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samheisfl
Greetings...

hi... i'm new here,

Though Malaysia has a very good economy, but we lack behind in sports. Why aa?
Espcially in soccer. I believe most of the Malaysian can gives name for the England stiker, Brazil Midfielder watsoever. But i think if somebody ask them who is the Malaysia top stiker, i don't think they can answer that.

During Mokhtar Dahari era, we can beat Japan and South Korea easily. But now...
People say that the present player is just aiming for the money. I strongly believe that but i think the Euro players wage is 20 - 30 times larger than the Malaysian, but still they can perform well for their country...

How sad... huhuhu

bawling.gif confused.gif help.gif icon_confused.gif madgo.gif
zizou
this is an area where many newspapers and talkshows have been discussing about, and until now, there is no known answer as to why we're not performing

there are a lot of reasons why, but i dunno, its too broad to mention it here ^^;;
Iron Malayan
Malaysia keep hiring stupid national coaches and these coaches keep selecting mediocre players while overlooking the excellent ones.
IniTiaL V.
i dont quite understand the point of this post, care to explain?
brucewayne
QUOTE (IniTiaL V. @ Oct 5 2005, 08:56 PM)
i dont quite understand the point of this post, care to explain?
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prob. its jes a thought on how to improve football level in M`sia.
correct me if im wrong
caramel
I think he posted this to figure out the reason of the sudden deteriorating standard of M'sian soccer.

As noted above, the M'sian team was pretty strong (a long time ago). However, I think that the loss to the Laos team (which was not the favourites to win) during one of the championships really hit most of the M'sian soccer fans hard.
Iron Malayan
QUOTE (brucewayne @ Oct 5 2005, 09:07 PM)
QUOTE (IniTiaL V. @ Oct 5 2005, 08:56 PM)
i dont quite understand the point of this post, care to explain?
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prob. its jes a thought on how to improve football level in M`sia.
correct me if im wrong
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Ya
samheisfl
There was a debate in parliament recently about our football slump performance.
The debate is comparing football and sepak takraw. Sepak Takraw..?
Hmm.. Interesting...

The debate is between FAM vice pres. and Johor Sepak Takraw assoc. president.

Well.. both sports are getting worse and worse... Sepak Takraw is said originated
from Malaysia and Thailand. But we lose to Myanmar a few back years ago. Myanmar..?

I only see the field hockey as our sole saviour in the team sport. And most of the
hockey palyer is eduacted.. May be they should implement that to our football team.

Those who want to play for Malaysia must have at least a diploma.. Howzatt?
yana19384
malaysian soccer???

i think it never will get any better hahaha embarassedlaugh.gif

i just dunno why they cant get any better...

the fans love them though...

they have to do somthing more to show their appreciation to their true fans

good luck biggthumpup.gif
malaccan
Dunno lah, not many Malaysians are into sports nowadays, despite us having the Akademi Sukan negara or whatever. We need a catalyst like what the Thomas Cup win did for badminton in 1991. More and more Msians are going for jobs in air-conditioed offices, no one really does sport as much as we used to.
rx7boy
^yup agree.. because many parents nowadays think profession as a professional soccer player wouldn't last long. retired in early age and didn't make big money... icon_sad.gif
caramel
Yea. But I think it's how our society perceive people who are in sports as well. A lot of them think that those who are into sports do not have a bright future.
samheisfl
This year, Selangor won treble title... --->Premier league, FA cup and Malaysia Cup. Newspapers said the selangor's fan are coming back to the stadium. But from what i saw, more than half of the supporters are indonesian. and more than halves of the total goal scored is done by indonesian player.
yana19384
QUOTE (rx7boy @ Oct 7 2005, 09:28 AM)
^yup agree.. because many parents nowadays think profession as a professional soccer player wouldn't last long. retired in early age and didn't make big money...  icon_sad.gif
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true...dats because malaysian sports thingie havent developed well these years and they are lacking behind in many ways and they are really deep under indeed...so to make sports as better quality of professional life/occupation etc..they (the sportsmen and their scientist) must show the good opportunities to the people now
caramel
Hahaha. I didn't realise that rx7boy and I posted almost the same thing at the same time. icon_redface.gif
yana19384
embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif embarassedlaugh.gif
rx7boy
QUOTE (caramel @ Oct 8 2005, 03:25 AM)
Hahaha. I didn't realise that rx7boy and I posted almost the same thing at the same time.  icon_redface.gif
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I can read your mind..... icon_twisted.gif
caramel
NOOOO. Go away go away. Shooh.
::frightened::
brucewayne
even my teacher who is japanese said, early 80`s , M`sia easily beat Japan,
those Mokhtar Dahari time.... biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif biggthumpup.gif but now bawling.gif
rx7boy
QUOTE (caramel @ Oct 8 2005, 03:59 PM)
NOOOO. Go away go away. Shooh.
::frightened::
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embarassedlaugh.gif2 embarassedlaugh.gif2 spooky.. shrug.gif
caramel
Yea. You are the one spooky. Hehe. embarassedlaugh.gif
Iron Malayan
QUOTE (caramel @ Oct 8 2005, 03:25 AM)
Hahaha. I didn't realise that rx7boy and I posted almost the same thing at the same time.  icon_redface.gif
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lolz
samheisfl
Africa Zone

