from morning till night. He knows all the store owners around his own by name. Most speak only Korean.

So on his downtime, Aliaga studies Korean history. Last year, he visited South Korea for a soccer convention. And he's now pulling together a plan to export the stacks of soccer jerseys.

Across the county - where a third of the residents are immigrants and nearly 100 languages are spoken - these cultural exchanges occur in small ways every day.

A Korean immigrant - by way of Argentina - Martin Paik writes a column, "Hola Amigo," in the Korea Times that provides conversational Spanish lessons in Korean. He doesn't speak English and finds little reason to, living in Los Angeles.

"In California, Spanish is more important than English," said Paik, a Seoul native. "I haven't found any inconvenience because I don't speak English. ... I don't need to speak English. If you can speak Spanish, you can drive, employers can have clients, you can order in restaurants, you can do anything."

Paik receives his credit card bills in Spanish and orders his office supplies in Korean. He teaches Spanish in Korean at a school he runs in a largely Latino neighborhood near Koreatown.

Most of the 200 students at Martin Spanish School speak little or no English. The only hint of English in the instruction books - which he wrote himself - are on the cover page.

"These students have to learn Spanish because here, it is indispensable. So many people speak Spanish here," he said. "These are people that work in check-cashing stores, Laundromats, cleaning businesses and at medical facilities."

Paik admits he often gets funny looks from Spanish speakers who at first glance are surprised by his fluency. But once the tongue starts wagging, Latinos - especially immigrants - quickly let down their guard. They are accustomed to seeing Asians in their homelands. Mexico City boasts a robust Chinatown and Argentina is home to thousands of South Korean immigrants.

"We are similar in many ways," Paik says with a grin. "We are dignified. We are proud."

Yoon Seong, a 60-year-old Korean - by way of Spain - said he feels fortunate to know Spanish. He lives in West Hills and said, unlike many of his Korean friends, feels no need to move to Koreatown.

"For me being here, the Hispanic community is the only world for me. I don't need English here. All that you need in California is Spanish."


This article is very telling about the relations between minorities. When there is interaction between non-black minorities there is mostly mutual cooperation for economic success. While in areas (like brooklyn, NY) where there's only blacks and latinos living together there is almost no progress in the neighborhood and the only businesses that stay are those that give the lowest quality products and are able to tolerate high amounts of crime.
kollision
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
toki
QUOTE (kollision @ Sep 28 2005, 05:27 PM)
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
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woah i noticed that too here in the states eek.gif whenever i go to a korean grocery store many times the workers are hispanic. but the cashiers are generaly korean because they need to converse fully with the customers. i remembered when i was in one the other day. i heard something muttering along the lines of: nuhmu yaebuhyo. i heard the word: yaebuh . which means pretty. sure.gif translation: youre pretty.

so i guess they do pick up on a lot . icon_smile.gif my korean guy friend's parents own two businesses. one is some fancy dress place. and another is an electronics store. and they are both situated in hispanic areas. so they know korean but know spanish better than english icon_smile.gif
FrenchVanillaNYC
^There are Hispanic workers in Chinese stores and some restaurants too.
ham_let
that's uber cool. i still think they should learn english though. you never know when you might need it.

i'm learning spanish right now. yah that' right. i'm learning spanish before i'm learning mandarin. icon_confused.gif
toki
QUOTE (FrenchVanillaNYC @ Sep 28 2005, 11:22 PM)
^There are Hispanic workers in Chinese stores and some restaurants too.
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yeah and my japanese friend owns a restaurant here too and they have all hispanic workers icon_confused.gif
ham_let
^ijust noticed your avatar had tokis in it. how cute ^__^ lol.

there aren't that many people from spanish speaking countries here... hmm.
toki
QUOTE (ham_let @ Sep 28 2005, 11:39 PM)
^ijust noticed your avatar had tokis in it. how cute ^__^ lol.

there aren't that many people from spanish speaking countries here... hmm.
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where you living at ? and yes! i love tokis biggthumpup.gif
kunomchu
its the hanryu i tell you. It is brainwashing everybody!
ham_let
QUOTE (toki @ Sep 29 2005, 01:53 AM)
QUOTE (ham_let @ Sep 28 2005, 11:39 PM)
^ijust noticed your avatar had tokis in it. how cute ^__^ lol.

there aren't that many people from spanish speaking countries here... hmm.
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where you living at ? and yes! i love tokis biggthumpup.gif
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looooooooook at my avatar and signature.... i thought it was obvious enough. LOL.
toki
dOH!!!! embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif oops eek.gif
ElmStStalker
who cares, most asian and mexicans dont get along in LA
ElmStStalker
Alot of Asian shops hire illegal mexicans....so what?
bond007
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This article is very telling about the relations between minorities. When there is interaction between non-black minorities there is mostly mutual cooperation for economic success. While in areas (like brooklyn, NY) where there's only blacks and latinos living together there is almost no progress in the neighborhood and the only businesses that stay are those that give the lowest quality products and are able to tolerate high amounts of crime.