Cote d'Ivoire
Togo
Angola
Ghana
Tunisia

Asia Zone

Japan
Iran
Korea Republic
Saudi Arabia

European Zone

Germany - Host
Ukraine
Netherlands
Poland
England
Croatia
Italy
Portugal
Sweden
Serbia and Montenegro
France

North, Central American and Caribbean Zone

USA
Mexico
Costa Rica

South American Zone

Argentina
Brazil
Ecuador
Paraguay

These are the teams that already qualified for the next world cup. 4 out of 5 african country are the first-timer in the world cup. See.. Angola,Ghana,Togo Ivory coast qualified for the world cup and i believe their sport's infrastucture is far more less than us... icon_confused.gif

I think if i live in UK, i can join those hooligans.. embarassedlaugh.gif
caramel
No more China is the Asia zone? Hehe.

Anyway I am looking forward to an exciting World Cup. icon_wink.gif
malaccan
QUOTE (samheisfl @ Oct 12 2005, 04:43 PM)
I think if i live in UK, i can join those hooligans.. embarassedlaugh.gif
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No you wouldn't. Really. I mean, really.
rx7boy
QUOTE (caramel @ Oct 12 2005, 04:53 PM)
No more China is the Asia zone? Hehe.

Anyway I am looking forward to an exciting World Cup. icon_wink.gif
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Me too... One of the stadium is quite near.. I hope my german friend can get a ticket for me.. "guna orang dalam" embarassedlaugh.gif
yana19384
one day i'll give birth to a well known malaysian swimmer biggthumpup.gif
rx7boy
^wah, don't do fortune telling maa.. tak elok... embarassedlaugh.gif
yana19384
erh???this is not fortune telling...this is my dream sure.gif
caramel
Next year is definitely a great sporting year. Melbourne Commonwealth Games 2006, FIFA World Cup 2006, Doha Asian Games 2006.. what else?! Hmm..

@yana: Hope to see your sons or daughters or both a pro swimmer. biggthumpup.gif
yana19384
hehe..yeah...thank you...i want them to be pro martial artist too biggthumpup.gif
Iron Malayan
Wow.

Greece the European Champion failed to qualify.

QUOTE (samheisfl @ Oct 12 2005, 04:43 PM)
Africa Zone

  Cote d'Ivoire
  Togo
  Angola 
  Ghana
  Tunisia
 
Asia Zone
 
  Japan
  Iran
  Korea Republic
  Saudi Arabia

European Zone

  Germany - Host
  Ukraine
  Netherlands
  Poland
  England
  Croatia
  Italy
  Portugal
  Sweden
  Serbia and Montenegro
  France

North, Central American and Caribbean Zone

  USA
  Mexico
  Costa Rica

South American Zone

  Argentina
  Brazil
  Ecuador
  Paraguay

These are the teams that already qualified for the next world cup. 4 out of 5 african country are the first-timer in the world cup. See.. Angola,Ghana,Togo Ivory coast qualified for the world cup and i believe their sport's infrastucture is far more less than us...  icon_confused.gif

I think if i live in UK, i can join those hooligans.. embarassedlaugh.gif
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Aranadhel
In my opinion, we only have the players to blame for making our standard of football below par amongst the other Asian powerhouses. Lack of national pride & love for the game is a recipe for disaster for any country. If that doesnt change then sad to say Malaysia will never ever qualify for the World Cup Finals.
malaccan
QUOTE (yana19384 @ Oct 14 2005, 12:51 AM)
one day i'll give birth to a well known malaysian swimmer biggthumpup.gif
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Are you planning to marry Jeffrey Ong? eek.gif icon_wink.gif
rx7boy
^keh keh keh.. He's Old already laa...
yana19384
hahahaha...doesnt mean i have to marry a sportsman to get a child to grow up as a sportsman...lol...thats a good one...kinda bring back my mood...but no way...i dont mind someone who is old anyway rx7....but maybe not THAT old...LOL.. beerchug.gif

QUOTE (malaccan @ Oct 17 2005, 01:55 AM)
QUOTE (yana19384 @ Oct 14 2005, 12:51 AM)
one day i'll give birth to a well known malaysian swimmer biggthumpup.gif
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Are you planning to marry Jeffrey Ong? eek.gif icon_wink.gif
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Iron Malayan
Some Football Associations cannot even pay their player salaries. No wonder our football sucks.
yana19384
^^yeah...thats for sure...but i dont think there will be changes on this one at all..
Iron Malayan
We need a big money professional league

but to we must become a rich country first.