I lived in NYC city for 20 years. The interaction that you mentioned between the Spanish and Blacks in Brooklyn there is a lie. You SHOULD not be spreading rumours, you make yourself sound stupid and also bigoted (which you probably are anyway). Especially for people who actually lived there. The high crime rate is the ONLY truth you have on your side.

There is a Korean-Spanish supermarket right in Manassas, Virginia. There is a large Spanish population in Manassas, however, a miniscule Korean population hence apart from economics, it makes no sense to have Korean supermarket there.
Jasel
L.A. and NYC scare the $hit out of me. I've watched too much NYPD Blue, Law & Order, and The Shield embarassedlaugh.gif

It's weird though in Chicago (except on the West Side) race relations seem pretty decent, except everyone still lives segregated of course but that's pretty much anywhere unfortunately...
toki
QUOTE (Jasel @ Sep 29 2005, 10:58 AM)
L.A. and NYC scare the $hit out of me. I've watched too much NYPD Blue, Law & Order, and The Shield embarassedlaugh.gif

It's weird though in Chicago (except on the West Side) race relations seem pretty decent, except everyone still lives segregated of course but that's pretty much anywhere unfortunately...
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you live in chicago too? beerchug.gif yeah chicago is known for being racially diverse but really segregated. icon_neutral.gif
juwanFromTaiwan
You are Half-Korean Hawaiian that is a Muslim. icon_confused.gif
QUOTE (kollision @ Sep 28 2005, 05:27 PM)
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
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juwanFromTaiwan
BTW. Which island of Hawaii has such a large hispanic population that works in Korean Shops? Assuming you are on Oahu where it can even be fathomed to have one those big Korean grocery stores like "Lucky World". Hawaii isnt like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York or Metropolitan Washington DC area when it comes to major Korean entrepreneurs. So when you said like "here" that seemed rather odd.
QUOTE (kollision @ Sep 28 2005, 05:27 PM)
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
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kollision
QUOTE (juwanFromTaiwan @ Oct 2 2005, 02:25 PM)
BTW.  Which island of Hawaii has such a large hispanic population that works in Korean Shops?  Assuming you are on Oahu where it can even be fathomed to have one those big Korean grocery stores like "Lucky World".  Hawaii isnt like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York or Metropolitan Washington DC area when it comes to major Korean entrepreneurs.  So when you said like "here" that seemed rather odd. 
QUOTE (kollision @ Sep 28 2005, 05:27 PM)
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
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I never said that I lived in Hawaii.
kollision
QUOTE (juwanFromTaiwan @ Sep 30 2005, 12:07 PM)
You are Half-Korean Hawaiian that is a Muslim. icon_confused.gif
QUOTE (kollision @ Sep 28 2005, 05:27 PM)
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
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Like I mentioned in the other thread (and I dont even think you read that) there is such a thing as converting.
dalawapo
how come everywhere i go on the forums its full of kollision arguing with soembody, usually on my alias. LMAO embarassedlaugh.gif

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supernovasp
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"To an outside person, it looks like something nice. There's an ethnic exchange going on. But the reality is that it's an exchange of necessity," said Vy Nguyen, a lead organizer for the Korean Immigrant Worker's Advocate, who works with dozens of bilingual and trilingual immigrants and speaks three languages herself - English, Spanish and Korean.


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ham_let
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 2 2005, 07:25 PM)
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"To an outside person, it looks like something nice. There's an ethnic exchange going on. But the reality is that it's an exchange of necessity," said Vy Nguyen, a lead organizer for the Korean Immigrant Worker's Advocate, who works with dozens of bilingual and trilingual immigrants and speaks three languages herself - English, Spanish and Korean.