Otherwise the teams cannot afford to pay big salaries.
samheisfl
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Oct 20 2005, 02:59 AM)
We need a big money professional league

but to we must become a rich country first.

Otherwise the teams cannot afford to pay big salaries.
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I don't we need a lot of money for that.. Country like Ghana, Togo and Angola definitely has lower GDP than us. But still they qualify for the world cup.
yana19384
^^True true
JinFX
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Oct 6 2005, 02:29 AM)
Malaysia keep hiring stupid national coaches and these coaches keep selecting mediocre players while overlooking the excellent ones.
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It't not the coaches problem, it's the players attitude thats the problem thumbsdown.gif , if the players keep on having the attitude of being 'tidak apa' style, i don't think for the next 20yrs Malaysia is gonna gain entry point to FIFA, not to say World Cup lol biggrin.gif
yana19384
i will buy you guys tickets for world cup final if malaysia is playing the finals embarassedlaugh.gif
Iron Malayan
QUOTE (JinFX @ Oct 20 2005, 09:45 PM)
QUOTE (Iron Malayan @ Oct 6 2005, 02:29 AM)
Malaysia keep hiring stupid national coaches and these coaches keep selecting mediocre players while overlooking the excellent ones.
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It't not the coaches problem, it's the players attitude thats the problem thumbsdown.gif , if the players keep on having the attitude of being 'tidak apa' style, i don't think for the next 20yrs Malaysia is gonna gain entry point to FIFA, not to say World Cup lol biggrin.gif
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Its the manager's/coach's responsibility to make sure lousy players are not selected.
yana19384
i hope i wont be having osteoporosis when malaysia finally find a way to be better in soccer like we used to embarassedlaugh.gif
malaccan
Saturday November 5, 2005
FAM consider Malaysia Cup invite for Singapore


IPOH: The FA of Malaysia are proposing to invite Singapore for next year’s Malaysia Cup competition.

FAM vice president Datuk Raja Ahmad Zainuddin Raja Omar said the proposal would be discussed at the FAM Council meeting to seek the views of all the states.

Singapore won the Malaysia Cup 24 times, the last in 1994 before pulling out of the M-League.

On another matter, Raja Ahmad Zainuddin said Indonesia have proposed an annual competition with Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam starting in January.

“The proposal will be presented to the football associations of the four countries,” he said. – Bernama


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Do you guys think this is a good idea? If I recall correctly, only Selangor won the Malaysia Cup more often than Singapore. Nothing rallies the crowd better than a match against Singapore, likewise whenever I went to Kallang Stadium in Singapore, the crowd really went all out when it was against a Malaysian side, ie almost always! embarassedlaugh.gif2
And soon, a proper ASEAN Cup? icon_wink.gif
caramel
I agree it's a good idea. M'sians have been fighting M'sians for too long and they are losing their fighting spirit. Probably they should invite the other countries' players so that their competitiveness would increase. M'sian footballers have been slacking for far too long.

OT: I remember when I was young I use to support the S'gor team. love2.gif Back then, most people loved M'sian soccer. There was once, when my cousins and I were in the car.. and one of the S'gor match just ended. We saw a lot of motorcyclist carrying the S'gor flag.. we opened the window and screamed.. "Siapa Menang?!" Then this Malay guy from the backseat of the motorcycle carried the Selangor Flag and said.. KITA MENANG! I was so proud. But those were the days.
rx7boy
QUOTE (malaccan @ Nov 5 2005, 07:51 PM)
Saturday November 5, 2005
FAM consider Malaysia Cup invite for Singapore


IPOH: The FA of Malaysia are proposing to invite Singapore for next year’s Malaysia Cup competition.

FAM vice president Datuk Raja Ahmad Zainuddin Raja Omar said the proposal would be discussed at the FAM Council meeting to seek the views of all the states.

Singapore won the Malaysia Cup 24 times, the last in 1994 before pulling out of the M-League.

On another matter, Raja Ahmad Zainuddin said Indonesia have proposed an annual competition with Malaysia, Thailand and Vietnam starting in January.

“The proposal will be presented to the football associations of the four countries,” he said. – Bernama 


END
Do you guys think this is a good idea? If I recall correctly, only Selangor won the Malaysia Cup more often than Singapore. Nothing rallies the crowd better than a match against Singapore, likewise whenever I went to Kallang Stadium in Singapore, the crowd really went all out when it was against a Malaysian side, ie almost always!  embarassedlaugh.gif2
And soon, a proper ASEAN Cup? icon_wink.gif
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I agreee with that.. and not only SEA... our team should have more friendship match with Korea,Japan,African team and the mighty South American Team.
malaccan
^Oh, so caramel sokong Selangor ya! sure.gif LOL. Me, I'm a KL supporter. My time was when Fandi Ahmad played for us, and he's Singaporean! But actually, I also tumpang proud when Selangor wins, neighbour mah! embarassedlaugh.gif2
caramel
LOL. Well, S'gor is my Kampung.. where I am brought up.. and where I love grewing up in.
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