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LOL. that's what i was thinking.
juwanFromTaiwan
embarassedlaugh.gif2 this Vy Nguyen can speak 3 other languages but his/her own language. Wow.. biggrin.gif Maybe adopted by Koreans?
mythoslegend
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ham_let
QUOTE (juwanFromTaiwan @ Oct 2 2005, 07:36 PM)
embarassedlaugh.gif2  this Vy Nguyen can speak 3 other languages but his/her own language.  Wow.. biggrin.gif  Maybe adopted by Koreans?
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that's... like...me... neartears.gif
neinei
QUOTE (ham_let @ Oct 2 2005, 05:35 PM)
QUOTE (supernovasp @ Oct 2 2005, 07:25 PM)
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"To an outside person, it looks like something nice. There's an ethnic exchange going on. But the reality is that it's an exchange of necessity," said Vy Nguyen, a lead organizer for the Korean Immigrant Worker's Advocate, who works with dozens of bilingual and trilingual immigrants and speaks three languages herself - English, Spanish and Korean.


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LOL. that's what i was thinking.
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i was thinking that too, maybe she is is korean but married to a vietnamese guy and changed her first name and last name icon_wink.gif
BahDukeplayer
QUOTE (kollision @ Sep 28 2005, 12:27 PM)
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
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Dude, I know a lot of Koreans in LA...including some relatives...who are learning Spanish in droves. Mexicans or the hispanics are a growing minority in So California. A lot of Korean stores I've been to in LA do have mexicans shelving canned foods, placing the vegetables on the counter...etc.

But in terms of relationship....I don't know about that. I think a lot of the Korean owners are hiring the mexicans due to cheap labor.

But hey....better than those blacks who want to play the race-card and blame other ethnic groups for "moving into their neighborhood."
BahDukeplayer
QUOTE (toki @ Sep 29 2005, 06:07 AM)
QUOTE (Jasel @ Sep 29 2005, 10:58 AM)
L.A. and NYC scare the $hit out of me. I've watched too much NYPD Blue, Law & Order, and The Shield embarassedlaugh.gif

It's weird though in Chicago (except on the West Side) race relations seem pretty decent, except everyone still lives segregated of course but that's pretty much anywhere unfortunately...
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you live in chicago too? beerchug.gif yeah chicago is known for being racially diverse but really segregated. icon_neutral.gif
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Chicago racially segregated? Hmmm...despite that I find the folks of Chicago to be waaay nicer and friendlier than the monsters in Lost Angeles.

I would think LA is MORE segregated than any other US cities in the nation. You have Asians living in Orange County, Alhambra, Monterey Park, Diamond Bar...and other suburban towns. Whites live in the San Fernando valley. Hispanics...heck...everywhere you walk. Blacks in compton, culver city, inglewood...

Thank God I no longer live in LA. I hated living in that smog-infested hell hole.
BahDukeplayer
QUOTE (juwanFromTaiwan @ Oct 2 2005, 09:25 AM)
BTW.  Which island of Hawaii has such a large hispanic population that works in Korean Shops?  Assuming you are on Oahu where it can even be fathomed to have one those big Korean grocery stores like "Lucky World".  Hawaii isnt like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York or Metropolitan Washington DC area when it comes to major Korean entrepreneurs.  So when you said like "here" that seemed rather odd. 
QUOTE (kollision @ Sep 28 2005, 05:27 PM)
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
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Hey hey hey...quit bashing Oahu. I don't don't who this nuthead kolision is....but don't let that fool misrepresent Hawaii.

I have been living on Oahu for the past six years and I like it here.

True...there aren't BIG Korean supermarkets here...but there are two Korean supermarket chains here. At least waaay better than the Korean supermarkets in Portland, Oregon and Kansas City.

Hardly any hispanics in Hawaii....

But the "Asian" hispanics are plentiful in Hawaii.....the Filipinos!!
kollision
QUOTE (BahDukeplayer @ Oct 3 2005, 01:21 AM)
QUOTE (kollision @ Sep 28 2005, 12:27 PM)
I noticed that a lot of Korean shops here do have a lot of Hispanic workers, but it never dawned upon me that the two actually communicated with each others languages, especially Hispanics speaking Korean.
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Dude, I know a lot of Koreans in LA...including some relatives...who are learning Spanish in droves. Mexicans or the hispanics are a growing minority in So California. A lot of Korean stores I've been to in LA do have mexicans shelving canned foods, placing the vegetables on the counter...etc.

But in terms of relationship....I don't know about that. I think a lot of the Korean owners are hiring the mexicans due to cheap labor.

But hey....better than those blacks who want to play the race-card and blame other ethnic groups for "moving into their neighborhood."
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A growing minority? That's an understatement, isn't it? Don't they basically make up most of So Cali?

As for the Hispanics, they have gone up from shelving to actually being at the check out.

As for the blacks, don't they dislike koreans because apparently they dont hire them?
juwanFromTaiwan
QUOTE (BahDukeplayer @ Oct 3 2005, 01:25 AM)
QUOTE (toki @ Sep 29 2005, 06:07 AM)
QUOTE (Jasel @ Sep 29 2005, 10:58 AM)
L.A. and NYC scare the $hit out of me. I've watched too much NYPD Blue, Law & Order, and The Shield embarassedlaugh.gif

It's weird though in Chicago (except on the West Side) race relations seem pretty decent, except everyone still lives segregated of course but that's pretty much anywhere unfortunately...
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you live in chicago too? beerchug.gif yeah chicago is known for being racially diverse but really segregated. icon_neutral.gif
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Chicago racially segregated? Hmmm...despite that I find the folks of Chicago to be waaay nicer and friendlier than the monsters in Lost Angeles.

I would think LA is MORE segregated than any other US cities in the nation. You have Asians living in Orange County, Alhambra, Monterey Park, Diamond Bar...and other suburban towns. Whites live in the San Fernando valley. Hispanics...heck...everywhere you walk. Blacks in compton, culver city, inglewood...

Thank God I no longer live in LA. I hated living in that smog-infested hell hole.
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Did you used to post at GoldSea.Com like 2-3 yrs ago? embarassedlaugh.gif2 I remember people pickin on you man for being such a whiner. The girl and this dude. I can link it if you want to confirm.
FrenchVanillaNYC
QUOTE (BahDukeplayer @ Oct 3 2005, 01:25 AM)
I would think LA is MORE segregated than any other US cities in the nation.
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No, that honor belongs to Detroit.
Eclectic Asian
QUOTE (ham_let @ Sep 28 2005, 08:31 PM)
that's uber cool. i still think they should learn english though. you never know when you might need it.

i'm learning spanish right now. yah that' right. i'm learning spanish before i'm learning mandarin.  icon_confused.gif
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haha i live and california and i'm learning mandarin after quitting a 3 year high school study on spanish....

you never know....you never know icon_wink.gif

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seximami
QUOTE (NorthernVigilance @ Sep 28 2005, 04:35 PM)
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http://www2.dailynews.com/news/ci_3061843
English bypassed in L.A.

Peruvian immigrant Miguel Aliaga always knew that coming to Los Angeles would
mean a long struggle mastering a new language. He just never figured that language would be Korean.
In a city that lures some of the world's poorest, brightest and most ambitious immigrants, a strange phenomenon is occurring.

Clusters of immigrants are learning that America is not as much about assimilating into an English-speaking world but into a diverse immigrant culture, where Koreans can speak Spanish - and vice versa.

"At the beginning, English was very important - and it still is, if I need to go to a government office or court or get a license," Aliaga, 32, said as he sat behind a small display case in his soccer-supply shop in Koreatown.

"For me, (learning Korean) is as important because I lived in Koreatown. Now I am able to communicate with Koreans."

While no agency officially tracks the phenomenon, groups working in immigrant communities around Los Angeles can point to a handful of foreigners who assimilate by learning the dominant language - and sometimes it isn't English.

Latinos working in Chinese restaurants learn Mandarin. Koreans running manufacturing warehouses speak Spanish.

"It's a multicultural society and part of multiculturalism is multilingualism," said Ali Modarres, associate director of the Edmund G. "Pat" Brown Institute of Public Affairs at California State University, Los Angeles.

"It's beginning to show up in more neighborhoods as they become dominated by languages other than English."

But the phenomenon is more market-driven than cultural. The fortress of language is not crossed for love and friendship - but for commerce.

"To an outside person, it looks like something nice. There's an ethnic exchange going on. But the reality is that it's an exchange of necessity," said Vy Nguyen, a lead organizer for the Korean Immigrant Worker's Advocate, who works with dozens of bilingual and trilingual immigrants and speaks three languages herself - English, Spanish and Korean.

"You would think that an immigrant coming to the U.S. would have to learn (English). The reality is that Los Angeles is very ethnically diverse. In many businesses that immigrants are working in the primary language spoken there isn't English."

Aliaga, who for years stocked shelves at Korean-owned grocery stores, initially took Korean-language classes at night school to get ahead and earn a pay raise. Most of his customers spoke little or no English, and he wanted to be one of the few Spanish-speaking employees who could help customers find just the right fish or direct them to canned vegetables.

So, like thousands before him, he studied the language that would provide him with the most economic opportunity. And it happened to be Korean.

"At first it was about a job. When you understand Korean, there are more people that will hire you, especially in restaurants," he said.

Now it's about culture.

On his desk, he keeps a Korean-language instruction book and a Korean-English dictionary that he reads while waiting for customers.

"It has influenced me. Koreans are so disciplined, if they say they are going to do something. I do the same," he said.

In some ways, it's no wonder Aliaga is so enamored of Korean culture. It's the closest immigrant culture to him other than his own. The Korean woman who owns the store next door runs a tab for him, and - like him - works in her shop from morning till night. He knows all the store owners around his own by name. Most speak only Korean.

So on his downtime, Aliaga studies Korean history. Last year, he visited South Korea for a soccer convention. And he's now pulling together a plan to export the stacks of soccer jerseys.

Across the county - where a third of the residents are immigrants and nearly 100 languages are spoken - these cultural exchanges occur in small ways every day.

A Korean immigrant - by way of Argentina - Martin Paik writes a column, "Hola Amigo," in the Korea Times that provides conversational Spanish lessons in Korean. He doesn't speak English and finds little reason to, living in Los Angeles.

"In California, Spanish is more important than English," said Paik, a Seoul native. "I haven't found any inconvenience because I don't speak English. ... I don't need to speak English. If you can speak Spanish, you can drive, employers can have clients, you can order in restaurants, you can do anything."

Paik receives his credit card bills in Spanish and orders his office supplies in Korean. He teaches Spanish in Korean at a school he runs in a largely Latino neighborhood near Koreatown.

Most of the 200 students at Martin Spanish School speak little or no English. The only hint of English in the instruction books - which he wrote himself - are on the cover page.

"These students have to learn Spanish because here, it is indispensable. So many people speak Spanish here," he said. "These are people that work in check-cashing stores, Laundromats, cleaning businesses and at medical facilities."

Paik admits he often gets funny looks from Spanish speakers who at first glance are surprised by his fluency. But once the tongue starts wagging, Latinos - especially immigrants - quickly let down their guard. They are accustomed to seeing Asians in their homelands. Mexico City boasts a robust Chinatown and Argentina is home to thousands of South Korean immigrants.

"We are similar in many ways," Paik says with a grin. "We are dignified. We are proud."

Yoon Seong, a 60-year-old Korean - by way of Spain - said he feels fortunate to know Spanish. He lives in West Hills and said, unlike many of his Korean friends, feels no need to move to Koreatown.

"For me being here, the Hispanic community is the only world for me. I don't need English here. All that you need in California is Spanish."


This article is very telling about the relations between minorities. When there is interaction between non-black minorities there is mostly mutual cooperation for economic success. While in areas (like brooklyn, NY) where there's only blacks and latinos living together there is almost no progress in the neighborhood and the only businesses that stay are those that give the lowest quality products and are able to tolerate high amounts of crime.
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thats SO cute
VNlilMAN
QUOTE (BahDukeplayer @ Oct 2 2005, 10:25 PM)
Chicago racially segregated?  Hmmm...despite that I find the folks of Chicago to be waaay nicer and friendlier than the monsters in Lost Angeles.

I would think LA is MORE segregated than any other US cities in the nation.  You have Asians living in Orange County, Alhambra, Monterey Park, Diamond Bar...and other suburban towns.  Whites live in the San Fernando valley.  Hispanics...heck...everywhere you walk.  Blacks in compton, culver city, inglewood...

Thank God I no longer live in LA.  I hated living in that smog-infested hell hole.
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Where did you live? I live in san fernando valley and in parts there are a lot of asian(northridge/granada), hispanics(van nuys), whites(encino/sherman oaks).
Asians are only in the suburbs, there are some in el monte and even van nuys.
I dont know if you've gone elsewhere but i think la is pretty diverse. koreatown is a good example. you have an even mix of koreans/hispanics.

My mom probably knows just as much spanish as she does english.
Jasel
I think most major cities are somewhat segregatted
Stratocaster
My mom used to work at a mall in Santa Ana and everybody was either Korean or Hispanic. Seriously, I've seen only one white person there in my life.
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